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March 17, 2022, 10:04:05 AM
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If you are not scared, any post soviet country will be a suitable place for $1500/weekly income family. Some of European countries will also do. Btw, we dont know your requests and what do you understand under "live comfortably".

For example I like warm climate, and I like if the country is developed and not relatively poor. I cant see myself living on an island, where you get from one village to another by scooter. All that jungles around.

My travelling experience tell me that eastern Spain suits me. It is warm there mostly, but not killing hot. You can rent a house or big apartments for 1500-2000 EUR/month. There are a lot of things to do there, to visit. People are friendly. Perhaps it will be hard to live comfortably there if you are 5, but 3 persons can make it easily. In addition, it is easy to travel from Spain all around the world. Think about it if you want to move (you are not going to sit there in one place until you retire). I have never been to Philippines (as you have mentioned it), but I expect it will be more complicated to travel from them, compared if travel from France, UK, Spain and etc.

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March 17, 2022, 10:05:53 AM
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That all being said, I doubt there is a place in Africa where a brand new 4 series would cost the same as the average annual wage as it does in the US.
And if that place does exist, then the next thing I do is go there and buy a dozen of them to sell it back home.
Alright, alright, you're taking my words too literally and too seriously.  Forget about the car, and I concur with all the points you made.

Ultimately, I'm looking for a country (or part of a country) where the value of a certain amount of bitcoin has way, waaay more purchasing power in general than it does where I live, which is in the US.  The real estate isn't negotiable, though, because a king and his court must have a castle, and it has to be affordable.  Call girlz and their dirty services can be negotiated easily enough (or so they tell me), plus the cost is much cheaper than land, assuming we don't have a sex addict in the castle.

It really depends on what you imagine 'living like a king' is. There is no modern country on the planet where you don't have ultrawealthy individuals (ultrawealthy from my perspective), so would you be able to be on their level? No. Could you live a decent life just by sig campaigns, yeah, I guess you could, but that's as far as that goes? It's a good addition to your regular income.
When I say "live like a king" I really mean relative to everyone else in the area, because what other meaning could that phrase possibly have?  And I'll add to that the fact that I myself don't require much in the way of physical possessions, nor those things that we do in secret at Foxpup's secret meetings, or social status.  I'm content to live as a reclusive bum, unshaven, unshowered, and overall unkempt.  Hence the basement preference; it's altruism.  The attraction is to move away from the US to a better climate where the USD value of bitcoin can be stretched much further, thereby allowing me to drop out of the soul-crushing workforce and perchance to cohabitate with a few fellow bitcoiners.

Is that completely unclear?  I've been up for about 38 hours.

If you can sacrifice your luxury in life then Bangladesh or India can be affordable with small living costs.
No kidding?  I'm friendly with a few guys who own small stores in my area who are from Bangladesh, and I always ask them about it.  Their accents are very thick and their English isn't great, so it's hard to understand them sometimes, but I enjoy chatting with them.  They've got wicked senses of humor, much like many of the Indians I've met in the US.  I never asked them why they immigrated here--and I probably shouldn't, but I'm curious now.

Naturalization is permitted by the Citizenship Law of Bangladesh.
Yes!

Any adult of good character who is married to a Bangladeshi and residing legally in Bangladesh for a period of five years;
Yes!  I'd have to hit the streets pretty quick.

competent in the Bengali language;
F-f-f-f--ff-f-FUCK!!!!

Afghanistan
Oh hell no.  Dude, I don't even think I could fly to Afghanistan, much less live in my self-styled castle with my fellow Chipmixers with sufficient internet to get the rent paid.  I also don't want to get executed, head-lopped-off style and have it broadcast on some website dedicated to that shit.

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March 17, 2022, 11:00:35 AM
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300 dollars is more than enough for a single family in here, We are from the south and the cost of living is actually affordable for a minimum wage of 6 dollars a day. Can you believe that? 6 dollars is what the common people gets in here and they don't even bother. There a few that are getting paid below that, around 4 dollars a day or lower.

We are a small family that is consisting of 3 members, me my wife and a 2 year old daughter. Also we are nearing baby number 2. My current sigs pays me 40 a week and I did not even spend a quarter of the total payments for three weeks. It is because we can manage to live just spending 3 dollars a day. How would that 300 dollars you are receiving if I am in your shoes. I could buy things that I want. Try a vacation in the Philippines, I recommend you the south were there are many beaches to visit. Palawan is the best , see for your self where that 1200/month leaves you. Please don't look down down us even we are just living a simple life in here.
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March 17, 2022, 11:25:58 AM
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My only suggestion is - don't move to country just because it is cheap to live there. No offense to people who live in such countries, but if you selection is based by affordability of everything around, don't expect quality. Not to mention it will start to break you mentally. You should aim to live in expensive place, live expensive life, earn more. Cheap will become your new normal.

Advice - before making a decision to move, try to live in new country for a month. To live somewhere not in a capital or tourist place. Somewhere were there are more locals. Try to live the life locals have.

English is your native language? Go to Malta. English is their second language. Small island. You can get everywhere within 4-6h car ride. Calm and measured life. But you can always go to Paceville for a party. You can get Malta citizenship for example by leasing a property for 5 years or make donation. Sun, sea and Binance around the corner - what else do you need ? Cheesy

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March 17, 2022, 11:46:49 AM
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My question is whether there's any place on earth where $1500/week could allow five roommates to live very comfortably--perhaps not as boss-like as I described above, but maybe at least the big house and property.

Yes, there are lot of places and i will like to use Africa as a case study. West African countries are known to be a fast developing region in Africa and to be able to sustain an average livelihood of about five family members as i will give a breakdown of the situation in the region first.

In West Africa, it is believed that their economy is above average in stability, their currency is below the standard USD, cost of living is less, there is peace stability, stable power supply, good network access in specific regions, access to luxury life, accessible road and serene environment, moderate weather conditions and absence of natural disasters.

With $1500/weekly earnings one can easily make a good living with 5 people all together in West Africa, the first step is to make a currency conversion of $1500 by the worth of 1$ to their local currency, using Nigeria as an example, $1=#560 and 1500x560=#840,000 per week which is good enough to make a living for a whole complete month in Nigeria together with the 5 household members after feeding and paying house rent, about #300,000 will still be left, base on my living experience there.

Secondly, one can choose to save up for about two months, come to West Africa, convert the $ into their local currency, buy a land, build a house, and furnish the house considering location to accessible network frame and water which are part of essentials to your good living over there as a good network is needed to continue your online forum campaign and water for a good sign of living.

In a nutshell, going by the economy of a region, cost of living, their currency value to USD, one can easily make a plan to live comfortably with such earnings from a signature campaign. Lastly, another consideration is in the ability of the person being able to know how to manage things, set priority and ability to maximize effective use of resources.
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March 17, 2022, 11:56:52 AM
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Don't take the signature campaigns as a main income. This is should be just a bonus for the time and effort spent on the forum but turning it into your main income, there are too many negative effects.
First, spamming the forum because of the fulfilling of the minimum requirements often are quite high and if you have nothing to add to the conversation, you just post low effort posts and turn yourself to a spammer.

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amazing... and to think I have denied every signature campaign that I have been asked to participate in. lol

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March 17, 2022, 05:40:07 PM
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If you can sacrifice your luxury in life then Bangladesh or India can be affordable with small living costs.
No kidding?  I'm friendly with a few guys who own small stores in my area who are from Bangladesh, and I always ask them about it.  Their accents are very thick and their English isn't great, so it's hard to understand them sometimes, but I enjoy chatting with them.  They've got wicked senses of humor, much like many of the Indians I've met in the US.  I never asked them why they immigrated here--and I probably shouldn't, but I'm curious now.


Bangladesh is a developing country. Monthly income here is way less than in most of the western countries. So many people go out of the country who seek luxury and a western lifestyle. It's very common here and a large quantity of Bangladeshi who are immigrants in the west are students or political refugees. As long as you are not doing something against the current govt you have nothing to worry about. For being a developing country political instability is common here too. But I can assure you most of the Bangladeshi people are very hospitable towards foreigners and treat them as a guest.

If you ever come to Bangladesh be my guest.

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March 17, 2022, 05:52:37 PM
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I'm going to reply to this thread with honesty and anyone from my locality can attest to my opinion.
You see, there are some countries that are still living below the international poverty line, my country for example pay a minimum wage of #30,000 which is <= $53 (depending on the $$ rate, I used #570 per dollar) and imagine someone earning $1500 (570*1500 = #855,000) in a week, that's should be enough to feed you and your family and save some for rainy days unless you are the type that loves extravagant life, but trust me, you are 4 times better than some running for jobs slots in big firms. In fact, let me burst your bubbles, that's the salary of some master holders in some big firms.

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The average monthly wage for some regions in africa is $40 a month. There are regions in the world with far lower average cost of living, in contrast to developed nations like the united states.

Earning revenue via internet has encouraged many to migrate to nations with lower average expenses. Essentially they're become known as digital nomads.

There are places in the world which offer free land to anyone willing to move there who can cover their basic costs. Parcels of land which might normally be worth thousands in a good location can be had for nothing. Of course there is a catch to it. It is usually in a ghost town or area which would not be appealing to most. Although I would guess there could be a few who could take this type of opportunity coupled with income from a sig campaign and turn it into a goldmine.

But I guess the only way to truly live like a king would be to slowly exchange sig campaign earnings for assets which will greatly appreciate in value. Or for equipment which might be used to start a business that generates revenue.

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Living with 5 roommates is the opposite of living like a king. People need personal space, even if they live in a large house. So instead if you think about $300/week and living alone, there's a ton of countries in the world, basically any developing country, that would allow to do that due to cheap rent, bills, groceries. But it's also a question of compromises. If you mostly sit at home, you'd better live in some small and distant city, rather than the country's capital. If you like to communicate with people, you should look for a country with compatible culture and social values. Some people just can't live in a climate that it is too hot or too cold.

Everyone has different understanding of what "living like a king" means. But in countries where most people earn $100 to $400 per month, earning $300/week would certainly make you more comfortable than the local population. Just keep in mind that a lot of the luxury stuff, like electronics or cars, will still cost as much as it costs in the West, or even much more in certain cases.

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My question is whether there's any place on earth where $1500/week could allow five roommates to live very comfortably--perhaps not as boss-like as I described above, but maybe at least the big house and property.
There are places in the world where life could be really cheap and one could build a haven put of the little plunder from campaigns here in the forum. I won't point to any nation in particular but, if I were to make an analysis based on my nation Nigeria, when we talk about living an average lifestyle, its possible.

Nigeria is a rich nation and like every other Africans, we believe very much in spending money and living out the good just to ensure we pay less attention to our government. The average Nigeria would like to spend most of his or her money on food, drinks, cloths and entertainment in the likes of musics/concerts, a few cars and maybe a good home. Not a Palace or castle per say but, just a normal bungalow with at least 3 bedrooms. Lest say, you have all these covered @House and Cars. Looking at the daily lifestyle of a Nigerian, earning a much as $1500/W, your daily spendable analysis would be some worth as these;

One commodity that is sure to such up your finances is the cost of petrol and that comes into play when your not living in a government residential area.

Petrol cost as much as #200 = $0.37 per litre and as such, 40litres should be enough to fuel your electrical generator and maybe your car for a day which could amount to $15.

On food, Kilimajaro is one of the best restaurants and brands around. An average meal, let's say a plat of rice and chicken, with salad and a litre of yoghurt would cost about, #4000 = $7.12. This could be relative to cover for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Hence, your more likely to spend $21.36 on food daily.

Looking at cloths, it varies depending on what you want and as a classic man with style. I can estimate on this but, it could plunder a lot into your earnings and cloths isn't something you buy everyday.
Although, you could do your laundry as low as #500 = $0.98 per clothen article.

Drinks are variable and largely based on brands. Wines and most of the bar drinks are imported and as such, the price is relative except with a slight increase. Let's say, a 10-20% increase.

I can't accurately give a complete stats on this but, life could be fair for a campaign participant earning as much as $1500/W. One thing that makes life for an average Nigerian is trying to live upto the life's of the celebrities and billionaires around, trying to go with the trend but, setting that aside, you could live okay.
The minimum wage is barely #30,000 = $52.35 and that's on a monthly bases. It's really challenging for the few living on that but on a ground scale of $1500/W, your sure to live okay and like a King of your own domain.

<and how does one go about getting citizenship?>
Mainly, the part to getting a Nigerian citizenship is by having blood ties to a Nigerian and possibly marriage but other means could be found here : https://ecitibiz.interior.gov.ng/citizenship/requirements.

For what is worth, life isn't that easy in Nigeria but with a constant source of income and depending on how weighty it is, Nigeria becomes a very enjoyable country.

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Living with 5 roommates is the opposite of living like a king.

This is family we are talking about, possibly your siblings but either of the way, some people derived pleasure when living together with others and i can bet you it derives more benefit than living alone i can't just start with the mentions. I also understand that whatsoever thing nature blesses you with is not meant for you alone but to be enjoyed with people around you while in doing so you're obeying the law of giving and practicing the act of humanity in showing love with brotherhood.

So I'd love to know how far campaign earnings ($1500 per week for 5 people in my example) could be stretched.  Are there actually places out there where one could not only survive but thrive by earning bitcoin on the forum?

There are countries around the Asia continent like  India where one can live comfortably without the fear of nothing, the campaign earnings will be satisfactorily enough to sustain and maintain a comfort living for the family, and one other consideration is the acceptability of cryptocurrency activities in such region and India could be a good idea to showcase your cryptocurrency acquired skills in the region like opening a location for bitcoin/cryptocurrency trading centre, creating an exchange, teachings cryptocurrency tutorials, and other digital entrepreneurial skills to the people which does not hinders your chipmixer campaign obligations and this solely rely on you seeing this is possible which is your mindset created for such approach.

Therefore, base on your ability to adapt to a new environment, your roburstful thinking, and commitment to striving for a better live and change, you can create a good living along with five people since you are the main determinant of this situation.



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March 19, 2022, 08:04:38 AM
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Don't take the signature campaigns as a main income. This is should be just a bonus for the time and effort spent on the forum but turning it into your main income, there are too many negative effects.

Hi mate, do you think The Pharmacist doesn't already know that? I think we all agree with that, he is talking about a hypothetical idea:

I'm asking this question seriously, though I'm going to qualify that by saying that I'm not planning on doing anything like this.  It's just a fantasy of mine...

In his response to my comment, he also talked about supplementing the income from signature campaigns with other sources of income.

First, spamming the forum because of the fulfilling of the minimum requirements often are quite high and if you have nothing to add to the conversation, you just post low effort posts and turn yourself to a spammer.

The Pharmacist is not going to become a shitposter all of a sudden, neither are you and I, no matter how much we have minimum posting requirements in our sig campaign, and in any case, in that hypothetical situation he would have more time to write, as we have been talking about, so I only see sense in your comment if it is directed to lower ranked members who are starting in this.

amazing... and to think I have denied every signature campaign that I have been asked to participate in. lol

Maybe because you only post in the collectibles section? Campaign managers usually want people spreading the posts all over the forum, not just one section.

Going back to the main point of the thread, I think that even though we are talking about a hypothetical situation it is interesting to always have options open, because you never know what can happen in the future. Being able to earn money only with a computer and an internet connection gives you a freedom of options, regardless of the sources of income you have are more or less stable. But having savings, plus 1 or 2 sources of good income gives you a freedom of choice that someone who only has a source of income from a job that requires physical presence does not have.

I have followed the thread and seen some interesting answers, what I was also thinking is that maybe if someone considers doing what The Pharmacist says in 5 years (assuming that there are still well paid campaigns by then) maybe there will be some country that has revealed itself as the best to go to that we do not take into account now. To give an example, if this thread had been written 5 years ago, El Salvador would not have been considered as much of an option as it may be now.

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That tells me that there's something to it, because there's no way father, sons, mom, and whatever grandparents are still alive would be bounty hunting if it weren't at least a little bit lucrative.  So I'd love to know how far campaign earnings ($1500 per week for 5 people in my example) could be stretched.  Are there actually places out there where one could not only survive but thrive by earning bitcoin on the forum?
Thrive, yes. Live that would provide shelter, food, and necessities and maybe more, yes. Depends on each person if they would share equally.
But this thing will just be effective if those 5 people that earns $300 each (per week? am I right?) are all single. Living the life.  Grin
That amount though will not suffice for a man who needs to feed a kid and a wife. I mean the $300. It's way different if you singlehandedly shoulder everything. I've heard stories about that it can in other countries but I doubt it can bring a kid to college.
Edit: Sorry I forgot it's for a week, my mind keeps on telling me it's for a month. I am changing to yes, it will suffice.
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Hello there, The Pharmacist. I am from the Philippines and I can give you an idea of how much the living cost in my area. Then you can decide if that amount can make you live like a king or not.  Wink
I will just use the individual rate on your example and that's $300 per week or $1200 per month. Which is 60k in PHP using 50PHP = $1. That's a manager's monthly salary Manila-based job. (different rates in provinces - lower)
A house that I am paying to own costs - 6000 PHP per month and I will pay it for 30 years. Rent in Manila for a condominium unit may cost more like 10000 - 15000
Electric bill - 3000 PHP AC room only with complete appliances.
Water bill - 500 PHP
Internet line - 2500 PHP - 100-200 mbps
Monthly grocery with 2 kids - 10000 PHP
Daily food - 300 PHP - 30 days - 9000 PHP

That's just 31k PHP for a family to live with good food on the table for a month. Most employee do have a base salary of 10-15k PHP per month and they can still smile every day.
Now, if it's shared, it will cost lesser and if they are all single they can have Saturday Nights even on Tuesday.

(Didn't include medical, insurance, and others as it will be an option discretely.)


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March 19, 2022, 07:58:49 PM
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My question is whether there's any place on earth where $1500/week could allow five roommates to live very comfortably--perhaps not as boss-like as I described above, but maybe at least the big house and property.
Lest say, you have all these covered @House and Cars. Looking at the daily lifestyle of a Nigerian, earning a much as $1500/W, your daily spendable analysis would be some worth as these;

Sticking to this assumption that accomodation and mobility (a car) has been settled, this is economics, and for five persons $1500 could create a comfortable lifestyle if properly utilized. For a country like Nigeria, you can cut down daily cost by purchasing things in bulk calculatedly...This method will still create a comfortable life, and you will live with four other persons (5 persons total) comfortably.


One commodity that is sure to such up your finances is the cost of petrol and that comes into play when your not living in a government residential area.

Petrol cost as much as #200 = $0.37 per litre and as such, 40litres should be enough to fuel your electrical generator and maybe your car for a day which could amount to $15.
To cut cost, you can seek alternative renewable means of power like solar to support the petrol use, so you reduce the time you run your generator.


On food, Kilimajaro is one of the best restaurants and brands around. An average meal, let's say a plat of rice and chicken, with salad and a litre of yoghurt would cost about, #4000 = $7.12. This could be relative to cover for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Hence, your more likely to spend $21.36 on food daily.
Get food stuffs in bulk, you will notice that you will spend less in a long run compared to spending daily.

Looking at cloths, it varies depending on what you want and as a classic man with style. I can estimate on this but, it could plunder a lot into your earnings and cloths isn't something you buy everyday.
Although, you could do your laundry as low as #500 = $0.98 per clothes article.
Don't just buy clothes for no reason, buy clothes for particular occasions... so you don't buy unnecessary things you don't need. if you have less clothes that are important, you will have less clothes to launder.

To be a king doesn't always mean that you should spend extravagantly.

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If you are not scared, any post soviet country will be a suitable place for $1500/weekly income family. Some of European countries will also do. Btw, we dont know your requests and what do you understand under "live comfortably".

For example I like warm climate, and I like if the country is developed and not relatively poor. I cant see myself living on an island, where you get from one village to another by scooter. All that jungles around.

My travelling experience tell me that eastern Spain suits me. It is warm there mostly, but not killing hot. You can rent a house or big apartments for 1500-2000 EUR/month. There are a lot of things to do there, to visit. People are friendly. Perhaps it will be hard to live comfortably there if you are 5, but 3 persons can make it easily. In addition, it is easy to travel from Spain all around the world. Think about it if you want to move (you are not going to sit there in one place until you retire). I have never been to Philippines (as you have mentioned it), but I expect it will be more complicated to travel from them, compared if travel from France, UK, Spain and etc.

I think i can do it from my Country Bangladesh cz in this country you can rent a expensive house in just 300-400$ also living cost also will luxury if you cost more 500-600$ per month there is lots of luxury people who live happily more than low cost in this country just you need to know that how to live happily then you will understand how people live happyly in just low cost!!

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There is lots of country you can live like a king in this expenses you always know about that rather than live like a king in others country live like a simply happy Bird in own country is most satisfied thing in this world. Also like happily with family in your own country is the best thing of the world!!
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Dude $1500/month is insane, here in India people work $3-$6 wage jobs and so called bank jobs which many here consider luxury, pay 20k rs/month (~$250) - when you start it is even lower. I think first word country people need to travel a bit and realize how cheap living could be.

You could live in 3rd world posh area and have same standard of living as your home yet the cost would be much less.

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