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The resolution available is only the end which justifies the means, Putin is not ready to withdraw and Ukraine is not quiting and EU, US and NATO allies are not relenting in giving Ukraine it support needed, with the way of the look of things Russia may be short in millitary workforce and ammunition if the war linger except it receives help from China or any other country. Russia believe in it potentiality through engaging in war but forget to remember that things fall apart atimes, sometimes one may plan to arrive at the moon but later ended landing on the Pluto, that is war.
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March 08, 2022, 07:15:19 AM |
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I find it hard to believe that Putin would embark on a war in Ukraine with supposedly so few resources. And I find it hard to believe that Russia supposedly has so few military resources.
On the other hand I am also not happy about the idea that he is completely cornered and thinks he has nothing left to lose anymore.
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Must a a "expert", similar to all the covid experts.
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The resolution available is only the end which justifies the means, Putin is not ready to withdraw and Ukraine is not quiting and EU, US and NATO allies are not relenting in giving Ukraine it support needed, with the way of the look of things Russia may be short in millitary workforce and ammunition if the war linger except it receives help from China or any other country. Russia believe in it potentiality through engaging in war but forget to remember that things fall apart atimes, sometimes one may plan to arrive at the moon but later ended landing on the Pluto, that is war.
Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement. Putin knows that this war will cause their economy to crash and they will be locked out of the international community, but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression.
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March 09, 2022, 02:43:39 PM |
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That sounds a bit too optimistic. Wars lasts for years, how they couldn't have resources for two weeks? They started this war and don't think they might be THAT incompetent.
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March 09, 2022, 02:46:24 PM |
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Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement.
Russia has intention to engage the war because when they started mounting troops at the boarder, there was a call for alarm and several bodies asked Putin if there's no any intention of invading Ukraine but he keep muted. but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression. Aggression for what? Is it a crime to share boarder with Russia? Or is Russia not different from Ukraine?
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March 09, 2022, 03:19:57 PM |
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Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement.
Russia has intention to engage the war because when they started mounting troops at the boarder, there was a call for alarm and several bodies asked Putin if there's no any intention of invading Ukraine but he keep muted. but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression. Aggression for what? Is it a crime to share boarder with Russia? Or is Russia not different from Ukraine? putin considers ukranians genocidal neonazis and that quite seriously thats why he is there
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March 09, 2022, 03:58:27 PM |
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How optimistic can one be about a resolution?
I don't think we're near a resolution yet, and things will get worse. But equally, yes, I'm sure the Russian army has its weaknesses. Not least being all the reports we hear of captured Russian soldiers who don't know why they are there. And the equipment is likely a bit out-dated and vulnerable to western-supplied Ukranian weapons. I'd imagine morale in the Russian troops is not so great. And the supply lines are of course an issue.
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March 09, 2022, 08:58:09 PM |
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I would not say that. Ukrainians only destroyed about 10% of Russia's military equipment (at least the quotas they report to the world).
Ukrainians did not kill enough Homo Sovieticus soldiers to make a dent in Putin's army. They need to stop taking POWs and increase Soviet body count.
On the ground, Putin's army stands no chance.
It is refreshing that the UK is going to give them anti-air missiles and anti-tank weapons to prevent Putin from raining bombs and missiles on civilian targets.
It is going to be a long and bloody war.
Once Ukrainians destroy 60-70% of Putin's equipment (at this rate probably in 3 months), NATO should help Georgia to open another front in Georgia to recover the territories occupied by Russia.
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March 09, 2022, 09:26:36 PM |
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I'm very sceptical about such information. As said above they destroyed only about 10% of russian military equipment. I don't know how reliable these numbers is, but there was 150 000 - 190 000 troops by the boarder. 90% of them is already in Ukraine. As reported by Ukraine, over 12000 were killed, over 30000 were injured or taken as POW's. It's obvious that things don't gobas Russia planned. Blitzkrieg operation failed and they weren't ready for long war. They're struggling with supply. Morale of troops is low. But now when they didn't achieved what they planned they started to simply destroy cities and kill civilians. That sounds a bit too optimistic. Wars lasts for years, how they couldn't have resources for two weeks? They started this war and don't think they might be THAT incompetent.
They didn't expected so much resistance. From US intelligence reports, Putin is isolated from real informationand nobody don't tell him truth what is exactly going on. Not least being all the reports we hear of captured Russian soldiers who don't know why they are there.
I don't believe it's true. They know exactly were they going and they were only teached to tell that stupid excuse.
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March 09, 2022, 09:41:19 PM |
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How optimistic can one be about a resolution?
Putin being a very stubborn character, I doubt he will give in that easily unless he has achieved what he wanted, which I think is very unlikely in the long run. Something tells me he will even resort to a nuclear war just to nurse his bruised ego. You simply can't invade and control a country where it's citizens don't like you. In the long run, it will be a failed war for him.
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I'm very sceptical about such information. As said above they destroyed only about 10% of russian military equipment. I don't know how reliable these numbers is, but there was 150 000 - 190 000 troops by the boarder. 90% of them is already in Ukraine. As reported by Ukraine, over 12000 were killed, over 30000 were injured or taken as POW's
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I am as well sceptical, the numbers you provide are nearly impossible to verify but seem not possible. It is just a question of time, it is difficult to loose that many resources in such a little time and does not match past war experiences in comparable scenarios. What I do believe is that Putin miscalculated quite a few things: the resistance of Ukrainians, the speed and size of the world's response and, and this why I published the post, the state of his own army. No air superiority to be seen, slow advances if any and, lastly, having to resort to bomb the cities despite civilians, temerity or even plain incompetency by fighting near the nuclear reactors,... That does not look like an overpowerfull, almighty, well supplied and high morale, technologically superior army at all.
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March 09, 2022, 10:32:15 PM |
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Must a a "expert", similar to all the covid experts.
That's a smart one. In our time, reports happens to have been neutralised along by the government before its released to the public. Though, he might not be a regular street guy, it doesn't mean his not reporting out of what is made available to him. For a fact, Putin just might have planned for this war from a time before hand. Maybe not including the sanctions but I strongly doubt, the resources his got to keep the war going and the military might of the Russians would span over a week or 2 weeks of war. It's my hope that both nations come to terms with themselves over a peaceful revolution as, this is just a further break down of there nations economy and destruction of human life.
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The 2nd most powerful military on the planet will collapse after only less than 2 weeks of fighting ? i find that really hard to believe no matter where it came from.
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The 2nd most powerful military on the planet will collapse after only less than 2 weeks of fighting ? i find that really hard to believe no matter where it came from. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F3rldt8kres051.jpg&t=665&c=o-0K7T-Es7N4FQ) The strength of an army is not only their weapons and certainly is rarely on its numbers. Many made the same mistake in the last few thousand years. The strongest of Putin's weapons are the ones that is simply a suicide to use (nukes).
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That's becoming a meme. You need to request new talking points from your handlers.
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Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement.
Russia has intention to engage the war because when they started mounting troops at the boarder, there was a call for alarm and several bodies asked Putin if there's no any intention of invading Ukraine but he keep muted. but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression. Aggression for what? Is it a crime to share boarder with Russia? Or is Russia not different from Ukraine? Don't look at the Russians like they are the most guilty. Russia put troops on the border because indeed they had received reports that Ukraine would join NATO and it was only the first step in anticipation if NATO built its base on the Ukrainian border. Just imagine if Mexico had an alliance with Russia and Russia built its nuclear base on the Mexican-US border, what would the US response be?
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Don't look at the Russians like they are the most guilty. Russia put troops on the border because indeed they had received reports that Ukraine would join NATO and it was only the first step in anticipation if NATO built its base on the Ukrainian border. Just imagine if Mexico had an alliance with Russia and Russia built its nuclear base on the Mexican-US border, what would the US response be?
Does NATO build it defense at the boarder of other countries who are NATO allies?
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