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November 01, 2022, 04:01:15 PM
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But there is power that is far greater than money, and doesn't have anything to do with money. For example, there are a reasonable number of people who have used tons of money to get cured from cancer. But the doctors couldn't do it. Then, the people got well naturally.

The power of nature is different than and more powerful that money.

I wonder who put nature together. It couldn't have been Random Selection. Random Selection is like playing basketball, with the hoop on the other side of the world. Then the basketball player simply throws the basketball into the air, and it goes through the hoop on the other side of the world, even though he didn't even know what direction to throw the basketball.

Stuff doesn't happen like that. Random Selection doesn't work.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism

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My experience with Wikipedia is that they contradict themselves in areas. I won't explain it here, but ask if you want.

Here is the big, simple failing in Evolution Theory. It's in the word 'random'... random mutations. Put on your deep-thinking cap.

In nature, everything operates by cause and effect. Something causes each thing that happens, to happen. There is no true spontaneity that we are aware of. This means that 'random' is something different than what we normally think of when we hear or read this word, random.

"Random" simply means that we don't know what the cause and effect action was. That's all. It could have been anything, or any number of things. But we don't know what they were. "Random" doesn't mean that there wasn't a cause and effect action involved. It only means that we don't know what the cause and effect action was.

We don't know that evolution exists. Why not? Because evolution involves random mutations. Random means that we don't know. Many things may look like evolution caused them. But even our scientists know that we don't know that evolution exists, because they use the word random in evolution theory.

Conversely, cause and effect (CE) is universal as far as we know. In the few things that we think involve true spontaneity, spontaneity has never been proven. Regarding nature, this brings us to two major points:
1. Either creation caused it all, and there is a creator that is outside of CE;
2. Or everything always existed.

The point is that evolution is a theory that will never prove evolution to exist... unless, possibly, they change the theory. And since you can think your way through this (as outlined above), if you believe in evolution, you will be believing without any real 'thing' to back it. This means that you have a religion going for yourself in 'evolution'.

If anybody wants proof that the universe DID NOT ALWAYS EXIST, ask. It'd not for this topic.

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November 01, 2022, 04:38:17 PM
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But there is power that is far greater than money, and doesn't have anything to do with money. For example, there are a reasonable number of people who have used tons of money to get cured from cancer. But the doctors couldn't do it. Then, the people got well naturally.

The power of nature is different than and more powerful that money.

I wonder who put nature together. It couldn't have been Random Selection. Random Selection is like playing basketball, with the hoop on the other side of the world. Then the basketball player simply throws the basketball into the air, and it goes through the hoop on the other side of the world, even though he didn't even know what direction to throw the basketball.

Stuff doesn't happen like that. Random Selection doesn't work.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism

 Huh Roll Eyes

My experience with Wikipedia is that they contradict themselves in areas. I won't explain it here, but ask if you want.

Here is the big, simple failing in Evolution Theory. It's in the word 'random'... random mutations. Put on your deep-thinking cap.

In nature, everything operates by cause and effect. Something causes each thing that happens, to happen. There is no true spontaneity that we are aware of. This means that 'random' is something different than what we normally think of when we hear or read this word, random.

"Random" simply means that we don't know what the cause and effect action was. That's all. It could have been anything, or any number of things. But we don't know what they were. "Random" doesn't mean that there wasn't a cause and effect action involved. It only means that we don't know what the cause and effect action was.

We don't know that evolution exists. Why not? Because evolution involves random mutations. Random means that we don't know. Many things may look like evolution caused them. But even our scientists know that we don't know that evolution exists, because they use the word random in evolution theory.

Conversely, cause and effect (CE) is universal as far as we know. In the few things that we think involve true spontaneity, spontaneity has never been proven. Regarding nature, this brings us to two major points:
1. Either creation caused it all, and there is a creator that is outside of CE;
2. Or everything always existed.

The point is that evolution is a theory that will never prove evolution to exist... unless, possibly, they change the theory. And since you can think your way through this (as outlined above), if you believe in evolution, you will be believing without any real 'thing' to back it. This means that you have a religion going for yourself in 'evolution'.

If anybody wants proof that the universe DID NOT ALWAYS EXIST, ask. It'd not for this topic.

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God is not a grandpa with a white beard sitting on the clouds that you can talk to (anthropomorphic fairytale), it's mathematics (the language of the universe):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRLvYOZD8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMDMypO9pNQ
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/16/climate-variations-analyzed-5-million-years-back-in-time-show-repeating-fractal-patterns/

Fractals apply everywhere... the stock markets, Bitcoin (endless fractals with repeating patterns every 4 years), income distribution, roads, rivers etc.

God is everywhere because it's not a sentient being, it's maths. God exists in an abstract sense, not in an anthropomorphic one.

Religions try to explain things in layman's terms... can't really explain fractals to someone who hasn't even finished primary school (people who lived thousands of years ago).
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November 01, 2022, 08:07:17 PM
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My experience with Wikipedia is that they contradict themselves in areas. I won't explain it here, but ask if you want.

Here is the big, simple failing in Evolution Theory. It's in the word 'random'... random mutations. Put on your deep-thinking cap.

In nature, everything operates by cause and effect. Something causes each thing that happens, to happen. There is no true spontaneity that we are aware of. This means that 'random' is something different than what we normally think of when we hear or read this word, random.

"Random" simply means that we don't know what the cause and effect action was. That's all. It could have been anything, or any number of things. But we don't know what they were. "Random" doesn't mean that there wasn't a cause and effect action involved. It only means that we don't know what the cause and effect action was.

We don't know that evolution exists. Why not? Because evolution involves random mutations. Random means that we don't know. Many things may look like evolution caused them. But even our scientists know that we don't know that evolution exists, because they use the word random in evolution theory.

Conversely, cause and effect (CE) is universal as far as we know. In the few things that we think involve true spontaneity, spontaneity has never been proven. Regarding nature, this brings us to two major points:
1. Either creation caused it all, and there is a creator that is outside of CE;
2. Or everything always existed.

The point is that evolution is a theory that will never prove evolution to exist... unless, possibly, they change the theory. And since you can think your way through this (as outlined above), if you believe in evolution, you will be believing without any real 'thing' to back it. This means that you have a religion going for yourself in 'evolution'.

If anybody wants proof that the universe DID NOT ALWAYS EXIST, ask. It'd not for this topic.

Cool
God is not a grandpa with a white beard sitting on the clouds that you can talk to (anthropomorphic fairytale), it's mathematics (the language of the universe):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRLvYOZD8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMDMypO9pNQ
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/16/climate-variations-analyzed-5-million-years-back-in-time-show-repeating-fractal-patterns/

Fractals apply everywhere... the stock markets, Bitcoin (endless fractals with repeating patterns every 4 years), income distribution, roads, rivers etc.

God is everywhere because it's not a sentient being, it's maths. God exists in an abstract sense, not in an anthropomorphic one.

Religions try to explain things in layman's terms... can't really explain fractals to someone who hasn't even finished primary school (people who lived thousands of years ago).

Why talk about fractals? Why talk about something as naive as mathematics? After all, people can understand fractals somewhat, and math a little. But God is so great that fractals and math are tiny pieces of the universe and what He understands.

Isaiah 55:9:
As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

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November 02, 2022, 12:49:15 PM
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Power will give us say inbthe community but money can help us exercise the power effectively to an extent where it won't be a barrier to determine our voice been heard, the two is very important for man to live an influential life that will make impact on people especially those that are the public figures, power is very essential to make leadership positions, money also is very important to make a living and impact others in life.

There is a conflict between the two, You cannot gain power without money.

And, I agree that power really dominates anything since you can gain money if you also have a powerful connection. Even if you have a lot of money and don't know how to spend it then you cannot gain power if you have people that cannot gain your power and make it to the top.
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November 10, 2022, 07:53:54 AM
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To live a high standard life,  money is preferred. Money can greatly enlarge the choices you have over many things, whether it's material belongs or people you associate with.
To achieve big goals in life, especially when it comes to running a nation, a society or a large group, power is the NO. 1 choice. Power creates order especially a team is working on a big project or has a great goal.
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November 10, 2022, 08:54:51 AM
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Power in society is more important than economic ability, because some status cannot be bought by money. When you reach a certain status, you are not very rich but you will get the respect you deserve.
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November 10, 2022, 08:57:41 AM
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The two are mutual, people want to climb to higher power, the ultimate purpose is also for money, if you have money you want higher status.
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November 10, 2022, 09:13:53 AM
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I like simplicity and roughness. I choose money. I want wealth to travel the world freely and meet my various needs. I don't need status, it's enough to travel the world happily.
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November 10, 2022, 01:06:01 PM
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I think is money is virtually everything and you can be all powerful but still don't have enough funds which means your power is limited

Imagine a king who is ruling a community he has the power to make decisions in the community but what gives you that edge of complete power is MONEY 

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November 10, 2022, 01:17:04 PM
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Power will give us say inbthe community but money can help us exercise the power effectively to an extent where it won't be a barrier to determine our voice been heard, the two is very important for man to live an influential life that will make impact on people especially those that are the public figures, power is very essential to make leadership positions, money also is very important to make a living and impact others in life.

Having both us what most people in this generation aspire for every single day that passes. But having Power first and using your power to get all the money will be a good way to use it. The thing is to use both your power and your money to help and raise people up the slumps rather than being bad to the society with what you have. But anyday anywhere it's Power. I can use it to get more money

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November 10, 2022, 01:28:49 PM
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Power will give us say inbthe community but money can help us exercise the power effectively to an extent where it won't be a barrier to determine our voice been heard, the two is very important for man to live an influential life that will make impact on people especially those that are the public figures, power is very essential to make leadership positions, money also is very important to make a living and impact others in life.

Having both us what most people in this generation aspire for every single day that passes. But having Power first and using your power to get all the money will be a good way to use it. The thing is to use both your power and your money to help and raise people up the slumps rather than being bad to the society with what you have. But anyday anywhere it's Power. I can use it to get more money

Money comes easily when you have power and maybe vice versa in some cases. I don't think people with money and power help raise people up from slumps but maybe to make them slaves to the company with so-called education.
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But there is power that is far greater than money, and doesn't have anything to do with money. For example, there are a reasonable number of people who have used tons of money to get cured from cancer. But the doctors couldn't do it. Then, the people got well naturally.

The power of nature is different than and more powerful that money.

That is the supernatural power showing itself when it matters most. That is God doing it. That is what you described there. I do not know what faith you practise or what your beliefs are but am telling you that such illness as cancer does not heal by itself naturally like that. There must be a super imposition on the natural for that to happen outside medical cure.
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November 13, 2022, 04:37:17 PM
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I choose money. Money can solve any problem. Nowday money bring respect in our society. You earn money, than you will get automatic power. Money is also power. There is no way without money.
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November 14, 2022, 10:22:37 PM
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I choose money. Money can solve any problem. Nowday money bring respect in our society. You earn money, than you will get automatic power. Money is also power. There is no way without money.
There is nobody that have wisdom that will choose respect over money because money is what go through suspect there is no one who can give you respect when you are not financially buoyant because I believe that what people respect most is money and that is why they do hun or whoever that I have money

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The FTX/Biden/Ukraine money laundering scheme proves that money can give you lots of power. Wink
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November 15, 2022, 07:36:07 AM
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Power is Power,
Money is also Power.

So, if you're too choose one, what you down for ?
Power or Money ?

Money of course.
Because money is power in liquid form. Power talks but money whispers commands and people always listen to money in the end. Rich people have always known that they don’t need to kill people or dictate to those who may or may not execute their plans, they only need to purchase whatever they want.

Money buys power and influence and the weakness of power is that it waxes and wanes with the perception of respect and the arbitrariness of its execution. Power destroys itself in inverse proportion to its use especially if it’s heavy handed. And never forget money never gets old. You can always find people who respect money.

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November 15, 2022, 07:56:15 PM
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I choose money. Money can solve any problem. Nowday money bring respect in our society. You earn money, than you will get automatic power. Money is also power. There is no way without money.
Money is what proof that one is independent and money is power which rule out any other command. Everything includes money, like our daily feeding, house and our properties. Money leads to power and respect, it's the only quality that everyone respect and adore to, someone everyday prayer point. Getting money can be generated illegal or legal, either ways brings it. But money can never be satisfiable to we humans, we are always hunger for more whenever we have little.
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November 15, 2022, 11:13:53 PM
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I choose money. Money can solve any problem. Nowday money bring respect in our society. You earn money, than you will get automatic power. Money is also power. There is no way without money.
Money is what proof that one is independent and money is power which rule out any other command. Everything includes money, like our daily feeding, house and our properties. Money leads to power and respect, it's the only quality that everyone respect and adore to, someone everyday prayer point. Getting money can be generated illegal or legal, either ways brings it. But money can never be satisfiable to we humans, we are always hunger for more whenever we have little.
Power is better than money in our society, power gives you more influence and privileges to some places money can't take you to. Power command money , one with power can influence any business and law in the society. Power can do what money can't do
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November 17, 2022, 04:32:04 AM
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Of course, power and money are interconnected things. But no two are ever the same thing. Power is not always bought with money. Likewise, when there is money, there does not always have to be power. Power is not always bought with money. They have no intention of ever becoming powerfull.
As far as I'm concerned, I would have chosen the money too. I don't feel the need to show power to others. It's enough just to realize my dreams with my own money.

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November 17, 2022, 07:06:40 AM
 #200

I will choose money very realistically. Having money is also a disguised form and having power. It is not unreasonable to say that money can make ghosts turn mills.
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