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April 25, 2022, 08:24:43 AM Last edit: November 30, 2023, 10:31:37 AM by Symmetrick |
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April 25, 2022, 08:29:34 AM |
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From when it's not working? When you used this method last time? I wasn’t aware about this method to use image. I always uploaded image to the image hosting site and copy the bbcode from there. Didn’t even know such method existed lol.
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I wouldn't accuse bitcointalk block image from medium without additional proof, it's possible Medium now forbid hotlinking or automatically block certain IP/domain to prevent DDoS.
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April 25, 2022, 10:05:00 AM |
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Now you have to download this picture to your computer, then upload it to the image hosting and only then paste the resulting code into the forum. It became uncomfortable.
Jeez....that's the way I've been posting images here ever since I learned how to do it. I didn't realize there was another way. I doubt there's any sort of bias against Medium on the part of the forum or a ban against linking to images hosted there, because I suspect we would have had an announcement (though I could be wrong). What I'm wondering is whether anyone else is having the same problem you're having, Ratimov. That would probably answer your question in full, though it might not provide a solution.
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I usually hotlink images from my own server, so i cannot say i've experienced this problem before... This being said, there could be multiple explanations, i've listed them from most plausible to least plausible: - Medium started disallowing hotlinking from their server. It's an age-old problem: services suddenly realize that their bandwidth is being used to hotlink images without them being able to monetize said traffic and start blocking hotlinking without giving notice. A long, long time ago, i even had people threatening to take me to court because i disabled hotlinking from my servers (they were stealing my bandwidth to serve my images straight from my host without even asking me, so i basically replied: go ahead, i'll see you in court... needless to say that nothing happened)
- Medium changed something on their WAF, scripting or local firewall without the intention to block hotlinking, but still with the same end result
- Bitcointalk is behind cloudflare, and it has been known to act strange when posting (for example) blocks of code
- Bitcointalk itself changed something in their image proxy settings
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April 25, 2022, 10:57:38 AM |
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I tested some images. My take is that the "*" could be the key here. The format of all the image links from Medium containing this character. I couldn't find any other servers having that kind of link format to test. examples here: https://miro.medium.com/max/800/1*ON0B-_gy1JK0YbGBOqkB6A.png https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*R5BU57AzSSokQ31btX1SDg.jpeg Interesting that the format of the links didn't change, there are old posts with the "*" in them. Theymos it the one to answer the other PNGs are working fine. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-icons-png.flaticon.com%2F512%2F29%2F29072.png&t=664&c=ME6JOrmhpcDfrg)
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I usually hotlink images from my own server That might cause copyright problems: the forum for instance has this explanation: Copyright If you are complaining about an image located at ip.bitcointalk.org: That image is hosted elsewhere, and we are only proxying it from the original location in order to protect user privacy. You should not complain to us. Hotlinking gives credit by default. there could be multiple explanations, i've listed them from most plausible to least plausible: - Medium started disallowing hotlinking from their server. It's an age-old problem: services suddenly realize that their bandwidth is being used to hotlink images without them being able to monetize said traffic and start blocking hotlinking without giving notice.
That's easy to test: hotlinking to medium.com works fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 26, 2022, 05:45:17 AM |
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I tested some images. My take is that the "*" could be the key here. The format of all the image links from Medium containing this character. I couldn't find any other servers having that kind of link format to test. --snip--
Hmm... That's interesting... A * isn't a common character to see in an url (afaik). Maybe cloudflare or the imageproxy can't handle this... I usually hotlink images from my own server That might cause copyright problems: the forum for instance has this explanation: Copyright If you are complaining about an image located at ip.bitcointalk.org: That image is hosted elsewhere, and we are only proxying it from the original location in order to protect user privacy. You should not complain to us. Hotlinking gives credit by default. True, but i don't host pictures that are copyrighted... As a matter of fact, i usually host diagrams i've created myself or screenshots from open source applications... there could be multiple explanations, i've listed them from most plausible to least plausible: - Medium started disallowing hotlinking from their server. It's an age-old problem: services suddenly realize that their bandwidth is being used to hotlink images without them being able to monetize said traffic and start blocking hotlinking without giving notice.
That's easy to test: hotlinking to medium.com works fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Eventough this test is conclusive, there's always the chance medium is blocking bitcointalk's imageproxy and nothing else (or they could be using a blacklist instead of a whitelist). It's not that common, so this is probably not the case, but it's certainly not impossible. This way, your test would run fine, but images inserted into bitcointalk would not...
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April 26, 2022, 07:35:27 AM |
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I have to copy each image from their site , then upload it to the hosting, and from there add it to the text. Everything used to be faster and more convenient.
Even though I personally dislike adding various extensions to my browser, sometimes there is simply no other option if you're looking for comfort. I suggest you take a look at the imgur Uploader extension for Google chrome browser. Imgur Uploader is a tool that lets you easily upload images and screenshots to your personal imgur account or anonymously. Just right click on an image anywhere on the web, then click 'Rehost Image.' Easy as that.
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April 26, 2022, 07:47:10 AM Last edit: April 26, 2022, 07:58:39 AM by TheBeardedBaby |
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I tested some images. My take is that the "*" could be the key here. The format of all the image links from Medium containing this character. I couldn't find any other servers having that kind of link format to test. --snip--
Hmm... That's interesting... A * isn't a common character to see in an url (afaik). Maybe cloudflare or the imageproxy can't handle this... If someone with a running server could test it, just make a image file with a "*" in the name and post it here to see if that will work so we can cross out this suggestion. I know LoyceV has a server running but I don't know if he has the time for that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . EDIT: Thanks mocacinno for your quick reaction ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) One crossed out.
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--snip-- If someone with a running server could test it, just make a image file with a "*" in the name and post it here to see if that will work so we can cross out this suggestion. I know LoyceV has a server running but I don't know if he has the time for that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . here you go ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmocacinno.com%2Fhotlinkimages%2Fhw%2A_small.png&t=664&c=yBbC8O5a9qJkUQ) So, apparently, it's not the "*" symbol The complete url is: https:// mocacinno.com/ hotlinkimages/ hw*_small.png
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April 26, 2022, 06:16:31 PM |
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Now you have to download this picture to your computer, then upload it to the image hosting and only then paste the resulting code into the forum. It became uncomfortable.
It takes only few seconds to right click, save and than upload any image and post link in forum. I don't see how it can be so uncomfortable unless you are posting images with every single post you make, and that would be borderline crazy. here you go ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) How do you navigate so many tabs in your browser? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 26, 2022, 06:25:37 PM |
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How do you navigate so many tabs in your browser? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ctrl Tab
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Medium is blocking the image proxy (ip.bitcointalk.org) from accessing its images. I don't try to bypass blocks like these.
I could allow Medium images to be hotlinked directly rather than being proxied through ip.bitcointalk.org. Medium blog owners wouldn't have access to the IP logs from this, right? Does anyone think that this would be a bad idea?
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Does anyone think that this would be a bad idea? Yes! I rather not see Medium images than give them access to Bitcointalk user's IP addresses. I like the image proxy and I think it should remain active for all sites without exceptions.
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April 26, 2022, 07:25:43 PM |
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Does anyone think that this would be a bad idea? Yes! I rather not see Medium images than give them access to Bitcointalk user's IP addresses. I like the image proxy and I think it should remain active for all sites without exceptions. Agree with LoyceV better to keep all images proxied through ip.bitcointalk.org, and let say if you allow Medium then you will open a door to requests to add more exceptions e.g. Tumblr, Quora, linkedin.
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April 27, 2022, 06:30:53 AM |
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How do you navigate so many tabs in your browser? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ctrl Tab ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The worst part is: i usually have even more tabs open... I especially did some closing before taking a pic, leaving only the tabs i really need open
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April 27, 2022, 09:37:14 AM |
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I could allow Medium images to be hotlinked directly rather than being proxied through ip.bitcointalk.org. Medium blog owners wouldn't have access to the IP logs from this, right? Does anyone think that this would be a bad idea?
Anyone knows how many people here are actually doing something similar like Ratimov? I don't know anyone else who is using medium images like this, and I don't think we need to change anything in forum just to make one person more comfortable ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) He said that images showed before in forum, that means Medium made some recent changes with blocking the image proxy. The worst part is: i usually have even more tabs open... I especially did some closing before taking a pic, leaving only the tabs i really need open
I think you have serious case of multi tab addiction sir. People say woman are usually better in multitasking, but I guess they never examined bitcointalk members ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 27, 2022, 09:46:30 AM |
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Anyone knows how many people here are actually doing something similar like Ratimov? I don't know anyone else who is using medium images like this, and I don't think we need to change anything in forum just to make one person more comfortable ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) He said that images showed before in forum, that means Medium made some recent changes with blocking the image proxy. So you're saying Ratimov caused Medium to block Bitcointalk's image proxy? It could be they didn't mind just a few images being hotlinked, but don't like it on a massive scale.
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April 27, 2022, 10:59:46 AM |
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So you're saying Ratimov caused Medium to block Bitcointalk's image proxy? It could be they didn't mind just a few images being hotlinked, but don't like it on a massive scale.
No I am not saying that. All I am saying is that probably nobody else is using images from Medium like this, so it would be statistical error to change anything in forum just because of him (unless he is some VIP). Medium probably blocked some other similar websites, not just bitcointalk image proxy.
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