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March 21, 2022, 04:57:46 PM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

Stimulated reality games are really interesting if you don't have any chance to visit any casinos due to covid and other things as well. This is also a great concept since the VR reality is getting more and more affordable, people use it for games and I think it can very easily be extended to the gambling sites online but to make it is going to be really expensive as well. Forming the whole set would take a while and at the same time there needs to be players and how it would develop as well. I would actually be too excited if something like that would be super common amongst the people. I do think sooner or later it would normal for the companies and whosoever goes first would actually get loads of profits I believe.

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March 21, 2022, 05:08:29 PM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

Stimulated reality games are really interesting if you don't have any chance to visit any casinos due to covid and other things as well. This is also a great concept since the VR reality is getting more and more affordable, people use it for games and I think it can very easily be extended to the gambling sites online but to make it is going to be really expensive as well. Forming the whole set would take a while and at the same time there needs to be players and how it would develop as well. I would actually be too excited if something like that would be super common amongst the people. I do think sooner or later it would normal for the companies and whosoever goes first would actually get loads of profits I believe.
Maybe this can happen, but it won't attract a big community towards it. For gaming needs one will go for set of equipments, but the won't be happening with gambling. Even now we've got more games in which we play against the AI. Everyone finds it to be fair, same as that maybe in the future this gets to be normal.
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March 21, 2022, 05:45:17 PM
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I really like the concept of simulated reality and also the games that are developed with it, however, I am not going to buy a VR goggle set or a gaming console or any of the large and expensive equipment required for it. Why? the answer is very simple: because Virtual Reality is at the very beginning of its journey and technology. Think of it like being the Doom 95 version of being new.

As it currently is, it is not very fun to me. I will wait a decade or so before I get into it. By then I am sure it will have developed further.

I prefer card games anyway. So how much do you need to additionally simulate card games?

Sooner or later, the equipment used for this VR experience will not be much expensive.
As more and more companies will try to manufacture this product or gadget, it will be soon economical for a regular player.
Just look at the expensive gadgets before, and now, you can easily purchase them in cheaper brands.
Give it a year, and the price will go down fast but we are still early on this development.
But in my opinion, it will get a good audience as many people are trying to have home entertainment rather than going outside these days.
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March 21, 2022, 06:59:02 PM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

Not a fan.

Fixing a real match is much harder from a logistical and organisational perspective than fixing a simulated game. Fixing a physical match would require a degree of "acting" - whereas there is no physical difference in a rigged event and a truly random event when it is in simulated reality.

Stick with sportsbetting if you want that live aspect of the games, or just play a provably fair game like blackjack/dice/etc. Even live casinos are better than these things.
Agreed, fixing a match in an important league around the world is not easy at all, as not only you will need to guarantee a result but also it needs to be done without generating any evidence that it happen and for the fans to not get suspicious about it, and that is really hard.

However doing something like this in one of those simulated matches is easy as you only need to deal with one person and they can always argue they had the flu or something like that which reduced their ability to play and in this way make sure they get the results they want.

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March 21, 2022, 07:10:55 PM
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At first when I entered the stake I also without knowing anything I bet on these simulated reality games, and I also recommended my brother to bet on them and of course we lost money, then I started to think that they were video games where they put two players from the real world to play with each other, and think that I was wrong, only today I'm seeing that it was nothing like I thought and something more complex in terms of technology, but I won't bet on that

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March 21, 2022, 07:19:17 PM
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I really like the concept of simulated reality and also the games that are developed with it, however, I am not going to buy a VR goggle set or a gaming console or any of the large and expensive equipment required for it. Why? the answer is very simple: because Virtual Reality is at the very beginning of its journey and technology. Think of it like being the Doom 95 version of being new.

As it currently is, it is not very fun to me. I will wait a decade or so before I get into it. By then I am sure it will have developed further.

I prefer card games anyway. So how much do you need to additionally simulate card games?

Sooner or later, the equipment used for this VR experience will not be much expensive.
As more and more companies will try to manufacture this product or gadget, it will be soon economical for a regular player.
Just look at the expensive gadgets before, and now, you can easily purchase them in cheaper brands.
Give it a year, and the price will go down fast but we are still early on this development.
But in my opinion, it will get a good audience as many people are trying to have home entertainment rather than going outside these days.
Its anticipated but it would be still on that definite schedule on when it would happen because we are seeing that this trend isnt really that moving fast in terms of technology and its application.
As for betting on simulated reality games then i dont think it would really be worth on going big for this one.I do always have bad impressions and mindset about odds on winning
which some people doesnt mind off that thing and do still continue but well its actually on someones preference most of the time.

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March 21, 2022, 07:38:53 PM
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If its a betting platform for simulated reality games, IMO for sure it's very hard to trust because you don't if they are really genuine and there's no cheating in it since it just a simulation games and not base on the real life sports game, so for me it's very skeptical to gamble in such way..
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So these types of games are just made by the operators and providers and there's no connection to the actual games of the sport that they're going to simulate?

I'll just stick to the common games that are not simulated. It's better to watch real matches and fights on live than to see these simulations that can really be manipulated.



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March 21, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
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They're a natural spin off to fantasy sports. Fans always debate GOAT status. Who would win in a fight between prime Muhammad Ali, prime Mike Tyson and prime Tyson Fury. Whether Michael Jordan could beat Lebron James, or Stephen Curry could hit more 3 pointers than Larry Bird or Earvin Magic Johnson.

Another recent movement in gambling is sports pickers being associated with academic institutions like MIT. There are AI based gambling picks being sold on the internet which claim university affiliation.

Combine the two and we could have a simulated reality game genre on our hands. I think its too early to say how this trend will turn out. It will all depend on the implementation and fan interest. Both of which could shift over time. The focus in sports over time, has become more profit centric. People appear to care less about history and sports statistics. There may not be enough sports nostalgia or sentimentality present for simulated games to garner much interest.
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Well, just like provably fair casinos, there must be a way for simulated reality games' developers to prove the AI created by them is independent and not manipulable by any third party interferences. If there isn't anyway to make sure of this, the possibility of being scammed by the house is high, so it's not advised to get engaged with these games.

In the end it is a category of games which rely on luck, similar to the classic and traditional virtual gambling dice, slots, plinko, roulette games, as all of them have their results decided by an AI.

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March 21, 2022, 10:03:06 PM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?
They basically  just set up a private game with bots playing each other,people bet on them because its faster than for say waiting a full 90 min game.

Can they be rigged ? probably not but i personally stay away from them.
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Well, just like provably fair casinos, there must be a way for simulated reality games' developers to prove the AI created by them is independent and not manipulable by any third party interferences. If there isn't anyway to make sure of this, the possibility of being scammed by the house is high, so it's not advised to get engaged with these games.

In the end it is a category of games which rely on luck, similar to the classic and traditional virtual gambling dice, slots, plinko, roulette games, as all of them have their results decided by an AI.
As long there's no way of verifying things out or simply with your bets then people wouldnt really be looking for this one to be interesting since we know that playing on a fair is much more appealing rather than on

dealing with something which is unverifiable thats why losing interest would be common and simply people would be looking for another places which they could see fairness.
So far i dont have experience about these simulated games but on what most people are describing then this is something not that interesting.

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In my opinion, simulations of fighting with a man in uniform will lead to aggression. We need to change uniform education as soon as possible. A man without a uniform is nicer. It is always like that.

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What is a simulated reality games? you mean the virtual sports games? I played that before and got a addicted to it those I am not sure how fair their game was and I am not also sure if those games are fair at all but I win some times and lose sometimes and it came from other providers that the gambling site hires so it was like the table games and other casino games it still depends whether the provider is reputable or not.

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I would either just play live sports betting or provably fair games but not a simulated games since there's no way to prove that those games are not rigged or being manipulated by the provider. So it is better to stay away with those games rather than risking your money to it.

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The simulated reality games which we can found in sports books right? I see that most of the time in Stake.com I am looking for a live match and see this game I didn't know at first that it is simulated I thought it was a real match (too dumb, I didn't read the word "simulated") the team where I placed the bet is winning I believe it 0-2 (after half game) and and place a bet on the winning team and after checking after time passed the game ends with 2-2 and yeah I lost it.

I am not sure if it is manipulated or not but I don't play simulated games after that. I don't even trust it.


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The first time I got to know with sports gambling I was stuck in simulated reality games and placed bet almost 50$ seeing the odds given biggers, but it felt strange when I checked the flashcore site there were no football matches displayed there and realized that it was only simulated reality games. This should not be displayed on sports betting sites because it can be a trap, especially for beginners.

Really the simulation game is really confusing, something not realistic but visualized is really confusing and I think those who play the game are gamble addicts. I have heard gamblers discussing on it but yes checking on betting platforms for results you discover it doesn't involve real-life sports or game.
The final score depending with system want and can't predicting although choose as favorite team, better with simulated reality games move and deleted on several sport betting game because I think if not update with football match many gamble will play on this sport betting game. I don't know what reason should listed and make odds on simulated reality games because is not real and final result score is not depending about how favorite club and position standing place but many time result match always not logic with small team can win from bigger team.

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March 22, 2022, 12:14:00 PM
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Can they be rigged ? probably not but i personally stay away from them.
From what they're saying, it can be. So if the casino itself provides the simulated games, if they've open source for its program then someone can review it thoroughly if it can be rigged or not. But usually with these programs, AFAIK, they're closed source so it's impossible to review.
I think it's fun to try these games until you start losing and you have to stop to avoid further losses and if it's like a virtual reality, do you mind spending for a device to test and see it happen?



 

 

 

 

 

 


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March 22, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
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What is your opinion?

I would not trust such simulations primarily for the following reason. Every match is not dry numbers that Artificial Intelligence can calculate. Each match is a state of health of the players, their physical form, their psychological mood and dozens of other factors that AI simply cannot calculate. Of course, if the teams are not equal in strength, then the AI can give the correct result. However, if the teams are approximately equal in strength, then no AI will be able to predict the result of the match with 100% probability.
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March 22, 2022, 11:10:13 PM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
The games are automated for SRI, so they are not managed according to bets...A gambler may or may not be lucky as regards the team he decides to put his bet on. You may decide team A, and the automation has already picked that team, you become lucky winning, if you however picked team A and the automation is going with B, you loose your money. So IMO, gambling on simulated games is an issue and a case of luck. As a matter of fact, my first gambling experience was on a simulated football game where i won, and the few persons who knew it was my first time termed it "beginners luck" because it was luck indeed. After that experience, i tried a couple of times and have long quit it because it was a series of losses for me the more i tried being intentional winning. In summary i will say that SRI games are randomised options and winning is based on luck.

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