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March 22, 2022, 11:53:47 PM
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These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

I don't think game providers will just throw dirt on their names by rigging those games. It's a game-changing environment and it doesn't mean they are totally non-sense or not worth trying. There's no difference when playing on supposed live casino games.

I will definitely try that. Who else doesn't want it?

But we have to understand that gambling is gambling. The risks of losing money are the same as usual gambling games.

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March 22, 2022, 11:57:27 PM
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These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

I don't think game providers will just throw dirt on their names by rigging those games. It's a game-changing environment and it doesn't mean they are totally non-sense or not worth trying. There's no difference when playing on supposed live casino games.

I will definitely try that. Who else doesn't want it?

But we have to understand that gambling is gambling. The risks of losing money are the same as usual gambling games.

This seems to me to be something for the future as well. Basically it's something everyone wants, it gives a special feeling and special added value when you play something like this. As if you are really in a new world. If you can also do that in combination with gambling, then the possibilities are endless. There are already some games with this concept, but I have the idea that many players are not yet aware of it. You don't hear much about it on channels either.

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March 22, 2022, 11:59:06 PM
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These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

I don't think game providers will just throw dirt on their names by rigging those games. It's a game-changing environment and it doesn't mean they are totally non-sense or not worth trying. There's no difference when playing on supposed live casino games.

I will definitely try that. Who else doesn't want it?

But we have to understand that gambling is gambling. The risks of losing money are the same as usual gambling games.

If there will be rigging, people will come to know about it and this will ruin their reputation. A lot of people now know how to uncover potential cheating or rigging of the game. So they will talk if they will find out especially if they lost huge amount of money. It will always come out in the open. And once someone will publish valid proofs, that will be the end of their business. So if they are heavily invested on the project, I don't think it is in their best interest to rig a game which will be the reason of their downfall.
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March 23, 2022, 01:00:51 AM
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I’m not sure I’m a huge fan of them myself, but apparently this has been a big thing for a online casinos. Here’s some interesting info I found about them ..

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March 23, 2022, 02:39:37 AM
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If the simulated reality games are the same as the virtual reality use well it will bring a new kind of innovation and adaptation to the gambling world imagine having a virtual reality gambling game with other members but with this its not quite sure with the possibles games on it like how about the card game and slot games must be needed to be programmable in the gambling why though not just a casual game still required true money to play with this i guess in the future might be use this.

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March 23, 2022, 04:24:50 AM
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If the simulated reality games are the same as the virtual reality use well it will bring a new kind of innovation and adaptation to the gambling world imagine having a virtual reality gambling game with other members but with this its not quite sure with the possibles games on it like how about the card game and slot games must be needed to be programmable in the gambling why though not just a casual game still required true money to play with this i guess in the future might be use this.
Several casino gabling just have an update with simulated reality games and they not really focus with virtual reality game, I think both kind between virtual reality games or simulated reality games if running by system better not have listed on gambling casino, I think will make beginner and newbie put their gambling on simulated or virtual reality games. Better have update kinds with games option looks as fun and will give interested to play although have to fill our fund but have several gambler they want getting funny when entry with gambling or casino.

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March 23, 2022, 04:51:36 AM
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Believing or not believing in services is relative. If a gambler continues to use the service, even though he already knows that the provider can manipulate the services, he will not think too much about it.
After all, he finds the comfort factor in betting using the service.
I don't know the service because I don't use that type of bet and if I want to bet on sports betting, I will choose bets like gamblers in sports betting.
For the results of this type of bet, it may be arranged or predicted before the match starts because we don't know how the system works.

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March 23, 2022, 04:54:42 AM
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I’m not sure I’m a huge fan of them myself, but apparently this has been a big thing for a online casinos. Here’s some interesting info I found about them ..
Virtual Reality isn't the same as Simulated Reality games since OP is referring to sports betting and how some sportsbooks offer them as an alternative to betting on actual matches.

Simulated Reality is kind of similar to how some casinos have their own virtual horse racing game instead of offering actual odds from specific horse racing events.

So these types of games are just made by the operators and providers and there's no connection to the actual games of the sport that they're going to simulate?
Yup, it's basically like a replica but it's riskier knowing that there won't be much information available when placing bets. I remember placing a bet once and you can't even watch the actual simulation since there's no platform that streams the game so I only followed the game through the live feed.

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March 23, 2022, 05:23:19 AM
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What is your opinion?



These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

The same goes for other computer generated game results from any of the online casinos.
There were always gonna be a possibility of a rig, but that only depends If these casinos are truthful to their "provably fair" service.
These simulated reality games/league has even compared and competed with actual sports betting, but I say no you cannot compare these 2, there's a huge difference, sports betting is way better than betting on simulated games.
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March 23, 2022, 08:30:07 AM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?
Simulated reality game? The word itself seems new for me, I know the simulation games also there are lot of popular games like battle field games but if its against the preprogrammed opponent then I won't trust it. If you like the game the play but betting on it is not really trustworthy.









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I have never bet on sports in simulated reality because I don't really trust the artificial intelligence that generates the events of the game. Instead I choose to bet on real matches where a lot depends on the players, the coach and the strategy of the game.

Moreover, I believe that sports in simulated reality are more susceptible to control by the artificial intelligence creators.

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March 23, 2022, 10:02:05 AM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
I think these games need to be always separated to avoid confusing the punter from the real games and stimulated ones...

As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?
I think this is something that we all have because we really don't know if the match is fixed and the bad part is they might give a picture of one team being a favorite but in fact it's not as there isn't much data to use to rely on past performance.

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I have never bet on sports in simulated reality because I don't really trust the artificial intelligence that generates the events of the game. Instead I choose to bet on real matches where a lot depends on the players, the coach and the strategy of the game.

Moreover, I believe that sports in simulated reality are more susceptible to control by the artificial intelligence creators.
Even though in a real game there may be contractual relationships between teams and players, which sometimes of course happens and then causes scandals, such competitions are certainly less predictable than those that
AI can present.  I would never bet at all when you are essentially playing with a computer, which, as you know, is unlikely to be beaten in the long run. 
After all, the one who wrote these programs is not an idiot, to lose, unless he begins to write such algorithms, this is completely out of the question. 
Well, in general: AI is disguised programs, which anyway were once made by specific programmers.

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March 23, 2022, 11:54:41 AM
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I have never bet on sports in simulated reality because I don't really trust the artificial intelligence that generates the events of the game. Instead I choose to bet on real matches where a lot depends on the players, the coach and the strategy of the game.

Moreover, I believe that sports in simulated reality are more susceptible to control by the artificial intelligence creators.

The level of confidence upon seeing the result is truly different since its looks like they can manipulate the result on simulated reality that's why I always doubt to bet on this if there's someone offering such betting option, so same as you I always prefer to bet on real time matches since we can see the fairness on the game and even if we lost the result is satisfying.

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Even though in a real game there may be contractual relationships between teams and players, which sometimes of course happens and then causes scandals, such competitions are certainly less predictable than those that
AI can present.  I would never bet at all when you are essentially playing with a computer, which, as you know, is unlikely to be beaten in the long run. 
After all, the one who wrote these programs is not an idiot, to lose, unless he begins to write such algorithms, this is completely out of the question. 
Well, in general: AI is disguised programs, which anyway were once made by specific programmers.

I agree that betting against AI is not a good idea. There can be some manipulation by the AI to guarantee a 100% winrate in the long run. Te only form of getting that could work is if the simulated games are fully random and don't offer any edges for AI of the players. This is hard to verify because the company could just say their games are fair and the AI has no influence. Another approach could be to only let the AI simulate the games but don't actually take part in the betting. The only bets could come from humans. Here it needs to be verified that no human can have access to proprietary data and use it for exploiting. Randomness seems like the best approach again. Having games with 50/50 chances makes it fair for anybody. And the casinos then just takes a small fee from the games for their operating costs. Overall I think that these simulated games remain a smaller market. People prefer to watch and bet live sports.
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It will feel weird if we use tools that support Virtual Reality because it's like we're watching an adult movie without anyone else knowing what we're doing Grin

If AI has been implemented and can be easily accessed by gamblers, there is a possibility that gamblers can ask the winning percentage of each team or player so that they can choose correctly. AI will calculate all existing calculations, collect data from various sources, and give us the final result. It will save us time in searching for valid information.



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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

I don't think these simulation games are totally trustworthy because it seems that simulated games can be easily manipulated and controlled by the operator, unless they declare they are running on provably fair which I suppose, they aren't. Since these games are run with the help of artificial intelligence, it would be much accessible to bypass. The feeling of entertainment and excitement won't be elevated as much too because there's a difference between playing in actual in virtual or in simulation.

If you really want to experience, you could try and then decide from your first-hand experience. It's still much better to figure it on your own to know if it's worth it or not. Just be vigilant in choosing and in betting.
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I made the same mistake once! I saw familiar teams playing and I placed a bet, only after placing a bet it came to my brain "it was not the right time for that (it was in the morning hours), and then I realized that I placed a bet on some simulated reality game! Well, since then I pay more attention, and I guess you are right that beginners often make this kind of mistake, at least once!
By the way, except LoL, I don't follow and bet on anything else connected with esports! I still like "the old way", betting on real sports, more attractive!
That's a common mistake that a newbie can make because they are completely new to it and they don't have an idea if there are difference between the actual sports bet and the simulated reality games but once get the hang of it they will now realize that the two games are not completely the same.

You must be thankful if you placed your first bet on simulated reality games because you will have an experience with it while others that know sports betting first before this game, will never try betting on it because to them it can look weird and they won't risk money on something that they are not familiar with. If this is not displayed on sports betting site then where should they placed it? But better if they make a category to avoid confusion.

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No matter how smart artificial intelligence and machine learning has proven to advance in the gambling sector it's reality games leagues is still not a complete luck trial. This is just an advance technology of real-life football experience that is still open to manipulative works and since it has a central control so nothing is perfect about the system
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I'm not a fan of these things, though it gives you a better picture on how probabilities unfold and help reach a certain conclusion by letting things play out by themselves. Normally one would assume that these games already have the outcome before it is shown to other bettors, but there will always be auditors on these games in order to verify the veracity and integrity of the games being shown. Anyway, why would you bet on algorithms pushing numbers to play on their own instead of betting on real people doing the real sport?
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