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March 13, 2022, 10:23:40 AM Last edit: March 13, 2022, 12:56:11 PM by DVlog |
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Rruchi man
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March 13, 2022, 11:39:10 AM |
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Tension is rising everywhere in the globe. We are really at the doorstep of the greatest war in human history?
I certainly hope not, widespread unrest and war will disrupt all activities of every individual in the world, even for us here forum members, our activities on this forum will be affected as many members will be scampering for safety and will barely have the time to contribute effectively here just as some of our Ukrainian brothers and sisters are currently experiencing. World War 3 is not something we wish for, we want peace, not war.
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March 13, 2022, 12:05:51 PM Last edit: March 13, 2022, 12:36:44 PM by mindrust |
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The war started long ago when the US couldn't overthrow Syria's leader Bashar Assad. Nobody sanctioned the US for invading Syria btw. What was the reason for this invasion again? Because Assad didn't cooperate with the US on their pipe line deal. Process this for a minute.
The US failed in Syria and then Afghanistan. Lost Syria to Russia, left their ammo and civilians in Afghanistan. Russia and China ain't blind. They have seen those major fuck ups.
*Forgot Crimea. Obama just watched it while Putin took Crimea like taking candy from a baby's hand.
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March 13, 2022, 12:12:46 PM |
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Possibly. It's not like we can do anything though when we have shadow governments hellbent on pursuing their interests no matter what. There's so many conspiracy theories running around but the only certainty is - we're fucked. *Forgot Crimea. Obama just watched it while Putin took Crimea like taking candy from a baby's hand.
I wonder if the invasion and annexation of Crimea played a part in the Ukrainian attempt to join the NATO. I know, it further triggered Russia but it seems to be an act of desperation. No matter, Zelensky overestimated Ukraine's importance to NATO, which pretty much didn't showed up to help them.
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March 13, 2022, 04:08:54 PM |
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I wonder if the invasion and annexation of Crimea played a part in the Ukrainian attempt to join the NATO. I know, it further triggered Russia but it seems to be an act of desperation. No matter, Zelensky overestimated Ukraine's importance to NATO, which pretty much didn't showed up to help them.
Crimea was annexed because of its natural resource in its basin. Also, it's one of the few seaports in the EU that don't freeze in times of winter. That means it's still operational for trade and other military activity. Crimea was important for Russia for economic purposes. But that doesn't give the Ukraine to join NATO right now. They should have taken more time and built their army with western weapons. Zelensky is shortsighted that's why he failed to anticipate NATO will not join a war against a nuclear-powered country.
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March 14, 2022, 03:24:46 AM |
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We've spent nearly 80 years operating under the assumption that it will eventually happen. Perhaps it never will, but brace yourself for even more interesting times.
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March 14, 2022, 03:41:00 AM |
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I would say that has more to do with having a US president who shows clear symptoms of senile dementia and who made a fool of himself with the withdrawal from Afghanistan. They are simply testing how far they can go. But no, although you never know if something will ultimately happen that will trigger a full-scale conflict, none of the politicians in charge of these countries are so stupid as to want to destroy the world. They enjoy their power too much and have delusions of grandeur, wanting to be remembered in history. If they start WWIII there will be nothing to remember.
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March 14, 2022, 05:35:39 AM |
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This is right and wrong at the same time. It wasn't "American base", it was 2 terrorist cells with ties to US. They were built close to the US consulate because they thought it could give them protection with their useless ABMs. The only help they received was a couple of C17 Globemasters to medevac the bodies. Obviously when a dozen hyper sonic bunker busters hit, they shake the whole neighborhood that includes the nearby consulate. I would say that has more to do with having a US president who shows clear symptoms of senile dementia and who made a fool of himself with the withdrawal from Afghanistan. They are simply testing how far they can go.
It's been going on for years. After all the biggest ballistic missile attack in history against US that destroyed two of the biggest US bases housing 6000 troops happened during the previous senile president.
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March 14, 2022, 05:51:59 AM |
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World war three and you'll be breathing ? This ain't the shit man, I hope for something better, the news about North Korea launching a missile into space has being confronted by Japan already, saying they're going against the rules. That news is outdated and we are not going to War, direct confrontation from US and NATO will only lead to this!
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March 14, 2022, 05:53:04 AM |
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It's been going on for years. After all the biggest ballistic missile attack in history against US that destroyed two of the biggest US bases housing 6000 troops happened during the previous senile president.
I seem to remember that you live in that part of the world. Yes, the issue with Iran goes back a long way, as well as that of China with Taiwan and Russia with Ukraine. Nor was Biden around when Russia annexed Crimea. Those tensions go way back and having someone who is perceived as weak in what is considered the world's leading power since the end of WWII doesn't help. Morevore, many bad things can be said about the previous president. I didn't like the way he was so cocky that it seemed that rather than being President of the Government, he was back on the show The Apprentice, to give you an example. And he was not a young man either, but I think it is clear that he did not show symptoms of a cognitive decline like Biden.
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March 14, 2022, 07:43:26 AM |
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It's really hard to tell. However, I would like to point out that China would not benefit from a World War, the world and economy has moved on from a superpower profiting from a prolonged world war, and I doubt it's in their interest. In an all-out conflict, it really gets down to whit whom will China side. And so far it's really not that clear. But, whatever we think about the Ukrainian invasion, it is unclear if it would lead to an allout war.
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NoorulHuda
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March 14, 2022, 08:33:44 AM |
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March 2022.
Tension is rising everywhere in the globe. We are really at the doorstep of the greatest war in human history?
I don't think so this is the door step for WW3. These steps which you have described not the new thing. This is not a new thing. Many countries do that. This is also not a new thing My friend. See here https://www.rferl.org/Content/responsive/RFE/img/webApp/ico-128x128.pngThis is not a new thing. They already has tension. Kashmir is one of them. This is also not a new thing. There is also tension b/w these two countries.
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March 14, 2022, 10:38:16 AM |
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I don't think that we are going to start a third world war, we are just going back to the time of the cold war it's true. I think today's leaders are not stupid enough to start a war that will cause economic destruction and the loss of millions of people. The issue of Ukraine and Russia is a different matter, and it will not trigger a third world war. But if Russia attacks America, it will definitely trigger a third world war, and I don't think Putin is stupid for doing that.
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March 14, 2022, 02:36:46 PM |
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Maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. Just prepare yourselves.
As for Ukraine, I doubt NATO would get heavily involved in it. Just look at their response as Russian tanks make their way into KYIV itself. They're avoiding direct confrontation with Russia. The only thing that can make this worse is if Putin decide to just keep Ukraine since that would be too close to Poland which is EU's border.
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merchantofzeny
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March 14, 2022, 03:46:53 PM |
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I wonder if the invasion and annexation of Crimea played a part in the Ukrainian attempt to join the NATO. I know, it further triggered Russia but it seems to be an act of desperation. No matter, Zelensky overestimated Ukraine's importance to NATO, which pretty much didn't showed up to help them.
Crimea was annexed because of its natural resource in its basin. Also, it's one of the few seaports in the EU that don't freeze in times of winter. That means it's still operational for trade and other military activity. Crimea was important for Russia for economic purposes. But that doesn't give the Ukraine to join NATO right now. They should have taken more time and built their army with western weapons. Zelensky is shortsighted that's why he failed to anticipate NATO will not join a war against a nuclear-powered country. And so I heard. Apparently most of Ukrainian oil/gas deposits are in the Donbas region and on the Black Sea within Crimea's EEZ. Also to add that Ukraine is one of the chokepoint for any invading force into Russia so it was thought of as Russia's gateway. As for whether Ukraine has time to build up a defense first before deciding to express determination to join NATO, I think they're really racing against time to try to recover the eastern territories, the same areas Russia is now forcing them to recognize as independent. Ukraine shouldn't have destroyed all its nukes (the 3rd largest stock in the world then).
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March 15, 2022, 10:22:16 PM |
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The new world order that is presented in this 21st century undoubtedly has a trigger that is related to the ability to harm each other without launching a single missile, or let's say that the traditional war, we have been in a third unconventional world war for quite some time already.
These countries involved, those called to start World War III, are giving "stick" from different flanks, there is the so-called asymmetric war that is a part of the whole that has been overwhelming us in this 21st century, there is no transformation of thought in these politicians, some of them with considerable experience in situations of conflict in the 20th century.
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March 15, 2022, 11:36:08 PM |
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The news of a new World War has been heavily exaggerated.
Most of the cases on the OP are long solved or dried out.
Anyone looking for a real danger of World War should study the Cuban Missiles situation on 1961.
Nuclear weapons are a terrible, but efficient, guaranty of world peace.
Unfortunately, the Cuban Missile Crisis shows that they are not infallible. War was avoided by lucky chance.
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DVlog (OP)
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March 21, 2022, 01:55:15 AM |
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I wonder if the invasion and annexation of Crimea played a part in the Ukrainian attempt to join the NATO. I know, it further triggered Russia but it seems to be an act of desperation. No matter, Zelensky overestimated Ukraine's importance to NATO, which pretty much didn't showed up to help them.
Crimea was annexed because of its natural resource in its basin. Also, it's one of the few seaports in the EU that don't freeze in times of winter. That means it's still operational for trade and other military activity. Crimea was important for Russia for economic purposes. But that doesn't give the Ukraine to join NATO right now. They should have taken more time and built their army with western weapons. Zelensky is shortsighted that's why he failed to anticipate NATO will not join a war against a nuclear-powered country. And so I heard. Apparently most of Ukrainian oil/gas deposits are in the Donbas region and on the Black Sea within Crimea's EEZ. Also to add that Ukraine is one of the chokepoint for any invading force into Russia so it was thought of as Russia's gateway. As for whether Ukraine has time to build up a defense first before deciding to express determination to join NATO, I think they're really racing against time to try to recover the eastern territories, the same areas Russia is now forcing them to recognize as independent. Ukraine shouldn't have destroyed all its nukes (the 3rd largest stock in the world then). The great flat plain of Ukraine and Russia doesn't have any natural barriers like mountains and big rivers so yes it is a chokepoint in case of any invading force. Ukrainian should have listened to Russia's warning and first build up their economy and defense before rushing into joining NATO. Joining the EU rather than NATO could change their economy. The lost area could be recovered later if you have a well-equipped military and a strong economy to support it. Ukraine hasn't destroyed their nukes they just hand them over to Russia in 1991 and USA was one of the contributors with Russia to do that. I think that was a good decision for that time because for a newly independent country it could be really hard to keep highly classified technology from trafficking. Just think where poor North Korea got their missile technology who doesn't have money or mind to spent for this type of research.
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March 21, 2022, 02:48:06 PM |
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With the level of human development the world has currently gotten to I barely see a ww3. For almost every country world over are trying their very best to protect their level of development and won't just jump into another man's war just as we are seeing in the case between Russia and Ukraine where NATO and even the EU countries are careful with their actions and extent of involvement into the war.
Looking at the kind of destructive technological weapons many countries possesses, a ww3 will only bring an almost end to the human race.
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KingScorpio
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March 21, 2022, 08:59:34 PM |
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The war started long ago when the US couldn't overthrow Syria's leader Bashar Assad. Nobody sanctioned the US for invading Syria btw. What was the reason for this invasion again? Because Assad didn't cooperate with the US on their pipe line deal. Process this for a minute.
The US failed in Syria and then Afghanistan. Lost Syria to Russia, left their ammo and civilians in Afghanistan. Russia and China ain't blind. They have seen those major fuck ups.
*Forgot Crimea. Obama just watched it while Putin took Crimea like taking candy from a baby's hand.
the reason for the syria war is that the US democrats think they are god's chosen ones who are allowed to destroy countries all over the world and enslave the people their to their newly founded central banks, they don't do crypto ICO's they give weapons to marginalised groups and promote crime there in order to take the country over.# the US is responsible for all this, ditch the US dollar.
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