Do You Think New Casino Should Partnered With Bounty Managers To Gain Trust?

[Naficopa]

Do You Think New Casino Should Partnered With Bounty Managers To Gain the Trust of the community and start on the right foot
take the case of Bitlucy where bounty manager Royse777 is the one opening and managing the thread, the thread is just perfect and everything on the casino home page is well placed.

Do you think it's a big advantage for the new casino that they have a bounty manager to be part of the team, we have a good lineup of reputable managers here.

Ofc, man. This is how "reputation" works. Casino hire trusted bounty manager, like Yahoo or Hhampuz. They share this "trust" (abstract term) with this casino. Win win situation. So yeah, for casino it will be an advantage, otherwise it will be much harder for casino to get trust between users of bitcointalk (if it do not have a big name known between people)

Everyone has their mind set - some people want to do marketing this way some want the other way.
But whatever is the strategy - consistency is the key because marketing is not a one time process. It goes almost daily. So choose a someone really worth choosing.

[m2017]

Do You Think New Casino Should Partnered With Bounty Managers To Gain the Trust of the community and start on the right foot
take the case of Bitlucy where bounty manager Royse777 is the one opening and managing the thread, the thread is just perfect and everything on the casino home page is well placed.

Do you think it's a big advantage for the new casino that they have a bounty manager to be part of the team, we have a good lineup of reputable managers here.

Ofc, man. This is how "reputation" works. Casino hire trusted bounty manager, like Yahoo or Hhampuz. They share this "trust" (abstract term) with this casino. Win win situation. So yeah, for casino it will be an advantage, otherwise it will be much harder for casino to get trust between users of bitcointalk (if it do not have a big name known between people)

But can this "win-win" scheme have a negative connotation? For example, a casino gains a reputation for itself thanks to the name of a famous manager and at one fine moment disappears with all the money of its players. Indeed, in this case, it turns out that the manager accelerated the process of accumulating trust and contributed to the implementation of the casino's plans, although he didn't know this and was unconsciously drawn into this story. Probably, managers would do well to carefully check new casinos and not rush to cooperate with everyone in a row, because this is fraught with negative consequences for both the manager and ordinary gamblers.

[harizen]

Ofc, man. This is how "reputation" works. Casino hire trusted bounty manager, like Yahoo or Hhampuz. They share this "trust" (abstract term) with this casino. Win win situation. So yeah, for casino it will be an advantage, otherwise it will be much harder for casino to get trust between users of bitcointalk (if it do not have a big name known between people)

You have a good point there and it's an obvious one. The fact that they hired reputable campaign managers here is one good step in building a reputation here in the community. It also means that they are willing to spend money on advertising and marketing as just placing a banner elsewhere is not enough. This forum is the largest crypto-discussion platform and the gambling section here is one of the active sections here making it a good risk to also spend advertising here.

However, it doesn't change the fact that there's a chance these sites might use the popularity of campaign managers as part of the plan of becoming a shit site later on. That case is possible to happen although I doubt that it will for real since building a reputation is really hard and if the site already earned it, that is something a good achievement as it will last for a long run.

Anyways since sometimes I miss some issues here in the forum, is there a gambling site already that turned out scam after being handled by Hhampuz and Yahoo?  I'm referring only to their previously handled campaigns and not to other managers. Just out of curiosity. There are closed ones but the exit was smooth

[usekevin]

Ofc, man. This is how "reputation" works. Casino hire trusted bounty manager, like Yahoo or Hhampuz. They share this "trust" (abstract term) with this casino. Win win situation. So yeah, for casino it will be an advantage, otherwise it will be much harder for casino to get trust between users of bitcointalk (if it do not have a big name known between people)

You have a good point there and it's an obvious one. The fact that they hired reputable campaign managers here is one good step in building a reputation here in the community. It also means that they are willing to spend money on advertising and marketing as just placing a banner elsewhere is not enough. This forum is the largest crypto-discussion platform and the gambling section here is one of the active sections here making it a good risk to also spend advertising here.

However, it doesn't change the fact that there's a chance these sites might use the popularity of campaign managers as part of the plan of becoming a shit site later on. That case is possible to happen although I doubt that it will for real since building a reputation is really hard and if the site already earned it, that is something a good achievement as it will last for a long run.

Anyways since sometimes I miss some issues here in the forum, is there a gambling site already that turned out scam after being handled by Hhampuz and Yahoo?  I'm referring only to their previously handled campaigns and not to other managers. Just out of curiosity. There are closed ones but the exit was smooth

Hiring the reputed manager will increase the website popularity in the community.So it automatically increased the number of users to the website.The project manager places a vital role in the marketing in the forum.Secondly you need to loyal to the players,then they get good trust on your website.Once the feedback was increased on your website.The users automatically refer to his friends,it will double the users.

[doomloop]

Some form of promotion done by a casino/sports betting platform gives more visibility and trust. This trust can be seen even high when the promotion is done through a trusted manager of the community. When the participants were paid in their own gambling site account, these users will initially give a try and further spread the word if they feel satisfied with the performance.

The gambling casino's can hire trusted members here to start their signature campaign but i will not trust that the casino is a good one based on only this factor. For me, if a trusted campaign manager manages a gambling site campaign, i will be sure that the funds are escrowed and there will be no problem in the management of the campaign , however to trust the gambling site, we need the feedback from the players and their experience playing on the site.

This is true. Remember rose? A long time and trusted member here. He/she manage a new casino and then it turned out to be a scam later on. On your second sentence, you are saying that funds for the campaign must be escrowed by another member and not by a reputable manager?

Maybe that's better since not all trusted managers are clean but I think some are exposed here already that they are doing some shady acts in the background. Not all feedback are accurate so if I were you I will also try the gambling site myself and compare my reviews to the others but if we aren't totally sure on how to judge the site then waiting for more feedback can help.

[Lanatsa]

Some form of promotion done by a casino/sports betting platform gives more visibility and trust. This trust can be seen even high when the promotion is done through a trusted manager of the community. When the participants were paid in their own gambling site account, these users will initially give a try and further spread the word if they feel satisfied with the performance.

The gambling casino's can hire trusted members here to start their signature campaign but i will not trust that the casino is a good one based on only this factor. For me, if a trusted campaign manager manages a gambling site campaign, i will be sure that the funds are escrowed and there will be no problem in the management of the campaign , however to trust the gambling site, we need the feedback from the players and their experience playing on the site.

This is true. Remember rose? A long time and trusted member here. He/she manage a new casino and then it turned out to be a scam later on. On your second sentence, you are saying that funds for the campaign must be escrowed by another member and not by a reputable manager?

Maybe that's better since not all trusted managers are clean but I think some are exposed here already that they are doing some shady acts in the background. Not all feedback are accurate so if I were you I will also try the gambling site myself and compare my reviews to the others but if we aren't totally sure on how to judge the site then waiting for more feedback can help.

Trusting a manager specially new ones is really hard since no one could really able to tell if he wont really be running of those funds since he's part of the team or even a member of this forum thats why we cant

precisely able to tell unless we do tend to take a try and prove it out and come to think that even to those popular manager nowadays or this present time starts on being a newbie one but they've done great
and able to prove out themselves to be worthy and only a few of them had able to last long into this forum.There's still who do end up on being a scam thats why its really important
on having considerations on checking feedback and real time experience if you could able to find one but if not then its better to wait up.

[Tumanggor]

Do You Think New Casino Should Partnered With Bounty Managers To Gain the Trust of the community and start on the right foot
take the case of Bitlucy where bounty manager Royse777 is the one opening and managing the thread, the thread is just perfect and everything on the casino home page is well placed.

Do you think it's a big advantage for the new casino that they have a bounty manager to be part of the team, we have a good lineup of reputable managers here.

Ofc, man. This is how "reputation" works. Casino hire trusted bounty manager, like Yahoo or Hhampuz. They share this "trust" (abstract term) with this casino. Win win situation. So yeah, for casino it will be an advantage, otherwise it will be much harder for casino to get trust between users of bitcointalk (if it do not have a big name known between people)

This is valid, a trusted bounty manager will speed up gambling sites (who hire them) to get great trust from other members

but the consistency of the two makes bounty managers newcomers, difficult to compete with their reputation. in the case of royse777, it looks like he cheated and the scammers managed to take advantage of his reputation

[blockman]

Hiring the reputed manager will increase the website popularity in the community.So it automatically increased the number of users to the website.

There's also the possibility that the project itself could lose its reputation. But certainly, hiring a known manager that has great reputation will also bring them in.

The project manager places a vital role in the marketing in the forum.Secondly you need to loyal to the players,then they get good trust on your website.Once the feedback was increased on your website.The users automatically refer to his friends,it will double the users.

That's the actual cycle when the casino has built its reputation and that's with the help of the manager. It is no doubt that it really helps them to go up and have that high traffic and take more customers because of the manager's job.

[AmoreJaz]

Hiring the reputed manager will increase the website popularity in the community.So it automatically increased the number of users to the website.

There's also the possibility that the project itself could lose its reputation. But certainly, hiring a known manager that has great reputation will also bring them in.

The project manager places a vital role in the marketing in the forum.Secondly you need to loyal to the players,then they get good trust on your website.Once the feedback was increased on your website.The users automatically refer to his friends,it will double the users.

That's the actual cycle when the casino has built its reputation and that's with the help of the manager. It is no doubt that it really helps them to go up and have that high traffic and take more customers because of the manager's job.

but in the long run, the increase of players will also be the responsibility of the casino itself. because even if they hired a known and reputable CM, if they are not innovating their services, games, and not taking care their players, they will also lose some players. the best way is to work side by side, while the CM is doing his job, the casino is also doing their job on how to sustain and increase their players.

[lienfaye]

but in the long run, the increase of players will also be the responsibility of the casino itself. because even if they hired a known and reputable CM, if they are not innovating their services, games, and not taking care their players, they will also lose some players. the best way is to work side by side, while the CM is doing his job, the casino is also doing their job on how to sustain and increase their players.

Thats true. The casino needs to gain the trust of their players by providing a good service and experience. That way they can maintain and attract more players with the help of the well known manager. It doesnt only rely on how successful the campaign is, because even the CM is reputable and many gamblers are showing interest, it will be futile if the casino itself is not good enough for the convenience of their players.

[bitterguy28]

There are several casino (actually some are popular now) had partnered with reputable manager here in forum , things that sometimes made me think that they are not just partner in managerial for  signature and bounty but also partnership already in gambling business.
I don't wanna name one , but at least we can understand this in the Service section combining this gambling section,

How can you say this and do you have any evidence that the reputed campaign manager has any share in the gambling casino too?

It's useless to assume things without any evidence. I think casinos just hire the campaign managers to manage the campaign and not make them the owner of the business 

well if you will clearly understand what he says , meaning the manager he is pointing is partnering in bounty related things and promotions , though he had some thoughts that maybe as some part they are in partnership in actual business though you are correct this is a thing that needed proofs because none of the managers here admitted that they are part of the team or the gambling site so this is useless to assume unless there are evidence .

[btc78]

There are several casino (actually some are popular now) had partnered with reputable manager here in forum , things that sometimes made me think that they are not just partner in managerial for  signature and bounty but also partnership already in gambling business.
I don't wanna name one , but at least we can understand this in the Service section combining this gambling section,

How can you say this and do you have any evidence that the reputed campaign manager has any share in the gambling casino too?

Lol i have nothing to prove because I was just thinking about that scenario but doesn't mean that I completely know or have prove of their connivance .

It's useless to assume things without any evidence. I think casinos just hire the campaign managers to manage the campaign and not make them the owner of the business 

is there any problem of assuming? and besides we have our  own thinking of matter, some have malice (like mine) while others are plain and simple 

anyway the topic stands  about the bounty managers partnering their site owners.

[serjent05]

There are several casino (actually some are popular now) had partnered with reputable manager here in forum , things that sometimes made me think that they are not just partner in managerial for  signature and bounty but also partnership already in gambling business.
I don't wanna name one , but at least we can understand this in the Service section combining this gambling section,

How can you say this and do you have any evidence that the reputed campaign manager has any share in the gambling casino too?

Lol i have nothing to prove because I was just thinking about that scenario but doesn't mean that I completely know or have prove of their connivance .

There is one known manager that happens to partner with a Casino but it ended up badly.  (though I still respect and trust that manager, she just happen to be a victim of trusting someone easily)

It's useless to assume things without any evidence. I think casinos just hire the campaign managers to manage the campaign and not make them the owner of the business 

is there any problem of assuming? and besides we have our  own thinking of matter, some have malice (like mine) while others are plain and simple 
anyway the topic stands  about the bounty managers partnering their site owners.

Since this is an open discussion I don't think there is a problem on assuming something as long as the one stating that assumption made it clear that it is all his opinion and possibly not true.

It is essential to partner with a reputable Bounty Manager to gain trust.  Since reputable managers are often looked-up, those who respect the BM will not hesitate to try any Casino that he partnered with since reputable manager will always check for themselves the credibility of the Casino and will do appropriate decisions according to their findings.

[mindrust]

We have no record of bounty managers admitting they are part owner of one casino, and I don't think they will disclose it, it's a conflict of, interest who will hire a bounty manager that is a part owner or owner of their competitor, they are good as an independent bounty manager than being part of the team and if they are part of the team they are not going to disclose it to protect their hard-earned reputation here.

How is advertising your own casino promote conflict of interests? Isn't the goal of bounty campaigns to make your brand well known? If the owner is good at marketing then he/she should take the position for the betterment of their company. It's also faster to answer questions since you got the answer to every question they have for the campaign that you're running.

Aren't we thinking too much here?

Let's suppose you own a company and you hire a trusted marketing manager who increases your sales by the extra mile. Will you be happy giving him good pay or will you make him a partner in your company and he can claim profits of the company? I think no company wants that employees started to become the owner of the company.

I hope this example makes it clear that managers aren't the owners of the casinos. 

I want to agree but the manager can't stay innocent if the casino was a scammer.

People who manage, promote, shill for the scams is as guilty as the scammers.

The only exception here is, if the casino wasn't exposed as a scammer earlier and the manager didn't know about it. Then you can't blame the manager because he very well might be a victim as well. But you also can't know if the manager was a part of the scam.

It is a very difficult situation.

[blockman]

The project manager places a vital role in the marketing in the forum.Secondly you need to loyal to the players,then they get good trust on your website.Once the feedback was increased on your website.The users automatically refer to his friends,it will double the users.

That's the actual cycle when the casino has built its reputation and that's with the help of the manager. It is no doubt that it really helps them to go up and have that high traffic and take more customers because of the manager's job.

but in the long run, the increase of players will also be the responsibility of the casino itself. because even if they hired a known and reputable CM, if they are not innovating their services, games, and not taking care their players, they will also lose some players. the best way is to work side by side, while the CM is doing his job, the casino is also doing their job on how to sustain and increase their players.

Yes, it's no longer the problem of the manager and that's really how they should take care of the customers that have trusted them with the help of the manager.
It's their business and they're the ones that should take full responsibility and on how they'll make those customers that are attracted by the manager, maintaining them is already out of scope by the manager.

[masulum]

Yes, it's no longer the problem of the manager and that's really how they should take care of the customers that have trusted them with the help of the manager.
It's their business and they're the ones that should take full responsibility and on how they'll make those customers that are attracted by the manager, maintaining them is already out of scope by the manager.

Simply example, why famous brands use artists when advertising their products? There are three important points I can mention, these are just a few and there are many others.
- Fame
- Target customers' trust in the artist
- Network

In this forum, who is the artist? he/she Reputable Admin, Staff, Mod and BM/CM. By using BM that has a good reputation, then
- Forum users put their trust in the casinos supported by BM.
- The fame of BM who has a good reputation
- User attention

All of this is sufficient reason why the project uses the services of a reputable BM for its advertising here.

[KTChampions]

There are several casino (actually some are popular now) had partnered with reputable manager here in forum , things that sometimes made me think that they are not just partner in managerial for  signature and bounty but also partnership already in gambling business.
I don't wanna name one , but at least we can understand this in the Service section combining this gambling section,

First, what does it matter (who is in what relationship with whom) if everyone does their job honestly?
Secondly, if we are talking about popular casinos, then there are Drake-level partnerships. I do not think that any ordinary btt user or group of users is interesting for a popular casino as a partner. Too different financial levels.

[blockman]

Yes, it's no longer the problem of the manager and that's really how they should take care of the customers that have trusted them with the help of the manager.
It's their business and they're the ones that should take full responsibility and on how they'll make those customers that are attracted by the manager, maintaining them is already out of scope by the manager.

Simply example, why famous brands use artists when advertising their products? There are three important points I can mention, these are just a few and there are many others.
- Fame
- Target customers' trust in the artist
- Network

In this forum, who is the artist? he/she Reputable Admin, Staff, Mod and BM/CM. By using BM that has a good reputation, then
- Forum users put their trust in the casinos supported by BM.
- The fame of BM who has a good reputation
- User attention

All of this is sufficient reason why the project uses the services of a reputable BM for its advertising here.

You nailed all of those and that's right. There's already the network built from the BMs and that's why they're also being hired by a casino that needs help for their business.
It's all about the promotion and the target market and they see that it's appropriate for them to use it. Just as you've said, like the traditional way of promoting, BMs do help to make things set for the new casinos that will hire them.