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May 28, 2022, 07:20:24 AM
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Yes I think that is possible. The world is full of cheap places, the question is are you willing to live there. You calculated 1500 USD per month for 5 guys, I think the budget could be a little higher. It should be possible to make 100 USD each per week with crypto currencies and little effort. For 5 guys that would be 2000 USD per month. In South or Central America you can get very cheap housing, there are apartments in the middle of nowhere you could get for 400 USD per month. Problem is security and language issues, and there is nothing around to do really. Also the quality of living will be poor. For food for 5 guys I would probably expect to spend 30 USD per day, 900 per month. That would leave 700 USD for other costs, like Internet, maybe a car, insurances, repair and maintenance.
Maybe in South East Asia on some small islands there are even cheaper places to live. For me it wouldn't be nice to stay in a bad apartment. There are alternatives however, if you have some capital you could consider buying a boat instead. 5 guys could easily live on a small boat together for 2,000 USD. You just get satellite Internet and you can travel the world and are not bound to any location. This would also help with taxes as you won't be resident of any country. Living space will be smaller than any apartment, but you can take a swim whenever you want. And it feels like being the king of the ocean  Grin
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May 28, 2022, 08:10:20 AM
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was a member of Chipmixer for a long time, but they suddenly decided to swap me out for someone else. (Just as I got comfortable that I was part of the best paying signature campaign on this forum)

in life nothing is parmanent, while on chipmixer or any other campaign it might be, it is a curious decision to make effective utilization of such an opportunity, atimes we tend to forget about the reality in life, some people have been there before we all find ourselves in our respective campaign and such will continue, that is one of the main reasons this thread was created, to help members position themselves on a better stand with the effective utilization of their campaign earnings to make a better living as I thought though.

when a family of 5 sought to look for a better living standard in an environment that will make life comfortable at it best with the little earnings from signature campaign i think that is an application of wisdom, yet you will leave a good live together with the family members and have opportunities to make something tangible out of the geographical location you finds suitable for a living minding it cost effective.

many lack the ability to manage their resources thinking it will last for live, but when you discover a place that can provide you with all standard of living you could desire for then it is also a wise decision to cease such opportunity to maximize savings and make another alternative means for earnings, this may be in form of an investment, business, property, service rendering, or any other thing one could find suitable enough to run as an alternative means of income, one thing am very sure and accurate about is making a living in a country where the value of their currency is highly far below the standard USD, when such is exchange it will sum up to a huge amount which could be reasonable enough for any plan in place.

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May 28, 2022, 08:29:15 AM
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I'm amazed that $50 can stretch as far as it can for you, because I could easily blow that much in a single day and not even have much to show for it by sundown.  That's how bad it is in the US.  A lot of immigrants come here and think there's gold in the streets, but you really have to work hard to make good money here.
The way I see it (and correct me if I'm wrong since I'm observing from outside) the problem is that your financial system is flawed. Reagan screwed you in the 80's and things only got worse since others piled on. Take the ridiculous taxing system. When a large portion of your paycheck goes to Uncle Sam, you are already screwed before you even begin working.
On top of that the rigged credit based (or better said debt based) economy that you guys have is practically guaranteeing inflation and hardship without any need for external factors such as printing money.

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May 28, 2022, 09:04:09 AM
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There are a lot places that you can live like a king in developed countries, with $1,500/week you might become one of a millionaire on that country. I think you should think the other aspect of the places e.g. facilitation, culture, and the other things that you need to consider to live there. Many developed countries are lack of facilitation, more over they don't have enough clean water to drink mud water or even his own urine to survive.

I'm come from one of developed countries but I wouldn't mention the country, I live where the countries is poor and really hard to survive with our minimum wages. Minimum wages in my country is $100/month, but the foods is really expensive due to high inflation. With my current campaign that pays me $40/week it's already a lot for me and with that I can survive until now. If I didn't found this forum, I don't know how could I live only with my minimum wages.

I have seen so many around me are starving and can't even buy food, they're eat from rubbish or leftover foods. I have helped some people even though I'm also struggling before I joining a signature campaign, but hopefully I can help more since I have more money, even it's not to much.

I hope one day in the future when I become a millionaire, I can give more foods and develop my countries to become more better because I know how it's feel on difficult situation.

What's your timeline for becoming a millionaire?

Generally speaking, if you have around a million dollars in your investment portfolio, then presumably you should be able to draw upon that at about a 4% per year rate (which is $40k per year and $3,333 per month) and to largely be able to continue with that amount of withdrawal in a near perpetual manner (theorist presume 30 years, but I suppose it depends upon how you assess its value and if you really can get your portfolio to earn more income than your withdrawal rate).

Of course, if we are talking about being able to live off of $300 per week, then our numbers are ONLY about 36% of the millionaire amount - which largely should mean that we should be able to generate $300 per week from ONLY $360k of an investment portfolio... presuming a 4% withdrawal rate... and hopefully a way of investing that generates at least more than 4% per year on average.

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May 28, 2022, 09:47:45 AM
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My question is whether there's any place on earth where $1500/week could allow five roommates to live very comfortably-
Nationally, the average cost of living in my country 2022 : $378 (month)
- City where I live now: $270 (month)
- City with the Cheapest Cost of Living: $200 (month)
- City with the Most Expensive Cost of Living: $450 (month)

If calculated with your question $1500/week - then each is equivalent to $300/month. which means it is very possible with five roommates to live very comfortably. Example, if it is used only for 1/person for 1/week = $300 more than enough. My country is quite poor isn't it? yes but I think there are still country that are much poorer than the country where I live.

If I'm not mistaken, I've also said this before when presenting the BTC price at the time ($69k).
which means,I have to work hard for 7 years with an income at the company I work for,to earn money ($69k).

oh yeah i mean this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366161.msg58239094#msg58239094

Besides that, I also have a simple family. which makes me have full responsibility to provide for, provide a decent place and must have savings for the future. if only relying on income from real work will never be enough.

<and how does one go about getting citizenship?>
So, are you really planning to change your nationality? Grin

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May 28, 2022, 12:12:22 PM
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What's your timeline for becoming a millionaire?

Generally speaking, if you have around a million dollars in your investment portfolio, then presumably you should be able to draw upon that at about a 4% per year rate (which is $40k per year and $3,333 per month) and to largely be able to continue with that amount of withdrawal in a near perpetual manner (theorist presume 30 years, but I suppose it depends upon how you assess its value and if you really can get your portfolio to earn more income than your withdrawal rate).

Of course, if we are talking about being able to live off of $300 per week, then our numbers are ONLY about 36% of the millionaire amount - which largely should mean that we should be able to generate $300 per week from ONLY $360k of an investment portfolio... presuming a 4% withdrawal rate... and hopefully a way of investing that generates at least more than 4% per year on average.
I doubt Apocollapse meant being a millionaire in terms of dollars or USD. Being able to earn 1,500 dollars per week will not make anyone a millionaire (dollars) but if you will consider other currency that has much lower value than dollars such as Philippine Pesos. Then, there's a high possibility that you can be a millionaire on your country. Anyway, that is if you only do signature campaign and do not invest or trade.

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May 28, 2022, 07:01:31 PM
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What's your timeline for becoming a millionaire?

Generally speaking, if you have around a million dollars in your investment portfolio, then presumably you should be able to draw upon that at about a 4% per year rate (which is $40k per year and $3,333 per month) and to largely be able to continue with that amount of withdrawal in a near perpetual manner (theorist presume 30 years, but I suppose it depends upon how you assess its value and if you really can get your portfolio to earn more income than your withdrawal rate).

Of course, if we are talking about being able to live off of $300 per week, then our numbers are ONLY about 36% of the millionaire amount - which largely should mean that we should be able to generate $300 per week from ONLY $360k of an investment portfolio... presuming a 4% withdrawal rate... and hopefully a way of investing that generates at least more than 4% per year on average.
I doubt Apocollapse meant being a millionaire in terms of dollars or USD. Being able to earn 1,500 dollars per week will not make anyone a millionaire (dollars) but if you will consider other currency that has much lower value than dollars such as Philippine Pesos. Then, there's a high possibility that you can be a millionaire on your country. Anyway, that is if you only do signature campaign and do not invest or trade.

There are many countries where $1500 is a fine amount to live like a king.
In asian country - if you know the language and you are well of the culture - you can easily find a decent place to live and you can have a good food on the table. In particular if you are an english speaker - you will find a lot of work options as well.

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A better strategy for me.... will be to "hoard" all your earnings from a signature campaign and then relocating to a 3rd world county and depositing the converted cash into a fixed deposit at a high interest rate... and living off that for a few years.  Wink  (Some Banks still give 10%+ interest on fixed deposits of 5years and longer)
I do not know how good of a strategy that is going to be. In as much as it sounds like a good idea, living in a third world country is not as easy as you imagine, i live in one by the way; and over here more than 70% of the population, minus the privileged rich people, would 'kill' to move over to a first world country to start a new life there, need i also remind you that the same privileged rich people every now and then travel to first world countries on vacation, to spend their money, etc, the only reason why many of them would not relocate permanently to a first world country is because they make their money back home.

There are many reasons why you would not want to relocate to a third world country, one is electricity, the power supply is so poor, and in the end you will be spending a huge amount of money on fuel or diesel to power your generator for 24 hours a day. Bad roads, noise and air pollution, insecurity, inflation, poor standard of living etc are other reasons. Taxes and bills are higher in first world countries simply because the standard of living is high, and you are paying for a good life, it is not so in third world countries, taxes and bills aren't as high because the standard of living is low, and if you are going to maintain a good standard of living for yourself there you have to pay so much, you have to literally 'buy' it, but not in the form of tax or necessary bills because the goverment provides nearly nothing, example it is better you provide electricity yourself through your generator than pay light bill for an epileptic power suppy.

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What's your timeline for becoming a millionaire?
A million dollars is really huge amount, I might become the top 10 the most richest person in my country. As been mentioned by @Jemzx00 I mean is becoming a millionaire in my own local, not the whole world especially the developed countries where they got paid thousand or a hundred thousand per week. I think get paid $300/week in my country already enough to become a millionaire or even a billionaire, it's mean a lot for me. Because each week I have to survive with just $25/week only, it may sounds a peanut for you, but if you live in poor countries, you will know it.

I was born from a poor family and come from poor country, but I didn't blame anyone why I born from poor because they're (my parents) will also want to make me happy even with their poorness or lack of many things. I never stop dreaming that I will become a millionaire in the future, of course I have already prepared anything including my degree, certification, and soft skills to find a good jobs will better payrate.

I think 4% per year is already good amount return, banks interest rate doesn't even reach 4% and have any fee or charge lol. I think 2-4 years per year is more realistic and that's why I do diversification, to prevent from losing more even I didn't earn to much. I'm 100% trust in Bitcoin, but I only invest around 50% on Bitcoin, 30% on gold, and 20% on stock.

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May 29, 2022, 07:13:58 AM
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A better strategy for me.... will be to "hoard" all your earnings from a signature campaign and then relocating to a 3rd world county and depositing the converted cash into a fixed deposit at a high interest rate... and living off that for a few years.  Wink  (Some Banks still give 10%+ interest on fixed deposits of 5years and longer)
I do not know how good of a strategy that is going to be. In as much as it sounds like a good idea, living in a third world country is not as easy as you imagine, i live in one by the way; and over here more than 70% of the population, minus the privileged rich people, would 'kill' to move over to a first world country to start a new life there, need i also remind you that the same privileged rich people every now and then travel to first world countries on vacation, to spend their money, etc, the only reason why many of them would not relocate permanently to a first world country is because they make their money back home.

There are many reasons why you would not want to relocate to a third world country, one is electricity, the power supply is so poor, and in the end you will be spending a huge amount of money on fuel or diesel to power your generator for 24 hours a day. Bad roads, noise and air pollution, insecurity, inflation, poor standard of living etc are other reasons. Taxes and bills are higher in first world countries simply because the standard of living is high, and you are paying for a good life, it is not so in third world countries, taxes and bills aren't as high because the standard of living is low, and if you are going to maintain a good standard of living for yourself there you have to pay so much, you have to literally 'buy' it, but not in the form of tax or necessary bills because the goverment provides nearly nothing, example it is better you provide electricity yourself through your generator than pay light bill for an epileptic power suppy.

Yes, I agree with you... but in the scenario that OP created in his thread... he wants to relocate to a country where he can live like a King with the small earnings that he gets from the highest paid signature campaign on this forum.

Now, I work on contract in Africa for a few months in a year... so I know exactly what you are saying about poor infrastructure and shitty electricity.. but you have to adapt...and if you adapt, you can succeed. We operate a fully functioning company in Africa under those circumstances. (Solar power / UPS's / Water purifiers / Driving 4x4's to adapt to the road conditions... etc.)

I think the most negative aspect of this will be the high crime rates / Corrupt government officials / Africa time at which things are done.... but high unemployment help to keep wages lower.... so we can have gardeners and cleaners etc.... that we cannot afford in 1st world countries. These people would not have had an income if we were not there... so we bring employment opportunities to help them support their families.  Wink

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May 29, 2022, 08:56:10 AM
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I think the most negative aspect of this will be the high crime rates / Corrupt government officials / Africa time at which things are done.... but high unemployment help to keep wages lower.... so we can have gardeners and cleaners etc.... that we cannot afford in 1st world countries. These people would not have had an income if we were not there... so we bring employment opportunities to help them support their families.  Wink
To be honest, corrupt government officials are the reason foreign companies flourish and do well in Nigeria. They can easily bribe to bypass environmental laws and the natural order of things. The companies come to Africa because they can make exploit the people, we don’t need them they need us. The salaries they pay their workers are below standard, the workers don’t have proper healthcare. Foreign companies have the freedom than in the United States.

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May 29, 2022, 09:27:11 AM
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I think the most negative aspect of this will be the high crime rates / Corrupt government officials / Africa time at which things are done.... but high unemployment help to keep wages lower.... so we can have gardeners and cleaners etc.... that we cannot afford in 1st world countries. These people would not have had an income if we were not there... so we bring employment opportunities to help them support their families.  Wink
To be honest, corrupt government officials are the reason foreign companies flourish and do well in Nigeria. They can easily bribe to bypass environmental laws and the natural order of things. The companies come to Africa because they can make exploit the people, we don’t need them they need us. The salaries they pay their workers are below standard, the workers don’t have proper healthcare. Foreign companies have the freedom than in the United States.

Apart from the correct government officials, the Nigerian system itself is not complicated. Every law and order was created to be friendly with everyone. Even if they were to pay the necessary fees, it will not be huge compared to what happens in outside countries.
If our leaders could be 50% good compared to their mates outside Africa, Nigerian will be a heaven.

When these foreigners come to Nigerian, they respect every order and laws because at first they aren't rigid. But my fellow country men will find a way to discredit their fellow Nigerians or poison the heart of the foriegn investors.
For instance, there is a Chinese company in my country that sales phones, phones accessories and electronics. I was a branch manager of the company. When this country first came, they rent 3 bed room apartments for their managers, supervisors and maintenance managers. They pay flight tickets for the staff for monthly meetings. But it didn't last long that they changed their minds and stopped providing accommodations, every staff uses bus to go Lagos for monthly meetings which take like 8 - 11hrs. Salaries reduced and yet they are recording more sales.
They were asked to join the system but they are making much more money.

Nigeria is a land of freedom to the best of my knowledge.

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A vast range / vast ideas have been poured in here. Don't forget too do your own checks before you move into any country out there. It's frankly cold out there. Get too know the do's and don't in any country of your choice, Avoid corrupt countries and move too a country with high security, your safety matters alot, still having thoughts on what your daily intake will be. A great wildlife in the African countries, have fun as you make you move and also in other places like Philippines, Sweden and South American. Please be safe.

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May 29, 2022, 02:11:36 PM
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A vast range / vast ideas have been poured in here. Don't forget too do your own checks before you move into any country out there. It's frankly cold out there. Get too know the do's and don't in any country of your choice, Avoid corrupt countries and move too a country with high security, your safety matters alot, still having thoughts on what your daily intake will be. A great wildlife in the African countries, have fun as you make you move and also in other places like Philippines, Sweden and South American. Please be safe.
What did the OP decided? Has he found any place in the world where he can live like a king?
I am eager to know what did he decide? There are a lot of suggestions in this forum and they are really good.

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May 29, 2022, 04:02:47 PM
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What's your timeline for becoming a millionaire?

Generally speaking, if you have around a million dollars in your investment portfolio, then presumably you should be able to draw upon that at about a 4% per year rate (which is $40k per year and $3,333 per month) and to largely be able to continue with that amount of withdrawal in a near perpetual manner (theorist presume 30 years, but I suppose it depends upon how you assess its value and if you really can get your portfolio to earn more income than your withdrawal rate).

Of course, if we are talking about being able to live off of $300 per week, then our numbers are ONLY about 36% of the millionaire amount - which largely should mean that we should be able to generate $300 per week from ONLY $360k of an investment portfolio... presuming a 4% withdrawal rate... and hopefully a way of investing that generates at least more than 4% per year on average.
I doubt Apocollapse meant being a millionaire in terms of dollars or USD. Being able to earn 1,500 dollars per week will not make anyone a millionaire (dollars) but if you will consider other currency that has much lower value than dollars such as Philippine Pesos. Then, there's a high possibility that you can be a millionaire on your country. Anyway, that is if you only do signature campaign and do not invest or trade.

I suppose there is a fair point to be made regarding what is a millionaire in terms of the frame of reference, and also how much money does any person need in their particular country to be able to be assured that they have reached fuck you status - or whatever might happen to be their goal.. to feel some higher degree of financial comfort/security.

For example, frequently we would use the term fuck you status to suggest that there is no longer any need to work for anyone else or even to have to work at all, so in that sense if there continues to be work, then the work remains a lot more optional than having something like a job in which you have to report on a daily basis and rules are largely created by your employer.

The circumstance in which any person is going to measure there financial freedom is going to vary - and of course, in a forum like this we frequently will refer back to the dollar in order to attempt to have some kind of a common reference point.. so in that regard, it is understandable that there might be some difficulties in grasping how many dollars might be needed to live comfortably in some other location, but also if any of us might become dependent on earning money in some other location (rather than just consuming) then we would have to account for those circumstances too... even though surely, it is helpful to attempt to get some kind of comparative reference in regards to how the majority of people in any given country might be living in order to attempt to figure out whether we might try to live there (even if just temporarily).

What's your timeline for becoming a millionaire?
A million dollars is really huge amount, I might become the top 10 the most richest person in my country. As been mentioned by @Jemzx00 I mean is becoming a millionaire in my own local, not the whole world especially the developed countries where they got paid thousand or a hundred thousand per week. I think get paid $300/week in my country already enough to become a millionaire or even a billionaire, it's mean a lot for me. Because each week I have to survive with just $25/week only, it may sounds a peanut for you, but if you live in poor countries, you will know it.

I speculate that you should be able to figure out for yourself how much you need to live, how much you would prefer to have and how you anticipate the future to change (or stay the same) in such a way that you would be able to project what is "millionaire status" for you.

I doubt that it matters very much whether I believe that you are able to live "on peanuts" or not because you are the one that would need to carry out such calculations regarding whether you would like to continue to live within the amount that you are already accustomed to spending or if there might be some plausible way to increase your standard and if that would even be worth it to you to even attempt to increase your standards.

For more than 20 years, I have been using an Excel spreadsheet to project my cashflow, and surely with practice, I have gotten more sophisticated in terms of how I project ahead and to consider how much I might need based on different circumstances that I might face.  Of course, living in western areas tends to be more expensive, but there are pockets of more affordability too.  There is a also a lot of savings that might come in terms of moving to either a low cost location within the same country or going to another country - but at the same time, if there is a lot of moving around, then the expense of travel and relocation should be accounted, too... including the extent to which replacement goods might need to be purchased, so for sure, there can be a lot of savings by not having to replace goods that you already have and are using.

Anyhow, it seems that part of my point would be that you should be able to figure out some ballpark ideas regarding how much you need based on your circumstances, and then to be able to attempt to project out how long it would take to get there (with better case and worser case scenarios contained therein).  I am not even proclaiming that any of the projection matters would be clearly established, but you should be able to get some ideas including attempting to account for changes in the cost of living or even a variety of circumstances that you could end up confronting.. and maybe try to plot out the more likely scenarios first, and then maybe attempt to plot out ways that you might want to improve the projections (if that were to be one of your goals?).

I was born from a poor family and come from poor country, but I didn't blame anyone why I born from poor because they're (my parents) will also want to make me happy even with their poorness or lack of many things.

Nothing wrong with wanting to stay connected with your family.


I never stop dreaming that I will become a millionaire in the future, of course I have already prepared anything including my degree, certification, and soft skills to find a good jobs will better payrate.

Surely, it is good if you are identifying steps that you can take to improve your options and also making on going progress in terms of various actions that you are taking.. and surely, I understand that frequently, there will be less clarity if you are not sure about which kinds of job opportunities that you might end up entering into and if some of those jobs end up helping you to get to another level or if you might end up getting limited in your jobs.. so in some sense, it can be difficult to project when some of the variables are not known.

I think 4% per year is already good amount return, banks interest rate doesn't even reach 4% and have any fee or charge lol. I think 2-4 years per year is more realistic and that's why I do diversification, to prevent from losing more even I didn't earn to much. I'm 100% trust in Bitcoin, but I only invest around 50% on Bitcoin, 30% on gold, and 20% on stock.

Of course 4% is a standard projection that is made, but of course, if you get 20-30 years of investing under your belt, you should be able to better project how much you believe that you will be able to continue to earn.  Bitcoin should be helpful to any long term investment portfolio, and of course there can also be uncertainties in terms of any investment portfolio.. so when you are building your portfolio you would likely be trying to balance out growth and security of your principle.. and when you are in your earlier years of investing, you likely want to emphasize growth, but you still need to be careful not to put too much of your principle at risk .. or at least understand and appreciate the trade offs when taking those kinds of risks.. and you could end up staying poor forever, if you are gambling with your principle all the time - even though I understand that there are also examples of folks who got rich because they put a lot of their principle at risk..

I have never considered putting a lot of principle at risk to be a good investment approach.. and surely people are going to vary in terms of their risk tolerances, too... but they are also going to vary in their other circumstances too, such as access to capital and also skills, abilities and even their age could be a factor in terms of having time to recover if they fuck up.. that is if they are willing to take chances that they might be more able to do when they are younger rather than when they get older if they have never really built anything, then they might not be in a position to continue to take chances, even though some older people think they are too late, so they take risks hoping to make up for their earlier fuck ups.

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<and how does one go about getting citizenship?>
So, are you really planning to change your nationality? Grin
Lol.  At this stage in my life, I'm not sure I'd adapt so well in a foreign country away from friends and family, though I did say I was going to become a Canadian resident if Trump was elected president a few years back (I'd have to search for the post).  Luckily I chickened out and he never did end up starting a nuclear war.  So this thread is more about my fantasy than actual planning for the future.  On the other hand, if I found the right group of people to be my roommates, who knows what could happen?

What did the OP decided? Has he found any place in the world where he can live like a king?
I am eager to know what did he decide? There are a lot of suggestions in this forum and they are really good.
I haven't decided anything thus far and may never--but Zimbabwe is looking pretty damn good unless someone can change my mind.

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May 29, 2022, 09:14:25 PM
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<and how does one go about getting citizenship?>
So, are you really planning to change your nationality? Grin
Lol.  At this stage in my life, I'm not sure I'd adapt so well in a foreign country away from friends and family, though I did say I was going to become a Canadian resident if Trump was elected president a few years back (I'd have to search for the post).  Luckily I chickened out and he never did end up starting a nuclear war.  So this thread is more about my fantasy than actual planning for the future.  On the other hand, if I found the right group of people to be my roommates, who knows what could happen?

What did the OP decided? Has he found any place in the world where he can live like a king?
I am eager to know what did he decide? There are a lot of suggestions in this forum and they are really good.
I haven't decided anything thus far and may never--but Zimbabwe is looking pretty damn good unless someone can change my mind.
so are you really going to move there?
Seems intersting - you seem rich though.But good luck with your search and there are  alot of suggestion and lots of ideas you might be liking them.

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May 30, 2022, 04:11:32 PM
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I think the most negative aspect of this will be the high crime rates / Corrupt government officials / Africa time at which things are done.... but high unemployment help to keep wages lower.... so we can have gardeners and cleaners etc.... that we cannot afford in 1st world countries. These people would not have had an income if we were not there... so we bring employment opportunities to help them support their families.  Wink
To be honest, corrupt government officials are the reason foreign companies flourish and do well in Nigeria. They can easily bribe to bypass environmental laws and the natural order of things. The companies come to Africa because they can make exploit the people, we don’t need them they need us. The salaries they pay their workers are below standard, the workers don’t have proper healthcare. Foreign companies have the freedom than in the United States.
The source of wealth that was drained by migrants carrying heavy equipment then left scars on all the mountains, the land became barren and the residents only got the impact of what is called the government's greed. They include it in the list of state finances without thinking that the impact will be on the communities around which the company stands tall. Old resources are gradually depleting carbon dioxide mixed with chemical fumes.

Natives are considered manual laborers and immigrants as kings. Despite the pretext to advance the economy, if we look at the impact in the next 10 years or even 20 years, we will inhale a plume of chemical fumes that take the lives of small children.

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May 30, 2022, 07:08:37 PM
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I think the most negative aspect of this will be the high crime rates / Corrupt government officials / Africa time at which things are done.... but high unemployment help to keep wages lower.... so we can have gardeners and cleaners etc.... that we cannot afford in 1st world countries. These people would not have had an income if we were not there... so we bring employment opportunities to help them support their families.  Wink
To be honest, corrupt government officials are the reason foreign companies flourish and do well in Nigeria. They can easily bribe to bypass environmental laws and the natural order of things. The companies come to Africa because they can make exploit the people, we don’t need them they need us. The salaries they pay their workers are below standard, the workers don’t have proper healthcare. Foreign companies have the freedom than in the United States.
The source of wealth that was drained by migrants carrying heavy equipment then left scars on all the mountains, the land became barren and the residents only got the impact of what is called the government's greed. They include it in the list of state finances without thinking that the impact will be on the communities around which the company stands tall. Old resources are gradually depleting carbon dioxide mixed with chemical fumes.

Natives are considered manual laborers and immigrants as kings. Despite the pretext to advance the economy, if we look at the impact in the next 10 years or even 20 years, we will inhale a plume of chemical fumes that take the lives of small children.
Gov are mostly corrupt but people find their ways.
Noone like the corrupt people and corrupt yet there are so many way we are helping corrupt gov, if public starts refusing and starts saying no to illegal actions and order. Would the gov be able to make corrupt move? No not at all. So the people need to stand up! Stand up tall!

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May 30, 2022, 11:51:16 PM
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<and how does one go about getting citizenship?>
So, are you really planning to change your nationality? Grin
Lol.  At this stage in my life, I'm not sure I'd adapt so well in a foreign country away from friends and family, though I did say I was going to become a Canadian resident if Trump was elected president a few years back (I'd have to search for the post).  Luckily I chickened out and he never did end up starting a nuclear war.  So this thread is more about my fantasy than actual planning for the future.  On the other hand, if I found the right group of people to be my roommates, who knows what could happen?

Even though you admit that you are NOT quite serious to actually carry out recommendations here, many of the parameters that you set forth do seem to be realistic - except trying to coordinate the pooling of resources through 5 guys.... so in that regard, there would likely need to be one or more of the participants (perhaps yourself) who would be willing to cover the expenses during periods in which you are searching for your 4th and/or 5th guys.. and maybe there could be times in which more of them could end up abandoning.  Even though I have lived in similar kinds of situations (like a group house), I understand that some of the ways for setting it up might be different from my own experiences and/or expectations.

Regarding the citizen status, you might not have to get citizen status.. maybe resident status.. but sure, it is good to explore if there might be some ways to stay in some locations for longer periods of time because the country happens to not have strict limitations or difficulties in acquiring citizenship/residency.

What did the OP decided? Has he found any place in the world where he can live like a king?
I am eager to know what did he decide? There are a lot of suggestions in this forum and they are really good.
I haven't decided anything thus far and may never--but Zimbabwe is looking pretty damn good unless someone can change my mind.

I look forward to hearing about your trip to Zimbabwe.. hahahahaha.. whether in this thread or if you create another one.

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