Few months ago, I was a very active campaigner ( my previous posts/activities will tell ) but then this shitty campaign by 1xbit caused my -1 neg trust from JollyGood after I tried applying to their campaign which I don't have an idea that it was a scam campaign coz I see a lot of people are applying on which I take responsibility of. I tried to appeal to him and he didn't replied which I totally understand. Now it's almost impossible to join any campaign anymore. What frustrates me more is that I really want to provide an art services so I could help few people here in regards with art, and again with neg trust it's almost impossible at this moment.
Now every time I see the thread of 1xbit reminds me of this, IDK why it is still here on the forum.
First of all, please accept my apology for not replying to your PMs. I checked and discovered you sent two messages last year but I did not reply to them. That would be very uncharacteristic of me as I usually reply to the overwhelming majority of PMs.
Moving on, nobody has stopped you from providing your art services in the forum. A simple red tag cannot stop a talented and determined member from putting their work out to showcase it nor cannot it detract potential buyers from striking deals with you.
Exactly how is one red tag going to disrupt you from providing art services?
Exactly how is one negative tag making it impossible to join signature campaigns?
Correct me if I am wrong but did the negative tags attached under the profile of 1xbit stop you from applying to join their campaign? How is it possible you see and ignore red tags when it suits your own agenda, point-of-view and perspective?
I mean, you had zero red tags when you applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and still were not selected by them yet there are those with red tags that are participating in 1xbit and other signature campaigns.
Rather than end your campaign journey an alternative would be to consider posting positively and in a helpful manner which would allow you build your reputation while you apply to join artwork competitions while trying to sell your artwork. Another option would be to create another account but I would advise against it yet the decision is yours to make.
Not knowing that 1xbit is a scam gambling site should not be an excuse...
Improve your post, I believe improving the way you are posting will change his mind ones he noticed that you have changed the way you are posting in a way you can join good campaigns that are only picking good posters unlike 1xbit that did not see good posters to pick because good posters did not apply, shit posters applied for 1xbit, posters that are not having merits or having just 1 or less than 5 merits in the last 120 days...
Post good and continue your determination which is the red trust removal, it would be removed if you start and continue to be active with quality posts which is what that will make you deserve it removed...
What you wrote is correct.
All he had to do was to post as a good contributor with or without trying to sell his art and the tag would have been revised to neutral or removed but instead he followed a different path.
And this is an issue for you now because....?
You had to have known your negative feedback would preclude you from getting accepted into most of the reputable signature campaigns, no? It's not as if JG just left you that feedback, either--it's been nearly a year.
What frustrates me more is that I really want to provide an art services so I could help few people here in regards with art, and again with neg trust it's almost impossible at this moment.
What is it about that one feedback that's preventing you from doing whatever it is you described above? I don't know what "art service" you want to provide, but a single neg due to you being linked with 1xbit probably shouldn't interfere.
I'd no idea 1xbit was still active here, since I have signatures ignored. But the forum doesn't ban scammers, so that's why they're allowed to remain on bitcointalk.
It is probably an issue for him
now because he would like to participate in signature campaigns and he might find himself at somewhat of a disadvantage when making applications.
There is no reason at all why he could not have positively contributed to the forum with or without trying to sell/promote his artwork. He could have done so using the tagged account or by creating another but either way if he believed in his talent why would one negative tag have stopped him from trying to participate as a good standing member of this forum?
What frustrates me more is that I really want to provide an art services so I could help few people here in regards with art, and again with neg trust it's almost impossible at this moment.
Your account didn't have any active flag and the feedback because of 1xbit, if you use escrow of your services, I don't see the feedback would hurt your reputations. As long as your art portfolio is originally created from you and using escrow, no one will think you're a scammer. Why not try to create your services thread?
He is on occasion directly and indirectly appealing to the community to pressure me in to removing the feedback because he claims he unable to showcase his artwork talents appropriately to the forum as a result of the negative tag.
There is no reason he cannot contribute to the forum by posting in a helpful manner as well as create a thread to showcase his artwork talents and to try to sell them to potential buyers.
And this is an issue for you now because....?
I think his purpose want to join the signature campaign again since he said he was an active campaigner. If you read his post history [1] he never made any post about contributing to the forum, he only create post about art contest which is money oriented. This mean if he only want to post because of money, he wouldn't post if he didn't earn money. Since he didn't contributed anything after he got negative trust by @JollyGood , the negative feedback shouldn't be deleted.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1075222;sa=showPosts;start=0You make a valid point here which raises questions about the real purpose and intentions behind him creating this thread.
There seems to be lacking a genuine iota of remorse from what he said and his stance on not wanting to remove the current signature and avatar he is displaying (even after several members have pointed it out to him about their reputation in this thread) speaks volumes about his mindset and opens questions about his real motives.
Few months ago, I was a very active campaigner ( my previous posts/activities will tell ) but then this shitty campaign by 1xbit caused my -1 neg trust from JollyGood after I tried applying to their campaign which I don't have an idea that it was a scam campaign coz I see a lot of people are applying on which I take responsibility of.
You mean you applied but never got to join the campaign?
It seems that JollyGood tagged not only the people who participated, but also those who simply applied.
I find this a bit tough. Someone could have applied without realising it was a scam and then withdraw or delete the application without ever actually participating. I don't think they should get a red tag for this.
There would be a grey case for me, which would be those who applied and were not accepted. In this case I think the tag would be more justified.
Yes I tagged virtually all accounts I was aware of that applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign.
He applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and from what I can recall a couple of weeks later after not being selected by them he deleted his application.
Thats hurting actually. Well just continue or provide service to others. Probably with huge transactions youve done with that services, others might ignore that negative feedback on you for just joining a scam signature campaign. If you succeded on that, then maybe some will drop you a good positive rating and that negative one will be ignored as many are trusted you for your services instead seeing you as a scammer for that mistake of yours.
The advice you gave him is probably the best that can be given. If he really believes he has a talent which will/can benefit the forum members he should have never have let one negative tag stop him.
All he had to do was to showcase his artwork talents to the community and posted in the threads that make him happy and allow him to make deals by selling his artwork. Sooner or later I would have removed or revised the tag but he has opted to follow a different route altogether which is simply not productive nor conducive to him or his cause.
Few months ago, I was a very active campaigner ( my previous posts/activities will tell ) but then this shitty campaign by 1xbit caused my -1 neg trust from JollyGood after I tried applying to their campaign which I don't have an idea that it was a scam campaign coz I see a lot of people are applying on which I take responsibility of.
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Let's be honest here, if people were not getting tagged for promoting scammers like 1xbit I am sure that many wouldn't have any issues joining their campaign but are not doing so only because of the fear of negative tag.
Well, he claims he missed the 18 or so red tags that the 1xbit forum representative had the time but somehow all he saw was the opportunity to earn some signature campaign money.
I have no idea how many people have been put off by applying to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign as a result of receiving negative trust but even if a just a few have decided to not apply it means something positive have come from this because as members of this fantastic forum we have responsibilities to each other and the wider public to try to at the very least protect them from frauds and scams.
It is strange that he would login after not logging in that often, apply to join a known and then well.. not be so active again.
Now every time I see the thread of 1xbit reminds me of this, IDK why it is still here on the forum.
While you're right with "IDK why it is still here on the forum", you're wrong with blaming them for what has happened to you. Look closer and you'll see that it was your own fault to not read all the red warnings around that campaign.
Yes, I know, you can tell that I expect too much from a Sr. Member. But you're here since 2017, or at least the account is. You had to learn the proper ways at some point...
After missing all the warning signs he decided to apply to join and after withdrawing his application he still never contributed much towards showcasing those talents he mentions in the OP.
He can still get to work by concentrating on showcasing his talents and by trying to be a good contributor here but he never did so during the past 10 months or so since his account was tagged.
I think the ulterior motive here is he wants to join a signature campaign and is finding it hard because of the red tag. If he had used the previous 10 or so months since his account was tagged to post about his artwork and make efforts to be hired by potential customers then he tag probably would have been revised or removed by now.
The blame-game about him not being able to progress in the forum and all those people that he can teach and be helpful to regarding art/artwork but him being unable to because of one red tag, is an absolutely ridiculous thing to read and even after to believe.
Judging by his registration, he could only apply for participation but did not participate in this company.
The post with the registration has been deleted, and also I did not find it in the spreadsheet. Therefore, we can conclude that he did not participate and receive payments.
Subsequently, there were also applications for other subscription companies, in which the OP, apparently, was not accepted.
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qme0j0hxrxyghzgxfrdd7sat5eehuyatugak2thhttps://ninjastic.space/post/57235692
My negative trust is from applying to scam campaign ( 1xbit ) which I didn't know. Applying to redeem my reputation.
My negative trust is from applying to scam campaign ( 1xbit ) which I didn't know. Applying to redeem my reputation.
OP, Sometimes choosing the company you're going to advertise with carefully will help you maintain your reputation....
Thank you. I could not have put it better myself.
Are we all seriously supposed to accept he did not know what he was doing when he decided to apply to promote one of the most tagged and talked about scams in the forum probably since Yobit?
Going by your post, it seems his artwork seems to be the second most important thing on his agenda with the first and foremost being attempts at joining a signature campaign.
You should have seen all the warnings about 1xbit before you decided to apply for their signature campaign.
How did you miss seeing
1. Red trust and flags on all 1xbit's profiles amd campaign manager's profile.
2. Warnings in the campaign thread by so many members that anyone would risk getting tagged if they applied for the campaign.
3. Multiple scam accusations and reputation posts complaining about 1xbit at that time.
He claims he never knew 1xbit were scammers.
He claims he returned to the forum out of the blue after a period of being inactive, then applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and after that he went off to be inactive again for a while.
The fact that you are so careless is evident even today.
Blender wallet, a service that you are advertising on your signature has
been off for several weeks now.
Before even going off, they claim the "noncustodial" wallet
was hacked and funds for users were withdrawn.
How do you not know this and continue advertising such a service on your signature after all that long?
What could be the reason he would continue to wear the avatar and signature? The moment he became aware of the allegations against it he should have distanced himself from it.
I'm not sure if he wore a 1xbit signature during that time, but I think JG gave him plenty of time to change his mind before tagging his account. He applied for the 1xbit campaign on June 15 and received negative trust on July 1. Then, after realizing he wasn't going to be accepted into their campaign, he deleted his application and started complaining.
The manner is which joining a signature campaign seems to be the priority for him, it seems desperate. All the while he claims that he has so much talent to offer forum members where he could help others with their artwork but is being held back by one red tag.
I do not accept his case that one red tag is holding him back from being a high level talented contributor to this forum.
Given how inactive he has been for the past year, I doubt this is his only account on the forum.
I agree, in all probability you are correct this is not his only account.
It seems that the OP is not a careful person at all. Out of curiosity, I checked if there is a signature campaign in the thread:
Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 30-April-22]And there is no signature campaign of that service (obviously). Surely he joined in the past and he has not removed the signature.
Reminds me of everyone who continued to carry Lightlord's 777coin and Bitvest.io signatures long after they stopped running in the forum. I still saw one the other day.
I am unsure as to what the exact agenda the OP has with this thread but it seems to weigh towards his wanting to appeal to members in trying to have the negative tag removed so he could apply to join signature campaigns without fear of being rejected.
His claims of being talented and his claims of wanting to help others with art and also him wanting to showcase his work while trying to sell them seem to be lower on his agenda.
I think that some do keep the old signature for proving some sort of "status", i.e. that they were accepted to campaigns.
Or some may keep signature in order to "fool" people that they are any good, by showing that they're somewhat trusted by the campaign manager (I don't know how to explain it well), without realizing that one can do quality posts even if he's not member of any campaign.
Maybe I didn't explain well, but the point is that it can also be seen not as carelessness, instead as somehow trying to pretend he's more than he is.
If he applied due-diligence beforehand then his present signature and avatar would not even be mentioned. That is another matter that falls firmly at his door because he should be more careful and more vigilant.
I get the idea but I think they are wrong. If you are not in a signature campaign I think it is better to post without carrying any signature, because this way you show that it is not only economic interest that brings you to this forum.
Which brings be back to the main point I was making. The premise behind the OP creating this thread seems to be purely economical based around him wanting to join a signature campaign. In the previous 10 months or so since his account got tagged did he showcase his artwork talents? Did he try to sell his artwork and designs to potential customers? Where have all his efforts been during this period?
First of all he was not exactly active that often here anyway and when he was several of his posts show the economical reason for him wanting to be here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1075222;sa=showPostsI agree with what has been said:
The -1 is not that big a deal if you want to provide a service just use a reliable escrow and if you do enough good deals over time it really will not matter.
As for joining signature campaigns, that really is up to the individual manager.
But still wearing the sig for a service that has gone away and itself is tagged is not a good thing.
-Dave
If he manages to become a trustworthy member of the community the tag issue would have been resolved.
Even if he did not make any sales of his artwork he could have been a productive member of the community and that also would have made an impact. He did not use the interim period of getting tagged until now to post regularly and positively on a regular basis.
I'm not sure if he wore a 1xbit signature during that time, but I think JG gave him plenty of time to change his mind before tagging his account. He applied for the 1xbit campaign on June 15 and received negative trust on July 1. Then, after realizing he wasn't going to be accepted into their campaign, he deleted his application and started complaining.
The way he wrote it was like he immediately got negative feedback after he applied for 1xbit signature campaign, but this is a completely different thing. He was given more than 2 weeks time to remove that sig and if that wasn't enough, then even 2 months probably wouldn't be enough for him.
The OP claims he did not know he applied to promote a scam even during the long period of between posting to apply and subsequently removing his application.
If I am not wrong this action taken by JollyGood after multiple warnings to the campaign participants but they never cared so he made a list of people who are wearing the 1xbit signatures and getting financial benefits from the scammers. If you didn't get that financial benefits but still you got negged may look harsh but its your responsibility to choose what you're promoting because literally you're helping the scammers and being one if the reason for people to lose their money.
Interestingly, I didn't find your name in the list which actually have 124 names.
I think there are a couple of others that claimed they did not know they were wanting to promote a scam when they applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and they might have not have been added but most of them were added to the list:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347222.0And you are right, just because he was not selected to join their signature campaign he intended to do it therefore why should it be looked at as anything less than joining? I do not accept his case when he claims he made a mistake because he was unaware 1xbit were scammers.
Few months ago, I was a very active campaigner ( my previous posts/activities will tell ) but then this shitty campaign by 1xbit caused my -1 neg trust from JollyGood after I tried applying to their campaign which I don't have an idea that it was a scam campaign coz I see a lot of people are applying on which I take responsibility of. I tried to appeal to him and he didn't replied which I totally understand. Now it's almost impossible to join any campaign anymore.
I don't know how long you were a part of 1xbit campaign but it was big risk joining and everyone was well aware they could receive negative feedback.
There is still a chance he could remove that feedback, but instead you should concentrate to improve your posts and get some positive feedback for your services and trades.
If you want to provide some design and other art related services you can always create brand new account, and you don't have to publicly say that is your alt account.
I agree with you.
There is no reason he cannot promote himself and his artwork in this forum with our without receiving positive feedback. If he just posted and contributed in a positive manner it would highlight his account in a different manner and the issues with tags would resolve themselves and failing that you are right he could have simply registered another account to showcase his talents, apply for artwork competitions while trying to sell his works and making a name and building a positive respectful reputation for himself. He chose to not do that.
At this point, I’m sure if the keywords 1xbit is searched on bitcointalk forum, the company has been mentioned more than a million times good and bad, mostly bad reviews associated with the company and its signature campaign. But talking about it everyday is free advertising imo. They probably have more people clicking their websites through bitcointalk because they are everywhere. OP wants his feedback removed, I suggest he contact the person who gave the feedback and give convincing reasons why it should be removed.
I understand your point and thank you for making it.
Just by posting about the 1xbit scammers bring them and their brand to the eyes of anyone reading the post and no doubt a minority or gullible people will end up finding their way to the website and will be at risk of becoming victims.
And yes you are right, all the OP had to do was to search online or within this forum to see whether the 1xbit scammers should be promoted or not but he did not apply even the slightest due-diligence even when there are a large number of red tags in the profile under the avatar of the 1xbit forum representatives.
It speaks volumes when a forum member decides to ignore red tags when applying to join a known scam because the $ signs are more prominent but the moment their brief association with the scammer has ended they find their own red tags to be visible as the $ signs fade away from them.
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Thank you for reading this very long post.
I think I have replied directly to 19 of the 20 posts made in page one of this thread.
I will try to reply to the posts in page two later this evening or tomorrow.
