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April 08, 2022, 02:26:38 PM
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The result was predictable Smiley Russia with its demands and ultimatums was sent on a "walking erotic journey" Smiley
Under-Fuhrer, having decided that he is God and all his ultimatums will be fulfilled, did not take into account that he communicates not with his slaves, but with people from the free world, where laws, contracts, and obligations work. As a result, like any "initiative" of Russia, it all turned into a comedy. Do you know what they did? They created a CURRENCY account at Gazprombank. Where do buyers transfer.. What? Yes - CURRENCY! And then they themselves buy rubles on the interbank exchange! Smiley "The West has been brought to its knees, another victory for Russia!" Smiley))
Putin is now using dictatorship and not counting others because he is in superpower. Don't even think about the advantages and disadvantages. Russia has no idea how many people will suffer if the gas supply is cut off, he is just looking after his own interests.
Now, Russia wants to build a new world order with China. As a result, powerful Russia will become infinitely powerful and will do whatever it wants while keeping the whole world in its hands.
You are wrong. Russia is not a superpower. And she never was. This is a backward, wild, totalitarian country, headed by a madman who imagines himself to be the messiah. Oh yeah, and they still have nuclear weapons. It is this /, nuclear weapons, that has become an argument for intimidating the West. Remove nuclear weapons from Russia now, and Ukraine will capture Russia in a couple of months Smiley Russia does not "crush" the West with its economy, or with its technologies that it will stop supplying to the West, there is no greatness. There is only the fear of nuclear war, and this crazy dwarf uses it very well.
Regarding China, I agree that China has contradictions with the West, but I do not agree that China will create an alliance with Russia. Russia for him, China - just a raw material appendage.

You have to admit that Russia is currently in the position of superpower. And it's not just nuclear weapons that keep Russia afloat. It's right that they possessed the world's largest stock of nuclear weapons. Besides  It is also strong in economic and military and mineral resources.
Further study: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia

The war is not a video game that will occupy Russia in a few months if Ukraine is given a nuclear weapon. Russia has the manpower and enough troops that Ukraine does not have. Because Ukraine is a very small country. 

So, in terms of manpower and technology, Ukraine will not be able to compete with Russia. This is not to say that I am supporting Russia against Ukraine.

I also want Ukraine to win their freedom, a country that is passionate about independence, to win.  And let this devastating war end and peace return.

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April 08, 2022, 02:27:29 PM
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Putin has threatened so called unfriendly states to pay in rubles or have its gas supply shut off. It has said it doesn't buy things for free and so isn't going to charitable with its energy.
Europe has kicked against this with Germany saying its being blackmailed by this move. What other choice does Europe has with Russia alone selling about 40% of energy to the world.

The alternatives are in South America, through Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela, if you can buy it, the only thing is that the gas will be much more expensive, but there are alternatives, large gas pipelines can be built so that they can reach Europe much faster, that is an option because I do not see Europeans with gas cylinders on the streets, even more so when they are used to gas coming through their respective internal pipes.

The problem has worsened, but I think that both the USA and Europe began to impose very radical sanctions without taking into account the risks for themselves, the USA bowed its head against Venezuela and if Europe does not want to bow its head, it has to look for alternatives quickly.


Your alternatives for supplying gas to Europe couldn't meet demand. Cost would obviously increase cause of high demand with little supply. With high prices and little supply, Every country would want to maximize its oil and gas reserve use so would your alternatives sources.

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Your alternatives for supplying gas to Europe couldn't meet demand. Cost would obviously increase cause of high demand with little supply. With high prices and little supply, Every country would want to maximize its oil and gas reserve use so would your alternatives sources.

Russia supplies around 200 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe every year (40% of the total demand). If you take the supplies from the alternative sources (US LNG, Venezuela.etc), the spare capacity is less than 10% of the amount provided by Russia. On top of that, new regassification and LNG terminals take at least 5-6 years to build. To complicate things further, the Biden administration has taken many policies that negatively impact the shale oil and gas producers within the United States, ever since he took office in 2021 January.

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Your alternatives for supplying gas to Europe couldn't meet demand. Cost would obviously increase cause of high demand with little supply. With high prices and little supply, Every country would want to maximize its oil and gas reserve use so would your alternatives sources.

Russia supplies around 200 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe every year (40% of the total demand). If you take the supplies from the alternative sources (US LNG, Venezuela.etc), the spare capacity is less than 10% of the amount provided by Russia. On top of that, new regassification and LNG terminals take at least 5-6 years to build. To complicate things further, the Biden administration has taken many policies that negatively impact the shale oil and gas producers within the United States, ever since he took office in 2021 January.
Russia supplied this amount of gas to European countries earlier. Now the situation is rapidly changing not in favor of Russia because of the aggressive war unleashed by it and the desire to seize Ukraine. If just a week ago some European states were not ready to impose an embargo on supplies of oil, coal and gas from Russia, then after the publication of those terrible atrocities that the Russian invaders perpetrated against the civilian population in the Kiev region, Europe is almost ready to impose such an embargo even to the detriment of own interests. This is facilitated by the end of the heating season, and the previously proclaimed reorientation to "green" energy from alternative sources as a measure against a sharp climate change. European countries have realized that they need to get rid of their energy dependence on Russia, and therefore Russia will gradually lose its positions in this regard.
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Russia supplied this amount of gas to European countries earlier. Now the situation is rapidly changing not in favor of Russia because of the aggressive war unleashed by it and the desire to seize Ukraine. If just a week ago some European states were not ready to impose an embargo on supplies of oil, coal and gas from Russia, then after the publication of those terrible atrocities that the Russian invaders perpetrated against the civilian population in the Kiev region, Europe is almost ready to impose such an embargo even to the detriment of own interests. This is facilitated by the end of the heating season, and the previously proclaimed reorientation to "green" energy from alternative sources as a measure against a sharp climate change. European countries have realized that they need to get rid of their energy dependence on Russia, and therefore Russia will gradually lose its positions in this regard.

Despite all the propaganda, Russian crude oil deliveries for the month of May was sold out well in advance. Obviously the Europeans are reducing their purchases from Russia. But refiners in India, Indonesia and most importantly China have stepped up theirs. Saudi Arabia is making optimal use of this situation and the premium set for Saudi oil is at an all time high. European losers are wasting their tax money by buying super-expensive crude from "peaceful" and "non-aggressor" countries such as Saudi Arabia (let's ignore their ongoing military campaign in Yemen for a moment), and many of the countries in the EU are inching closer to bankruptcy.

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Russia supplied this amount of gas to European countries earlier. Now the situation is rapidly changing not in favor of Russia because of the aggressive war unleashed by it and the desire to seize Ukraine. If just a week ago some European states were not ready to impose an embargo on supplies of oil, coal and gas from Russia, then after the publication of those terrible atrocities that the Russian invaders perpetrated against the civilian population in the Kiev region, Europe is almost ready to impose such an embargo even to the detriment of own interests. This is facilitated by the end of the heating season, and the previously proclaimed reorientation to "green" energy from alternative sources as a measure against a sharp climate change. European countries have realized that they need to get rid of their energy dependence on Russia, and therefore Russia will gradually lose its positions in this regard.

Despite all the propaganda, Russian crude oil deliveries for the month of May was sold out well in advance. Obviously the Europeans are reducing their purchases from Russia. But refiners in India, Indonesia and most importantly China have stepped up theirs. Saudi Arabia is making optimal use of this situation and the premium set for Saudi oil is at an all time high. European losers are wasting their tax money by buying super-expensive crude from "peaceful" and "non-aggressor" countries such as Saudi Arabia (let's ignore their ongoing military campaign in Yemen for a moment), and many of the countries in the EU are inching closer to bankruptcy.

It definitely would be convenient to forget Saudi Arabia's ongoing military campaign in Yemen and other crimes against humanity it has committed so as to be able to get expensive crude oil. The war in Yemen has been going on for years but no one seems to notice and send equipments and machinery to help. Perhaps if Yemen was to be an EU member state, it may have well been different than what it is now.

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I think crypto industry can learn from Putin's master stroke of only allowing ruble for paying gas bills. Ruble was around 138/dollar in march starting and in April it is around 83/dollar. It also became best performing currency in march. So here the learning is if you want to increase the value of your crypto coin/token than you need to increase their use cases e.g. Payment for gas bills using ruble
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Russia supplied this amount of gas to European countries earlier. Now the situation is rapidly changing not in favor of Russia because of the aggressive war unleashed by it and the desire to seize Ukraine. If just a week ago some European states were not ready to impose an embargo on supplies of oil, coal and gas from Russia, then after the publication of those terrible atrocities that the Russian invaders perpetrated against the civilian population in the Kiev region, Europe is almost ready to impose such an embargo even to the detriment of own interests. This is facilitated by the end of the heating season, and the previously proclaimed reorientation to "green" energy from alternative sources as a measure against a sharp climate change. European countries have realized that they need to get rid of their energy dependence on Russia, and therefore Russia will gradually lose its positions in this regard.
Europe has considered Russia an aggressor since at least March 2014, when Crimea was annexed from Ukraine as a result of Operation "Polite People". There was a lot of noise in all political circles about this, the European Union, together with the United States, strongly condemned Russia's actions and imposed economic sanctions. Has Europe been able to get rid of, or at least reduce, its dependence on Russian gas in eight years and improve energy security level? The answer is no. There is no alternative to Russian gas for Europe, neither reasonable nor even unreasonable. And any statements to the contrary are cheap political populism in pursuit of pre-election popularity. "Pay for gas in rubles or die", it does not look like a difficult choice to think about for a long time.

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There is no alternative to Russian gas for Europe, neither reasonable nor even unreasonable. And any statements to the contrary are cheap political populism in pursuit of pre-election popularity. "Pay for gas in rubles or die", it does not look like a difficult choice to think about for a long time.

What about electric heating or using pressed briquettes ? With financial support from government, private houses can change heating system. I am not an expert, but wont central heating be replaced with steam heating? I think it does not matter how to heat water in pipes, with gas or steam boiler. First years will be hard, but wont countries have some gas supply. And I think people can always buy gas from "Russia friendly countries" with the price cheaper than directly from Russia, but expensive then usually.

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I think crypto industry can learn from Putin's master stroke of only allowing ruble for paying gas bills. Ruble was around 138/dollar in march starting and in April it is around 83/dollar. It also became best performing currency in march. So here the learning is if you want to increase the value of your crypto coin/token than you need to increase their use cases e.g. Payment for gas bills using ruble
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You have to admit that Russia is currently in the position of superpower. And it's not just nuclear weapons that keep Russia afloat. It's right that they possessed the world's largest stock of nuclear weapons. Besides  It is also strong in economic and military and mineral resources.
Further study: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia

The war is not a video game that will occupy Russia in a few months if Ukraine is given a nuclear weapon. Russia has the manpower and enough troops that Ukraine does not have. Because Ukraine is a very small country. 

So, in terms of manpower and technology, Ukraine will not be able to compete with Russia. This is not to say that I am supporting Russia against Ukraine.

I also want Ukraine to win their freedom, a country that is passionate about independence, to win.  And let this devastating war end and peace return.

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"Super Country" is not something that can be measured with a ruler. Or the presence of nuclear weapons. For example, nuclear weapons - North Korea has them. Is she a superpower? Not !
Ukraine occupies a leading position in the reserves of titanium, uranium ores and something else - a superpower? Not ! Pakistan is in the top 5 countries in terms of population - is it a super country? Not ! So what is a super country? In my opinion, a super-country, this is a country that necessarily satisfies a set of indicators. These include:
1. Developed and leading economy.
2. A country that owns and is a developer and owner of technologies (the wider the coverage, the better - from toilet paper processing to genetic chemistry, semiconductors and the space industry)
3. A country that owns a strong and technologically advanced army. The effectiveness of today's army is not in the number of people and tanks, but in technologies and the ability to use them
4. A country with a strong political influence on the world community.
5. Rights and freedoms, legislative adequacy, developed and accessible medicine and other "society organizing services"

I think the list can be expanded. But these are quite enough for a simple, initial assessment. So if you apply this profile to Russia, you will be surprised to notice that none of its indicators are such that it can be attributed to a superpower! Moreover - for all it is almost at the bottom, and only in some, it is conditionally "average"!
Does its area seem "great" to you? So I will open your eyes - in Russia, more than 30% of its territory is habitable. 70% of the territory is not residential area! nothing has ever been built there, and never will be. There are no minerals and conditions for the development of anything. Population ? Yes many. But there are many countries where there are more people. Army. Well, we have already listened to this "fairy tale" .. Ukraine has proved that this is a lie and fake Smiley Resources? So after the introduction of the first sanctions, in Russia even simple A4 office paper became a shortage!!! Do you know why? That's right - the Russian economy is completely dependent on the technology of the West!
Would you like to continue the disappointment?! Smiley

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Putin has threatened so called unfriendly states to pay in rubles or have its gas supply shut off. It has said it doesn't buy things for free and so isn't going to charitable with its energy.
Europe has kicked against this with Germany saying its being blackmailed by this move. What other choice does Europe has with Russia alone selling about 40% of energy to the world.
OMG, this is very treat for all over the world So if it will take a real place it can harmful for all the world and the total system can clops I think.
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Who told you that these two countries are against Russia? Where is that written? All the economic transactions that were with these countries did not stop for a second. The news that you are presented with is full of fakes and garbage.

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Today is April 11, 2022. In March, until April 1, the "leader of the greatest power" set an ultimatum - "whoever does not pay in rubles from April 1, the shipment of gas / oil will be stopped. I said so, I am the greatest ruler!" . Can someone tell without a smirk how the "greatest new Fuhrer" brought the whole world to its knees and how his ultimatum was implemented? And tell us what else do you think the "greatest ruler" will take in the next steps, who today brought the "greatest economy" to a financial default! Smiley

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There is no alternative to Russian gas for Europe, neither reasonable nor even unreasonable. And any statements to the contrary are cheap political populism in pursuit of pre-election popularity. "Pay for gas in rubles or die", it does not look like a difficult choice to think about for a long time.

What about electric heating or using pressed briquettes ? With financial support from government, private houses can change heating system. I am not an expert, but wont central heating be replaced with steam heating? I think it does not matter how to heat water in pipes, with gas or steam boiler. First years will be hard, but wont countries have some gas supply. And I think people can always buy gas from "Russia friendly countries" with the price cheaper than directly from Russia, but expensive then usually.
Europe can be warmed by even the dried shit of Ukrainian refugees, if it is sufficiently democratic and carbon neutral. Only 10-15% of the gas consumed by Europe is used for heating, the main consumer of gas is industry, and fertilizers for agriculture are also made from gas. The rejection of Russian gas will cause the collapse of the entire energy-intensive industry in Germany and Italy.

Today is April 11, 2022. In March, until April 1, the "leader of the greatest power" set an ultimatum - "whoever does not pay in rubles from April 1, the shipment of gas / oil will be stopped. I said so, I am the greatest ruler!" . Can someone tell without a smirk how the "greatest new Fuhrer" brought the whole world to its knees and how his ultimatum was implemented? And tell us what else do you think the "greatest ruler" will take in the next steps, who today brought the "greatest economy" to a financial default! Smiley
I will answer you here because you made your topic about the Russian "default" self-moderated. The snn article you link to is bullshit and premature ejaculation. Russia has more than enough money to pay all its debts immediately and in full. But the West needs Russia to declare a technical default in order not only to freeze the $300 billion of the Russian Central Bank, but also to expropriate them. This is the most common theft and robbery, the West issued a "black mark" to itself and undermined confidence in the dollar and the euro (as well as in the Japanese yen, the British pound and even the Swiss franc). Further, in essence, the due date for the payment, which could not be met due to the freezing of funds, was April 5th. After that, there is a month of grace period until May 5th. After that, creditors can present for default, but a quorum must take place, which must still be collected, which is technically not easy to do. Further, if the quorum of creditors still meets, the rating agency must declare a technical default. It is not clear which rating agency will be able to do this, they all stopped working with Russia due to sanctions. Then there will be a trial, because Russia has payments in its hands confirming that it paid its obligations in good faith on time, but the bank did not process these payments due to sanctions. And only then will there be a real technical default, and Russia will lose access to the external borrowing market, which it has already lost due to sanctions.

Let's have your next weekly package of sanctions, Russia puts them in a package with packages. Grin

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You have to admit that Russia is currently in the position of superpower. And it's not just nuclear weapons that keep Russia afloat. It's right that they possessed the world's largest stock of nuclear weapons. Besides  It is also strong in economic and military and mineral resources.
Further study: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia

The war is not a video game that will occupy Russia in a few months if Ukraine is given a nuclear weapon. Russia has the manpower and enough troops that Ukraine does not have. Because Ukraine is a very small country. 

So, in terms of manpower and technology, Ukraine will not be able to compete with Russia. This is not to say that I am supporting Russia against Ukraine.

I also want Ukraine to win their freedom, a country that is passionate about independence, to win.  And let this devastating war end and peace return.
I agree that Ukraine would have absolutely zero chance to invade Russia, that is not even to be considered at all. However, Russia is not a "super" power without nuclear weapons. There are nations with resources everywhere around the world and yet they are not that rich, they are doing alright or corrupted as hell.

Look at Venezuela, they have oil like no other nation around them and yet they are doing worse than all the others, why? Because they are corrupted. If they had no nuclear powers, Russia would have been terrible, they would have been Saudi Arabia at the very best. So, do not consider them as big as you may imagine, majority of their power comes from nuke threat.

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There is no alternative to Russian gas for Europe, neither reasonable nor even unreasonable. And any statements to the contrary are cheap political populism in pursuit of pre-election popularity. "Pay for gas in rubles or die", it does not look like a difficult choice to think about for a long time.

What about electric heating or using pressed briquettes ? With financial support from government, private houses can change heating system. I am not an expert, but wont central heating be replaced with steam heating? I think it does not matter how to heat water in pipes, with gas or steam boiler. First years will be hard, but wont countries have some gas supply. And I think people can always buy gas from "Russia friendly countries" with the price cheaper than directly from Russia, but expensive then usually.
Europe can be warmed by even the dried shit of Ukrainian refugees, if it is sufficiently democratic and carbon neutral. Only 10-15% of the gas consumed by Europe is used for heating, the main consumer of gas is industry, and fertilizers for agriculture are also made from gas. The rejection of Russian gas will cause the collapse of the entire energy-intensive industry in Germany and Italy.

Today is April 11, 2022. In March, until April 1, the "leader of the greatest power" set an ultimatum - "whoever does not pay in rubles from April 1, the shipment of gas / oil will be stopped. I said so, I am the greatest ruler!" . Can someone tell without a smirk how the "greatest new Fuhrer" brought the whole world to its knees and how his ultimatum was implemented? And tell us what else do you think the "greatest ruler" will take in the next steps, who today brought the "greatest economy" to a financial default! Smiley
I will answer you here because you made your topic about the Russian "default" self-moderated. The snn article you link to is bullshit and premature ejaculation. Russia has more than enough money to pay all its debts immediately and in full. But the West needs Russia to declare a technical default in order not only to freeze the $300 billion of the Russian Central Bank, but also to expropriate them. This is the most common theft and robbery, the West issued a "black mark" to itself and undermined confidence in the dollar and the euro (as well as in the Japanese yen, the British pound and even the Swiss franc). Further, in essence, the due date for the payment, which could not be met due to the freezing of funds, was April 5th. After that, there is a month of grace period until May 5th. After that, creditors can present for default, but a quorum must take place, which must still be collected, which is technically not easy to do. Further, if the quorum of creditors still meets, the rating agency must declare a technical default. It is not clear which rating agency will be able to do this, they all stopped working with Russia due to sanctions. Then there will be a trial, because Russia has payments in its hands confirming that it paid its obligations in good faith on time, but the bank did not process these payments due to sanctions. And only then will there be a real technical default, and Russia will lose access to the external borrowing market, which it has already lost due to sanctions.

Let's have your next weekly package of sanctions, Russia puts them in a package with packages. Grin



Thanks for the answer. To begin with, self-moderation is evil for you? Do you think I will delete objectionable posts? I'm willing to give my word that, theoretically, only posts that are offensive or violate forum rules can be removed. If you want - if suddenly it comes to deleting posts - I will collect them in one post for "conservation". In a word, do not be afraid - we have democracy and not Russian totalitarianism with total control of everyone and everything Smiley

Well, on topic:

"The snn article you link to is nonsense and premature ejaculation." - this is just YOUR thought, but also far from reality. Few people believe in fairy tales about the fact that "Russia is a great power" for a long time. This is a country of a terrorist - yes, this is a country of a criminal - yes, a country of a thief - yes. But not great Smiley And she has as much money left as she has left. But at the same time, she has obligations, she has a need to wage a losing war in Ukraine, with huge losses and costs. And there is a desire to continue to violate the accepted international obligations, laws, agreements. Regarding the blocking of funds, these are sanctions in response to the annexation of a part of the territory of an independent country, as well as the unleashing of a terrorist war on the territory of Ukraine, by the way, the security of which was Russia itself. Sanctions do not contradict any norms and laws - if this is not the case, your arguments and references to the legislative framework. Moreover, you forgot one nuance - most of the blocked funds will be transferred to funds to compensate Ukraine for the damage caused by Russia as an aggressor.

So I'm sure we will soon see a further collapse of the "strongest economy, the greatest power", which is actually an empty shell and whose statements are empty words Smiley

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Thanks for the answer. To begin with, self-moderation is evil for you? Do you think I will delete objectionable posts? I'm willing to give my word that, theoretically, only posts that are offensive or violate forum rules can be removed. If you want - if suddenly it comes to deleting posts - I will collect them in one post for "conservation". In a word, do not be afraid - we have democracy and not Russian totalitarianism with total control of everyone and everything Smiley
Why make a topic self-moderated, you don't trust the qualifications of moderators? I avoid posting in self-moderated topics, especially when the author is actively broadcasting a position other than neutral. Your position is definitely anti-Russian, it can be seen from your posts.

So I'm sure we will soon see a further collapse of the "strongest economy, the greatest power", which is actually an empty shell and whose statements are empty words Smiley
You don't need a PhD in economics to understand one simple thing. With all the desire, it is very difficult to go bankrupt, having a sharply positive foreign trade balance and a planned budget surplus. When you earn more than you spend, you don't have to worry about getting a margin call. This is a basic truth in the economy, something that you can reliably rely on and this soil will never leave you from under your feet. Your neighbor, who skillfully uses credit leverage and has a planned deficit budget, is likely to have a higher standard of living, he will have a newer and more modern car, a more spacious house in a more prestigious area, but in case of reputation problems and stains on his credit history - he will start in trouble, from which he can lose both the car and the house. But when you honestly earned yourself a car and a house, and paid for them in full, you can afford to give a damn about your credit history and not become a homeless pedestrian. Think about it at your leisure.

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Thanks for the answer. To begin with, self-moderation is evil for you? Do you think I will delete objectionable posts? I'm willing to give my word that, theoretically, only posts that are offensive or violate forum rules can be removed. If you want - if suddenly it comes to deleting posts - I will collect them in one post for "conservation". In a word, do not be afraid - we have democracy and not Russian totalitarianism with total control of everyone and everything Smiley
Why make a topic self-moderated, you don't trust the qualifications of moderators? I avoid posting in self-moderated topics, especially when the author is actively broadcasting a position other than neutral. Your position is definitely anti-Russian, it can be seen from your posts.


So I'm sure we will soon see a further collapse of the "strongest economy, the greatest power", which is actually an empty shell and whose statements are empty words Smiley
You don't need a PhD in economics to understand one simple thing. With all the desire, it is very difficult to go bankrupt, having a sharply positive foreign trade balance and a planned budget surplus. When you earn more than you spend, you don't have to worry about getting a margin call. This is a basic truth in the economy, something that you can reliably rely on and this soil will never leave you from under your feet. Your neighbor, who skillfully uses credit leverage and has a planned deficit budget, is likely to have a higher standard of living, he will have a newer and more modern car, a more spacious house in a more prestigious area, but in case of reputation problems and stains on his credit history - he will start in trouble, from which he can lose both the car and the house. But when you honestly earned yourself a car and a house, and paid for them in full, you can afford to give a damn about your credit history and not become a homeless pedestrian. Think about it at your leisure.


As practice shows, apologists for the Russian world often turn the dialogue into a farce and turn to primitive insults! So the moderation itself is exclusively for this. And your right to like or not like this format. It is your right !

About the second part. The example you gave - absolutely agree with you! Everything is as you say! Having more income than expenses is a great indicator!
Here's just a nuance - what does this situation have to do with today's Russia? Russia has a huge internal deficit, Russia has huge spending on war, Russia has accumulated huge liabilities in recent years, Russia has absolutely real losses in the hydrocarbon market, and, accordingly, a tremendous decrease in revenue. Tell me - and in such a situation, what kind of stability and prospects can we talk about? Let's just be realists and talk about real events and facts, and everything will fall into place!

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Thanks for the answer. To begin with, self-moderation is evil for you? Do you think I will delete objectionable posts? I'm willing to give my word that, theoretically, only posts that are offensive or violate forum rules can be removed. If you want - if suddenly it comes to deleting posts - I will collect them in one post for "conservation". In a word, do not be afraid - we have democracy and not Russian totalitarianism with total control of everyone and everything Smiley
Why make a topic self-moderated, you don't trust the qualifications of moderators? I avoid posting in self-moderated topics, especially when the author is actively broadcasting a position other than neutral. Your position is definitely anti-Russian, it can be seen from your posts.


So I'm sure we will soon see a further collapse of the "strongest economy, the greatest power", which is actually an empty shell and whose statements are empty words Smiley
You don't need a PhD in economics to understand one simple thing. With all the desire, it is very difficult to go bankrupt, having a sharply positive foreign trade balance and a planned budget surplus. When you earn more than you spend, you don't have to worry about getting a margin call. This is a basic truth in the economy, something that you can reliably rely on and this soil will never leave you from under your feet. Your neighbor, who skillfully uses credit leverage and has a planned deficit budget, is likely to have a higher standard of living, he will have a newer and more modern car, a more spacious house in a more prestigious area, but in case of reputation problems and stains on his credit history - he will start in trouble, from which he can lose both the car and the house. But when you honestly earned yourself a car and a house, and paid for them in full, you can afford to give a damn about your credit history and not become a homeless pedestrian. Think about it at your leisure.


As practice shows, apologists for the Russian world often turn the dialogue into a farce and turn to primitive insults! So the moderation itself is exclusively for this. And your right to like or not like this format. It is your right !

About the second part. The example you gave - absolutely agree with you! Everything is as you say! Having more income than expenses is a great indicator!
Here's just a nuance - what does this situation have to do with today's Russia? Russia has a huge internal deficit, Russia has huge spending on war, Russia has accumulated huge liabilities in recent years, Russia has absolutely real losses in the hydrocarbon market, and, accordingly, a tremendous decrease in revenue. Tell me - and in such a situation, what kind of stability and prospects can we talk about? Let's just be realists and talk about real events and facts, and everything will fall into place!


This characteristic can be given to any country in the world. I'm surprised that you just wrote about Russia. Do you really not consider this country great? Difficult times always happen, but we know history and understand that in such circumstances countries are forced to change their usual path and become only stronger. I am sure that Russia will cope with all the difficulties in the near future.

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