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March 27, 2022, 09:44:17 PM
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Thank you So Much for your kind attention and reply! I am talking about trading, for example daily trading. I agree there are gamblers in the market as well that just buy and sell sentimentally , but if you monitor the market since November again you will see there is not any clear trend and technically most of the indicators do not work properly! Maybe it is a war signal and the market predicted that , but it is an event not a trend, right?
There has been a bull run, which was as most of us expected. But as usual after a bull run the market would then go into becoming bearish. But, during this bearish times it doesn’t mean that the market would just keep going down, it still continues that same up and down movement, and that is after it has reached an all time high price and then has been corrected.

So, I don’t really get what you are trying to say by saying that there hasn’t been any particular trend, We have seen the bullish trend and now we are at the bearish trend. It’s just how the market has been working through the years. But it’s alright to see things differently though.
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March 27, 2022, 10:51:22 PM
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There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?
Well those who believe on repeat itself on the bitcoin price will never happen. Every behavior on the market price will change and sometimes it will matter on the fundamental event that results in the price fluctuate. That is right, in protecting the price, don't forget the fundamental analysis not just the technical analysis. Because the market will follow sometimes fundamental trends and that is why it always has behavior changes.
However, sometimes creating a prediction will not always have an accurate result because we already know that the market is unpredictable.









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Market behaviour has changed to a great level but with the pattern it changed many people will not know that it has changed especially the newbies in trading because the change is little in the behavioral and major in technical. Although the technical drives the behaviour.

There are many tools in the market today and many of these tools that are working are so much crowded and any tool that is over used because ineffective with time. A tool becomes so effective if a particular niche is using it.

If you are in the market years back, you will know that we have a different market and behaviour we are using now. The market was a win- win situation then before the institutional traders came into the market and changed many things.

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March 28, 2022, 05:39:58 PM
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It will not go the same way, the market is very volatile. There is no indicator we can rely on once for long trades. As time goes by, we have to update our trading strategy. Because we will not always receive the same signal. If we could use the same strategy for every trade, of course all traders would be rich. Because they never lose in a trade. In trading there are winners and losers, depending on our hard work in analyzing and our luck when the market is as expected.

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March 28, 2022, 05:51:41 PM
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There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?
That would only be true if every single trader was using the same indicators, time frame, money management skills, risk assessment and had the same innate skills when trading, something which is not possible at all, after all I have seen people making money with a strategy while other people lose money with the exact same strategy, so while what you are saying could be theoretically possible it is something almost impossible, so I do not agree with you and your assessment of the market conditions we are currently seeing.
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March 28, 2022, 06:45:39 PM
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There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction!
Yes they do have that. BUT. the amount of time they spent for checking the indicators are different and the way people react when the indicators have reached certain conditions are different for some people, so the way people thinking is different depending on how they setup their indicators for their own need. They usually have tweaked some of the indicators to make it better.

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March 28, 2022, 09:38:17 PM
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All technical indicators convey the same message. The only analysis that can possibly counter a technical indicator is a fundamental news. So far we have had series of bitcoin adoption but yet the market still seems stagnant We have still had lots of crypto bans and still the prices fails to fall further. I will just say at this point it's best to wait for a break out before expecting anything new
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the amount of time they spent for checking the indicators are different and the way people react when the indicators have reached certain conditions are different for some people, so the way people thinking is different depending on how they setup their indicators for their own need. They usually have tweaked some of the indicators to make it better.
Every person has a different time to understand what they are looking at. Some people may look at a chart and know what they are looking at and sees what they need to see in 10 seconds, whereas some other person can look at the exact same chart and could maybe take a whole day to make a decision.

It's sad that I am the second type of person who takes days to see what I need to see, at which time sometimes even the results and the chart changes and I need to redo the whole thing again Cheesy. But, great traders and not so great ones will always have a bit of a difference between each other and this is one of them.
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March 29, 2022, 07:18:08 AM
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To start with, there's no way everyone who uses the same indicators will be basing them on the same timeframe at the same time. If someone is viewing a particular indicator on 30 minutes and another is viewing it on a daily TF, it's obvious the readings won't be the same. One timeframe may be indicating a buy while the other a sell. So, invariably, what that will mean is that various traders will be taking divergent positions on the same pair at the same time. That's why we get to see traders going left while some go right at the same time.

About market behaviour in recent time, I think most people are beginning to maintain a bullish outlook on Bitcoin because of the prevalent happenings around it.

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Even with the "tools" or those who share their analysis in streaming services, there will always be a percentage of traders that like to go against the flow.
That will never be changed because we have different behaviors when it comes to deciding.
Just imagine if all of us are going on the same road. There will be nothing left in the town we just parted with so, who will be there to trade against?
Instead of the word "change" what I use is "adopt".

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As the world started to accept and adapt to crypto applications, their treatment has become very different or so diverse that it had to adjust and made viable to other users. So more people involved means more parameters affecting the market.

Another thing is that it's going to be harder to predict. That's why you say its behavior has changed. It's always going to be tricky.

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March 29, 2022, 08:20:42 AM
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There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?
that's the uniqueness of the market, where there are no traders who are in line, even though they get the same signal, but they will take different actions when someone is buying, but there is also a time when someone is selling. that's human psychology and everyone has their own opinion, where there is a stubborn human side, there are also those who just follow what people say, so it's impossible for everything to be in line, if there is, of course within a certain period of time, so we often see pumps or dump

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March 29, 2022, 08:30:15 AM
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There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?
I see the behavior of using tools as part of the search for knowledge for a more accurate assessment and it is always necessary for everyone, from beginners to even after mastering all skills. Even so far when looking at this market, we need to evaluate it because of many things. If you really understand it, the results you get will be worth it. There are many things to talk about creating buying and selling behavior. I like news, investor sentiment, etc., because they are all very important. If you are careful and serious, you will always know how to control it no matter what happens in the market. It can be the daily stress of thinking to make trading decisions, or just being a pure holder who always sells everything when profits have been made.

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March 29, 2022, 09:56:14 AM
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As the world started to accept and adapt to crypto applications, their treatment has become very different or so diverse that it had to adjust and made viable to other users. So more people involved means more parameters affecting the market.

Another thing is that it's going to be harder to predict. That's why you say its behavior has changed. It's always going to be tricky.
I think the things that happen right now across the world brought back focus on crypto since it delivered like a safe way to save and transfer funds in places which where under war.
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March 29, 2022, 11:00:42 AM
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Thank you So Much for your kind attention and reply! I am talking about trading, for example daily trading. I agree there are gamblers in the market as well that just buy and sell sentimentally , but if you monitor the market since November again you will see there is not any clear trend and technically most of the indicators do not work properly! Maybe it is a war signal and the market predicted that , but it is an event not a trend, right?
indicators are just a tools that can help us to obtain some information, but since market is so volatile there's always a chance those useful indicators that what we are using will be not accurate sometimes, especially if we are just basing in one time frame because surely there will always an error on our speculation..  
That's the reason why in market there's a different time frames wherein for us to choose which one is more accurate and good to make speculation. If we you were talking about daily trading these are very common time frames 1H, 4H, daily and so on for long term.

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March 29, 2022, 11:09:50 AM
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Even with the "tools" or those who share their analysis in streaming services, there will always be a percentage of traders that like to go against the flow.
That will never be changed because we have different behaviors when it comes to deciding.
Just imagine if all of us are going on the same road. There will be nothing left in the town we just parted with so, who will be there to trade against?
Instead of the word "change" what I use is "adopt".

It is obvious that our reasoning in trading won't be the same thing plus FOMO, JOMO and emotions, all interact with our decision even when we have made better analysis of the market. In market , there will be losers and gainers and the next day the table may turn as so it goes until someone is made rich from others that are consistently losing their capital.
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March 29, 2022, 11:40:49 AM
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I see your point but indicators are just indicators to give you idea about the market and it is still different from the strategy. It is a battle between sellers and buyers and indicators only showing some technical analysis but that doesn't mean all people are following those. Not all traders have the same analysis and perspective about the market and there is no way majority will only follow what will an indicator will tell without basing on other things.

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Thank you for your reply but What happens if most traders leave the trade to robots? Same as they prefer to sit relaxed in the car and let AI take them to their destination point?
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March 29, 2022, 01:20:56 PM
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I would like to say the patterns mights be changing for the crypto currency but the behaviour is all over same. I dont see any changes in that one. The crypto is entriely based on decentralised trading which is result of how much is being influx and how much is outflux thats all! Crypto gets quickly altered in the prices based on proportionate amount of money which has been injected into the stream of market. For example, bitcoin might need heavy investment but simple altcoin like SHIBA could be moved quicker with heavy fiat injected into it.

So these so called "investment patterns" might be changing over the course of time, however the bulls and bear cycle over large period of time remains constant. I see crypto is moving further and further on positive scale.

Obviously if you gonna see the trading chart scale on 1 minute level and on 10 year scale then that's entirely different story.
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March 29, 2022, 01:27:26 PM
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I don't think that the market behavior has changed at all it is still the same as always unpredictable.
Signal group has been around for so long and it has been like that even in the past we would see some people who would believe those but there are others who would be against their signals.
Most of the signal groups are playing with shitcoin since it could easily be manipulated if they would have enough people to cooperate so I don't really like those groups at all.

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