Blame Game in gambling

[noormcs5]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

[Maus0728]

Gambling Disorder ?

There had been a recent discussion about this topic. And you may try reading some of the insights given by other members about their opinion on the said issue.

[virasog]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

In our culture gambling is a cure. People are forbidden to gamble, it is strictly not accepted in our religion as well. As per Our religious and cultural teachings  to much gambling  brings an unnecessary stress to the nevers and make a person weak inside. It makes you rich in a jiffy or it makes you a beggar in the other moment. Also easy come, easy go. There is no bless in that money and one loses the money as easily as the way they get it.  I personally believe one should be very careful indulging in self destructive activities.

If in your culture and religion, gambling is prohibited then why are you wearing a gambling signature and promoting gambling? So do you think this income from gambling will be considered as a good income for you?

Same is our stance on everything in life including gambling. We do whatever we like but we do not want our children to do the same things. If parents didn't gamble in the first place, there are fewer chances of their children doing the same.

[ipanks]

The answer is that parents are very busy with their work and they leave the supervision to the people they hire to take care of the housework in their homes. Most of what happens are that when children start to grow up, parents who work in offices experience an increase in a career to have more work, making their home life disorganized.

Children who have been close to their parents from a young age lose their father or mother figure because their parents are busy with work or business. And finally, many children fall into bad things and from there, the problem of gambling addiction or drug addiction arises.

Yes, it is parental negligence as they are too busy with their work. We have often seen cases where it makes children today tend to be angrier if what they want is not fulfilled. Hopefully, we can be better parents than those out there and watch over our kids growing up well.

[TopT3ns]

Gambling Disorder ?

There had been a recent discussion about this topic. And you may try reading some of the insights given by other members about their opinion on the said issue.

I think have the same cases talking on last topic but was closed reply there and I don't know why he try make new topic with the same discussing, I think all parent need to educate about his kid not allowed for gambling site before pass 18 years old, I think have been discuss on last topic before and not need to make new topic again with the same discussing opinion. Maybe he try give good educate for parent with his kid how to know with gambling site and really need to educate all kid before active in gambling site between sport betting or casino games.

[Kakmakr]

Let me also quote from this article that were posted.... “As the mental health charity Mind and others acknowledge, the reasons behind any suicide are ‘complex and can have lots of different causes’."

So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)

I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people) 

[noormcs5]

Gambling Disorder ?

There had been a recent discussion about this topic. And you may try reading some of the insights given by other members about their opinion on the said issue.

I think have the same cases talking on last topic but was closed reply there and I don't know why he try make new topic with the same discussing, I think all parent need to educate about his kid not allowed for gambling site before pass 18 years old, I think have been discuss on last topic before and not need to make new topic again with the same discussing opinion. Maybe he try give good educate for parent with his kid how to know with gambling site and really need to educate all kid before active in gambling site between sport betting or casino games.

That old topic was locked and hence we could not discuss it further. I created this topic again because it is a sensitive issue and many gamblers (mainly the newcomers), should know the side effects of gambling for the underage. Previously most physical casino did not allow underage people to access the casino but this online gambling has removed all restrictions and we see a lot of depression and anxiety in the younger generation becoming addicted to gambling.

[Wexnident]

Well ultimately the one to blame would be the person involved themselves, the rest are just third parties with some degree of influence to the party involved, emphasis on the "some". Sure parents can actively involve themselves in educating their kid, but in the end, it would still be the kid themselves who would decide if he would do something or not. As I said in a previous thread before, influence can be long-lasting but at the same time, it could also be not. A person can choose what they  can be influenced on imo.

[YOSHIE]

From the source that the OP showed, and I read carefully, I concluded Jack's death as stated by Jack's parents below, I don't agree.

“Gambling was the root and trigger of Jack’s death. The coroner heard that ‘it took hold of a happy healthy 17-year-old child and killed him’.

If I'm not mistaken, in this forum we have all been warned many times about the risks of gambling addiction, from the source Jack committed suicide due to gambling addiction, question: where were their parents, before Jack got addicted and ended his life, did they care about Jack all his life.

Cases like this have happened in my country, parents are busy with work, their children are given tens of dollars every month, but the old man never knew what the money was used for, one day the old man found out the money he gave every month was spent on gambling by his son, parents are very angry, then immediately scolded him very rudely, the end of the story the child did not accept, because he was already seriously addicted, ended up committing suicide, In a case like this, who is to blame, the parents, the child or the gambling company, everyone can judge who was behind the child's death.

[yazher]

Well ultimately the one to blame would be the person involved themselves, the rest are just third parties with some degree of influence to the party involved, emphasis on the "some". Sure parents can actively involve themselves in educating their kid, but in the end, it would still be the kid themselves who would decide if he would do something or not. As I said in a previous thread before, influence can be long-lasting but at the same time, it could also be not. A person can choose what they  can be influenced on imo.

It's just like any addictive thing, whenever you feel to yourself you're doing more than you used to and you continue doing it every day, it means you need some help outside your comfort zone. Because if you let it consume you, it will get worse every day and you might fall into some deadly thoughts and beliefs. That's why you can see some hotline for consultation and other stuff because they know that the crucial thing to do first is to talk to that kind of people and help them with counseling their problems.

[Ryker1]

Well in the first place parents should have the responsibility with their children, it should be rise with a good moral and the most important is not to involve in gambling addict and should focus on study. If parents are busy with work they can hire a nanny for the child.
We cannot blame anything except the parents, diligence towards their children should always be guided by them.
However, a teacher won't teach their students a bad manner or habit at a young age pupil, never blame them if your child was in gambling addiction.

[Taskford]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

The only one who's to be blame on such unfortunate incident is the gambler itself because he will not go thru that situation if he just moderate things. We know he's minor but for sure he can think already for his self if this is bad or good. And for continue to participatinf on those risky games even if he know he's not gaining anything also this already affect his daily activities in life. We can't blame their parents on this case since we don't know if they have other things needed to take care to as we know our parents is busy working or taking care of something important to provide the daily needs of their children but since this case already happen maybe its good for them to seek experts advise on this situation.

[AicecreaME]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Indeed, this is a case of parent's negligence. Parental guidance during the growth of their children is essential. Their teachings and nourishment during the crucial years from being a kid to their early adolescence is of importance so that they could develop the learnings, principles, beliefs, attitude, and discipline they need while growing up. Being absent during those times that the children need the proper guidance from their parents could lead to several things such as developing anxiety, depression, and even addiction. Gambling addiction is a problem that could have been prevented if there were adults that will guide and lead the child into proper and right path. It is parents responsibility to take care of their children. It is their duty and obligation to ensure their safety and they are having a good health. A parent shouldn't pass their responsibility to other people because it is their kid in the first place. No one would be responsible aside from them, not even their teachers for exhibiting such behaviors.

I know parents do their very best to provide the support  their children need. However, it is also important to take a pause for a while and check up on them. Let's not be caught up with work to the point we neglect our responsibilities to our children.

[judeafante]

Let me also quote from this article that were posted.... “As the mental health charity Mind and others acknowledge, the reasons behind any suicide are ‘complex and can have lots of different causes’."

So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)

I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people) 

People turn to gambling, as an outlet for their depression, it's actually the depression that causes it, and the depression manifested more when the person started losing more and cannot keep up with losing they do not know how to address losing like when they do not know how to address depression, depression kills and gambling is not a place to release your depression, you will suffer more.

[Coin_trader]

Let me also quote from this article that were posted.... “As the mental health charity Mind and others acknowledge, the reasons behind any suicide are ‘complex and can have lots of different causes’."

So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)

I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people) 

People turn to gambling, as an outlet for their depression, it's actually the depression that causes it, and the depression manifested more when the person started losing more and cannot keep up with losing they do not know how to address losing like when they do not know how to address depression, depression kills and gambling is not a place to release your depression, you will suffer more.

Yeah, Gambling is easy to access as recreational activity to release stress especially for those who has depression and easy access on the internet. Actually there's no one need to blame on this kind of incident since neither the parents nor the specialist want this to happened. I believe it's very hard to stop this kind of problem if the person itself don't want to help his/herself to overcome depression. Gambling with depression will just amplify the pain of the person whenever he lose money. On this case, KYC is playing an important role to control this kind of incident.

[ropyu1978]

Well in the first place parents should have the responsibility with their children, it should be rise with a good moral and the most important is not to involve in gambling addict and should focus on study. If parents are busy with work they can hire a nanny for the child.
We cannot blame anything except the parents, diligence towards their children should always be guided by them.
However, a teacher won't teach their students a bad manner or habit at a young age pupil, never blame them if your child was in gambling addiction.

If for example we are still the responsibility of our parents, it is certain that the role of parents takes precedence, when we are mature and independent we must control ourselves so as not to fall into gambling, we cannot blame the game. and the environment, because it all depends on ourselves, if I blame the game I lack respect, even though we live in an environment of people playing gambling if we are good at taking care of ourselves, surely we will not be affected..

[ChiBitCTy]

I agree with you. Many of peoples issues or wrong doings can often be placed on bad parenting. If you read the book Think Like a Freak it breaks this down. Why were the parents allowing them to so easily be able to gamble. How the heck did they have the money to do so. I without question think some of the blame if not most goes on the parents.

[asus09]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

the adage once said, because of habit we become addicted, if we ever fall once we will most likely repeat the second time, after that we will be addicted and can't be separated from games and gambling, before we move on we better think first, because if we regret later it's useless, it's the job of parents to advise, but we have to be good at taking care of ourselves, the teacher's job is to provide education, reduce association with an unhealthy environment, look for friends who give motivation, not friends who plunge us into a muddy hole.

[Mauser]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

We already have a thread about this artible here in the gambling discussion thread. Maybe try and merge the discussion in there?  You are right that the parents should have helped his son. With 24 years the parents don't have any supervision duties anymore, but they should have helped their kid nonetheless. Gambling is similar to other things in life that bring us joy, we shouldn't over do them. Everything should be done with limits, like drinking alcohol, smoking, or eating unhealthy food. The gambling industry is not the villain here.

[aioc]

I agree with you. Many of peoples issues or wrong doings can often be placed on bad parenting. If you read the book Think Like a Freak it breaks this down. Why were the parents allowing them to so easily be able to gamble. How the heck did they have the money to do so. I without question think some of the blame if not most goes on the parents.

They are not to blame all the time, there are gamblers who developed their gambling addictions when they are old enough already make money and can decide on their own, there's a root cause of it all, not the parents all the time, sometimes from habit from the stress of works from surroundings and influences coming from peers and the place where they live, each case is very much different from the other.