How to get Free games in china?

[kaya11]

A few years ago, when i could play real money on Pokerstars in china , its so difficult  to withdraw,
I need to sell my usd to other players,  a smart guy invent an application named”poker master ”
People could creat free club and invite friends play poker(gamble) together

How do you bet? Is it same as Casino in here? Is there a midman or an escrow that holds your funds if you play with your friends on that app or club your into? I think it is too risky, even online Casino these days are regulated by the government. Is that somehow illegal? I never have experienced something like that online, but in real life it is possible as you can see the players who are with you on the table playing poker. Your ideas have so many flaws and it needs professionals on that field to build such app, and nobody would take that job unless you pay them.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?

I honestly do not properly understand what you mean by this, but I will try to give an answer from the level to which I understand, I understand that what you mean Is different from casino forum, what you mean is a casino that for example, acts like Ethereum which allows other devs to build their own projects in the form of erc20.

The truth is, I don't think any crypto casino platform currently have such ability, and I also don't think any crypto casino would like to venture into such, as the journey might be futile.

[magneto]

I think there are probably regulatory concerns with it.

I do understand what you're trying to get at - a sort of pure gameplay app/website where no money exchanges hands, and all that is done is the actual gameplay itself.

Still though, I'd imagine there are huge barriers to entry for the Chinese app industry and it's probably extremely unprofitable compared to running an actual casino for the people who have the capacity to do it.

[tabas]

Understanding what he said, that's what he wants. Like if he's a casino owner and registered locally, there are countries that are restricted in accessing on his casino.
But what he wants to do is allowing them to gain access and he's the one to provide them VPN. Well, businessmen like that way because it's more money coming in to them but there's a law that prohibits it.

I think a law prohibiting them to play in their casino is enough of a challenge and I won't like to exceed beyond that because I think providing free pass to other countries from accessing to your casino is hassle IMO. Not unless, of course, if their government allowed other countries but that's not going to happen in their current status.

This is the problem when you are living in China because almost everything their was controlled by the government so having to have a free pass inside on their territory is not gonna happen.

There's a reason why those countries are specifically blocked from accessing. And with what he said, as an owner, he'll provide access to them and will even give a tool for it.
Well, it's his problem and strategy if ever he's get into reality with that idea and will have his own casino soon. He's explained enough with what he likes and it's up to everyone what's going to be the take for it.

[seagullx]

About the crypto game : crash. ( example )
1:We all know it’s house edge :1%
2:This game you access any gambling website , its always auto run there .

How to change it ? Or could we change it different?

1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience  i think its gone be ok!

2:How we make money for admins?
We could control the game time！
you as the admin， you could choose to open a new game anytime，and control the game time like 30mins or 1hour， why do that？ you could take the winner profits 1～5% as fee
its like， i join your club，play the crash，the game is 0 edge to me but in 30mins，i don’t know i will win the game or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

3: if as a player , you think its not fair about the hash , you could choose to different seeds game room

[perla]

So you are not allowed to play games or to deposit money or crypto but still wanted to play with a local game that is handled by local trusted admin? I think it is impossible for you since most of the reputable and trusted gambling site here is regulated and I am sure that your country is banned from playing and if you are going to play through unregulated gambling site, the chance of them to scam you is high.

[Similificator]

Thank you to @Similificator for making this clearer. I guess you just have to connect with interested developers, OP, so that you could know how to pursue this idea. If this will be possible, and successfully executed, then this would be a big thing that would be loved by many gamblers who wants to a have a private game and those from countries that are prohibiting gambling activities.

all of these. Just a little idea, i know talk is cheap ,show me the code,but I’m not software engineer
will somebody knows how to get it success，or interest of these，maybe we could to join a telegram group to talk this!
Btw: I’m learning English hard everyday , if you can’t understand me, just point my fault , that will be very helpful to me ! Thank u everybody!

The idea itself is pretty plausible and a lot may want this kind of service as well but if I were to be honest, for Chinese citizens such as you @seagullx, even when such a platform gets created, I highly doubt that you would be able to utilize their services because most probably, the platform would not allow certain countries to participate or use their services. And the way I see it, China will surely be one of those countries since there are strict laws that prevents gambling there. Because regardless of how it is being done, gambling is still gambling and I highly doubt that such platforms and their owners would risk compromising their reputation and hard work as they may get chased by regulators if they try to force offering such services to countries that do not allow such services. I guess the only way you can gamble online is via the traditional way; using VPNs.

[Emitdama]

We shouldn’t Trust any random crypto casino sites because i see a lot of scam in the online gambling sector. I believed only some established casino sites those are running for the last few years. I think it's foolish for everyone to create individual platform, how do you believe a random people who will create own casino platform.

I can see that the OP has some difficulty to play gambling due to country restrictions. That is the main reason why he was checking out non mainstream casinos but before he puts his full trust on that casino, would it be better if he do some investigations and if ever proven that, that site was somehow legit, he may then start with smaller amounts for some time, before finally depositing the amounts that he usually gambled with on other more trusted casinos.

It was the club that they are trying to create not a platform or maybe you mean the ones that creates his own casino? But either of that two, it's not foolish to create one as long as you are being honest of your intention.

[safari88]

all of these. Just a little idea, i know talk is cheap ,show me the code,but I’m not software engineer
will somebody knows how to get it success，or interest of these，maybe we could to join a telegram group to talk this!
Btw: I’m learning English hard everyday , if you can’t understand me, just point my fault , that will be very helpful to me ! Thank u everybody!

Although I mean somehow not a hundred percent sure that this would be really successfully made into reality, I would be interested to join a telegram group with you if ever you decided to have one. I would want to observe the plans, and if my capacity would allow perhaps I could give input, and witness if this will be achieved. It is good that you are trying to learn English, since it is a language that is highly used for international communication, then it is an advantage really. Practice more, then you’ll eventually get better in expressing your thought in the English.

[qwertyup23]

I am somehow confused on what you are asking but I will try to help you- since BTC has been banned in China, you are looking for an alternative to gamble/earn cryptocurrencies in your country via gambling? As far as I know, all online gambling casinos have free registration. In addition, there are others who offer freebies and bonuses upon registering- you just have to take your pick in which casino you are going to engage on.

Be careful, however, since there has been a cryptocurrency ban on your country, your IP address might be tracked down by the government. So gambling with the risks involved in your situation before fully committing.

[dothebeats]

China is very hard to penetrate when it comes to gambling. The market is quite high, but the government would surely put a keen eye on the said industry. That's why a lot of wealthy Chinese gamble on other parts of the world outside their country due to the very hard restrictions imposed by the communist government. If the creators and operators of the casino will somehow be guaranteed a license to operate, and secure the trust of the government, it is very possible. But very few people often gain the trust of the gov't in China. Also, crypto in China is very confusing hecauae you don't know the actual stance of the government on the said matter. Next thing you know your assets are beinf seized and your platform closed by the gov'f due to breaking the law you know wasn't even existing before.

[seagullx]

So you are not allowed to play games or to deposit money or crypto but still wanted to play with a local game that is handled by local trusted admin? I think it is impossible for you since most of the reputable and trusted gambling site here is regulated and I am sure that your country is banned from playing and if you are going to play through unregulated gambling site, the chance of them to scam you is high.

I want a real security casino ， no kyc，no cheat ，no fake publicity。
the only one thing we have to trust is the admin of club。

[popeye95]

So you are not allowed to play games or to deposit money or crypto but still wanted to play with a local game that is handled by local trusted admin? I think it is impossible for you since most of the reputable and trusted gambling site here is regulated and I am sure that your country is banned from playing and if you are going to play through unregulated gambling site, the chance of them to scam you is high.

I want a real security casino ， no kyc，no cheat ，no fake publicity。
the only one thing we have to trust is the admin of club。

I think I can understand what you mean and what you want. Because gambling is heavily regulated by China government and they did a fine job on it so you won't be able to play any gambling site in China. This leads to local illegal gambling house that depends on the reputation of the house to attract local players. some ok but some can cheat you if you are on the roll. And because it was illegal gambling in China so you as the victim won't dare to report them, hence leading more weight to the house, that they can do anything to you and so remove the 'fair play' term for both the house and player in gambling.

So if you want all of the security and trust but no cheating or fake then you have to go to a real casino that is based in a foreign country and allows gambling under their protected laws. I know, because of covid so you from China can't go abroad and just want a site that enforces the rule but let the player create a game, and invite others to join. I don't really get the part about why you want to be the admin of the group since you need to understand if you still stay in China while doing this, being the owner of the gambling group, organizing and earning the cut from it, anyone can report you to the govt and you will land in the prison very fast. You want to be a big fish but don't want to take responsibility for it. You want the house to take that responsibility for you but you still take a cut from it? Sorry, but that sounds very unlikely.

[Fortify]

Hello,everyone !
This is my first time to post on bitcointalk。
I come from china ,my English is not good ，most time，i need Google translate，thanks this invention。
I have read a lot of artcles here，i visited some online gaming websites, and test bcgame,stakes,free bitcoin etc, crash and mines are perfect games , i really love them!
Cryptocurrency let me enjoyed the funny on these gaming website.

A few years ago, when i could play real money on Pokerstars in china , its so difficult  to withdraw,
I need to sell my usd to other players,  a smart guy invent an application named”poker master ”
People could creat free club and invite friends play poker(gamble) together

Sadly China has garnered a very rough reputation in many countries and plenty of business owners will avoid interacting with players from the country because there are so many different types of abuse happening. There is still a lot of poverty in the country, unlike what the media would have you believe, outside of the big cities and people will to do all sorts of trivial things for tiny amounts of money. That makes any kind of freebie a no-go and the government definitely does not have a good legal infrastructure either, which makes it a wild-west where only Chinese nationals can benefit. You should probably ask around in Chinese forums where to make money in this arena because the great firewall of China and language barrier also makes it difficult to suggest things.

[ethereumhunter]

So you are not allowed to play games or to deposit money or crypto but still wanted to play with a local game that is handled by local trusted admin? I think it is impossible for you since most of the reputable and trusted gambling site here is regulated and I am sure that your country is banned from playing and if you are going to play through unregulated gambling site, the chance of them to scam you is high.

I want a real security casino ， no kyc，no cheat ，no fake publicity。
the only one thing we have to trust is the admin of club。

Do you already ask this in the Chinese subboard? When you ask on the international board, maybe not many people will know what you want. But you can ask your local people in the sub-board that can help you fit what you want.

You can visit Gambling board to find the casino. Sportsbet.io, Duelbits, Roobet, Betfury, Bitcasino.io, Playbetr.com, Freebitco.in, Winz.io, BlackJack.fun, FortuneJack, Owl.games, Rollbit and many more are the lists of a good casinos and so far, I play without doing KYC on those sites.

[Poker Player]

I want a real security casino ， no kyc，no cheat ，no fake publicity。
the only one thing we have to trust is the admin of club。

The problem with wanting that in poker is that it's like wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

No kyc playing poker opens a very large window of opportunity for collusion. Online poker houses like Pokerstars have people dedicated to prevent collusion, and that all players are perfectly identified. Without kyc the same person can have two or three players at the table without any problem. Or agree with two or three people.

[delfastTions]

I want a real security casino ， no kyc，no cheat ，no fake publicity。
the only one thing we have to trust is the admin of club。

The problem with wanting that in poker is that it's like wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

No kyc playing poker opens a very large window of opportunity for collusion. Online poker houses like Pokerstars have people dedicated to prevent collusion, and that all players are perfectly identified. Without kyc the same person can have two or three players at the table without any problem. Or agree with two or three people.

In such cases, KYC is not a guarantee against the participation of fraudsters in the game. Competent scammers will register other people through KYC, perhaps even having nothing to do with them, and not at all relatives, but just an outsider, paying him a little for the documents provided for KYC. And then really scammers can play as if for three players, although only a fraudster himself really plays. Unfortunately, this is the problem of online games.
And they are really solved only when you play in a physical casino, with real people who are sitting next to you at the gaming table.

[seagullx]

I want a real security casino ， no kyc，no cheat ，no fake publicity。
the only one thing we have to trust is the admin of club。

The problem with wanting that in poker is that it's like wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

No kyc playing poker opens a very large window of opportunity for collusion. Online poker houses like Pokerstars have people dedicated to prevent collusion, and that all players are perfectly identified. Without kyc the same person can have two or three players at the table without any problem. Or agree with two or three people.

In such cases, KYC is not a guarantee against the participation of fraudsters in the game. Competent scammers will register other people through KYC, perhaps even having nothing to do with them, and not at all relatives, but just an outsider, paying him a little for the documents provided for KYC. And then really scammers can play as if for three players, although only a fraudster himself really plays. Unfortunately, this is the problem of online games.
And they are really solved only when you play in a physical casino, with real people who are sitting next to you at the gaming table.

pvp game ，like poker ，always have players colluding each other， but casino games how to do that？
its not pvp ， the edge will always win！

[barbara44]

In such cases, KYC is not a guarantee against the participation of fraudsters in the game. Competent scammers will register other people through KYC, perhaps even having nothing to do with them, and not at all relatives, but just an outsider, paying him a little for the documents provided for KYC. And then really scammers can play as if for three players, although only a fraudster himself really plays. Unfortunately, this is the problem of online games.
And they are really solved only when you play in a physical casino, with real people who are sitting next to you at the gaming table.

pvp game ，like poker ，always have players colluding each other， but casino games how to do that？
its not pvp ， the edge will always win！

Poker can be under the casino games category and poker game is a pvp so there you have it. There is always a way for them to collude. Casino owners must be aware of this so maybe they are doing something in order to prevent this kind of act.

Non-pvp games on the other hand have house edge's on them but there are times that a casino player can bag a win so no, not all times house edge wins. About the KYC on poker games, a poker player can use their own casino kyc and they can still cooperate with the other player. There's no need for them to use other people's kyc but they just want to make sure that they are going to be careful for them to not get caught.

[uneng]

I want a real security casino ， no kyc，no cheat ，no fake publicity。
the only one thing we have to trust is the admin of club。

The problem with wanting that in poker is that it's like wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

No kyc playing poker opens a very large window of opportunity for collusion. Online poker houses like Pokerstars have people dedicated to prevent collusion, and that all players are perfectly identified. Without kyc the same person can have two or three players at the table without any problem. Or agree with two or three people.

In such cases, KYC is not a guarantee against the participation of fraudsters in the game. Competent scammers will register other people through KYC, perhaps even having nothing to do with them, and not at all relatives, but just an outsider, paying him a little for the documents provided for KYC. And then really scammers can play as if for three players, although only a fraudster himself really plays. Unfortunately, this is the problem of online games.
And they are really solved only when you play in a physical casino, with real people who are sitting next to you at the gaming table.

pvp game ，like poker ，always have players colluding each other， but casino games how to do that？
its not pvp ， the edge will always win！

In casino games where you play against the house there won't be collusion. But if that is the case, why don't you play at normal crypto casinos which don't ask for kyc? There is no need to make the situation more difficult with clubs and admins... There must be someway for people in your country to deal with cryptocurrency and exchange it against yuan because I've already seen chineses using crypto in different sites, including casinos, even though gambling and bitcoin aren't allowed there.