I lost my bitcoin

[Hamphser]

I don't know if this OP's story is really a joke or not, but sadly I have to say that it makes a lot of sense. I don't want someone randomly fooling forum users with unreasonable claims about bitcoin holdings, sure it would be great if it were true and had solid evidence but sadly it's almost completely a joke.

But if that's true then there's no way that can really help the OP recover his wallet especially since he doesn't have a secure backup of his private key or seed. But it's hard to believe a foreigner would be brave enough to lend $300K to someone who doesn't understand bitcoin.

One main thing that boggles my mind too on which its impossible for someone to agree on getting some loan of 300k just because someone had  suggest him to buy bitcoin and also this man met on via
Tinder and he do even believed about religious matters which is really that impossible for someone to do give out much trust in a short  time.

We know that once you do lost the keys then there's no way you can retrieve it out and the only way that he could possibly able to access those is to find his foreigner friend
yet much sure he had the keys as well.

[ultrloa]

       i have created a new wallet Can I restore my old wallet data with the purchase reference number through my Visa Card ? 

I'm afraid not because you are the only one holding your keys so the platform where you bought your bitcoins or even the wallet providers cannot help you out upon recovering your funds so better to remember your keys so that you can possibly recover what balances you supposed to lose. Also maybe try to move on since over thinking on things which is already loss in your hands is kinda stressful so if you think you don't have a chance to recover it better forget those things.

[serjent05]

Was it possible to store bitcoin in the phone in 2014 and were there any applications for this at that time? Or was it meant to store information regarding bitcoin in the internal memory of the phone or memory card?

CP models way back in 2014 are capable enough to store data and I think Bitcoin mobile apps are already available in 2014.

If this whole story is true, then without phone and paper, of course, BTC are lost forever and ever.

Indeed, the community might have an idea but with the backup gone all of it seems impossible because this certain John is unreachable.  I hope for OP to find John and retrieve his lost Bitcoin.

One main thing that boggles my mind too on which its impossible for someone to agree on getting some loan of 300k just because someone had  suggest him to buy bitcoin and also this man met on via
Tinder and he do even believed about religious matters which is really that impossible for someone to do give out much trust in a short  time.

Sometimes unexpected things happen.  Just like how we stumble on this forum and start discussing topics like this.

      i have created a new wallet Can I restore my old wallet data with the purchase reference number through my Visa Card ?  

Try to recall if you bought your BTC in a centralized exchange using your Visa Card as stated in an earlier reply, if you can't recall the exchange you can then try to trace your payment transaction, it might probably give you a clue and if you do bought it in a centralized exchange and never withdrawn it, the next thing is follow what Pmalek said.

It wouldn't be the first time something like that happened. But let's say that John really purchased those coins for him, he didn't get scammed, and the whole story is true. His house burnt down destroying his backup. The best thing that can happen is if John has a copy of the seed/private keys and he managed to get hold of him. Doubtful. The second-best thing is if the coins are stored on a centralized exchange where OP underwent KYC and he can get back into his account by proving who he is and restoring the password through email.

When we are on the subject of KYC, did you have to do identity verification on the site where you bought the coins or did John maybe ask you for your personal documents?   

[coupable]

hello everybody
       I hope you will accept my presence and interact with me and solve my problem
       But before I raise my issue, I have to explain the story to you from the beginning
       I am from Kuwait and in 2014 I met an American friend called John via Tinder and he told me that he would come to work in Kuwait for a year and I met him at the airport and he was a very polite person and because I live without a family I offered him to live with me and he welcomed that and he learned Arabic from me and we talked about Christianity and Islam and he was able to convinces me that Christianity is the correct religion and I converted to Christianity so I was the first one convert to a Christian from kuwait and John advised me to invest in bitcoin and I trust John so I borrowed $300,000 and bought over 600 BTC John helped me buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data insideand he asked me to save this paper well And after one year the john come back to his country and I was trying to convince my community  to Christianity, but I was arrested for 5 years and my phone was also confiscated because Christianity is not welcome in my country and after I got out of prison I went to my house and i found it completely burnt because of racism and contempt for religions, from muslims,
 Then I went to the company where John was working, to look for his phone number but I couldn't find any data about him, and now the bank has filed a lawsuit against me before the court asking me to pay the loan in full after I lost my job and my house
       Sorry for the long post, my question is:
       i have created a new wallet Can I restore my old wallet data with the purchase reference number through my Visa Card ?

   Can anyone help me get my wallet back, because I am really in dire financial hardship and ostracized from my community and want to emigrate .      
    I knowing that all this is a test for me from my god

This is not a joke, please give me a solution
I'm really sorry if my English is not good

  

I did not find solid evidence of all of your words, there is no proof of purchase, proof of transactions or anything else that corroborates the truth with your story, I don't think we are can to help or provide a solution for your loss (if your story is true) without any evidence, regarding your sentence, I am also concerned about what happened to you and I don't think you should invite someone to convert to a religion in a country that has a majority religion and that clearly violates the laws of that country.

I don't thing he is lying. He just guessed that he can retrieve his loss from the purchase reference number through his Visa Card. I think it's normal that someone would trust the one who introduced him to bitcoin especially at early stages when he was totally ignorant about how it is running meanwhile.

[COBRAS]

hello everybody
       I hope you will accept my presence and interact with me and solve my problem
       But before I raise my issue, I have to explain the story to you from the beginning
       I am from Kuwait and in 2014 I met an American friend called John via Tinder and he told me that he would come to work in Kuwait for a year and I met him at the airport and he was a very polite person and because I live without a family I offered him to live with me and he welcomed that and he learned Arabic from me and we talked about Christianity and Islam and he was able to convinces me that Christianity is the correct religion and I converted to Christianity so I was the first one convert to a Christian from kuwait and John advised me to invest in bitcoin and I trust John so I borrowed $300,000 and bought over 600 BTC John helped me buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data insideand he asked me to save this paper well And after one year the john come back to his country and I was trying to convince my community  to Christianity, but I was arrested for 5 years and my phone was also confiscated because Christianity is not welcome in my country and after I got out of prison I went to my house and i found it completely burnt because of racism and contempt for religions, from muslims,
 Then I went to the company where John was working, to look for his phone number but I couldn't find any data about him, and now the bank has filed a lawsuit against me before the court asking me to pay the loan in full after I lost my job and my house
       Sorry for the long post, my question is:
       i have created a new wallet Can I restore my old wallet data with the purchase reference number through my Visa Card ?

   Can anyone help me get my wallet back, because I am really in dire financial hardship and ostracized from my community and want to emigrate .     
    I knowing that all this is a test for me from my god

This is not a joke, please give me a solution
I'm really sorry if my English is not good

 

I did not find solid evidence of all of your words, there is no proof of purchase, proof of transactions or anything else that corroborates the truth with your story, I don't think we are can to help or provide a solution for your loss (if your story is true) without any evidence, regarding your sentence, I am also concerned about what happened to you and I don't think you should invite someone to convert to a religion in a country that has a majority religion and that clearly violates the laws of that country.

I don't thing he is lying. He just guessed that he can retrieve his loss from the purchase reference number through his Visa Card.

Call to VISA and your bank, they mast refund your sxam perchase.... I think

[tokyohd]

hello everybody
       I hope you will accept my presence and interact with me and solve my problem
       But before I raise my issue, I have to explain the story to you from the beginning
       I am from Kuwait and in 2014 I met an American friend called John via Tinder and he told me that he would come to work in Kuwait for a year and I met him at the airport and he was a very polite person and because I live without a family I offered him to live with me and he welcomed that and he learned Arabic from me and we talked about Christianity and Islam and he was able to convinces me that Christianity is the correct religion and I converted to Christianity so I was the first one convert to a Christian from kuwait and John advised me to invest in bitcoin and I trust John so I borrowed $300,000 and bought over 600 BTC John helped me buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data insideand he asked me to save this paper well And after one year the john come back to his country and I was trying to convince my community  to Christianity, but I was arrested for 5 years and my phone was also confiscated because Christianity is not welcome in my country and after I got out of prison I went to my house and i found it completely burnt because of racism and contempt for religions, from muslims,
 Then I went to the company where John was working, to look for his phone number but I couldn't find any data about him, and now the bank has filed a lawsuit against me before the court asking me to pay the loan in full after I lost my job and my house
       Sorry for the long post, my question is:
       i have created a new wallet Can I restore my old wallet data with the purchase reference number through my Visa Card ?

   Can anyone help me get my wallet back, because I am really in dire financial hardship and ostracized from my community and want to emigrate .     
    I knowing that all this is a test for me from my god

This is not a joke, please give me a solution
I'm really sorry if my English is not good

 

Which wallet do you use.? You should have kept the backup word or private key of the wallet safe. You can get your wallet back if you keep the private key in your wallet safe. That is why we must save the private key of our wallet safely to avoid such problems.

[worle1bm]

There are some recovery services which you can check online for bitcoin recovery but the fees would be high and your story is somehow not relevant for many of us.These online hook ups are in most cases a scam as far as i have seen and you have not presented any further information to seek help.If you don't have any keys in the first end then you don't any btc if you actually know this fact.

[Cookdata]

_snip_

This is sad! Is there not freedom in KUWAIT? I went to Kuwait's official government website to see their stands against other religions and this is what I found:

Christian families practice their own religious rituals with complete freedom in the churches found in Kuwait. This freedom is endorsed by the Kuwaiti government, a matter which enhances the coherence and interdependence of the nation.

Source: https://e.gov.kw/sites/kgoenglish/Pages/Visitors/AboutKuwait/CultureAndHeritageReligiousPractices.aspx

Kuwait is binded by Sharia but that doesn't stop others from practising other religions, did you try to force others into Christianity knowing Kuwait is a tough country that is core Islam by religion. There should be a law that will fight for you against this injustice and stupid act of imprisonment.

Do you have your Tinder details, since you found him through that medium, it is possible that you can get a lead through there. About your bitcoin, the chances of having access to your bitcoins are very very very low, if you don't have that info that was written down on paper, you have zero hope my friend.

Do you know the name of the wallet app on your phone, is it related to Blockchaindotinfo?

[Wiwo]

As impossible as it is to recover your wallet without your wallet seed or recovery phrase, you should at least try to share some details of the wallet such as the wallet address to see if the funds are available in the wallet, then we try to see if it an exchange wallet since you bought the Bitcoin through the bank there is a possibility it an exchange wallet that way you can use your username and other details to gain access to the wallet.and also try to look out for your friend on social media may be he can help you with some information, but prepare your mind that their is almost zero chance of gaining your Bitcoin back because you dont have the private key to the wallet and there is this funny but factual phrase. (Not you key not your Bitcoin) Good luck.

[kamilah147]

Have you checked what paper John gave you? Does the paper contain the recovery password? If it contains a recovery key, you can still get all your BTC. Just in case your friend is still nowhere to be found, I think your friend still has a copy of the key.
However, judging by the story you tell, I'm not so sure you invested that much money. And also the origin of the money is a loan, without large collateral, banks or financial services are very difficult to provide loans of that size.

[bitcrystal]

sorry about your loss, only way to get your bitcoin is if you can recover your seed pharse or wallets details or find your friend. how come you invested that huge amount in what you didnt take time to understand or make research ? also why did you have to borrow to invest? your story is not that clear but next time always make enough research before investing your penny into anything.

[skarais]

One main thing that boggles my mind too on which its impossible for someone to agree on getting some loan of 300k just because someone had  suggest him to buy bitcoin and also this man met on via
Tinder and he do even believed about religious matters which is really that impossible for someone to do give out much trust in a short  time.

That's why I doubt the story, but we never know what goes on behind the scenes for the OP and his experience with bitcoin. Of course if the whole story is true then he has lost two things i.e. he has lost his bitcoins and also he has violated his beliefs about religion brought by his ancestors.

But one thing doesn't make sense, why he never asked the person who lent him the money or whoever made him the wallet because I'm sure he couldn't afford to do it himself for such a large amount of money.

[blatchcorn]

This story is too bizarre for me to believe it but for the 1% chance that this is actually true, you should know by now that you should lawyer up right?

As for recovering your wallet — while the answer is almost always "your bitcoin is gone, move on", you didn't even give us any information on what exchange and what wallet software you used.

Clearly its full bizarre, he bought 600 BTC for 300,000$ which means one BTC costs 500$ and that price was seen in 2016/17. If OP is aware of BTC from such a long time then he must also know that you have to backup the seed or private keys somewhere. There is no way to recover your BTC if they are stored in decentralized wallet like Electrum and you don't have the seed of recovery.

[Franctoshi]

Looking at the whole story it looks like a scam story and it's a kinda difficult to believe.
But if that's true as you said the only way aside the paper and phone is  to look for John
because living with him for years even to the extent of getting converted by him means
that you should be having a lot of information about him , so continue to look for him
other than that everything is gone, Then focus on a new life.

[m_nief]

What kinds of paper gave by John for you? that have phrase words with bitcoin wallet and ability to restored it, but I don't believe with last 5 years and right now bitcoin pump drastically still have your bitcoin fund. Except not respect with your friend John maybe he was sold your bitcoin fund because last 5 years bitcoin still have lower price. Better check again with paper gave by John and see there as phrase for access wallet or not, if there are phrase wallet data you can use to import and log in to check still have bitcoin there or not.

[hyudien]

The answer is that no one can help you with this. You are the legal key holder, sole, and cannot be accessed by anyone. Because it was carelessness, I can't help but tell you to be honest.

One more thing, don't bring religion into the context of this conversation because it has nothing to do with Bitcoin. So I beg of you not as if there is a perspective of favoring one ideology over another. Your story is too annoying to relate to religion.

[serjent05]

One more thing, don't bring religion into the context of this conversation because it has nothing to do with Bitcoin. So I beg of you not as if there is a perspective of favoring one ideology over another. Your story is too annoying to relate to religion.

I do not think this is about religion and Bitcoin, OP is just sharing his experience and trust with the person who introduced Bitcoin to him.  He is establishing a sense of introduction of himself and the guy that has something to do with his lost Bitcoin. After all, OP is inquiring about our possible help to retrieve his lost Bitcoin.  Sadly we can't do anything about it.  Or probably it is weighing inside that he needs to spit it out in order to at least lessen the burden.

[Quickset]

It’s sad that you lost your bitcoin. But there is no way you can get it back. You would have learnt an important lesson by now and will never believe anyone you meet on social media.

[rmhuntley]

Of course this is very unfortunate if someone has to lose their bitcoin especially for beginners losing bitcoin is a form of their desperation in investing in the crypto world, for that we don't easily trust anyone in this investment, let alone some say they can multiply bitcoins or the hatching process for example like our passwords can be taken by irresponsible people, we really hope that this doesn't happen again to other miners.and also don't easily trust people we don't know, let alone they say they can multiply bitcoins by a very small amount reasonable

[Luzin]

Of course this is very unfortunate if someone has to lose their bitcoin especially for beginners losing bitcoin is a form of their desperation in investing in the crypto world, for that we don't easily trust anyone in this investment, let alone some say they can multiply bitcoins or the hatching process for example like our passwords can be taken by irresponsible people, we really hope that this doesn't happen again to other miners.and also don't easily trust people we don't know, let alone they say they can multiply bitcoins by a very small amount reasonable

There have been many cases like this but I wonder why there are still so many people who believe in unreasonable offers. I even got the offer but that's all I ignored. In the online field I will not dare to transact with people I just know. Whatever he says I consider to be untrue, I prefer my assets to be safe rather than giving to people who offer greater profits.