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April 04, 2022, 09:58:06 AM
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Don't make a conclusion yet because simulated reality games are just starting.
And I believe, they can always get patrons for this type of game.
As many don't want to mingle with people in public, this game will get their niche in this gaming industry.
And also, just want to point out also that there are pros and cons of online casinos.
But people realize a lot of its benefits during this pandemic period, and some are still appreciating those benefits up until today.

I think the point is just that they are more like games than sports,,, that is all. Not to say that they have no place or that they cannot be taken seriously,,, the proof that millions watch and the players earn a lot shows that this is legitimate.

Maybe one day the definition of sports will evolve and Olympics will also be mental focused more than physical but for now, simulated reality is simulated reality and I would never call them sports Smiley

One day when I will bet on it then maybe I see it differently.

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April 04, 2022, 10:06:01 AM
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I'm not a big fan of it. I have seen a few and I don't trust them at all. Very arbitrary things happen on it and it might as well be rigged. You just don't know. I might as well bet on provably fair dice, if I don't want to bet on actual sports.
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April 04, 2022, 10:06:52 AM
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Don't make a conclusion yet because simulated reality games are just starting.
And I believe, they can always get patrons for this type of game.

It is just the fact that it is online and we don't have any proofs or we can check whether that simulated reality games are real or not or if the third party service can manipulate the game based on the number or amount of total bets in that game.

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April 04, 2022, 12:31:04 PM
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Its possible the reason these games are promoted is because the data feed for the results is more cheaply supplied then conventional betting.   The margins might be better for the provider and if enough people bet then its worth listing.
During the pandemic times, there were no sports last year and during those times I started to bet on simulated reality games and while I am not a fan of these games, there is no problem gambling on them when you have nothing else going on. You either bet on those TT games that are mostly rigged or you have to bet on these simulated reality games.

There are some soccer games where they show a gaming type of stream and you can bet on it, like 10 mins FIFA or something like that. As long as you are having fun betting on any of these, that's completely fine. But, if you are gambling on these simulated sports because you're desperate to gambling and don't have enough events, it's a problem.

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April 04, 2022, 12:45:26 PM
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Its possible the reason these games are promoted is because the data feed for the results is more cheaply supplied then conventional betting.   The margins might be better for the provider and if enough people bet then its worth listing.
During the pandemic times, there were no sports last year and during those times I started to bet on simulated reality games and while I am not a fan of these games, there is no problem gambling on them when you have nothing else going on. You either bet on those TT games that are mostly rigged or you have to bet on these simulated reality games.

There are some soccer games where they show a gaming type of stream and you can bet on it, like 10 mins FIFA or something like that. As long as you are having fun betting on any of these, that's completely fine. But, if you are gambling on these simulated sports because you're desperate to gambling and don't have enough events, it's a problem.

That is very true. During lockdown months, people are finding ways what to do to avoid mental stress. People are even watching replays again and again. And thus, these reality games got popular even from non gamblers. And I think, their presence will still continue as some of these people are still patronizing this owed to the fact that they already got used to it. Or they don't want to go in overcrowded places anymore. So they are just happy to stay at home and have a bet on these simulated reality games.
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April 04, 2022, 09:29:08 PM
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It goes by the usual game that we've been used to but I think that everyone would get into the typical games or sports that we've been a fan of.
Trying out something new like with the simulated ones is also fun depending on the gambler's perspective if he or she is really enjoying on it.
As long as he can enjoy it, he can still play his favorite game and if it's a simulation game, maybe he needs to get used to it first before he bets on the actual game. Simulation games can help him get to know a certain type of game more deeply so that when he starts with the real game, he will not be surprised or he will know what to do. But if a person is bored with the game he is used to playing, it looks like he really needs to take a break because instead of trying another game, it could cost him a lot of losses.
That's one of the purpose of simulated games but there's also real money that's involved on it. So, the risk is still the same, win or lose, you get to have it no matter and how good or bad you are with it.
Well, we get bored easily so trying something new is normal to us and if we find it interesting and enjoyable and as well as profitable, we'll stay on it and keep playing with it.

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April 04, 2022, 10:08:30 PM
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In sports they are usually called Simulated Reality Leagues, because they not only simulate individual games rather the whole leagues and many games in there. It's not real matches, they use historical data for the teams and matches, but the games itself are randomly generated. The biggest markets are football and cricket matches, you can check them out here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/cricket/simulated-reality-league/matches/future

This is just betting on the games, it's not like you can watch the whole game on your TV. There can be graphical imagines of the games but they are all created after the games are simulated and only die illustration purposes. It must sound very strange to someone who hasn't heard about it before. There quite a lot of people really into that alternative reality games. It gives the opportunity to have many more games per week which would never be possible with real life players. We

Interesting. I have seen this at several bookmakers but didn't take it seriously as it looks like slot machines to me (purely psychologically). I would like to know if anyone has done research on how well these games match the real ones - are there such insane results that we sometimes see in reality or the spread of outcomes is smoother.
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April 05, 2022, 07:33:15 AM
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That's one of the purpose of simulated games but there's also real money that's involved on it. So, the risk is still the same, win or lose, you get to have it no matter and how good or bad you are with it.
Well, we get bored easily so trying something new is normal to us and if we find it interesting and enjoyable and as well as profitable, we'll stay on it and keep playing with it.
I think that's the purpose of playing gambling games, not just simulation games. As long as people can enjoy the gambling game, whatever the model and the game, it won't be a problem for us or other people or other gamblers because each of us will choose the type of game we like. Others may suggest trying to play a certain game, but it is we who enjoy the game and we will also experience it. But yes, we know the risks will remain the same, so be careful in spending money to play gambling.

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April 05, 2022, 09:48:10 AM
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Is simulated realty games is different from player versus player games? like NBA 2k game, Tekken, Mortal Combat, etc? or was that games comes from third party provider? If it was from third party then we should not trust it. I usually filter this kind of game I am not sure why they include it in sports sometimes I get confused to it and place bet on those game.

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April 05, 2022, 06:35:51 PM
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I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.

Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
I honestly agree with you, simulated reality can never be compared to real reality, aside all you've said, simulated reality games also appears really boring to me, because they are a direct opposite of what the real games are, this is one of the reasons I rather be in the stadium watching the match live than watch it on TV, I even wonder how simulated reality games became a form of sports.
It is like we compare the online gambling to the real world gambling. Real world gambling is still more enjoyable because you can see a real crowd inside the casino but in online, your the only one that plays in your room. You can't do anything for now because the pandemic hit us and people are now restricted to go to the crowded areas.

Simulated reality games are not a sports but they can be a collection of sports games. A real definition of sports is something that it is played on the real world. With that explanation of @stepwilli above, this will give gamblers a new reason to avoid this game. I feel bad for those who invented this game.
And also, just want to point out also that there are pros and cons of online casinos.
But people realize a lot of its benefits during this pandemic period, and some are still appreciating those benefits up until today.
Well, there are definitely pros and cons to both online and offline casinos, and for the online casinos, you already mentioned one which is that its open even during the pandemic, and like you said, people appreciate this and I believe online casinos are already here to stay, whether pandemic or no pandemic, I can bet my balls that online casinos make far more money than offline casinos this days and I believe this will continue even after the pandemic is permanently gone, and one other pros I see in online casinos is its broadness and unlimitedness, this is a situation where an online casinos who's physical office is based in USA, has millions of users around the globe, this is the power of the internet.
Too bad too that this is a con for offline casinos, because their analogy style limits them from getting customers around the world, but the pro here is that, offline casinos are more enjoyable than online casinos, the only joy in online casino is when one wins a bet.

But in this, I still prefer reality over visual, this is one of the reasons I hate NFTs and will never buy them with my money, if you find an NFTs or NFTs in my wallet, know it I got them for free.

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In sports they are usually called Simulated Reality Leagues, because they not only simulate individual games rather the whole leagues and many games in there. It's not real matches, they use historical data for the teams and matches, but the games itself are randomly generated. The biggest markets are football and cricket matches, you can check them out here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/cricket/simulated-reality-league/matches/future

This is just betting on the games, it's not like you can watch the whole game on your TV. There can be graphical imagines of the games but they are all created after the games are simulated and only die illustration purposes. It must sound very strange to someone who hasn't heard about it before. There quite a lot of people really into that alternative reality games. It gives the opportunity to have many more games per week which would never be possible with real life players. We

Interesting. I have seen this at several bookmakers but didn't take it seriously as it looks like slot machines to me (purely psychologically). I would like to know if anyone has done research on how well these games match the real ones - are there such insane results that we sometimes see in reality or the spread of outcomes is smoother.
It could never be comparable when it talks about reality aspects which neither it would happen or not and since its simulated games then results could really be totally random and surprisingly
there were people who do really get interested on making out some bets out of these games considering that they arent live ones or basing up on historical data just like on whats been mentioned
above then it might be totally or 100% random in result where some people do find it out to be interesting.

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April 06, 2022, 12:02:11 AM
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Is simulated realty games is different from player versus player games? like NBA 2k game, Tekken, Mortal Combat, etc? or was that games comes from third party provider? If it was from third party then we should not trust it. I usually filter this kind of game I am not sure why they include it in sports sometimes I get confused to it and place bet on those game.
It is definitely different, simulated reality games probably use a model or algorithm that's based on the actual stats of the teams but there's still randomness to it as certain models act differently to certain matchups.

Esports is the other category you're referring to since it's based on a PvP format. Anyway, some bookies always have an SRL acronym at the end of the markets whenever they offer these types of games for pre live or live betting.

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Don't make a conclusion yet because simulated reality games are just starting.
And I believe, they can always get patrons for this type of game.
As many don't want to mingle with people in public, this game will get their niche in this gaming industry.
And also, just want to point out also that there are pros and cons of online casinos.
But people realize a lot of its benefits during this pandemic period, and some are still appreciating those benefits up until today.
Praise the Almighty! 
The pandemic is close to an end and humanity will probably return to its usual way of life and communication between people. 
However, now in Europe a new misfortune.  You all know what I'm talking about.  Alas, this seems to be a long time. 
But I still think this process of getting out of the pandemic will reduce the use of online games and encourage people to participate in real games a little.  And this is much more useful for live communication and for physical exertion on the body.  It's good for health. 
In general, it is time for humanity to stop immersion in virtual worlds, there are already too many of them. 
And then AI will enslave all people and there will be peace, like in the movie "Matrix" Smiley

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I support your point of view. Humanity needs to understand that large corporations use our time only for their own enrichment. The more we are online, the less we participate in real life and in solving the real problems facing our world, whether it be pandemics or conflicts between countries.

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But unfortunately, many people are happy with what these companies offer. They seem eager to taste it and own it. Our world in the future will be different and with the development of today's technology becoming more advanced, we will be less likely to participate in real life. Maybe there will be no more visits to the homes of our distant relatives by car or motorbike to see the surroundings because we can get it through technology. That is what we will face in the future, whether we like it or not.



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But unfortunately, many people are happy with what these companies offer. They seem eager to taste it and own it. Our world in the future will be different and with the development of today's technology becoming more advanced, we will be less likely to participate in real life. Maybe there will be no more visits to the homes of our distant relatives by car or motorbike to see the surroundings because we can get it through technology. That is what we will face in the future, whether we like it or not.
Immersion in virtual technologies has not yet spread to many countries. 
But I think that in some foreseeable time, opposition to this penetration will be born and will spread.  Some balance has to be found here. 
For example, the most common game in the world is football.  Well, how can you replace all those passions of the fans and the players themselves with a computer picture?  It simply cannot be replaced. 
But when the world reaches the real / virtual balance, this issue, as I believe, has not yet been resolved.  I would like to quickly determine this balance and finally decide.

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April 06, 2022, 08:32:51 AM
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But unfortunately, many people are happy with what these companies offer. They seem eager to taste it and own it. Our world in the future will be different and with the development of today's technology becoming more advanced, we will be less likely to participate in real life. Maybe there will be no more visits to the homes of our distant relatives by car or motorbike to see the surroundings because we can get it through technology. That is what we will face in the future, whether we like it or not.

The saddest thing is that many of us do not realize that no technology can replace or recreate the real feelings and reactions that arise in the human body when we meet in person after a long separation. It is impossible to convey the feelings of a kiss from a loved one, a caress and a firm, friendly hug from a distance. That's why I think you should spend more time in the real world and not try to turn yourself into an avatar.

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April 06, 2022, 09:40:23 AM
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Of course, it will feel strange for people used to using the previous methods. As people who live in this transitional era, we cannot deny the presence of virtual technology and even some of us feel happy using this technology. But luckily, people can still use the old ways to play and haven't really thought about using ways that use virtual technology.

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It will disappear from human civilization in the future because it will be replaced by virtual technology that is newer than what we see today. People seem to welcome its presence and want to try it even though the technology itself still needs to be perfected. But someday, when technology has developed rapidly in the future, people will feel lost to be able to feel real touch.



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April 06, 2022, 09:55:57 AM
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Yes, this is because real communication is gradually being forced out of our lives because of the emergence of new technologies. This can be clearly seen in the last three or four generations. The older generation still lives in reality and needs to communicate because in their youth there were no gadgets for communication. With each new generation, the attachment to new technology is getting higher. Good or bad, everyone decides for himself.

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April 06, 2022, 11:18:56 AM
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I'm not a big fan of it. I have seen a few and I don't trust them at all. Very arbitrary things happen on it and it might as well be rigged. You just don't know. I might as well bet on provably fair dice, if I don't want to bet on actual sports.

I understand where you're coming from. It's really difficult to trust simulated games because there's a high probability they are being controlled or manipulated in accordance to what the developer or operator wants. Simulated games could be rigged because they can conduct a game prior and just show the players the results inclined with them to gain more profit. I know this might not be the case for every simulated games there is, but we can't help but to doubt most especially if it isn't running under probably fair.
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