Horse Racing and Gambling on it should be banned

[Fundamentals Of]

We may have often seen animals used as a bet and that's hard to stop because humans enjoy such entertainment. But there should be some kind of ban from the government that starts banning animals as bets because the times are different now than they were some time ago. Horses, dogs, chickens, and other animals are used only for the satisfaction of humans to gamble, which should be stopped. But we're still dealing with traditional bets that use animals, so I think it's still going to take some time to really stop and make people aware.

Could you be more specific as to why this should be stopped? Many animals exist literally because people need them for some reason, if you forbid this they will simply be killed and cease to exist (or will you feed them from your income?).
The second question is more general - why do you think that your ideas about how to properly use animals are more correct than, for example, mine?  

The animals help humans a lot on the farm and instead of being used as a bet, it's better not to torture them just as a means of human gratification. In many countries, horses and chickens are used for consumption rather than as bets. At the same time, some dogs use it for consumption. Although some people still use those animals to bet.

I do not say that my idea is the most correct because what I think is right may not necessarily be right according to other people.

I agree. It is one thing to make use of animals for food production and for labor purposes such as moving people and things from one place to another and it is quite another to use them for plain fun at their expense. It would be okay to use them for fun actually like when you are horse riding or playing with your dog, but it is completely bad to use them regardless of what they will go through, just for the sake of your pleasure in things like horse fighting and dog fighting.

[Oshosondy]

it's hard to ban horse racing because this is one of the old types of bets that have fans who are usually rich people. Apart from horse racing, there are also some other races that I feel need to be banned such as dog races, sad to see when dogs are made into racing animals and their bodies are tortured because only the skinny and very hungry will surely win the race.

The approach should be, taking care of the horses, to ban it is cruel, that is what such horses are meant for and used to make money. I just see this like people saying bitcoin PoW mining should be banned because it is producing gases that can cause global warming whereas it supposed to be how the world can produce green electricity that do not produces gases that cause global warming. Why ban when many people are making living with the horses businesses that is related to racing.

[Asiska02]

For centuries now horses have been used as a means of transportation or carrying goods from one place to another. They are been whipped severally without conscience even if they can’t go on any longer. It has no much difference with what they’re been used for in sports. I don’t think it will be banned because of this reason, but they should at least consider the sick ones not to participate in the sports until when strong and fit for it.

[AicecreaME]

For centuries now horses have been used as a means of transportation or carrying goods from one place to another. They are been whipped severally without conscience even if they can’t go on any longer. It has no much difference with what they’re been used for in sports. I don’t think it will be banned because of this reason, but they should at least consider the sick ones not to participate in the sports until when strong and fit for it.

Horses being used in trasportation to carry humans or heavy loads is just as cruel as making the horses run tracks just for the sake of bet and entertainment. Ages ago, when there was little to no advanced innovation at all, humans improvised to make their lives better and easier. One of the things human developed was carriage wherein it was put on the back of a horse in order to carry goods or people to transfer them from one place to another. This is the old way of transportation due to lack of technology and innovation back then. People had no choice but to make something to ease their burden.

However, we are now in the 21st century. And making an argument that just centers on the idea that something has been long existing, therefore it's still okay, is just purely wrong. You don't use that to invalidate the problem today. Because as we all know, many years ago is far different from today. Right now, we have advanced technology and a lot of innovations that can help humans to transport goods and services are available. There are many other form of entertainment as well that don't involve animal cruelty. Hence, this should stop. Even those horse carrying carriage should stop.

If you are not aware, many organizations are pushing this movement. Not only the ones which involve gambling, but also those other things that just depicts animal cruelty. That's why peta has been protesting against it and other animal advocates. Although just in return, the government must ensure that those people who use it as livelihood will have a fallback once they ban and made it illegal.

[Reatim]

Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.

[Boristhecat]

I should note that after covid vaccination there is a significant increase in heart attacks among athletes, including football players. I won't develop any conspiracy theories around this, but it has attracted a lot of attention.
As for comparisons with human sports, I agree with you, but there is a nuance: everywhere there is some acceptable percentage of deaths after which sport becomes unacceptable. For example, it was great in boxing before, and after the legislators ordered the boxing federation to fix it or close it, doping requirements and some rules were changed in favor of athletes. This greatly reduced the number of deaths in the ring (and out of it).
Now the important question is what is the actual mortality rate among racehorses and whether we can consider it acceptable to require a change in the format of the competition or something else to reduce it.

We have to accept that some animals are being used to make money. Some of them function that way not just because its necessary but tradition. Horse raising will always be a traditional game and it will never be banned because there will be lots of gamblers that will disagree. There are really unacceptable animals being used in gambling but we have to deal with it.

Yes, I do not see anything reprehensible to honestly admit that humanity uses animals for its own benefit (the simplest example is we eat them). So it was and so it will be, and this is due to humanism - most value human life and interests higher than the life of a chicken, for example. In my opinion, this is correct. I am rather afraid of the activity of those who want to equate human life with the life of an animal than the order of things that exists now.

[madnessteat]

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Humans are very inherently cruel, so many turn a blind eye to the death of a horse during a race or the abuse of animals during their exploitation.

Every day a huge number of people in the world die in a variety of situations ranging from diseases such as the common flu to wars. Few people pay attention to this, let alone animals used for racing. 

[seoincorporation]

I don't think it should be banned, it should be virtualized.

I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.

[xSkylarx]

I know this is some kind of cruelty, but this is a really long-running sport and I know a lot of NGOs are campaigning to ban this, but it still failed. This is also like the cockfighting where all of the roosters that are lost usually die, or if not, they will be killed in the end because of the injuries. I know this is the most famous bet and they are still unable to ban it. I'm not for or against it, but it's still cruel, but when it comes to money, no one can stop it, and it's also about gambling, which a lot of big bosses partake in.

[KTChampions]

Could you be more specific as to why this should be stopped? Many animals exist literally because people need them for some reason, if you forbid this they will simply be killed and cease to exist (or will you feed them from your income?).
The second question is more general - why do you think that your ideas about how to properly use animals are more correct than, for example, mine? 

The animals help humans a lot on the farm and instead of being used as a bet, it's better not to torture them just as a means of human gratification. In many countries, horses and chickens are used for consumption rather than as bets. At the same time, some dogs use it for consumption. Although some people still use those animals to bet.

I do not say that my idea is the most correct because what I think is right may not necessarily be right according to other people.

But when they are used as bets, they also help people. After all, if people do this, it means they have such a need. I understand that somewhere there is a border where the treatment of animals becomes cruel and unacceptable, but to be honest, I don’t know where it is and at what point we should put the interests of animals above the interests of man.

[m2017]

Could you be more specific as to why this should be stopped? Many animals exist literally because people need them for some reason, if you forbid this they will simply be killed and cease to exist (or will you feed them from your income?).
The second question is more general - why do you think that your ideas about how to properly use animals are more correct than, for example, mine? 

The animals help humans a lot on the farm and instead of being used as a bet, it's better not to torture them just as a means of human gratification. In many countries, horses and chickens are used for consumption rather than as bets. At the same time, some dogs use it for consumption. Although some people still use those animals to bet.

I do not say that my idea is the most correct because what I think is right may not necessarily be right according to other people.

But when they are used as bets, they also help people.

I would be interested to know how betting on animals helps people? As food, everything is clear to me, but as a subject of bets - no. Would you care to enlighten me on this matter?

After all, if people do this, it means they have such a need.

Need what? Having fun betting on animals? Looking forward to victory and bet winnings? Is this what people need? I've never bet on animals (this doesn't make me a saint in any way), but I just don't understand the need a bit.

I understand that somewhere there is a border where the treatment of animals becomes cruel and unacceptable, but to be honest, I don’t know where it is and at what point we should put the interests of animals above the interests of man.

But for me it is difficult to define this border. Is it cruelty when a jockey makes horse run as hard as can? Is this very different from a horse on its own running fast somewhere in the wild being chased by predators?

[carlfebz2]

I know this is some kind of cruelty, but this is a really long-running sport and I know a lot of NGOs are campaigning to ban this, but it still failed. This is also like the cockfighting where all of the roosters that are lost usually die, or if not, they will be killed in the end because of the injuries. I know this is the most famous bet and they are still unable to ban it. I'm not for or against it, but it's still cruel, but when it comes to money, no one can stop it, and it's also about gambling, which a lot of big bosses partake in.

Thats what he should consider it out that there are lots of debates or argumentation about this particular sport about animal cruelty and its not really just limited to this but also in other animal racing type of

sport that existing as of this moment or present which there might be issue or complaints raised but this isnt something nor be enough for it to be banned or stopped.Its true that this had been a long-running kind

of sport which its really impossible that it would really be getting a global ban because of such issue.Maybe if we do see huge number or being killed of these animals then there might be some
sudden u-turn of decision but we arent seeing that particular condition.

[Silberman]

I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.

The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.

According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).

Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.

Horse racing has faced such problems for decades and not much has changed since then, only the top racehorses receive good treatment while the rest receive awful treatment, and that is not even the worst part as there have been cases where the owners of racehorses which had great potential but failed to win kill the racehorse to receive the insurance money, this seems to have been the case in the death of Alydar which is considered to be the best racehorse to never win a championship, so without a doubt a great reform is needed but so far I do not see too much interest on doing so.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-killing-of-alydar/

[fullhdpixel]

The approach should be, taking care of the horses, to ban it is cruel, that is what such horses are meant for and used to make money. I just see this like people saying bitcoin PoW mining should be banned because it is producing gases that can cause global warming whereas it supposed to be how the world can produce green electricity that do not produces gases that cause global warming. Why ban when many people are making living with the horses businesses that is related to racing.

To ban horse betting or any other gambling sites is I think not cruel but it can be a right thing to do because we all know that so many lives have been destroyed due to gambling but what is cruel is when those horses are being forced to race to their own graveyards.

I think horses are not meant for horse races or gambling but the almighty god created them for a different purpose. If someone wants to make money, there are still so many ways to do it where no animals are being harmed. I don't know how you relate this to bitcoin mining but nowadays it's now possible to generate electricity without harming the environment; solar for example.

[sunsilk]

I don't think it should be banned, it should be virtualized.

I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.

I like that idea.

Having it virtually will have the idea of no more stressing the horses and I've seen those virtual ones and even I've played with it. This is much better than those using real horses.

But there are the bettors that would think that this can be rigged since it's virtual but that's part of it, a very common thought.

[AmoreJaz]

I don't think it should be banned, it should be virtualized.

I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.

I like that idea.

Having it virtually will have the idea of no more stressing the horses and I've seen those virtual ones and even I've played with it. This is much better than those using real horses.

But there are the bettors that would think that this can be rigged since it's virtual but that's part of it, a very common thought.

the actual experience in horse betting is still different from the real one. and when you are in a horse racing stadium, you would definitely know the reason why. sometimes, it serves as meeting place of family members, friends, colleagues or business partners and enjoy the race. i don't think someone can be the reason to change this culture.
but if you are not up to outdoor race, virtual racing is indeed a good one to explore with, esp by casinos/bookies as we are limiting our interaction with other people during this pandemic era.

[retreat]

Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.

That's right, horse racing is one of the gambling games that tax the country with quite a large amount. In many countries, horse racing is the bet of the rich, and even many of the most respected influential people bet on horse racing. the percentage of horses that die during horse racing is very small, so horse racing does not have to be banned.

[abel1337]

Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.

That's right, horse racing is one of the gambling games that tax the country with quite a large amount. In many countries, horse racing is the bet of the rich, and even many of the most respected influential people bet on horse racing. the percentage of horses that die during horse racing is very small, so horse racing does not have to be banned.

Tax is one of the reason why government couldn't stop these horse racing, The tax that government get is good enough not to stop this gambling game. Most of animals that use for games like will be treated depending on the owner. I think a horse owner that raised a horse for a long time will not do think that make the the horse life get killed in an instant. If you have a potential winner horse, I'm sure you wouldn't want it to be dead just after a single game. I know my scope is a bit small but I think most of the horse owner have respects to their horses. 

[goinmerry]

I would be interested to know how betting on animals helps people? As food, everything is clear to me, but as a subject of bets - no. Would you care to enlighten me on this matter?

Maybe the user means is by the general.

Since horse betting is a large industry, it helps people on the economic side. It produces jobs and money to support people. If it will be totally banned, it's a big loss in the employment rate.

We should not overreact to animal cruelty because legit horse racing is regulated by the government. If they will do an improper act, they will face the consequences of the law. Horse racing is not what others think as easy as simply running horses. There are guidelines and terms about the proper way of treating horses here before placing them on the race track.

[Wakate]

Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.

This type of game had been in existence for long and it's always fun but it mostly end up on injury if proper care is not taken. The accident from horse racing can be fatal since it do happen on motion and horses to die long the scene.
This game need to be regulated properly to prevent incidence that can affect the life of both horses that are used and also humans that are riding them. I have seen most case during horse race accident where the rider hot injured and the horse in question died instantly.