More destruction of Ukraine territory and economy going on

[adaseb]

It’s been over 10 days or so and it’s still getting bad. We all assumed they would have some peace talks and find so resolution. However Facebook is down, credit cards, auto companies, fedex, etc. The entire country is going to become North Korea pretty much.

Pretty sure no citizen wants that, seems only Putin wants this war. Wonder when this will finally end. Here in North America , gas is getting out of control. Basically rising by a few cents every day and looking at price of crude no relief in sight.

[TheGreatPython]

I'm following the war very closely, op, and I can tell you why: Ukraine is lacking strong aircraft right now. We have some stuff, of course, and sometimes we do destroy the enemy from the sky with, for example, Bayraktars. But Ukraine needs more of it. Another reason is strategic: if there's a significant distance between military vehicles, it's very inefficient to fire on it. It's better to wait for them to be very close to one another, so that one hit can affect many vehicles and tanks at once.
As for Ukrainian economy, I hope it'll remain more or less afloat thanks to the Western support, but of course the hit of the war on economy is very high when so many people and businesses cannot operate.

Russia is still a huge country and they're completely equipped so Ukraine would really have a hard time defending. The main city if Ukraine is almost destroyed and it will take a long time rebuilding it when the war is over. I hope that their economy wouldn't get destroyed totally as well. This war has been causing too much suffering for innocent people.

Russia is the one that came to attack Ukraine so they are more prepared and have carried a lot of weapons. Ukraine on the other hand would want to conserve their weapons as it's only limited and they must be doing what kryptqnick have said. They need to hit more target at once. I heard there are reinforce that can come from other countries? was that cancelled or what? that should sustain them from war.

Ukraine's economy is already destroyed but they can easily recovered as they have more support. I wonder where did the u.s get the satellite image? did they only get it on online? because i don't think Russia is sending it to them directly. They aren't friends right?

[istiak2277]

That 40 mile long armored forced turned to be dummy and was implemented to identify how many aircraft Ukraine armed force left. One of Russians officials said that lately. Not only Ukraine Russia is also losing some aircraft and a great number of soldier to these war. Both economy is suffering due to these ongoing conflict which is slowly becoming the Syria of east.

[palle11]

That 40 mile long armored forced turned to be dummy and was implemented to identify how many aircraft Ukraine armed force left. One of Russians officials said that lately. Not only Ukraine Russia is also losing some aircraft and a great number of soldier to these war. Both economy is suffering due to these ongoing conflict which is slowly becoming the Syria of east.

I think the war is having negative effect in both countries. Watching Ukrainian leave there country is worrisome, the Russian forces too are getting a hard resistance from the Ukrainian soldiers and they are losing men too. They are fighting not to give up their territory to Russia. But now Russian military is planning to attack the city of Odessa as the next attack.

[iv4n]

It’s been over 10 days or so and it’s still getting bad. We all assumed they would have some peace talks and find so resolution. However Facebook is down, credit cards, auto companies, fedex, etc. The entire country is going to become North Korea pretty much.

Pretty sure no citizen wants that, seems only Putin wants this war. Wonder when this will finally end. Here in North America , gas is getting out of control. Basically rising by a few cents every day and looking at price of crude no relief in sight.

I don't believe this will end soon! It's obvious that Russia has a plan and will not stop until it's realized! It's certain that the Russians are bothered by all these sanctions, the West is attacking the financial sector in the hope that it may slow down the Russian army and its actions, but that is not happening or it takes time for the results to be seen!
There are a lot of stories from all sides, I'm afraid that someone will make some reckless move and make this an even bigger war, which seems like a real possibility! Putin is not the only one who wants this war, he has surrounded himself with people who support him and who are loyal to him! One man cannot fight alone! As president, he has definitely shown that he is ready to fight with many more opponents if they get involved in this conflict, for everything he says and the decisions he makes, he has the great support of the Russian Duma!

Prices started to jump even during the corona pandemic, everything has become more expensive, some construction materials are up over 100%, some groceries also over 100% ... yesterday I heard that the import of iron stopped because of this in Ukraine, sales have stopped, I expect an additional price increase for sure! It's happening all over the world, and I don't see an end to it!

[Argoo]

That 40 mile long armored forced turned to be dummy and was implemented to identify how many aircraft Ukraine armed force left. One of Russians officials said that lately. Not only Ukraine Russia is also losing some aircraft and a great number of soldier to these war. Both economy is suffering due to these ongoing conflict which is slowly becoming the Syria of east.

Russia has thrown eight out of ten of its armies into Ukraine, about 95 percent of all the troops it has gathered at its borders earlier. After unsuccessful offensives on all four fronts of attack, the Russian army launched rocket and bomb attacks on homes, hospitals, schools and other civilian infrastructure in an effort to cause more damage to the Ukrainian economy.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are very professionally grinding the military power of the Russian Federation and they are greatly assisted in this by local self-defense units and the whole people, because they are defending their independence.

To date, in 11 days of a full-scale war, according to official data from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Russia's losses are:
- more than 11,000 killed,
- 290 destroyed tanks,
- 999 armored vehicles,
- 46 aircraft,
- 68 helicopters,
- 117 artillery systems,
- 50 salvo fire systems,
- 23 air defense systems,
- 454 different vehicles,
- 3 warships, etc.

Russia is already experiencing serious problems in terms of troops, ammunition, and logistics. After all, Putin and his entourage expected to completely occupy Ukraine in a maximum of four days. They are already beginning to understand that they cannot win this war.

[Desmong]

The damage of the war on Ukraine was brutal and thank God for the western support to prevent much damage on Ukraine which had affect the country economy and other areas.  The Russians thought defeating the Ukrainian soldiers would be easy but was encumbered by massive artilleries and air defense system that was able to put the Russians troop in disharmony.

[Etranger]

and the power plant that was blown up is one of the economic resources for Ukraine.

First of all, the nuclear power plant wasn`t blown up. There war a fire near it, but the station is pretty much safe right now, although the station was seized by the occupiers and they are blackmailing Ukraine, because they can cause an imminent catastrophe there at any moment. I created a thread about that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388300.0)

Returning to economic issues, I think that despite the horror and devastation that Ukraine is currently experiencing, this period is also the birth and formation of a fundamentally new state. Ukrainians have a chance to prove themselves as confident, strong people who defend the world's democratic values ​​and human rights. And they show that they are ready to fight for it until the victorious end. After the war, new investment opportunities will open up. I am confident that the world community will have new beliefs about Ukraine, a new basis for investing in the development of our country. The whole world is interested in the reconstruction of the Ukrainian economy.

[molsewid]

I think the war is having negative effect in both countries. Watching Ukrainian leave there country is worrisome, the Russian forces too are getting a hard resistance from the Ukrainian soldiers and they are losing men too. They are fighting not to give up their territory to Russia. But now Russian military is planning to attack the city of Odessa as the next attack.

Definitely, it's true that both countries who are involved in the war will going to suffer losses. But what more concerning about this war is the lives of people involved in it either it's the soldier defending and offending their country's territory but much more is the life of the civilian people who are only wanted to live in a peaceful and safe environment. I just do hope that this war may over now, now that it already takes 11 days we have seen a record of many losses and damages on both countries.

[Doan9269]

The beginning of the war is what we all see,  the end is unpredictable to which side will be mostly affect at the long run,  but I wish the innocent  Russian citizens comfort at this time of swift ban experience on Russia and to all Ukrainians too,  the perfect defence we could  is to protect ourself from inherent problems  within, this war can easily come to an end only if Putin can consider the pain on the innocent souls and citizens bearing the cross of his actions, I also know that Ukraine  will survive it with the help of God,  US, NATO, UK and other international reinforcement and history  will make itself soon.

[South Park]

My question is when these satellite images where shown and again they got some delay while coming to Ukraine, then why can't the Ukraine stop them by throwing missiles on them or Ukraine don't have such rocket missiles that can set the tanks ablaze.
Or Russia got everywhere covered by closing up the space that they can be attacked on air ?

If you follow the news back to back concerning the ongoing war, you will discover that its not only Russia that is striking Ukraine but rather vise versa, Ukraine too are giving it hot on Russia, in fact Russia never expected such moves from Ukraine but nevertheless Ukraine still suffer more casualties, as at today it was recorded that Russia lost 3 of its commanders amidst the struggle as they try to ignite one of the EU nuclear power plant which could cause a great havoc on humanitarian life and well-being as the Russian citizens also cry out lamenting on such step is inhuman and a genocide which could affect the entire world and not only Ukraine if allowed.

And while without a doubt it is a good thing that the Ukrainian soldiers can strike back, at  the same time this is going to create in the Russian soldiers an even bigger desire to win, which means destroying most of the economic resources of Ukraine, so even if Ukraine somehow got to repel the Russian invaders their economy will take such a hit that most likely they will need decades to recover even with the support of the US and other countries.

[Desmong]

The beginning of the war is what we all see,  the end is unpredictable to which side will be mostly affect at the long run,  but I wish the innocent  Russian citizens comfort at this time of swift ban experience on Russia and to all Ukrainians too,  the perfect defence we could  is to protect ourself from inherent problems  within, this war can easily come to an end only if Putin can consider the pain on the innocent souls and citizens bearing the cross of his actions, I also know that Ukraine  will survive it with the help of God,  US, NATO, UK and other international reinforcement and history  will make itself soon.

The war between Russians and the Ukrainians was really unbelievable cause we'll never expected that Russia will take a bold step to attack her neighboring country who had been a peaceful country without any problem. This is a time when we don't need to look at using this avenue to attack the Russians or their companies which looks very unethical in a general view.

[Argoo]

The beginning of the war is what we all see,  the end is unpredictable to which side will be mostly affect at the long run,  but I wish the innocent  Russian citizens comfort at this time of swift ban experience on Russia and to all Ukrainians too,  the perfect defence we could  is to protect ourself from inherent problems  within, this war can easily come to an end only if Putin can consider the pain on the innocent souls and citizens bearing the cross of his actions, I also know that Ukraine  will survive it with the help of God,  US, NATO, UK and other international reinforcement and history  will make itself soon.

There are no innocent citizens of Russia in the military attack on Ukraine. Every citizen of Russia is now to blame for allowing more than 20 years of Putin's rule, in which he is not controlled by society and does whatever he pleases. In the 21st century, Putin has taken it into his head to seize the territory of a neighboring state just because he is dissatisfied with its domestic and foreign policies.
The Russian military is now openly shelling residential buildings in Ukraine, destroying the economy of this state. They have already destroyed 102 schools, 34 hospitals, more than 1,500 residential buildings in Ukraine. But Russian soldiers, having arranged the genocide of the Ukrainian people, are also citizens of Russia, someone's fathers, husbands, brothers. All of them are now guilty, including that 38 children in Ukraine have already died at the hands of the Russian occupiers and more than 70 have been injured.
Therefore, economic sanctions against all Russians should be the most severe, and the blocked funds of Russia should go to Ukraine to compensate for the damage from their military aggression.

[kaya11]

Russia is already experiencing serious problems in terms of troops, ammunition, and logistics. After all, Putin and his entourage expected to completely occupy Ukraine in a maximum of four days. They are already beginning to understand that they cannot win this war.

I just can't easily believe on this chart, is this somehow came from legit source? I mean if the Ukraine's Defense Minister said this, it could also be lies to boost the morale of their soldiers, or show other countries that they can do it and with a little bit of help from others they could destroy Russia totally. It is obvious that their President is seeking help, day by day. That means he is in dire situation and even released some prisoners to fight back. Also Putin is not dumb, going to war that he cannot win is unlikely to happen. He meant it when he said there will be no winners, he is suicidal and by any chance he loses this, that Red button is most likely to be pushed.

[el kaka22]

I don't believe this will end soon! It's obvious that Russia has a plan and will not stop until it's realized! It's certain that the Russians are bothered by all these sanctions, the West is attacking the financial sector in the hope that it may slow down the Russian army and its actions, but that is not happening or it takes time for the results to be seen!
There are a lot of stories from all sides, I'm afraid that someone will make some reckless move and make this an even bigger war, which seems like a real possibility! Putin is not the only one who wants this war, he has surrounded himself with people who support him and who are loyal to him! One man cannot fight alone! As president, he has definitely shown that he is ready to fight with many more opponents if they get involved in this conflict, for everything he says and the decisions he makes, he has the great support of the Russian Duma!

Let's not say that "Russia has a plan", it is Putin. People are giving too much credit on this war and too much credit for Putin as well. Everyone is like "there must be something behind it, he would know that sanctions would happen and get prepared for it" but the reality is that we are getting to 50% loss value on Ruble very soon, another week or so and we will be there.

There is no war won neither, sure Russia got into a piece of land right away, but aside from that Ukraine hasn't backed down from the places they said they want to protect. Like, yeah donbas is Russian now, but Kiev could have been gone already if they didn't defend, but they are defending it very well. So, do not imagine Russia "must be up to something" just because they are losing, they are losing because they are idiots and Russian soldiers are not quite too happy or hyped enough to attack neither.

[Ararbermas]

My question is when these satellite images where shown and again they got some delay while coming to Ukraine, then why can't the Ukraine stop them by throwing missiles on them or Ukraine don't have such rocket missiles that can set the tanks ablaze.
Or Russia got everywhere covered by closing up the space that they can be attacked on air ?

its not easy like what you think mate that Ukraine can easily throw missile using satellite and then it all done, i mean the war will end immediately after that. Nope! because if they do that it means they really wanted to make war and it will become worse IMO.

imagine how many troops Russian has compared to Ukraine .they want peace not war, wherein they all want to defend their land reason they still keep fighting..

[Etranger]

I mean if the Ukraine's Defense Minister said this, it could also be lies to boost the morale of their soldiers, or show other countries that they can do it and with a little bit of help from others they could destroy Russia totally.

The morale of the Ukrainian army is uplifted by the fact that they are really defeating the enemy. It's not easy, but our defenders know what they are fighting for. We are on our own land and we are defending our right to live here as we see fit. Can Russia say something about believing in its own goal? Russian soldiers surrender, give out information and refuse to fight. You do not need to see the numbers of losses on both sides to see who truly believes in the victory.

It is obvious that their President is seeking help, day by day. That means he is in dire situation and even released some prisoners to fight back.

Yes, the situation is difficult. But how can it be different? This is the war. Some of the prisoners were released not because the situation was hopeless, but because some of them had military experience, which is now an indispensable advantage. We do not seek help because we cannot cope on our own. This is because we are sure that Putin will not stop only at Ukraine. He will move on if he is not stopped by joint efforts. The most interesting thing is that we are not the only ones, who believes so
https://www.politico.eu/article/putin-hit-nato-baltic-win-ukraine-eu-valdis-dombrovskis/

Also Putin is not dumb, going to war that he cannot win is unlikely to happen. He meant it when he said there will be no winners, he is suicidal and by any chance he loses this, that Red button is most likely to be pushed.

It seems to me that the end of your thesis obviously implies that Putin is an idiot.

[Marykeller]

When all this war between Ukraine and Russia will be over, Ukrainian are the ones to suffer it most. Russia will face sanctions while China enables to help them to sort ways out of all the sanctions. The collateral damage will still be ringing into Ukrainian ears each passing day. The war is brought to their doorstep, not on Russian soil, that's the worst thing happening to them. I pray they survive all this(war) in no time cos I see the Russian armies not ready to retreat from Ukraine soil soon

[hatshepsut93]

Sadly, despite billions in damage, the destruction is just starting. Russia's strategy is completely leveling whole cities, towns and villages, in order to terrorize the government into signing Russia's demands. And Ukraine is defending itself as best as it can, but it can't match Russia in open field, and its air defense can't cover and intercept everything.

[DrBeer]

My question is when these satellite images where shown and again they got some delay while coming to Ukraine, then why can't the Ukraine stop them by throwing missiles on them or Ukraine don't have such rocket missiles that can set the tanks ablaze.
Or Russia got everywhere covered by closing up the space that they can be attacked on air ?

If you follow the news back to back concerning the ongoing war, you will discover that its not only Russia that is striking Ukraine but rather vise versa, Ukraine too are giving it hot on Russia, in fact Russia never expected such moves from Ukraine but nevertheless Ukraine still suffer more casualties, as at today it was recorded that Russia lost 3 of its commanders amidst the struggle as they try to ignite one of the EU nuclear power plant which could cause a great havoc on humanitarian life and well-being as the Russian citizens also cry out lamenting on such step is inhuman and a genocide which could affect the entire world and not only Ukraine if allowed.

And while without a doubt it is a good thing that the Ukrainian soldiers can strike back, at  the same time this is going to create in the Russian soldiers an even bigger desire to win, which means destroying most of the economic resources of Ukraine, so even if Ukraine somehow got to repel the Russian invaders their economy will take such a hit that most likely they will need decades to recover even with the support of the US and other countries.

I am a citizen of Ukraine, who is in the ranks of the Territorial Defense units. I saw Russian soldiers. I have never seen such pathetic people. Deeply demoralized, hungry, wounded and abandoned by their commanders on the battlefield. Believe me - if there are tactical surrenders of territories, it is only due to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply do not have time to destroy the Russian soldiers. It feels like the Russian army is an army of sheep that were simply sent to the slaughter! I can show real photos with dozens of really many kilometers destroyed columns of the Russian army!
Regarding the "destruction of Ukraine and the economy of Ukraine." What is, a fact: targeted bombing of residential areas, schools, hospitals, kindergartens, shops ... This is world terrorism, rashism.
What is not: the economy of Ukraine, of course, suffered, but most of the industrial enterprises are intact, and the financial and banking sector is working stably. If in Russia the ruble is going down, then in Ukraine the exchange rate against the Ukrainian hryvnia, on the contrary, is declining.