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April 22, 2022, 05:23:11 PM
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This works for poker and maybe for some other rare cases (maybe betting under certain conditions if there are bonuses, rakebacks or something similar for the money wagered). An ordinary gambler in a casino does not receive anything other than "free" bets, but in fact these bets are already paid for by him (more precisely, by the amount of money he lost).
What if the rake back isn't worth it at the end? It's a good thing if the casino doesn't only rewards high rollers for a rakeback but offers other incentives too but I think there are casinos that has limits on what they could offer. I guess high rollers nowadays do tend to find some shelter that caters a lot of bonuses and doesn't only focus on rake backs.

Of course it's not worth it. Rakeback is just a sweet shell for a bitter pill (the fact that you lost). As for the real high rollers, the casinos hunt them down and offer schemes like "flight + stay in a cool hotel" even before they spend their first dollar on the game. In the end, it pays off. But these are individual cases for VIPs.

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April 22, 2022, 06:28:44 PM
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Quite surprised to see consecutive high roller of above 20BTC on a single wager. Have any of you come across such big wagers in real-time. Came across this while spending time watching the high rollers on the bets tab. Have anyone came across such big bets, and I don't whether this player have managed to make a win or not. Shocked

That was really an impressive bet to see and I think it won't hurt that much to them. Surely, while doing that kind of bet, they already win in some cases. These are high rollers in the first place and expect they have a big bankroll, to begin with.

We just have to watch them as no high rollers lurking at this forum or maybe just a silent.

Want to see real feedbacks from real high rollers and I hope they will bother to response here to share some of their views. Smiley
I think high rollers prefer to stay in silent than to admit that they are one of them as high wagers also mean big winners, winning in mostly huge amount. For sure, everyone is surprised on how high they are betting, but i think they have already made significant gains in the past that is why they have the high nerves to bet such huge amounts. But even so, losing such huge bets are still painful and this is something that they have to accept.
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April 22, 2022, 10:12:31 PM
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I think high rollers prefer to stay in silent than to admit that they are one of them as high wagers also mean big winners, winning in mostly huge amount. For sure, everyone is surprised on how high they are betting, but i think they have already made significant gains in the past that is why they have the high nerves to bet such huge amounts. But even so, losing such huge bets are still painful and this is something that they have to accept.
^ That is a must for their own safety, we know there are too many scammers out there that could probably be waiting for information of a large amount to scam. Probably they gamble as a high roller or a whale gambler because they want to have a quick easy profit which is the amount is also they can afford. A high roller is also a high reward when you gain profit, but they do not stay long in the gambling casino after they won they want always to cash out their money, that is how clever they are just like recently posted on a gambling casino that a player won 32BTC on Roolbit.
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April 22, 2022, 11:51:34 PM
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This works for poker and maybe for some other rare cases (maybe betting under certain conditions if there are bonuses, rakebacks or something similar for the money wagered). An ordinary gambler in a casino does not receive anything other than "free" bets, but in fact these bets are already paid for by him (more precisely, by the amount of money he lost).
What if the rake back isn't worth it at the end? It's a good thing if the casino doesn't only rewards high rollers for a rakeback but offers other incentives too but I think there are casinos that has limits on what they could offer. I guess high rollers nowadays do tend to find some shelter that caters a lot of bonuses and doesn't only focus on rake backs.

Of course it's not worth it. Rakeback is just a sweet shell for a bitter pill (the fact that you lost). As for the real high rollers, the casinos hunt them down and offer schemes like "flight + stay in a cool hotel" even before they spend their first dollar on the game. In the end, it pays off. But these are individual cases for VIPs.
Is such kind of sophistication being provided for the high rollers. That is something unbelievable, because if someone is inviting for a cool stay and spend his money on wager, then it is pure sign of inviting to use the funds and get away. Everytime these gamblers can't be lucky.
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April 23, 2022, 09:22:35 AM
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~ As for the real high rollers, the casinos hunt them down and offer schemes like "flight + stay in a cool hotel" even before they spend their first dollar on the game. In the end, it pays off. But these are individual cases for VIPs.

In my opinion, this kind of offer should make the high roller think about why he is being made such a tempting offer. At the very least I would immediately suspect that the casino making such an offer is obviously going to empty my pockets. I guess I will never understand what such people think, because I can not afford to bet more than $5, and I use such bets very rarely.

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April 23, 2022, 09:56:34 AM
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In my opinion, this kind of offer should make the high roller think about why he is being made such a tempting offer. At the very least I would immediately suspect that the casino making such an offer is obviously going to empty my pockets. I guess I will never understand what such people think, because I can not afford to bet more than $5, and I use such bets very rarely.

But you initially know that any casino is trying to empty your pockets. And judging by the reasoning about the amount that you can afford as a bet, you still visit the casino (or play online). So what's the difference? You can afford to lose a small amount of money, and for high rollers, this small amount of money is several orders of magnitude larger. They don't care where to spend, but naturally when they get generous bonuses somewhere, they go there.
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April 23, 2022, 11:34:43 AM
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Quite surprised to see consecutive high roller of above 20BTC on a single wager. Have any of you come across such big wagers in real-time. Came across this while spending time watching the high rollers on the bets tab. Have anyone came across such big bets, and I don't whether this player have managed to make a win or not. Shocked

These are such huge amounts for a bet. Whoever is behind this probably has so much to spare and most likely, it's just a usual and normal day for them to be entertained and perhaps gain more money. While this is so much for us, this could be just a little portion of their portfolio only. I always find it amazing and amusing that these kind of people exist - those who have a vast luxury to spend many dimes over a bet that has a half probability to offer.

Although I also know for sure that to attain their lifestyle, they or their ancestors (if they enherit it) worked hard for it. Nonetheless, this just exhibits high risk, high reward. I think they don't fear that much to experience failure because of several bet attempts, given their large bets despite the risks.
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April 23, 2022, 12:00:32 PM
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In my opinion, this kind of offer should make the high roller think about why he is being made such a tempting offer. At the very least I would immediately suspect that the casino making such an offer is obviously going to empty my pockets. I guess I will never understand what such people think, because I can not afford to bet more than $5, and I use such bets very rarely.

But you initially know that any casino is trying to empty your pockets. And judging by the reasoning about the amount that you can afford as a bet, you still visit the casino (or play online). So what's the difference? You can afford to lose a small amount of money, and for high rollers, this small amount of money is several orders of magnitude larger. They don't care where to spend, but naturally when they get generous bonuses somewhere, they go there.
That is why we really need strong self-control in playing gambling because the casino will always provide offers that will make us tempted to follow it.
If we don't have self-control, we will surely take their offer and play until we eventually lose track of time.
If we can't afford to bet more than $5 or some other amount, then we really need to be able to control ourselves not to be tempted by their offer.
And if we see that their offer can make us spend more money, then it is better to leave the casino immediately before it is too late to know.

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April 23, 2022, 12:24:09 PM
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In my opinion, this kind of offer should make the high roller think about why he is being made such a tempting offer. At the very least I would immediately suspect that the casino making such an offer is obviously going to empty my pockets. I guess I will never understand what such people think, because I can not afford to bet more than $5, and I use such bets very rarely.

But you initially know that any casino is trying to empty your pockets. And judging by the reasoning about the amount that you can afford as a bet, you still visit the casino (or play online). So what's the difference? You can afford to lose a small amount of money, and for high rollers, this small amount of money is several orders of magnitude larger. They don't care where to spend, but naturally when they get generous bonuses somewhere, they go there.
It is not madness for them to take the offer, these high rollers know what really happen to them but this is not an issue for them as they are pleasing themselves rather than taking this seriously. Real gamblers are not afraid to bet huge amounts, they can afford to lose more than us normal gamblers. If this offer could empty their pocket, they can still refill it and get back to gambling again.

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Of course it's not worth it. Rakeback is just a sweet shell for a bitter pill (the fact that you lost). As for the real high rollers, the casinos hunt them down and offer schemes like "flight + stay in a cool hotel" even before they spend their first dollar on the game. In the end, it pays off. But these are individual cases for VIPs.
Is such kind of sophistication being provided for the high rollers. That is something unbelievable, because if someone is inviting for a cool stay and spend his money on wager, then it is pure sign of inviting to use the funds and get away. Everytime these gamblers can't be lucky.

In the world of big money, there are many things that seem unbelievable to the average person. But in fact, you can look at it differently: for example, casinos spend millions on advertising, if they spend a small part of the advertising budget (several thousand dollars or even a couple of tens of thousands of dollars) on guaranteed attraction of a high roller, then this is a good deal.

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April 23, 2022, 07:18:53 PM
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Wont believe that it was a mistake because you would definitely be noticing that he made that in a row which its impossible that you wont notice and also if you do accidentally made out wrong bet amount then its not
something for this to be big.

Looking these numbers do really make us drool and this is something that we couldnt see on everyday basis which is really good to look at that there are really people who could really afford on losing
such huge sums of money.You could really see on most gambling sites on where there are people who are high rollers.
Maybe he was using an auto bet that time? And the bet continues for the second time around but he got lucky because he got two consecutive wins. He is more lucky if the amount that he bet was not intended but accident have happened like he unintentionally push that max bet button or the 2x/3x.. button. Never happened to me, that I win in an accidental bet but I only lose.

This is why whenever I play I always hide that max bet button in the setting just to be safe. It's interesting to see huge amounts like this on a crypto casino, we can say that people now have a confident on using cryptocurrencies as much as they use fiats.

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April 23, 2022, 07:22:11 PM
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I don't believe in this type of gambling, for me it's just marketing to show how much the casino moves and encourage more people to put more money in the game.

First, I think they are false and second, if they are not false, they are made by people from the company.
Besides, what's the use of showing that? Just show that there are more people than you playing so you don't feel alone or bad about what you bet.
I sometimes have that feeling like I think the bet was not made by a random dude but it was made by the casino owner or their representatives. It can be a kind of lure to show the potential of the casino that they have a big bankroll and they are able to pay huge amounts if someone wins.

In the gambling site that I play, you can see the high rollers (not the common one) but only the high roller on a specific game and on that section, you can also see if who hit the highest multiplier. Some games are hard but they still manage to hit the highest possible multiplier but what shocks me is their base bet that are too much that a normal person can imagine. I was like, how was that possible?

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April 23, 2022, 08:25:28 PM
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I don't believe in this type of gambling, for me it's just marketing to show how much the casino moves and encourage more people to put more money in the game.

First, I think they are false and second, if they are not false, they are made by people from the company.
Besides, what's the use of showing that? Just show that there are more people than you playing so you don't feel alone or bad about what you bet.
I sometimes have that feeling like I think the bet was not made by a random dude but it was made by the casino owner or their representatives. It can be a kind of lure to show the potential of the casino that they have a big bankroll and they are able to pay huge amounts if someone wins.
That can't be removed from our minds if we know how aggressive the marketing of the other casinos is.

But most of the time, they're for real and even they're being endorsed by someone. I'm sure that those that have a good reputation, they're the ones that create honest marketing.

Not just to pull people to them but to show that they're really being flocked by actual users.

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April 23, 2022, 08:41:37 PM
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I thought high stakes would involve a few different bets at the same time, color plus various numbers so you more often avoid all or nothing in returns.   Not sure if 4am was the bettors local time but I would say the best capital management is not to bet large when tired or drunk, make sure you are fully awake when considering the risks and game you are playing.
  Maybe it was Tom Cruise betting his lunch money who knows, no tip for the bar tender that day.    Can a professional gambler write off such losses as these against their taxes due ?

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This works for poker and maybe for some other rare cases (maybe betting under certain conditions if there are bonuses, rakebacks or something similar for the money wagered). An ordinary gambler in a casino does not receive anything other than "free" bets, but in fact these bets are already paid for by him (more precisely, by the amount of money he lost).
What if the rake back isn't worth it at the end? It's a good thing if the casino doesn't only rewards high rollers for a rakeback but offers other incentives too but I think there are casinos that has limits on what they could offer. I guess high rollers nowadays do tend to find some shelter that caters a lot of bonuses and doesn't only focus on rake backs.

Of course it's not worth it. Rakeback is just a sweet shell for a bitter pill (the fact that you lost). As for the real high rollers, the casinos hunt them down and offer schemes like "flight + stay in a cool hotel" even before they spend their first dollar on the game. In the end, it pays off. But these are individual cases for VIPs.
Some of those whales still want to be a low key gambler so technically those offers are not in their interest sometimes and they just want to gamble alone. Seeing such high rollers is quiet encouraging to gamble more on that site because you can see their trust on the platform so technically, if you are in the same platform you can have an assurance that your money is safe and you might be able to increase funds because of this. Those high rollers already enjoys a lot of privileges, this can also be good if they want to take advantage of this.

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April 23, 2022, 11:47:48 PM
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Some of those whales still want to be a low key gambler so technically those offers are not in their interest sometimes and they just want to gamble alone. Seeing such high rollers is quiet encouraging to gamble more on that site because you can see their trust on the platform so technically, if you are in the same platform you can have an assurance that your money is safe and you might be able to increase funds because of this. Those high rollers already enjoys a lot of privileges, this can also be good if they want to take advantage of this.
I wonder why the big whales are so low key. Don't they like to get famous. MAy be one of the reasons is they don't waste much time on scrolling the phone all the time like us - rather they focus. more on getting the earn and investing money. I being a middle class person can not even think to make such a huge bet.

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April 24, 2022, 09:28:21 PM
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Is such kind of sophistication being provided for the high rollers. That is something unbelievable, because if someone is inviting for a cool stay and spend his money on wager, then it is pure sign of inviting to use the funds and get away. Everytime these gamblers can't be lucky.
"get away seems" inappropriate, for a legit casinos but that can be appropriate for those who are scams. They literally can get away with your money and it doesn't matter if it's huge or small but they will take any amounts. That's how greedy scammers are. That kind of offer said above is not unbelievable.

I already saw some legit casinos offer that and even better than that but those are only available for the max out vip levels though there are still benefits for the lower vip levels but they are only limited to rakebacks and bonuses. There is no need to gamble huge, if your only goal is to travel and stay in a casino because you can always afford it and they will cost more cheaper.

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April 24, 2022, 09:56:44 PM
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I wonder why the big whales are so low key. Don't they like to get famous. MAy be one of the reasons is they don't waste much time on scrolling the phone all the time like us - rather they focus. more on getting the earn and investing money. I being a middle class person can not even think to make such a huge bet.
The reason might be that the Big whales wouldn't even care much about the money they would spend on gambling, don't want to be famous that's a classic reason , they just wanted to have fun with the money they deserved to spend, indeed they wouldn't be interested in bonuses or anything but not all. I thought the big whales would only play if they can do it, gambling for them was not a job, but that's also not all whales are like that, sometimes they also have to focus in different directions including gambling and they also need a win. Such a huge bet for an adrenaline loving big whale.


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April 24, 2022, 10:01:41 PM
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There are always certain high rollers active. Then it is to be hoped for those players that they have some luck. The amounts that I see on the images here are quite high. There are also people who might easily miss that money, who have become millionaires by investing in cryptocurrencies, for example. I have often read that Stake is played with large amounts of money. That means in any case that it is possible to bet with large amounts at Stake.
There are possible high rollers not only at Stake, but even to some casino sites. The only thing i have in my mind is that these high rollers have no way to fear from losing maybe because they also had huge wins from their past bets, or they are used being high rollers knowing once they got lucky, they become instant millionaires. Gambling is a game more of luck than skills, so i guess once they bet for huge amounts, they also prepare theirselves from losing such a big amount.

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April 25, 2022, 06:26:32 AM
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The only thing i have in my mind is that these high rollers have no way to fear from losing maybe because they also had huge wins from their past bets, or they are used being high rollers knowing once they got lucky, they become instant millionaires. Gambling is a game more of luck than skills, so i guess once they bet for huge amounts, they also prepare theirselves from losing such a big amount.

I know some high rollers and they are people who manage a lot of money, who have businesses, and for whom betting 0.025 BTC is like betting 0.00025 BTC for you. I don't know if there will be some who are not so rich and bet those amounts, on credit or otherwise, but I don't think they will last long, as it is inevitable that at some point they will hit a losing streak, and if they don't have money from their business or wealth to replenish they won't be able to keep playing at those levels.

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