Invalid recovery phrase

[redwine49]

I have a paper recovery seed that I found a typo in one of the letters. I used ledger nano wallet and now its broken
The recovery phrases using a length of 24 words and BIP39 word list
I've spent hours trying to find the right one manually. what should i do to make my search easier?

[DaveF]

Take a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214021.0
Should be able to do it fairly quickly if it's just one word.
There are other solutions but The FinderOuter is one of the quicker / easier ones to use.

-Dave

[Charles-Tim]

You can follow the link provided by DaveF, but know that you will need one child private key, child public key or one bitcoin address for it, which is generated by the seed phrase that you are finding the missing word, also you will need the derivation path which is not hard to get:

For derivation path (BIP39)
m/44'/0'/0'/0/0 for legacy, bitcoin addresses that start from 1
m/49'/0'/0'/0/0 for nested segwit, bitcoin addresses that start from 3
m/84'/0'/0'/0/0 for (native) segwit, bitcoin addresses that start from bc1

I have a paper recovery seed that I found a typo in one of the letters.

If you can see the first, the first two or the first three letters that started the missing word, the easier you can guess what the word can be on the BIP39 word list in case you do not have the requirement needed for the tool like your bitcoin address, but at least, you should be able to have one address generated by the wallet I guess.

[nc50lc]

I have a paper recovery seed that I found a typo in one of the letters.
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I've spent hours trying to find the right one manually. what should i do to make my search easier?

Seriously?
One letter typo isn't that complicated to do manually since there are only a few similar words in the BIP39 word list.
Use CTRL+F, then search the typo~ed word's first few characters...

I bet there's more to this than what's stated in the OP like he might have found the correct seed (checksum: ok) but failed to find his balance.

[pooya87]

If it's just a typo you can just use Electrum, while creating a new wallet using an existing seed phrase you start typing in each word and while you enter each letter the UI will show suggestions based on the letters you entered. That way you can easily figure out what the actual word was.
It looks like this:

[redwine49]

Take a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214021.0
Should be able to do it fairly quickly if it's just one word.
There are other solutions but The FinderOuter is one of the quicker / easier ones to use.

-Dave

Thanks for the tips. I'll try that way

You can follow the link provided by DaveF, but know that you will need one child private key, child public key or one bitcoin address for it, which is generated by the seed phrase that you are finding the missing word, also you will need the derivation path which is not hard to get:

For derivation path (BIP39)
m/44'/0'/0'/0/0 for legacy, bitcoin addresses that start from 1
m/49'/0'/0'/0/0 for nested segwit, bitcoin addresses that start from 3
m/84'/0'/0'/0/0 for (native) segwit, bitcoin addresses that start from bc1

I have a paper recovery seed that I found a typo in one of the letters.

If you can see the first, the first two or the first three letters that started the missing word, the easier you can guess what the word can be on the BIP39 word list in case you do not have the requirement needed for the tool like your bitcoin address, but at least, you should be able to have one address generated by the wallet I guess.

I've tried that one. Spent almost 5 hours manually and got nothing but wrong address

Seriously?
One letter typo isn't that complicated to do manually since there are only a few similar words in the BIP39 word list.
Use CTRL+F, then search the typo~ed word's first few characters...

I bet there's more to this than what's stated in the OP like he might have found the correct seed (checksum: ok) but failed to find his balance.

actually found 4 addresses

[hugeblack]

Open your browser and go to ---> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
Click on CRTL+F5 (windows) or any search tool.
Check which part of that word is missing.

If you are sure of all the words are correct and in correct order, lost a letter or two then this option is convenient and easy.
But if you forgot the word completely, finding a word or two won't take long if you use ---> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214021.0 .

[o_e_l_e_o]

How sure are you that it is only one typo? Could it be two or more? Could some of the words be in the wrong order?

Do you know any of the addresses which are holding coins?

If it is just one typo and you know an address, you could fire this into btcrecover (https://btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and solve it within minutes.

[nc50lc]

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actually found 4 addresses

Okay, so there's no missing character in the seed phrase since you already found 4 addresses.
So, the actual issue is finding the correct "derivation path" of the funded address(es).

Because there can't be a typo if you can properly restore the seed phrase with BIP39-supported wallets (it has a checksum).

I used ledger nano wallet and now its broken

Question is, how many Bitcoin accounts did you have in your Ledger Live?
Because aside from the first, every consecutive accounts can't be recovered by using the default derivation path (it needs tweaking).

[Pmalek]

Question is, how many Bitcoin accounts did you have in your Ledger Live?
Because aside from the first, every consecutive accounts can't be recovered by using the default derivation path (it needs tweaking).

Ledger doesn't allow you to generate new receiving addresses until the previously generated ones are funded. However, I have never tried what happens if you attempt to create multiple accounts. Let's say I generate a native segwit account (which would be at the standard derivation path for native segwit), would Ledger Live allow me to create a 2nd, 3rd, 10th native segwit account at different paths with addresses in all of them being unfunded? My logic says, it shouldn't allow you to do that. During synching and account recovery, LL searches the default derivation path and if it doesn't find the 1st account, the search stops. That would mean you can't fund the 3rd account unless the ones created before weren't already funded as well.   

[nc50lc]

Question is, how many Bitcoin accounts did you have in your Ledger Live?
Because aside from the first, every consecutive accounts can't be recovered by using the default derivation path (it needs tweaking).

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Yes, you wont be able to create another account if the previous one is unfunded.
support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404389482641-Add-your-accounts?

The question is for us to find out if he should be restoring the seed with derivation path account level higher than 0,
the "4 addresses" may be from his first or next accounts.

His previous response "found 4 addresses" doesn't make sense as a reply to my previous post so I guess that the seed phrase doesn't have issue;
but he never answered that last question yet.

[redwine49]

Question is, how many Bitcoin accounts did you have in your Ledger Live?
Because aside from the first, every consecutive accounts can't be recovered by using the default derivation path (it needs tweaking).

-snip-

Yes, you wont be able to create another account if the previous one is unfunded.
support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404389482641-Add-your-accounts?

The question is for us to find out if he should be restoring the seed with derivation path account level higher than 0,
the "4 addresses" may be from his first or next accounts.

His previous response "found 4 addresses" doesn't make sense as a reply to my previous post so I guess that the seed phrase doesn't have issue;
but he never answered that last question yet.

as far as i can remember. It's only 1 address, the first address.
It wasn't much that time in 2019 so when my ledger screen is broken, it doesn't matter to me.
last year it became a problem when I couldn't open my wallet. it's not only just bitcoin but some altcoins

[Pmalek]

When you say that you found 1 address or 4 addresses (in your older post), what does that even mean? Found them where, with what?
Since your Nano HW is broken, what software are you using in an attempt to recover your wallet?

Let's get back to the seed word with a typo. Is the whole word typed incorrectly (as in you can't figure out a single letter and what is written), or is one character wrong? Are there some letters of that word that you are 100% certain off and that you can use to figure out the missing character/characters based on those that you know?

[khaled0111]

OP we need more details and you have to be more precise so we can help you. Let's just forget about the other altcoins and focus on recovering your bitcoin wallet for the moment.
First, did you ever receive any bitcoin on your wallet or you just used it for altcoins?
What app are you currently using to recover your wallet? (I suggest using electrum)
You said you recoverd only 4 addresses, that's weird but did you try looking them up on a block explorer to see if any if them ever been used?
When you first created your Ledger wallet, do you remember adding a passphrase to the 24 words generated by Ledger?

[nc50lc]

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His previous response "found 4 addresses" doesn't make sense as a reply to my previous post so I guess that the seed phrase doesn't have issue;
but he never answered that last question yet.

as far as i can remember. It's only 1 address, the first address.
-snip-

Again, you have answered neither of the users' questions because saying "you found 1 or 4 address" doesn't make sense unless you specify how you found them.

But anyways, there is a way to test and try if your seed phrase is invalid for having a wrong character and to find if it has a balance:
You can import it to Electrum by toggling "BIP39 seed" in the option during the restore process.
It will show "BIP39 Checksum: ok" below the seed if it's valid (with very small error margin).

Then in the next window, clicking "Detect Existing Accounts" will prompt Electrum to check the mostly used derivation paths if any of them are funded,
it will display a list if there's more than one funded 'account'.

But take note that it's only for Bitcoin not Altcoins.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I've tried that one. Spent almost 5 hours manually and got nothing but wrong address
...
actually found 4 addresses

The combination of OP's first post and these two statements makes me think that by randomly tinkering with his flawed back up OP has simply found 4 other valid seed phrases which are not his seed phrase.

as far as i can remember. It's only 1 address, the first address.

Do you know this address? If so, then as I said above, just stick your incorrect seed phrase and this address in to btcrecover and it will spit out your correct seed phrase in an hour or two, provided you are correct when you say that only one word is wrong.

[redwine49]

When you say that you found 1 address or 4 addresses (in your older post), what does that even mean? Found them where, with what?
Since your Nano HW is broken, what software are you using in an attempt to recover your wallet?

Let's get back to the seed word with a typo. Is the whole word typed incorrectly (as in you can't figure out a single letter and what is written), or is one character wrong? Are there some letters of that word that you are 100% certain off and that you can use to figure out the missing character/characters based on those that you know?

i mean i found 4 kind of mnemonic word using metamask manually.
no software before i made this post

OP we need more details and you have to be more precise so we can help you. Let's just forget about the other altcoins and focus on recovering your bitcoin wallet for the moment.
First, did you ever receive any bitcoin on your wallet or you just used it for altcoins?
What app are you currently using to recover your wallet? (I suggest using electrum)
You said you recoverd only 4 addresses, that's weird but did you try looking them up on a block explorer to see if any if them ever been used?
When you first created your Ledger wallet, do you remember adding a passphrase to the 24 words generated by Ledger?

as i remember so far i have made some small bitcoin deposits more than 5 times and never spent them + altcoin.
i will corect this one, i only found 4 kind of mnemonic word

Take a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214021.0

i just used this software, it said

There are 24 words in the given mnemonic with 1 missing.
Total number of permutations to check: 2,048
Elapsed time: 00:00:00.0303216
k/s= ∞

and stop there.

[pooya87]

i just used this software, it said

There are 24 words in the given mnemonic with 1 missing.
Total number of permutations to check: 2,048
Elapsed time: 00:00:00.0303216
k/s= ∞

and stop there.

That means one or more of the following is true:
- More than one word in your mnemonic is wrong or missing
- You chose the position of the missing word wrong
- You set a wrong derivation path
- You used a wrong address that doesn't belong to this wallet or isn't at the same derivation path

[redwine49]

i just used this software, it said

There are 24 words in the given mnemonic with 1 missing.
Total number of permutations to check: 2,048
Elapsed time: 00:00:00.0303216
k/s= ∞

and stop there.

That means one or more of the following is true:
- More than one word in your mnemonic is wrong or missing
- You chose the position of the missing word wrong
- You set a wrong derivation path
- You used a wrong address that doesn't belong to this wallet or isn't at the same derivation path

I just check from my software wallet & bitcoin explorer which i sent some bitcoin 3 years ago.
I named it HW coldwallet, it's unlikely if i used the wrong address.

What if i lost 1 word & words in the wrong order ?

[pooya87]

I just check from my software wallet & bitcoin explorer which i sent some bitcoin 3 years ago.
I named it HW coldwallet, it's unlikely if i used the wrong address.

It could be a right address but a wrong derivation path for example m/44'/0'/0'/0/7 instead of m/44'/0'/0'/0/1

What if i lost 1 word & words in the wrong order ?

It depends on how you wrote it down, most of the times wrong order is very unlikely but the position of the missing word is more likely meaning it could be the 6th word missing instead of the 5th.
You can pursue the possibly of wrong order after you exhausted other options since it is a lot harder to recover.