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December 06, 2011, 11:31:36 PM
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Why hasn't anyone developed a Bitcoin thin client using bitcoinsharp or bitcoinj.  Is this in the works somewhere or do I don't know what I'm talkin about?

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Every time a block is mined, a certain amount of BTC (called the subsidy) is created out of thin air and given to the miner. The subsidy halves every four years and will reach 0 in about 130 years.
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December 06, 2011, 11:54:15 PM
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The one I know of is Electrum http://ecdsa.org/electrum/

Personally haven't tried it yet so can't speak if there are any issues with it, but is ugly as a sin on windows (uses GTK).


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December 07, 2011, 02:55:35 AM
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http://blockchain.info/wallet

The best thing of this online wallet is, it's stored on the server after encryption.

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December 08, 2011, 01:03:58 PM
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http://strongcoin.com
http://blockchain.info/wallet


you can backup your priv keys yourself so if the site disappears you still have your btc's
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December 08, 2011, 01:19:02 PM
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The one I know of is Electrum http://ecdsa.org/electrum/

Personally haven't tried it yet so can't speak if there are any issues with it, but is ugly as a sin on windows (uses GTK).

hopefully Electrum will soon have a Qt gui

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December 08, 2011, 09:28:02 PM
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Don't you also need to point the electrum thin client to an electrum server?

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December 08, 2011, 09:32:15 PM
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Don't you also need to point the electrum thin client to an electrum server?


I'm pretty sure all thin clients need to be pointed at a server.  Hence the "thin" part.  There are currently 2 public electrum servers up.  Electrum doesn't require giving the server your private keys though, so it is secure.

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December 09, 2011, 07:42:04 AM
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I think it is really dangerous to use any online bitcoin clients.
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December 11, 2011, 01:46:42 AM
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I think it is really dangerous to use any online bitcoin clients.
There are risks involved with everything. If you understand the risk and trust the provider, they are no different than any other financial institution.

Thin clients definitely make sense for tons of situations. Just downloading and verifying the entire block chain can be a huge hassle for mobile and embedded devices.
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December 11, 2011, 02:04:12 AM
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I think it is really dangerous to use any online bitcoin clients.
Exactly what risk are you talking about for these clients?

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December 11, 2011, 02:53:43 AM
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Not sure if it technically fits the definition, but BitcoinSpinner is a very simple, working Android app that doesn't download the blockchain, but let's you view the balance of and send transactions from a single keypair (which is stored on the phone, not the server it connects to.)

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December 11, 2011, 06:38:26 AM
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The thin client I am referring to is the one Satoshi exemplifies in his Bitcoin paper.   

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December 11, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
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I think it is really dangerous to use any online bitcoin clients.
Yes but.. where are the online clients here?

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December 13, 2011, 02:10:00 AM
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What makes these clients "thin" and secure?
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December 13, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
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What makes these clients "thin" and secure?
Thin: it doesn't download the blockchain. It connect to a server and ask to it info about it.

It's secure cause it work like a normal client, it have it's wallet and the private keys and simply ask to the server info about the blocks and how many btc do your wallet have.

The wallet stay on your computer, the server NEVER see it, never require the private keys.

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December 13, 2011, 08:26:12 PM
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What makes these clients "thin" and secure?
Thin: it doesn't download the blockchain. It connect to a server and ask to it info about it.

It's secure cause it work like a normal client, it have it's wallet and the private keys and simply ask to the server info about the blocks and how many btc do your wallet have.

The wallet stay on your computer, the server NEVER see it, never require the private keys.
Surprised they don't recommend thin client instead of official client. Downloading block chain takes forever...
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December 13, 2011, 08:30:18 PM
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But it is fundamental to the survival of bitcoin.

Since bitcoin is a decentralized and peer 2 peer thing, it need as many nodes as possible relaying blocks and having the full blockchain

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December 13, 2011, 11:45:58 PM
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Bitcoinspinner is awesome for street activity. You just have to remember to change wallets from time to time, depending on how paranoid you like to be

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December 14, 2011, 12:04:15 AM
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What happened to being able to trim down the block chain? I like the idea of having a client that doesn't rely on any server, but doesn't take up 2GB of space per copy.
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December 14, 2011, 03:32:53 AM
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What happened to being able to trim down the block chain? I like the idea of having a client that doesn't rely on any server, but doesn't take up 2GB of space per copy.

I think our digital wizards are still working on that... it'll be some time yet.

Bitcoin is the ultimate freedom test. It tells you who is giving lip service and who genuinely believes in it.
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