Putin could nuke Ukraine like US nuked Japan

[KingScorpio]

If conventional war in Ukraine becomes to costly and to risky, like it also happened in the pacific,

putin could use Nuclear weapon's on one of more Militarised Cities in Ukraine just like the USA did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

havine a jewish Comedian president that worships the woke racist western left, will make live very risky for Ukrainians,

and it is likely that Putin will get away with it as he can easily blame the United states for Arming Ukraine and for pushing it towards Russia, (war propaganda)

i think this is highly likely if Putin wil not be able to win the war Conventionally, as the russians are not willing to fight high causalty urban war.

[BADecker]

While Putin might have the ability, things are different, now. At the time the US used their nukes on Japan, nobody else had any nukes. Everybody else that believed nukes were real, was scared enough to wet their pants... scared of the US.

The thing the US should have done back then was, under threat of being nuked, taken over the world and forced Democracy on everybody. Democracy has sort of happened around the world, anyway.

[cabron]

While it's not possible that Putin will do that. Dropping a nuke will only make more enemies for Russia and there might be no diplomatic talks anymore. This will just trigger the nuclear power countries to go to war when right now they are just looking away. He is already winning by just choking the gas supply. The skirmishes are what he will do since it's about who is going to last long as sanctions take effect. Putin will not do it, he does have a strategy for everything and thinks of consequences.

[KingScorpio]

While it's not possible that Putin will do that. Dropping a nuke will only make more enemies for Russia and there might be no diplomatic talks anymore. This will just trigger the nuclear power countries to go to war when right now they are just looking away. He is already winning by just choking the gas supply. The skirmishes are what he will do since it's about who is going to last long as sanctions take effect. Putin will not do it, he does have a strategy for everything and thinks of consequences.

no it won't putin will justify it with same situation like the US with japan, why should he allow this to escalate the woke west will go after china with same manners like they now go after russia, they will not respect state authorieties they don't mean anything for the woke corrupted west.

[cabron]

While it's not possible that Putin will do that. Dropping a nuke will only make more enemies for Russia and there might be no diplomatic talks anymore. This will just trigger the nuclear power countries to go to war when right now they are just looking away. He is already winning by just choking the gas supply. The skirmishes are what he will do since it's about who is going to last long as sanctions take effect. Putin will not do it, he does have a strategy for everything and thinks of consequences.

no it won't putin will justify it with same situation like the US with japan, why should he allow this to escalate the woke west will go after china with same manners like they now go after russia, they will not respect state authorieties they don't mean anything for the woke corrupted west.

Putin will just make the world against him once he does that. Right now, there are lots of people and countries that are neutral in this conflict because they know he has the reason to react in that manner and those leaders understand his cause. It should remain that way, he should mind to keep it that way.
There is no need for nukes because he even needs the countries that abstained to be on his side.

What difference would he be to President Truman if he does that? Learn from the past because the people who survived the bombing of Japan suffered even after decades.

[KingScorpio]

While it's not possible that Putin will do that. Dropping a nuke will only make more enemies for Russia and there might be no diplomatic talks anymore. This will just trigger the nuclear power countries to go to war when right now they are just looking away. He is already winning by just choking the gas supply. The skirmishes are what he will do since it's about who is going to last long as sanctions take effect. Putin will not do it, he does have a strategy for everything and thinks of consequences.

no it won't putin will justify it with same situation like the US with japan, why should he allow this to escalate the woke west will go after china with same manners like they now go after russia, they will not respect state authorieties they don't mean anything for the woke corrupted west.

Putin will just make the world against him once he does that. Right now, there are lots of people and countries that are neutral in this conflict because they know he has the reason to react in that manner and those leaders understand his cause. It should remain that way, he should mind to keep it that way.
There is no need for nukes because he even needs the countries that abstained to be on his side.

What difference would he be to President Truman if he does that? Learn from the past because the people who survived the bombing of Japan suffered even after decades.

that's not true he is pretty good in dividing people, like he divided the USA into woke and antiwoke he will also create a new un in which the USA is suspended from the human rights council, etc.

nuking ukraine would have same justifications like the nuking of japan, ukranians are fanatics they don't stop fighting, only if they are being taken what they are fighting for they could get demoralised bacause the ukranian army is reinforced by american and transatlantic woke racist hate preachers

[cabron]

While it's not possible that Putin will do that. Dropping a nuke will only make more enemies for Russia and there might be no diplomatic talks anymore. This will just trigger the nuclear power countries to go to war when right now they are just looking away. He is already winning by just choking the gas supply. The skirmishes are what he will do since it's about who is going to last long as sanctions take effect. Putin will not do it, he does have a strategy for everything and thinks of consequences.

no it won't putin will justify it with same situation like the US with japan, why should he allow this to escalate the woke west will go after china with same manners like they now go after russia, they will not respect state authorieties they don't mean anything for the woke corrupted west.

Putin will just make the world against him once he does that. Right now, there are lots of people and countries that are neutral in this conflict because they know he has the reason to react in that manner and those leaders understand his cause. It should remain that way, he should mind to keep it that way.
There is no need for nukes because he even needs the countries that abstained to be on his side.

What difference would he be to President Truman if he does that? Learn from the past because the people who survived the bombing of Japan suffered even after decades.

that's not true he is pretty good in dividing people, like he divided the USA into woke and antiwoke he will also create a new un in which the USA is suspended from the human rights council, etc.

nuking ukraine would have same justifications like the nuking of japan, ukranians are fanatics they don't stop fighting, only if they are being taken what they are fighting for they could get demoralised bacause the ukranian army is reinforced by american and transatlantic woke racist hate preachers

Of course, Ukrainians should fight, it's thier country. Who else would fight for thier country? Almost every country has border disputes and a history of hostility toward each, all they need is just a table in the middle of it just as how North and South Korea did to finally put an end even for just a decade.

Ukraine is important to Russia to be neutral. If they are not neutral, they're just putting Russia on the edge. Putin would not want to also put the world to the edge by nuking Ukraine. The division in US has been there for a long time ago, they were even a civil war due to that during Abraham Lincoln. Its not just grid hacking but BLM is also done by Putin? 

[af_newbie]

While it's not possible that Putin will do that. Dropping a nuke will only make more enemies for Russia and there might be no diplomatic talks anymore. This will just trigger the nuclear power countries to go to war when right now they are just looking away. He is already winning by just choking the gas supply. The skirmishes are what he will do since it's about who is going to last long as sanctions take effect. Putin will not do it, he does have a strategy for everything and thinks of consequences.

no it won't putin will justify it with same situation like the US with japan, why should he allow this to escalate the woke west will go after china with same manners like they now go after russia, they will not respect state authorieties they don't mean anything for the woke corrupted west.

Let me guess, he will say that Ukrainians did it on themselves, and Russia will open an investigation and prosecute responsible Ukrainians.

[Mometaskers]

It's counterproductive since they'd want Ukraine intact as buffer state or if annexed, a productive part of Russia. Ukraine may not have mutual defense treaties with other nuclear powers but nuking it would give Russia's enemies a justification to nuke Russia in return.

Also, Japan is across the Pacific from America. Ukraine is just next-door to Russia.

[BADecker]

While it's not possible that Putin will do that. Dropping a nuke will only make more enemies for Russia and there might be no diplomatic talks anymore. This will just trigger the nuclear power countries to go to war when right now they are just looking away. He is already winning by just choking the gas supply. The skirmishes are what he will do since it's about who is going to last long as sanctions take effect. Putin will not do it, he does have a strategy for everything and thinks of consequences.

no it won't putin will justify it with same situation like the US with japan, why should he allow this to escalate the woke west will go after china with same manners like they now go after russia, they will not respect state authorieties they don't mean anything for the woke corrupted west.

Besides, Putin was pushed into taking drastic measures... by the world trying to cut off trade with Russia.

If the world is killing you, and you know that you will die, it only makes sense to fight back with everything you have, right?

We don't know where Russia really is with regard to financial and business losses. They might be winning (even though it looks differently on the outside), or they might be near death. Have they been checkmated into some kind of death corner? They will fight if they have, with everything they've got.

[KingScorpio]

It's counterproductive since they'd want Ukraine intact as buffer state or if annexed, a productive part of Russia. Ukraine may not have mutual defense treaties with other nuclear powers but nuking it would give Russia's enemies a justification to nuke Russia in return.

Also, Japan is across the Pacific from America. Ukraine is just next-door to Russia.

when he is being pushed into a corner anything can happen, putin is considering ukraine as fashists and neonazis and enemies to russian freedom,

he is not different than american social justice warriors, if you have two people and they are supposed to run their country both can't be the bank

one has to be the worker and the other one the banker. can't work different

peace only exists as long as there is someone that either voluntarily or somehow on drugs becomes the worker that does the crappy labour.

[PrimeNumber7]

putin could use Nuclear weapon's on one of more Militarised Cities in Ukraine just like the USA did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

In WW2, imperial Japan has no way of retailing against a nuke. Japan really did not even have the ability to send conventional bombs to the US homeland. Today, the US is very capable of retaliating against any nuclear attack.

[be.open]

If conventional war in Ukraine becomes to costly and to risky, like it also happened in the pacific,

putin could use Nuclear weapon's on one of more Militarised Cities in Ukraine just like the USA did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

In Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the nuclear bombs Little and Fat Man were used, with a yield of 13 to 21 kilotons of TNT. Among other things, the Russian army is armed with the old Soviet high-explosive bombs FAB-3000, FAB-5000 and FAB-9000, with a capacity of 1.4 to 4.2 kilotons of TNT. To arrange a scale of destruction comparable to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it is not necessary to use nuclear bombs with their unpleasant side effects in the form of radioactive contamination of the area - it is enough to drop a few good old high-explosive bombs of the middle of the last century.

[coolcoinz]

That's what I'm also afraid of, but all we can do is hope that it will never happen and the mad man is stopped before it comes to this. He didn't expect Zelensky to be so tough and stubborn. Putin knew the leaders of neighboring countries and thought them all to be cowards, just like Yanukovych who fled the country to Russia. He thought the "actor" will do the same when attacked with full force. We all know how wrong he was.
Russia is running out of bullets and equipment to fight this war and Putin will not accept defeat. I expect heavy conventional bombing to come first and then small tactical nukes, unless they come to an agreement before that.

IMO Putin should be stopped by a coalition of forces. The countries who are interested in helping Ukraine should join up and enter the country and form a defensive line around the capital, declaring that if they are attacked they will return fire. I wonder what Putin would do at that point? Declare war to another 5 or more countries f he can't defeat 1?

[cabron]

It's counterproductive since they'd want Ukraine intact as buffer state or if annexed, a productive part of Russia. Ukraine may not have mutual defense treaties with other nuclear powers but nuking it would give Russia's enemies a justification to nuke Russia in return.

Also, Japan is across the Pacific from America. Ukraine is just next-door to Russia.

Japan, America, and Russia are actually closer than we think. Russia and Japan have border issues and Russia even owns Alaska once upon a time because it's just right next to the border of Canada. https://ibb.co/P5swF2p They could actually just fight right in the icy lands and not disturb any country in the Northpole as thier battlefield but they choose to destroy some like Ukraine.

That's what I'm also afraid of, but all we can do is hope that it will never happen and the mad man is stopped before it comes to this. He didn't expect Zelensky to be so tough and stubborn. Putin knew the leaders of neighboring countries and thought them all to be cowards, just like Yanukovych who fled the country to Russia. He thought the "actor" will do the same when attacked with full force. We all know how wrong he was.
Russia is running out of bullets and equipment to fight this war and Putin will not accept defeat. I expect heavy conventional bombing to come first and then small tactical nukes, unless they come to an agreement before that.

IMO Putin should be stopped by a coalition of forces. The countries who are interested in helping Ukraine should join up and enter the country and form a defensive line around the capital, declaring that if they are attacked they will return fire. I wonder what Putin would do at that point? Declare war to another 5 or more countries f he can't defeat 1?

NATO is not united and Putin knew it. And Russia is a producer of arms and ammo. Other countries procure from them, that is not possible. They may have been taking overtime to produce more these days.

[be.open]

That's what I'm also afraid of, but all we can do is hope that it will never happen and the mad man is stopped before it comes to this. He didn't expect Zelensky to be so tough and stubborn. Putin knew the leaders of neighboring countries and thought them all to be cowards, just like Yanukovych who fled the country to Russia. He thought the "actor" will do the same when attacked with full force. We all know how wrong he was.
Russia is running out of bullets and equipment to fight this war and Putin will not accept defeat. I expect heavy conventional bombing to come first and then small tactical nukes, unless they come to an agreement before that.

IMO Putin should be stopped by a coalition of forces. The countries who are interested in helping Ukraine should join up and enter the country and form a defensive line around the capital, declaring that if they are attacked they will return fire. I wonder what Putin would do at that point? Declare war to another 5 or more countries f he can't defeat 1?

Europe seems to be scared to death of Russian nuclear weapons and hastily buying iodine pills, even though Putin's worst weapon against Europe is millions of Ukrainian refugees. Among them there are many adequate normal people who are simply looking for a better life for themselves (and you can’t blame them for this), but there is also a noticeable part of violent nationalists who grew up with the idea of ​​the superiority of the Ukrainian nation and now everyone owes them something. Europe did not believe for a long time that there was Nazism in Ukraine - well, now she will see everything with her own eyes.

This is a very serious test to determine the boundaries of European tolerance - is it tolerant of open manifestations of Nazism? So serious that it can be a matter of life and death.

[amishmanish]

Sometimes it scares me if one dictator go berserk what could possibly happen to the world. Ukraine crisis has shown us how fragile peace is. Even with big international forums like UN and big military alliances like NATO. Ukraine is burning and I don’t know if Russia nuke Ukraine, but if Ukraine get its hand on some old soviet nuke lying undetected in one of its junkyards. I fear they wont shy away from nuking Russia. After all they have lost so much in war and it wont be a question of moral but a question of vengeance

[coolcoinz]

Europe seems to be scared to death of Russian nuclear weapons and hastily buying iodine pills, even though Putin's worst weapon against Europe is millions of Ukrainian refugees. Among them there are many adequate normal people who are simply looking for a better life for themselves (and you can’t blame them for this), but there is also a noticeable part of violent nationalists who grew up with the idea of ​​the superiority of the Ukrainian nation and now everyone owes them something. Europe did not believe for a long time that there was Nazism in Ukraine - well, now she will see everything with her own eyes.

This is a very serious test to determine the boundaries of European tolerance - is it tolerant of open manifestations of Nazism? So serious that it can be a matter of life and death.

You're saying that nationalists, full of ideals and love for their "superior Ukraine" are fleeing abroad? Isn't this a contradiction? I thought all those violent nationalists are fighting as Azov and the National Guard of Ukraine, and some are even in Kiev, commanding the Ukrainian army.

Also, it's forbidden for able men to leave the country. How are they able to cross the border? Even if some of them manage to sneak out, what are they going to do abroad? Form a new small Ukraine in Poland and Germany? Give away leaflets?
Wearing Nazi insignia is forbidden in the EU.

I don't feel afraid of people who are running from the war. This argument that they are going to present a threat, steal our jobs and form armed nationalist groups in our countries is one of the dumbest pieces of propaganda spread by Kremlin. They hate it that Ukrainians are choosing to go to the EU instead of Russia who is trying to liberate them from their oppressive government by murdering, raping and robbing (sometimes in that exact order).

[Desmong]

If conventional war in Ukraine becomes to costly and to risky, like it also happened in the pacific,

putin could use Nuclear weapon's on one of more Militarised Cities in Ukraine just like the USA did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

havine a jewish Comedian president that worships the woke racist western left, will make live very risky for Ukrainians,

and it is likely that Putin will get away with it as he can easily blame the United states for Arming Ukraine and for pushing it towards Russia, (war propaganda)

i think this is highly likely if Putin wil not be able to win the war Conventionally, as the russians are not willing to fight high causalty urban war.

I don't think Putin will have such a big disaster in mind cause gone are the days when nuclear bomb will be used conveniently without any big sanction or escalation. There are international laws that had stopped such act and now protecting civilian and prisoners of war. Such attempt will looks disastrous and can inflict and bigger war that will escalate to world war three. Putin will try his possible best to protect the Russian economy from falling severely.

[istiak2277]

If this happens I won't be surprise. For those who think that using nuke from Russians side to Ukraine will start a nuclear war are wrong. Ukraine has no nuke and other EU country even USA will not use their nuke against Russia even if Russia nuke Ukraine. Nuclear capability of Russia is well known to EU leaders so they won't risk their country for Ukraine.

But i do not think Putin have any  intention to nuke Ukraine because it seems Putin wants support from Ukraine people. Especially from pro Russians people in Ukraine so that Russia could established their foothold in Ukraine even after the war.