PRIMEDICE weak self-exclusion system

[Quidat]

You should have self-control while playing gambling.

It's not easy to say and do it if ytu are addicted to gambling since you don't have self control seeking professional psychiatrist would be a big help in my opinion and I agree with the OP I think all gambling site not just Primedice should strengthen their self-exclusion system since if it is strong enough the OP wouldn't be able to create an account easily and play again in Primedice.

ya.ya.yo!

That's the problem. Without good self-control, someone will come back and create a new account if he can't log in to the site, deposit more money, and play again.
Maybe Primedice can block IP or anything related to @OP so @OP can't create a new account just to gamble.
It could be done but without @OP's self-control, it would be pointless.
@OP will try again and he will even try on other sites.
If this is the case, which is to blame?

Even if he's already been IP blocked but if hes that addicted and with the current number of gambling platforms or sites in the market then it is likely still ending up on the same scenario
on which he would really be depositing once again the repeat the overall the same problem and blaming time with the site that he would get involved with which is basically
and obviously showing that gambling addiction is something that should really took the blame and not the site nor the service that it do gives.

[Fatunad]

You should have self-control while playing gambling.

It's not easy to say and do it if ytu are addicted to gambling since you don't have self control seeking professional psychiatrist would be a big help in my opinion and I agree with the OP I think all gambling site not just Primedice should strengthen their self-exclusion system since if it is strong enough the OP wouldn't be able to create an account easily and play again in Primedice.

ya.ya.yo!

That's the problem. Without good self-control, someone will come back and create a new account if he can't log in to the site, deposit more money, and play again.
Maybe Primedice can block IP or anything related to @OP so @OP can't create a new account just to gamble.
It could be done but without @OP's self-control, it would be pointless.
@OP will try again and he will even try on other sites.
If this is the case, which is to blame?

Even if he's already been IP blocked but if hes that addicted and with the current number of gambling platforms or sites in the market then it is likely still ending up on the same scenario
on which he would really be depositing once again the repeat the overall the same problem and blaming time with the site that he would get involved with which is basically
and obviously showing that gambling addiction is something that should really took the blame and not the site nor the service that it do gives.

Addiction is something that you cant get rid off until you are the ones who are really that willing to fight it off and make yourself disciplined to avoid it as much as you can.It wont really be something simple because it would really be needing some help neither from your loved ones or seek some professional help.

Self exclusion feature is just an add up but its not totally that an effective way on making yourself avoid on playing again.Its true that no one should really took the blame but only you
since you are the ones who do make out such actions.

[Maus0728]

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Even if he's already been IP blocked but if hes that addicted and with the current number of gambling platforms or sites in the market then it is likely still ending up on the same scenario
on which he would really be depositing once again the repeat the overall the same problem and blaming time with the site that he would get involved with which is basically
and obviously showing that gambling addiction is something that should really took the blame and not the site nor the service that it do gives.

I don't think if you guys knows this but there's a Self-exclusion program from the Curacao Gambling Contract board^[1] in which is part of their Responsible Gaming section -- whereas you can fill a form that includes your personal information^[2]. I just don't think if filling up such form can be used by online gambling platforms that uses Curacao licenses. If it were to be accepted and the name and any contact information (even the credit card number) can be banned on the back end of any chosen platforms (even all if you would write a personal letter to the platform's support with your self-exclusion form attached). @OP, I think this is the way to self-exclude / ban you from accessing an account from such websites (that obviously gets your data or KYC upon registering/depositing). Nevertheless, most platforms also uses KYC. If they know the IP of the OP and the OP dares to register again, the KYC and the aforementioned form can help recognize the OP.

[1] - https://www.gamingcontrolcuracao.org/responsible-gaming
[2] - https://gamingcontrol.spin-cdn.com/media/pdf_files/20191108_eng_self_exclusion_formulier_final_sep_2019.pdf

[Bitinity]

I am new to the self-exclusion system, and I had no idea that we could use it to be forced to stop us from playing. However, with this system, it is extremely easy to circumvent if we are truly eager to play. I know some of us will say it is useful, but it isn't permanent because you will be unbanned later on, so the best and most permanent solution to this is within yourself; you must exercise self-control or seek assistance from others if this is having a negative impact on your life.

As long as I know there are 2 type of self-exclusion. First is a temporary and the 2nd one is permanent self-exclusion. If he asked the permanent one, no way that his account is unbanned but of course he can create a new account with all the possible ways if he cant control himself. Using the self-exclusion feature is a good start already but it should be followed up by our real action if we want to stop completely from gambling. I was a very active gambler for few years, but I can reduce my gambling activity step by step and I believe that I will be able to stop it completely in the future. I did not even use self-exclusion feature but I started it with my own will. Although I still access my gambling accounts but I can push myself to not deposit and play as what I used to do few years back.

[coin-investor]

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

No that is not the best way to stop gambling it's one of the ways but never the best way, as long as you have that urge you could be gambling on other casinos, the problem is the urge so you have to address the urge fix it first you can take a vacation online for one week if it is possible or talk to a professional exclusion will not fix anything, you will still have the urge, you will be blaming the casino like what you're doing right now.

[traderethereum]

You should have self-control while playing gambling.

It's not easy to say and do it if ytu are addicted to gambling since you don't have self control seeking professional psychiatrist would be a big help in my opinion and I agree with the OP I think all gambling site not just Primedice should strengthen their self-exclusion system since if it is strong enough the OP wouldn't be able to create an account easily and play again in Primedice.

ya.ya.yo!

That's the problem. Without good self-control, someone will come back and create a new account if he can't log in to the site, deposit more money, and play again.
Maybe Primedice can block IP or anything related to @OP so @OP can't create a new account just to gamble.
It could be done but without @OP's self-control, it would be pointless.
@OP will try again and he will even try on other sites.
If this is the case, which is to blame?

Even if he's already been IP blocked but if hes that addicted and with the current number of gambling platforms or sites in the market then it is likely still ending up on the same scenario
on which he would really be depositing once again the repeat the overall the same problem and blaming time with the site that he would get involved with which is basically
and obviously showing that gambling addiction is something that should really took the blame and not the site nor the service that it do gives.

Yeah, when a person is addicted to gambling, he will do everything he can to keep playing on that site and depositing money.
It is very hard to admit that we are addicted to gambling, let alone be honest with people close to us, because we will hurt their feelings.
Only people who have a strong intention to quit gambling can do it, while others will find it difficult.
Gambling sites can provide various ways to block someone addicted to gambling but that will come back to the addicted person and how he intends to reduce or overcome his addiction.

[aioc]

This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Greetings to everybody and thanks

If they have strengthened their self-exclusion, how about the possibility that you open a new account in other casinos, weak or strong self-exclusion, will still go down on how you address your gambling addiction.
You admit your gambling addiction problem but you should stop blaming things that you can blame if you really admit your gambling problem, it starts and ends with you, not on things you blame. 

[AicecreaME]

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account, and bet again. this time, i lost 21600 xrp and a bit of some other coins




This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Greetings to everybody and thanks

I think each gambling website has their own policies when it comes with self-exclusion to their players that have gambling problems. Regarding Primedice, I believe they don't really ban the IP adress of the players, but only bans their current account and prohibit them from making a new account. However, the latter would all be depending on self-discipline of the player.

No matter how hard the casinos and gambling website strictly impose and strengthen their system regarding self-exclusion, if the player is addicted so much and don't help themselves, they'll just end up bypassing the system with their own ways. Rehabilitation and counselling are a must if someone wants to be healed from their gambling addiction.

Apart from self-exclusion, a player with gambling problem must address the issue from within to make it possible and effective for long-term.

[Fortify]

You should have self-control while playing gambling.

It's not easy to say and do it if ytu are addicted to gambling since you don't have self control seeking professional psychiatrist would be a big help in my opinion and I agree with the OP I think all gambling site not just Primedice should strengthen their self-exclusion system since if it is strong enough the OP wouldn't be able to create an account easily and play again in Primedice.

ya.ya.yo!

That's the problem. Without good self-control, someone will come back and create a new account if he can't log in to the site, deposit more money, and play again.
Maybe Primedice can block IP or anything related to @OP so @OP can't create a new account just to gamble.
It could be done but without @OP's self-control, it would be pointless.
@OP will try again and he will even try on other sites.
If this is the case, which is to blame?

Even if he's already been IP blocked but if hes that addicted and with the current number of gambling platforms or sites in the market then it is likely still ending up on the same scenario
on which he would really be depositing once again the repeat the overall the same problem and blaming time with the site that he would get involved with which is basically
and obviously showing that gambling addiction is something that should really took the blame and not the site nor the service that it do gives.

While I think every gambling site should have a comprehensive system for self exclusion, someone who has not accepted they have a problem and wants to gamble, will be able to find outlets to take their money. IP bans are not foolproof at all, especially with all the proxies and VPN options out there - unless there is a proper KYC process in place it will be impossible for such a site to enforce this because new accounts can be created almost instantly. Self education can be really important because the odds are so stacked against you in dice type games - there is literally zero skill involved which means you'll never be able to get any advantage over the house that is steadily taking your money and sometimes paying back peanuts.

[Hamphser]

You should have self-control while playing gambling.

It's not easy to say and do it if ytu are addicted to gambling since you don't have self control seeking professional psychiatrist would be a big help in my opinion and I agree with the OP I think all gambling site not just Primedice should strengthen their self-exclusion system since if it is strong enough the OP wouldn't be able to create an account easily and play again in Primedice.

ya.ya.yo!

That's the problem. Without good self-control, someone will come back and create a new account if he can't log in to the site, deposit more money, and play again.
Maybe Primedice can block IP or anything related to @OP so @OP can't create a new account just to gamble.
It could be done but without @OP's self-control, it would be pointless.
@OP will try again and he will even try on other sites.
If this is the case, which is to blame?

Even if he's already been IP blocked but if hes that addicted and with the current number of gambling platforms or sites in the market then it is likely still ending up on the same scenario
on which he would really be depositing once again the repeat the overall the same problem and blaming time with the site that he would get involved with which is basically
and obviously showing that gambling addiction is something that should really took the blame and not the site nor the service that it do gives.

While I think every gambling site should have a comprehensive system for self exclusion, someone who has not accepted they have a problem and wants to gamble, will be able to find outlets to take their money. IP bans are not foolproof at all, especially with all the proxies and VPN options out there - unless there is a proper KYC process in place it will be impossible for such a site to enforce this because new accounts can be created almost instantly. Self education can be really important because the odds are so stacked against you in dice type games - there is literally zero skill involved which means you'll never be able to get any advantage over the house that is steadily taking your money and sometimes paying back peanuts.

You should make yourself realize or be aware on how gambling works and the reality which is attached to it which is something that very common but people do really take it too far thats why they do really expect

or anticipate something on making big money or getting theirselves rich and that what molds them to play or simply being an addicted person.No exclusion would work out no matter how strict it would
be because there are lots of various ways on bypassing exclusion and considering the number of casinos today then you could still simply jump on.

[magneto]

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account, and bet again. this time, i lost 21600 xrp and a bit of some other coins




This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Greetings to everybody and thanks

Unfortunately, this is something that you just have to live with when betting online.

Especially with the proliferation of VPN services, there is really no way that an online casino is going to feasibly do to stop you from betting altogether from any alts.

It's unrealistic, and definitely don't expect to get any money back. Perhaps they can make it stricter through KYC but even that can be exploited in various ways and they will probably cop flack for these procedures anyway.

[shasan]

maybe you can reduce your addiction by playing casinos using not real money like a demo or game from android.

They way you have mention is more harder to avoid gambling. If OP or someone plays free casinos on android then they will be winner (maximum time) and that will inspired more to gambling. Those who are real gambler usually cant avoid gambling until the person has a fund or can borrow fund.

[smyslov]

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

This is a bad alibi no one will tell you that this is the best way to solve your problem, there are hundreds of casinos you can just open an account, don't use the exclusion just mind your problem by asking for help from a professional, the exclusion will not help you because of your flaw, that problem will persist even if you chance casino, it's your behavior that needs to chance.  

[Chato1977]

it is always hard and sad to see when a gambler become addicted and even the gambling site he trusted he can help Him makes it delayed and not even responding.

the exclusion feature is what gamblers trying to depend in times of addiction but if the site itself does not giving us the opportunity .

[Maslate]

it is always hard and sad to see when a gambler become addicted and even the gambling site he trusted he can help Him makes it delayed and not even responding.

the exclusion feature is what gamblers trying to depend in times of addiction but if the site itself does not giving us the opportunity .

It's not necessary if you yourself could control yourself, if you feel you get addicted, a gambling site cannot help you, it should be yoursef making distance from the gambling site so you won't be tempted to play. Do you think if you get yourself self-excluded you will not find a way to gamble? of course you will still find a way because we have plenty of gambling sites in the crypto space.

[goldkingcoiner]

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account, and bet again. this time, i lost 21600 xrp and a bit of some other coins




This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Greetings to everybody and thanks

Hmm... Well that does on one hand seem like a tactic I would use if I were to say, want to commit fraud to get my losings back. But maybe you are telling the truth and you really did ask them to ban you.

The question is, did you ask them to ban your IP? And did you go into the online gambling casino under a different IP?

Because if you answered yes to either of those questions then I doubt you will get your money back. However if you asked them to IP ban you and they did not do that, then you might have a case.

But I am not a lawyer. Get some legal advice if you really want.

[judeafante]

It's not necessary if you yourself could control yourself, if you feel you get addicted, a gambling site cannot help you, it should be yoursef making distance from the gambling site so you won't be tempted to play. Do you think if you get yourself self-excluded you will not find a way to gamble? of course you will still find a way because we have plenty of gambling sites in the crypto space.

That's true people should stop blaming this self-exclusion feature, it's not responsible for your losses. your action is OP doesn't have to create a thread like this, casinos already stated that people should gamble responsibly if you blame self-exclusion which means you have no control and you are not responsible for your action, something that casinos don't expect you to have.

[wildan88]

it is always hard and sad to see when a gambler become addicted and even the gambling site he trusted he can help Him makes it delayed and not even responding.

the exclusion feature is what gamblers trying to depend in times of addiction but if the site itself does not giving us the opportunity .

It is a part to prevent addiction but it doesn't mean this is the solution and should depend on it. I think the best way to stop addiction is rehabilitation, helped by family or professional and I am not sure is there a hotline for gambling addiction?

[ethereumhunter]

it is always hard and sad to see when a gambler become addicted and even the gambling site he trusted he can help Him makes it delayed and not even responding.

the exclusion feature is what gamblers trying to depend in times of addiction but if the site itself does not giving us the opportunity .

It's not necessary if you yourself could control yourself, if you feel you get addicted, a gambling site cannot help you, it should be yoursef making distance from the gambling site so you won't be tempted to play. Do you think if you get yourself self-excluded you will not find a way to gamble? of course you will still find a way because we have plenty of gambling sites in the crypto space.

It is difficult to cure gambling addiction, especially since we have been gambling for too long. It would take a great deal of effort to get rid of the thought of gambling and it seemed he did need some help from someone else. Maybe he needs to associate with other people who have positive activities and are not related to gambling. Hence, he needs to develop positive thoughts that will help him to stop thinking about gambling. It also takes time and if he really puts in the effort, he will surely succeed. It's about how we build a new habit to keep ourselves from thinking about gambling.

[panjul07]

and now here in Primedice in which one of the oldest casino here in crypto, while this is literally your problem as you are addicted, sometimes gambling site don't focus on your exclusion because they knew that you will do the best depositing and playing again, so i think this is both party's problem here , you as an addict and them as late in reactions .

The problem is on the gambler only as he is an addicted gambler who will always find a way to gamble again even if he is blocked by certain casino.
In his case, he asked for self-exclusion and Primedice granted the request but he came back with new account because of his own addiction.
Even if his original IP is blocked too, he can use new IP to create a new account and gamble again.
Logically casino is not responsible for any addiction, but it is good enough if casino has self exclusion system and it shows that the casino cares about their players.
But for sure once casino granted the self-exclusion request from players, they cant do anything more.
Players are those who are responsible for themselves in case of addiction.