Pay in rubles or have your gas shut off by April

[Sithara007]

Cutting off trade with russia is like jumping in the deep dark well. I am not able to understand. How EU decided to put so many sanctions on Russia - being well aware that they are their oil and gas suppliers and there is no alternative to it. Now another trouble is coming. Let's see how EU comes out of it.

Here in India, we are suffering from the consequences of the war that is being waged thousands of kilometers away from our borders. The government today reduced taxes on diesel and gasoline to make them more affordable to the common people. But that also means that tax rates need to be increased in other domains. Some of the oil and gas supplies are now coming from Russia at discounted rates, but they make up only a small portion of the overall imports. People in my country are being made scapegoats. 

[Desmong]

Cutting off trade with russia is like jumping in the deep dark well. I am not able to understand. How EU decided to put so many sanctions on Russia - being well aware that they are their oil and gas suppliers and there is no alternative to it. Now another trouble is coming. Let's see how EU comes out of it.

Here in India, we are suffering from the consequences of the war that is being waged thousands of kilometers away from our borders. The government today reduced taxes on diesel and gasoline to make them more affordable to the common people. But that also means that tax rates need to be increased in other domains. Some of the oil and gas supplies are now coming from Russia at discounted rates, but they make up only a small portion of the overall imports. People in my country are being made scapegoats. 

Yes, the war had really affect so many countries especially the European Union that is made up of countries that depends much on the oil and gas from Russia. People have started seeing the reason why the war needs to be stopped because many citizens can not afford the price of gases this time around. If the war continues, then it will have effect on most countries that depends on Russia for raw materials and gas supplies.

[Sithara007]

Yes, the war had really affect so many countries especially the European Union that is made up of countries that depends much on the oil and gas from Russia. People have started seeing the reason why the war needs to be stopped because many citizens can not afford the price of gases this time around. If the war continues, then it will have effect on most countries that depends on Russia for raw materials and gas supplies.

It is not just affecting the countries that are dependent on imports from Russia. India gets most of it's oil and gas from the middle east. But the embargo on Russia has resulted in a huge spike in oil and gas prices and therefore we are suffering from it. Central bank has increased it's repo rate and suddenly the EMIs have become more expensive. Trade deficit is widening to unsustainable levels, and inflation rate is skyrocketing. I would rather blame the US and EU, for their stupid sanctions and embargoes. Rather than hurting Russia, these sanctions have hurt people like me.

[Naficopa]

Cutting off trade with russia is like jumping in the deep dark well. I am not able to understand. How EU decided to put so many sanctions on Russia - being well aware that they are their oil and gas suppliers and there is no alternative to it. Now another trouble is coming. Let's see how EU comes out of it.

Here in India, we are suffering from the consequences of the war that is being waged thousands of kilometers away from our borders. The government today reduced taxes on diesel and gasoline to make them more affordable to the common people. But that also means that tax rates need to be increased in other domains. Some of the oil and gas supplies are now coming from Russia at discounted rates, but they make up only a small portion of the overall imports. People in my country are being made scapegoats. 

@Sithara007 - I read your comments everyday. I have read and heard in news that INDIA purchase oil and gas from Russia. But when Pakistan tried to purchase oil and gas from Russia we saw serious consequences. And out elected government was toppled. We are in political and economic turmoil.

[fauzan Ichsan]

Cutting off trade with russia is like jumping in the deep dark well. I am not able to understand. How EU decided to put so many sanctions on Russia - being well aware that they are their oil and gas suppliers and there is no alternative to it. Now another trouble is coming. Let's see how EU comes out of it.

Here in India, we are suffering from the consequences of the war that is being waged thousands of kilometers away from our borders. The government today reduced taxes on diesel and gasoline to make them more affordable to the common people. But that also means that tax rates need to be increased in other domains. Some of the oil and gas supplies are now coming from Russia at discounted rates, but they make up only a small portion of the overall imports. People in my country are being made scapegoats. 

@Sithara007 - I read your comments everyday. I have read and heard in news that INDIA purchase oil and gas from Russia. But when Pakistan tried to purchase oil and gas from Russia we saw serious consequences. And out elected government was toppled. We are in political and economic turmoil.

rights, political and economic turmoil. Indeed, from the start, politics and economics seemed inseparable, because they were loaded with government interests. may be a temporary problem for Russia, with their reduced oil exports, but for countries importing oil from Russia, of course this is a serious problem, of course the problem of inflation in their country is inevitable. therefore the weak will eventually follow the will of the key holder

[rahmatrf331]

Cutting off trade with russia is like jumping in the deep dark well. I am not able to understand. How EU decided to put so many sanctions on Russia - being well aware that they are their oil and gas suppliers and there is no alternative to it. Now another trouble is coming. Let's see how EU comes out of it.

Here in India, we are suffering from the consequences of the war that is being waged thousands of kilometers away from our borders. The government today reduced taxes on diesel and gasoline to make them more affordable to the common people. But that also means that tax rates need to be increased in other domains. Some of the oil and gas supplies are now coming from Russia at discounted rates, but they make up only a small portion of the overall imports. People in my country are being made scapegoats. 

@Sithara007 - I read your comments everyday. I have read and heard in news that INDIA purchase oil and gas from Russia. But when Pakistan tried to purchase oil and gas from Russia we saw serious consequences. And out elected government was toppled. We are in political and economic turmoil.

rights, political and economic turmoil. Indeed, from the start, politics and economics seemed inseparable, because they were loaded with government interests. may be a temporary problem for Russia, with their reduced oil exports, but for countries importing oil from Russia, of course this is a serious problem, of course the problem of inflation in their country is inevitable. therefore the weak will eventually follow the will of the key holder

seems like a suicide weapon in the political economy between Russia and the West. Western countries are too sure to destroy Russia but do not realize that all their oil and gas needs are in Russian hands. western countries have received criticism from russia to get oil must pay in rubles indirectly they have supported the russian economy by destroying its own economy. really confusing.

[Naficopa]

seems like a suicide weapon in the political economy between Russia and the West. Western countries are too sure to destroy Russia but do not realize that all their oil and gas needs are in Russian hands. western countries have received criticism from russia to get oil must pay in rubles indirectly they have supported the russian economy by destroying its own economy. really confusing.

That the point I also mentioned - they EU are putting so much sanction on Russia on the request of US. Are they not being aware that they need oil from Russia.
The world need oil and gas no matter what but sanction over sanction to destabilize Russia - now the trouble is coming - let's see how the EU reacts.

[Theones]

Russia has finally reached a non negotiable position due to sanctions, and it no longer afford to coexist with current world order. It need to protest and hurt others to save its own interest. This is a complex geopolitics and Europe and US are equally culpable for current situation as Russia.

No that is not correct. The countries which are trading oil and gas from Russia have no quick alternative. They have to negotiate with Russia.
SOme of the countries which did not interfere in Russian Ukraine war - Russia did not cut off the oil supply and they are going good. I think it is unnecessary for other countries to jump into the war. They should try to convince both countries to hold dialogue and find solution.

[be.open]

Bulgaria will hold talks with the European Commission in the coming days and discuss with its representatives Russia's demand to pay for gas in rubles lol.

Let me remind you a month ago, Bulgaria and Poland refused to pay for gas under the new scheme, and Gazprom stopped gas supplies to these countries.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 - I read your comments everyday. I have read and heard in news that INDIA purchase oil and gas from Russia. But when Pakistan tried to purchase oil and gas from Russia we saw serious consequences. And out elected government was toppled. We are in political and economic turmoil.

Well.. it is not that simple. First of all, the Indian government has avoided direct confrontation with the US administration. While it is true that the share of Russian oil imports jumped from 1% to 15% during the last few months, it still represents a small portion of all the crude oil that is imported to India. Iraq remains the top supplier. And secondly, in order to appease the American administration the Indian government cancelled a few defense deals with Russia. Essentially, the government is walking on a thin line with little room for further maneuverability. And at the same time, they are bargaining hard with both the sides.

[DrBeer]

Bulgaria will hold talks with the European Commission in the coming days and discuss with its representatives Russia's demand to pay for gas in rubles lol.

Let me remind you a month ago, Bulgaria and Poland refused to pay for gas under the new scheme, and Gazprom stopped gas supplies to these countries.

And why did you again pull out a piece from the interview, passing it off as the main essence, moreover, as the main message? Don't believe? Let's compare what you put in the headline and what is actually?
You write: "In the coming days, Bulgaria will hold talks with the European Commission and discuss with its representatives Russia's demand to pay for gas in rubles"
The article, in fact, is called "Can Bulgaria also pay for Russian gas in rubles?".
There is a difference, right? And now I will briefly retell what the interview itself is about. This is where it gets even more interesting!

And so - what is it all about?
And it’s about the fact that reporters are interested in the opinion of the Minister of Energy, on such a question (journalists ask this question) - if Germany and Italy pay for gas in rubles (as the Kremlin terrorist demands in hysterics since April 1), then what should be the position Bulgaria, Poland and other countries that adhere to the legal side and comply with the terms of the contract, and not someone else's fantasy.
To which the minister replies - that the question is good, and it will be voiced at the level of the European Commission (which is categorically against fulfilling the idiotic demands of the global, including economic, terrorist). The Minister also notes that yes, the level of solidarity should be maximum, and if there are exceptions, this should be discussed. At the same time, the minister said that Gazprom uses gas supplies "as a political tool for pressure", and "the most unpleasant thing is that he (Gazprom) is an unpredictable partner."
And to the question of journalists "Why YOU SAY that Russia wants to use Gazprom as a weapon to destabilize Bulgaria", he answered bluntly - "because, obviously, she has an interest in this. This is my interpretation of what is happening"

Also, very lol (by the way, why did you decide to skip it? ), he told that at the beginning of June tankers with liquefied gas from the USA ALREADY ARRIVAL, and a contract was signed with the USA where the price of gas is BETTER than the price from Gazprom! This is real lol!

[be.open]

Bulgaria will hold talks with the European Commission in the coming days and discuss with its representatives Russia's demand to pay for gas in rubles lol.

Let me remind you a month ago, Bulgaria and Poland refused to pay for gas under the new scheme, and Gazprom stopped gas supplies to these countries.

And why did you again pull out a piece from the interview, passing it off as the main essence, moreover, as the main message? Don't believe? Let's compare what you put in the headline and what is actually?
You write: "In the coming days, Bulgaria will hold talks with the European Commission and discuss with its representatives Russia's demand to pay for gas in rubles"
The article, in fact, is called "Can Bulgaria also pay for Russian gas in rubles?".
There is a difference, right? And now I will briefly retell what the interview itself is about. This is where it gets even more interesting!

And so - what is it all about?
And it’s about the fact that reporters are interested in the opinion of the Minister of Energy, on such a question (journalists ask this question) - if Germany and Italy pay for gas in rubles (as the Kremlin terrorist demands in hysterics since April 1), then what should be the position Bulgaria, Poland and other countries that adhere to the legal side and comply with the terms of the contract, and not someone else's fantasy.
To which the minister replies - that the question is good, and it will be voiced at the level of the European Commission (which is categorically against fulfilling the idiotic demands of the global, including economic, terrorist). The Minister also notes that yes, the level of solidarity should be maximum, and if there are exceptions, this should be discussed. At the same time, the minister said that Gazprom uses gas supplies "as a political tool for pressure", and "the most unpleasant thing is that he (Gazprom) is an unpredictable partner."
And to the question of journalists "Why YOU SAY that Russia wants to use Gazprom as a weapon to destabilize Bulgaria", he answered bluntly - "because, obviously, she has an interest in this. This is my interpretation of what is happening"

Also, very lol (by the way, why did you decide to skip it? ), he told that at the beginning of June tankers with liquefied gas from the USA ALREADY ARRIVAL, and a contract was signed with the USA where the price of gas is BETTER than the price from Gazprom! This is real lol!

I'm laughing from the very fact and from the posing of the question. If everything has already been decided in Bulgaria, they have abandoned Russian gas and even found a more profitable option on the side - why discuss with the European Commission the issue of paying for Russian gas in rubles?

[DrBeer]

@Sithara007 - I read your comments everyday. I have read and heard in news that INDIA purchase oil and gas from Russia. But when Pakistan tried to purchase oil and gas from Russia we saw serious consequences. And out elected government was toppled. We are in political and economic turmoil.

Well.. it is not that simple. First of all, the Indian government has avoided direct confrontation with the US administration. While it is true that the share of Russian oil imports jumped from 1% to 15% during the last few months, it still represents a small portion of all the crude oil that is imported to India. Iraq remains the top supplier. And secondly, in order to appease the American administration the Indian government cancelled a few defense deals with Russia. Essentially, the government is walking on a thin line with little room for further maneuverability. And at the same time, they are bargaining hard with both the sides.

To "satisfy the United States" broke "several contracts"? And then explain: the contract for the development and implementation of the 5th generation aircraft, for what reason was it closed? And for the development of the IL-214 aircraft? And the contract for the supply of helicopters?
I will remind you!
The big picture is that India is the largest importer of Russian weapons. But around 2018 (following the results of failed projects with Russia), a systemic failure and replacement of suppliers began. for example, in 2018, the export of weapons from Russia accounted for approximately 80% of the total. Today - about 35% with a decreasing trend.
And some historical facts.

2017 - Russia and India suspended the process of joint work on the project of the Il-214 multi-purpose transport aircraft, which was expected to replace the obsolete An-12 aircraft in the Indian forces. The project started in 2000. By 2017, it turned out that the Russian side, by 2017, had not even developed a prototype! "Satisfied with the USA"?

2018 - India abandons the MIG-29 due to constant breakdowns, delays in the supply of components, general problems with the maintenance of this model, and most importantly, constant violations of the deadlines for the execution of work by the Russian side. Oh yes - just for information - "Most of the problems were observed with the power plant, as a result of which, since February 2010, 40 engines have been withdrawn from service due to factory defects." Wow, what an insidious USA?!

2021 - The Indian side suspended participation in the program to create the first Indian fifth generation fighter FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) based on the Russian Su-57. The reason is the constant violation of deadlines, failure to fulfill / failure to achieve the set targets, lack of visible prospects for this model.

2022 - India refused to buy Russian Mi-17V5 helicopters. the rejection of the deal has nothing to do with the war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine. Its reason was the desire of local authorities to support the national program to replace imported products with local ones.
“A decision was made to close the deal. The government explained that the decision was made as part of supporting the program for the production of local medium-lift helicopters long before the start of the war in Ukraine,” the report says.

[Pesona1]

Putin has threatened so called unfriendly states to pay in rubles or have its gas supply shut off. It has said it doesn't buy things for free and so isn't going to charitable with its energy.
Europe has kicked against this with Germany saying its being blackmailed by this move. What other choice does Europe has with Russia alone selling about 40% of energy to the world.

At first Europe thought that if they imposed sanctions on Russia, it would weaken Russia, but without them realizing it, the sanctions had backfired on Europe itself because their dependence on gas from Russia was quite large so far,I think it's a pretty awesome trick that putin used to against europe by using the ruble as a transaction tool in the purchase of gas, if Europe does not want to do as Russia says of course the European economy will experience a bad impact, especially the industry due to lack of gas supply.

[Sithara007]

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2022 - India refused to buy Russian Mi-17V5 helicopters. the rejection of the deal has nothing to do with the war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine. Its reason was the desire of local authorities to support the national program to replace imported products with local ones.
“A decision was made to close the deal. The government explained that the decision was made as part of supporting the program for the production of local medium-lift helicopters long before the start of the war in Ukraine,” the report says.

As I mentioned in my post, the war may not have anything to do with the decision from Indian government to cancel this deal. But it is being presented to the Americans as India's reaction to the war in Ukraine. India is a strategic partner for both the US and Russia. The Americans can't pressurize India as much as they do with Pakistan. The latter is overdependent on military aid from the US, while India's case is not like that. BTW, for the last decade or so, the Indian government has been trying to replace the imported helicopters with the locally manufactured ones. But the fact is that the ones manufactured by the HAL (Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) can't compete with the imported products.

[Joshapat]

Now Russia is increasingly serious to pressure Europe to follow the rules, gas is an important issue because Russia sees European dependence on gas and of course to replace the supply of gas supply takes a long time, if there is no gas then it is certain that Europe suffered a greater loss.

[DrBeer]

I'm laughing from the very fact and from the posing of the question. If everything has already been decided in Bulgaria, they have abandoned Russian gas and even found a more profitable option on the side - why discuss with the European Commission the issue of paying for Russian gas in rubles?

Those. you yourself gave the material, took one phrase out of context, and now you don’t understand what it is for?
Well what can I say ? Once again, recount the entire article, carefully, and understand what it is about? If you do not pull this sentence out of the entire article, but read everything in full, and remember who asks whom questions and who answers whom, then the situation will become much clearer! Honestly ! Just carefully read the article you provided
But if it's difficult, then I'll explain, it's not difficult for me The question is not about Bulgaria paying terrorists gas in rubles. The question is why some EU members allow themselves to think that they may not adhere to the laws and agreements adopted for EU members, and how others should react to this.

[DrBeer]

Putin has threatened so called unfriendly states to pay in rubles or have its gas supply shut off. It has said it doesn't buy things for free and so isn't going to charitable with its energy.
Europe has kicked against this with Germany saying its being blackmailed by this move. What other choice does Europe has with Russia alone selling about 40% of energy to the world.

At first Europe thought that if they imposed sanctions on Russia, it would weaken Russia, but without them realizing it, the sanctions had backfired on Europe itself because their dependence on gas from Russia was quite large so far,I think it's a pretty awesome trick that putin used to against europe by using the ruble as a transaction tool in the purchase of gas, if Europe does not want to do as Russia says of course the European economy will experience a bad impact, especially the industry due to lack of gas supply.

You just took and voiced the "final fanfare of the opera", without voicing it all
The story begins much earlier - from the moment when the pro-Kremlin lobby created the most comfortable conditions for the monopolization of the EU market by Russian gas. By the way, we must pay tribute to the more conscientious participants - not everyone succumbed to their pressure or influence.
So. Today, in connection with the terrorist war, the European Kremlin gas lobby has nowhere to go - it is necessary to impose sanctions against terrorists. On the other hand, the Kremlin is waving at them compromising evidence or wads of money, which they promise not to put in the pockets of the lobby again. Therefore, an internal conflict begins. If we take the EU, then today Germany and Italy turned out to be the most dependent on the Kremlin's gas, in terms of the volumes of gas needed to meet their needs. Other consumers either do not have such dependence, or consume volumes that can be easily replaced by alternative supplies. And of course, Germany and Italy will have to go through some kind of crisis, but this is a retribution for lobbying the interests of criminal regimes, this is expected...

[Sithara007]

Now Russia is increasingly serious to pressure Europe to follow the rules, gas is an important issue because Russia sees European dependence on gas and of course to replace the supply of gas supply takes a long time, if there is no gas then it is certain that Europe suffered a greater loss.

I don't need to present tons of evidence to support this. Just one is enough. The Dutch TTF Natural Gas prices have been around 30% higher than the LNG Japan/Korea Marker for the last few weeks. Before the war, East Asian prices used to be higher than the Dutch hub prices. The reason is that stupid Europeans are now importing gas from half way around the globe and still can't replace all the pipeline gas that is being provided by Russia. The competitive advantage German heavy industries had over their Japanese competitors have now vanished in to thin air.

[DrBeer]

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2022 - India refused to buy Russian Mi-17V5 helicopters. the rejection of the deal has nothing to do with the war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine. Its reason was the desire of local authorities to support the national program to replace imported products with local ones.
“A decision was made to close the deal. The government explained that the decision was made as part of supporting the program for the production of local medium-lift helicopters long before the start of the war in Ukraine,” the report says.

As I mentioned in my post, the war may not have anything to do with the decision from Indian government to cancel this deal. But it is being presented to the Americans as India's reaction to the war in Ukraine. India is a strategic partner for both the US and Russia. The Americans can't pressurize India as much as they do with Pakistan. The latter is overdependent on military aid from the US, while India's case is not like that. BTW, for the last decade or so, the Indian government has been trying to replace the imported helicopters with the locally manufactured ones. But the fact is that the ones manufactured by the HAL (Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) can't compete with the imported products.

How it is presented to the Americans, or to a housemate, or in the market - everyone is free to voice it as he likes. I just showed that the problem of low-quality Russian weapons is in no way connected with any requirements of third parties, but is of a long-standing and systemic nature. Plus, I don’t think that India is a country where the US will tell it what to do, India is not a technologically backward country with a resource economy, but a very significant part of the world economy, which has its own regional and global interests. And what is important - India has quite a significant weight in the world economy and is actively developing. The issue of developing your own helicopter platform is a matter of not a single decade, this is the development of entire sectors of the economy, technologies, this cannot be done quickly and immediately with high quality. Therefore, it is quite expected that after signing the development program tomorrow you will not receive your helicopter!