YOSHIE with alternative account,account ban

[Choose.username]

https://archive.md/VMeTX

Hello @Shasan, I plan to borrow again.
Loan Amount: 1.5 eth
Loan Purpose: personal
Loan Repay Amount: 1.7 eth
Loan Repay Date: 23 Februari 2020
Type of Collateral: -
Escrow profile Link: -
Ethereum Address: 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411
Greetings, yoshie
Thank you.

YOSHIE =  0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411
&  0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
Aury234 =  0xc8437C57216D8c355Da313387dd4b9144B5db6C3
&  0x01eF0cb5a7fd0ac9045e42B479FD994e1Ccd804E
Bubrang =   0xc8437C57216D8c355Da313387dd4b9144B5db6C3
Lumi3004 =   0xaB98af20117AEa430a2243346e64eFF83A7cc156
Frengki_cisco = 0x02adad13164d63a58f4184a24e579dfd9a3ef146

https://ibb.co/Jr2wxmC
From: 0x8be4545257d36506cb3ce94e6d3feb2f0e07e411 - To: 0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e  (0.112 Ether)
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xddcce7484adc2ed52e2e0e1554b0162d9425bc533941e37f18324cf1a0f4d0f9

https://etherscan.io/address/0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411
Wallet Adress YOSHIE has transaction history with address: Aury234 Bubrang Lumi3004
https://ibb.co/5TWqGjS
https://ibb.co/ZKks44d
https://ibb.co/hL5WNpB

1. From:
0xc8437c57216d8c355da313387dd4b9144b5db6c3
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.055 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xee2ec61d8ca2fb8c5adb7d55249f903ec41be6bf4d5192fca451b45858201c1b

2. From:
0xab98af20117aea430a2243346e64eff83a7cc156
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.0076 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdd99770de86481b424831e481086e4e633f3be746d32958a261efe16a7da2c92

3. From:
0x01ef0cb5a7fd0ac9045e42b479fd994e1ccd804e
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.0458 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc294200d88373b80936428678a9ca4680d26881310d87d6bd9799072ad9a5a8a

4. From:
0xc8437c57216d8c355da313387dd4b9144b5db6c3
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.046 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x79a78bde74a818f742b9386851eadd026281c6e3e4ac80e116f02a306637c042

5. From:
0x01ef0cb5a7fd0ac9045e42b479fd994e1ccd804e
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.024 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xfdc6ef76d6a1c636047f99d7e2902d5e0d65b55e1d7c9b3faaad3870d5bcdf41

6. From:
0xc8437c57216d8c355da313387dd4b9144b5db6c3
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.1559 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x5bc1042aaddc5c79ccfa1dbc5a2d8516821697fc9766b3cd2e96a596a28efadc

7. From:
0x73ca519e4f4a53a2a602109d91928dc53d9d0af9
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.0648 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x86d9f43a56eed7608b20373d6943f03253e9839f942f9aba18130b39de6e4f8e

8. From:
0xc8437c57216d8c355da313387dd4b9144b5db6c3
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.1489 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xf158f7dd625c94fde1b626cab7a07fb6de4a27e9da93f64ca22d29d151ecac6f

9. From:
0xcb79d4b2ce8bc51689f6859e4b2dc036ef6acb30
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.08 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xa6557eacecea87d0253ba96d73310afe21e39181ba9611ccb4c0d44e9af9cf71

10. From:
0xcb79d4b2ce8bc51689f6859e4b2dc036ef6acb30
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.045 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1790e9a51104dd6451a0fcb7b0076186f15c0194e0665b31f1d783a343906e45

11. From:
0xab98af20117aea430a2243346e64eff83a7cc156
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.0653 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x3cda37e6845517c8b6f1517b12e2fe4ce6a3603887cdf33f31eff0a0044dc5c4

12. From:
0x8be4545257d36506cb3ce94e6d3feb2f0e07e411
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.112 Ether
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xddcce7484adc2ed52e2e0e1554b0162d9425bc533941e37f18324cf1a0f4d0f9

next
1. Aury234
2. Bubrang

https://ibb.co/Z69dNYj

Twitter username :@Aury54485412
Twitter Url : https://twitter.com/Aury54485412
ETH address :0xc8437C57216D8c355Da313387dd4b9144B5db6C3

https://ninjastic.space/post/31671743

#Proof of ownership :
 - @Bubrang3
 - eth address: 0xc8437C57216D8c355Da313387dd4b9144B5db6C3

https://ninjastic.space/post/34954910

3. Lumi3004
https://ibb.co/Wngd5GM
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=0xaB98af20117AEa430a2243346e64eFF83A7cc156

#JOINED AIRDROP
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Lumi3004
Telegram: @Lumi3004
ETH : 0xaB98af20117AEa430a2243346e64eFF83A7cc156

https://ninjastic.space/post/40130304


YOSHIE  =   0x1ad384a487c78d4bc30bcd7912ee2c12b983bed5 & 0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
Frengki_cisco =   0x02adad13164d63a58f4184a24e579dfd9a3ef146

https://ibb.co/fN5qYYV
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/156Cd5_pi56h_azOW5yRCsnwGGJB7AANWNY3cAwSlUdk/edit#gid=1502287664

this time the transaction on the BEP-20 network

https://ibb.co/BKJkTyk
https://bscscan.com/address/0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e

1. From:
0x1ad384a487c78d4bc30bcd7912ee2c12b983bed5
To:
0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e
0.15 BNB
https://ibb.co/4gr7BXV
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xe2da91132b3383bcb3ca09f9998474d603ea630cb7b5e8443358e0a00cf002f9

2. 0x1ad384a487c78d4bc30bcd7912ee2c12b983bed5
https://ibb.co/VptDV4t
1,666 (MYNE)
200 (BSC-USD)
https://bscscan.com/address/0x1ad384a487c78d4bc30bcd7912ee2c12b983bed5#tokentxns

3. From:
0x1ad384a487c78d4bc30bcd7912ee2c12b983bed5
To:
0x02adad13164d63a58f4184a24e579dfd9a3ef146
0.471 BNB
https://bscscan.com/address/0x02adad13164d63a58f4184a24e579dfd9a3ef146

Bitcointalk username: Frengki_cisco
Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2689745
Rank: Member
Current Post count: 284
ETH (BEP20 - BSC - Binance Smart chain) address: 0x02adad13164d63a58f4184a24e579dfd9a3ef146

https://ninjastic.space/post/57158935



i know that YOSHIE is a valuable forum asset with its expertise in uncovering alternative account spammers and scammers and helping to keep forums clean but i want to know what you think after seeing this trail.

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[1714129377]

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[AB de Royse777]

i know that YOSHIE is a valuable forum asset with its expertise in uncovering alternative account spammers and scammers and helping to keep forums clean but i want to know what you think after seeing this trail.

Having alternative account in this forum is completely approved by the admin and the community. But there are some rules like:
- You can not join in the same campaign using your alternative account.

Do you think in this case something like this happened? If not then it's perfectly fine. Besides two or more forum user can exchange their coins or tokens with each others just like we trade with each others but that will not make them alt of each others.

[Choose.username]

i know that YOSHIE is a valuable forum asset with its expertise in uncovering alternative account spammers and scammers and helping to keep forums clean but i want to know what you think after seeing this trail.

Having alternative account in this forum is completely approved by the admin and the community. But there are some rules like:
- You can not join in the same campaign using your alternative account.

Do you think in this case something like this happened? If not then it's perfectly fine. Besides two or more forum user can exchange their coins or tokens with each others just like we trade with each others but that will not make them alt of each others.

i understand that but what about account ban, isn't ban evasion (using or creating an account when one of your accounts is blocked) not allowed?

Lumi3004 is a ban account = https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Lumi3004

Aury234 is another linked account = https://archive.fo/wsh1s#selection-11187.0-11187.18

besides that YOSHIE also often investigates based on transaction history. So what's the difference in this case?

[AB de Royse777]

besides that YOSHIE also often investigates based on transaction history. So what's the difference in this case?

It's personal opinion to be frank with you.
I never took accounts that are connected by address too seriously. I do not think I have looked seriously many reputation created by YOSHIE and others just based on account transaction. If that is what approved by them and if other users agreed with his finding then they will agree here too. Let's wait for others what they say.

i understand that but what about account ban, isn't ban evasion (using or creating an account when one of your accounts is blocked) not allowed?

If accounts are connected based on coin transaction and if any of those accounts are banned then I am afraid that will effect YOSHIE account too. But first others will need to agree that YOSHIE and those accounts are indeed connected.

[Timelord2067]

OP:  Your post is very hard to read through - can you walk me through what your findings and conclusions are, please?

[Choose.username]

OP:  Your post is very hard to read through - can you walk me through what your findings and conclusions are, please?

YOSHIE has multiple Wallet address.

1. Borrow Wallet = 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411

2. Transactions on main Wallet = 0xCDA396d6e5B49F813BCCc356EB48Bc2de92CA56E

2. Wallet on spreadsheet = 0x1Ad384a487C78D4BC30bcd7912EE2c12b983bEd5 (BEP-20)

Later, one of YOSHIE wallet address connected with : Aury234 -Bubrang-Lumi3004 wallet and one of them was banned [Lumi3004]

Aury234 - tagged by marlboroza

[Rikafip]

OP:  Your post is very hard to read through - can you walk me through what your findings and conclusions are, please?

From what I understood, he doesn't have the clear connection between YOSHIE's address 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411 that he used for loan, but he connected him to all these other accounts via 0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e address which YOSHIE never used, but those 2 addresses had one transaction ~3 years ago (https://etherscan.io/tx/0xddcce7484adc2ed52e2e0e1554b0162d9425bc533941e37f18324cf1a0f4d0f9).

Now whether that's proof good enough is another question.

[Choose.username]

OP:  Your post is very hard to read through - can you walk me through what your findings and conclusions are, please?

From what I understood, he doesn't have the clear connection between YOSHIE's address 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411 that he used for loan, but he connected him to all these other accounts via 0xcda396d6e5b49f813bccc356eb48bc2de92ca56e address which YOSHIE never used, but those 2 addresses had one transaction ~3 years ago (https://etherscan.io/tx/0xddcce7484adc2ed52e2e0e1554b0162d9425bc533941e37f18324cf1a0f4d0f9).

Now whether that's proof good enough is another question.

example

Joined the same campaign

#Proof of ownership :
 - @Lumi304
 - eth address: 0xaB98af20117AEa430a2243346e64eFF83A7cc156

#Proof of ownership :
 - @Bubrang3
 - eth address: 0xc8437C57216D8c355Da313387dd4b9144B5db6C3

example
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg59203598#msg59203598

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383519.msg59129533#msg59129533

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383519.msg59117404#msg59117404

claim based on wallet transaction
If he can judge and claim that sending a number of coins to one address or assume that they are owned by the same person then I can also claim that YOSHIE is connected to several other accounts based on transactions on wallet addresses that happen to be connected to one of the Accounts that have been exposed by marlboroza.

[YOSHIE]

In this case you have to involve the indodax exchange, to solve, I once used the indodax party's address, for some transactions.
Indodax address.


Tx: https://ethblockexplorer.org/address/0xCDA396d6e5B49F813BCCc356EB48Bc2de92CA56E?page=3

Tx: https://bscxplorer.com/address/0x1ac1dC3B683DB3d43c67C70813Dba78BC9bd3074

If you look again at the two addresses above, you can connect transactions to international, all Indonesian members who use the indodax exchange, connect.

I don't know how they distribute or receive coins, what is clear is that Indodax exchange is only for converting to Rupiah.

If you tell me the address used by your alleged account, You can find more here below.

Tx: https://etherscan.io/address/0xc8437c57216d8c355da313387dd4b9144b5db6c3

Tx: https://etherscan.io/address/0x01ef0cb5a7fd0ac9045e42b479fd994e1ccd804e

Tx: https://etherscan.io/address/0xab98af20117aea430a2243346e64eff83a7cc156

And also transactions that have been carried out by them, based on the belief in what you accuse.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1708670


Indeed, I've had a lot of attacks lately from multiple Alt accounts on this forum, but that's okay, but it doesn't matter, it's your right to link how and by what means, to accuse me.

[Choose.username]

In this case you have to involve the indodax exchange, to solve, I once used the indodax party's address, for some transactions.
Indodax address.
https://zizihub.com/090a33.jpg

Tx: https://ethblockexplorer.org/address/0xCDA396d6e5B49F813BCCc356EB48Bc2de92CA56E?page=3

Tx: https://bscxplorer.com/address/0x1ac1dC3B683DB3d43c67C70813Dba78BC9bd3074

If you look again at the two addresses above, you can connect transactions to international, all Indonesian members who use the indodax exchange, connect.

I don't know how they distribute or receive coins, what is clear is that Indodax exchange is only for converting to Rupiah.

If you tell me the address used by your alleged account, You can find more here below.

Tx: https://etherscan.io/address/0xc8437c57216d8c355da313387dd4b9144b5db6c3

Tx: https://etherscan.io/address/0x01ef0cb5a7fd0ac9045e42b479fd994e1ccd804e

Tx: https://etherscan.io/address/0xab98af20117aea430a2243346e64eff83a7cc156

And also transactions that have been carried out by them, based on the belief in what you accuse.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1708670


Indeed, I've had a lot of attacks lately from multiple Alt accounts on this forum, but that's okay, but it doesn't matter, it's your right to link how and by what means, to accuse me.

No, I don't find any point in your statement. based on the data I found and also from what you said It is very illogical when you make transactions with several different wallets and it happens that the wallets are linked to the account used to join the bounty campaign.

one more thing, the 12 transaction histories I found were very clear and connected with the wallet you used for the loan and conected to the wallet you used in the spreadsheet table.



(If you look again at the two addresses above, you can connect transactions to international, all Indonesian members who use the indodax exchange, connect.)

Are you willing to submit evidence of such a conversation as your belief?
if it is true then it will be absolute evidence even though it comes from a second party indodax, your brothers and sisters, your relatives, or even your spouse who coincidentally transacts with you and accidentally the transaction involves the wallet address used to join the bounty campaign.

[YOSHIE]

one more thing, the 12 transaction histories I found were very clear and connected with the wallet you used for the loan and conected to the wallet you used in the spreadsheet table.

Note: the loan address I gave to @Shasan, at that time the address was hacked, when I asked for a loan, the address was hacked until now I don't know about that address anymore.

Ethereum Address: 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411

After i investigated the address it linked here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2363935;page=sent;offset=550, I tagged them, even though I'm no longer able to get to that address.

@Shasan, well aware of what was going on back then.

Because @Shasan has Archive, he has sent the loan, so I don't delete it and leave it there.

So if you associate me with this address: 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411, I've confirmed that it's the hacker's address, obviously I can't access it anymore, I've never used that address, after I registered in my wallet, it was immediately hacked, it was the bleakest time as long as I used my wallet address.

So whatever happens to that address, I don't care and don't want to know anymore, what the hacker did, it's the unlucky address I've ever accessed.

[_BlackStar]

-snip-

YOSHIE, I don't know what your problem was in the past even though the day you explained your problem to resolve or dispute the accusation leveled against you. I don't think this accusation will affect you as someone who is highly trusted on the forum because of the weak evidence presented and poor presentation.

I just want you to confirm, are all the accounts mentioned by the OP are yours or not? If that's not your account I don't think you need to say much more about this allegation unless some other cheat hunter starts joining in and accusing about the same issue for this case.

[Choose.username]

one more thing, the 12 transaction histories I found were very clear and connected with the wallet you used for the loan and conected to the wallet you used in the spreadsheet table.

Note: the loan address I gave to @Shasan, at that time the address was hacked, when I asked for a loan, the address was hacked until now I don't know about that address anymore.

Ethereum Address: 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411

After i investigated the address it linked here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2363935;page=sent;offset=550, I tagged them, even though I'm no longer able to get to that address.

@Shasan, well aware of what was going on back then.

Because @Shasan has Archive, he has sent the loan, so I don't delete it and leave it there.

So if you associate me with this address: 0x8BE4545257D36506cB3ce94e6D3feb2f0e07e411, I've confirmed that it's the hacker's address, obviously I can't access it anymore, I've never used that address, after I registered in my wallet, it was immediately hacked, it was the bleakest time as long as I used my wallet address.

So whatever happens to that address, I don't care and don't want to know anymore, what the hacker did, it's the unlucky address I've ever accessed.

okay though I am not completely sure about what you just said hacking incident on loan wallet address.
other than that, I didn't say or include this wallet address: 0x1ac1dC3B683DB3d43c67C70813Dba78BC9bd3074




then, what about this address : 0x1Ad384a487C78D4BC30bcd7912EE2c12b983bEd5

wouldn't my claim be correct [ 0x1Ad384a487C78D4BC30bcd7912EE2c12b983bEd5 ] if the address belongs to you? do you trade with your friends wallet [Frengki_cisco] :  0x02AdAD13164D63a58f4184a24E579Dfd9A3eF146

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xea8cb8b503caa966dbbb9fe830ee0fc09bf23d5b9017c0b49584f14d1d00035a

[YOSHIE]

wouldn't my claim be correct [ 0x1Ad384a487C78D4BC30bcd7912EE2c12b983bEd5 ] if the address belongs to you? do you trade with your friends wallet [Frengki_cisco] :  0x02AdAD13164D63a58f4184a24E579Dfd9A3eF146

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xea8cb8b503caa966dbbb9fe830ee0fc09bf23d5b9017c0b49584f14d1d00035a

ooohh, about user @Frengki_cisco.

@Frengki_cisco, he is a user from india, he is a great user and a great gambler at the same time, I learned a lot from him, about gambling, slots, dice etc, I often help several communities in this forum in several tournament events and competences, not only him many other communities are rewarding me unexpectedly, sometimes I've also told him to place some bets for me, like on the gambling site Roobet.com etc.

What I often do to help @Frengki_cisco is guess the picture in competence site Roobet, I give him a good picture and win, sometimes he also gives me some tips without being asked.

This is not once or twice he tipped for me, you want to see the PM he sent me:
02 December 2021.

YOSHE, a few months ago you have helped me, it impressed me, as I promised, I want to give you a little bonus for that, let me know if you have received it your address.

Or you can PM @Frengki_cisco, just ask in detail how I do with him.

If I point out another user or another Manager, who does the same thing as @Frengki_cisco, there are dozens.

[Choose.username]

wouldn't my claim be correct [ 0x1Ad384a487C78D4BC30bcd7912EE2c12b983bEd5 ] if the address belongs to you? do you trade with your friends wallet [Frengki_cisco] :  0x02AdAD13164D63a58f4184a24E579Dfd9A3eF146

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xea8cb8b503caa966dbbb9fe830ee0fc09bf23d5b9017c0b49584f14d1d00035a

ooohh, about user @Frengki_cisco.

@Frengki_cisco, he is a user from india, he is a great user and a great gambler at the same time, I learned a lot from him, about gambling, slots, dice etc, I often help several communities in this forum in several tournament events and competences, not only him many other communities are rewarding me unexpectedly, sometimes I've also told him to place some bets for me, like on the gambling site Roobet.com etc.

What I often do to help @Frengki_cisco is guess the picture in competence site Roobet, I give him a good picture and win, sometimes he also gives me some tips without being asked.

This is not once or twice he tipped for me, you want to see the PM he sent me:
02 December 2021.

YOSHE, a few months ago you have helped me, it impressed me, as I promised, I want to give you a little bonus for that, let me know if you have received it your address.

Or you can PM @Frengki_cisco, just ask in detail how I do with him.

If I point out another user or another Manager, who does the same thing as @Frengki_cisco, there are dozens.

okay case closed and i will not extend this after hearing your explanation i will archive this thread who knows in the future there will be transactions between relatives or newly married couples