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May 06, 2022, 09:04:04 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with. But it seem not coming. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
Let's discuss them
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Rikafip
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May 06, 2022, 09:11:24 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits No its not. Well, at least not to those that either have something to say or have something to ask. the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with ..which makes many of them pushing too hard in order to get merit so they pretend to know more than they actually do by plagiarizing or making merit fishing topics. But it seem not coming. It is coming to genuine newbies that come here to learn some things about bitcoin. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
No, and there are no rules when it comes to what is "meritorious content", everyone is free to decide that for themselves.
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Wiwo
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May 06, 2022, 09:15:36 PM |
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The earlier you start working on your improvement the better for you, most newbies get carried away with the merit thing and do all manner of pointless and low-quality content all will the intention of generating merit from such content. From my personal experience, the forum and its members have high regard for quality and not quantity as long as you make yourself a valuable member of the forum you don't need to worry your head that much your work will speak for you and if any user finds them helpful there can award you merit. No merit source will withhold merit for any reason and will want to use up their merits but then their can just be awarding merits to junk posts or threads.
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isaac_clarke22
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May 06, 2022, 09:52:29 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with. But it seem not coming. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
Let's discuss them
Newbies are thinking too much about merits. It is just another another like/upvote points in the end. Sure it is needed to rank up, but why so desperate to rank up if you can still use the forum as it is? I am not a merit source, but when I give merits I never looked into ranks. I usually award merits to those posts that had me "moved". Speaking of generosity, we have this thread if you have not read it yet. [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits
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qwertyup23
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May 06, 2022, 10:38:24 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with. But it seem not coming. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
Let's discuss them
I doubt that newbies are experiencing struggles to earn merits- I think this problem only extends to users who are desperate in earning merits. Like what most have previously mentioned, earning merits is a job itself; one must at least commit that you are determined into sharing posts that will benefit the public in general. In addition, you can also earn merits if you attempt to report plagiarized posts or scams in the announcement thread. Bottomline is, hard work and patience are needed if one truly wants to earn merits. Again, focus on creating constructive posts and avoid posting on mega threads as exposure is relatively low compared to other threads.
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Bitcoin_Arena
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May 06, 2022, 11:34:32 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with.
I just checked out your post history, and it seems you are talking out yourself. Out of 10 posts you have made so far, you have started 5 posts, which means your sole focus is on getting merit. My advice is, don't force things, and you won't be frustrated. Focus on making good content, and especially try helping members via constructive discussion. Merits will come along your way with time
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Despairo
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May 07, 2022, 02:07:25 AM |
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There are no such standard of getting merited except quality of your post itself. I've remembered when I still a newbie, better to talk less and read more, you shouldn't write something low value post or spamming in this forum. Reading many topics in this forum will help you to understand more about the subject e.g. Bitcoin, forum, economy etc. If you think getting merit is really hard, then look how @fillippone can get 1000 merits around 8-9 months only. While become a legendary member you need minimum requirement of an activity around 2-3 years.
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pooya87
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May 07, 2022, 03:11:25 AM |
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From what I've seen those users who focus on earning merit so much that it makes merit their whole reason why they are on this forum, will never earn merits. It's simply because their posts are always clearly made to receive merit and people don't like that. Otherwise there is no "standard" and I have to say that it is very odd that you are asking about merits and hardship of earning them after only 10 days and 10 posts from your account creation!
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May 07, 2022, 03:54:23 AM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits.
Newcomers have many problems getting merit.Their first task is to know the rules of the forum.Then read more of the seniors' posts.Because when they are new to the forum they have no idea about cryptocurrency.But newcomers don't do any of these. Because of this they do not have much knowledge of cryptocurrency and they cannot post well so they do not get merit.If they do not follow the merit and post quality then they will get merit very soon.If they do not follow the merit and post quality then they will get merit very soon.
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Don Pedro Dinero
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May 07, 2022, 05:45:33 AM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with. But it seem not coming. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
Let's discuss them
I have looked at your posts because I have a merit that I could have given you if I could find a post that deserved it, but I have to tell you that creating a thread with a long post, even if you had a hard time writing it, is not enough to get merit. What you say has to make sense and be appealing to those who read it. Simply saying what you think doesn't guarantee you anything, no matter how long it takes you to write it.
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Charles-Tim
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May 07, 2022, 05:47:13 AM |
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Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
Not only this forum, but everywhere, there are rules that applies that can make your post be merit worthy, although, not stated rules but can be called standard of quality posts. So that is quality and authenticity of your posts, how helpful it is and how convincing it can be for people that did not even notice you before and starting to notice you. There are different boards on this forum, with all having different active posters, if you study that well, you will notice that the active posts that have quality posts are getting merited, they receive merit as often. You also can be like that, go for boards of interest, read what quality posts are posting than you posting and learn in the process.
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aysg76
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May 07, 2022, 09:17:10 AM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with.
There are two things like you could be a newbie on the forum but have good knowledge about bitcoin network and crypto market as a whole then getting merits won't be tough for you as you simply can post useful things helping others or create similar threads on different topics. The second case is you are totally newbie and have no idea about the bitcoin or market and you register on the forum then hoping for immediate merits shower on your account is not justified.But you may see that if you start asking doubts leading to healthy discussion you could merits but only asking for merits,how to rank up and forum doesn't come under effective post frankly speaking. If you are putting efforts it will be visible and you will be rewarded with merits from someone whosoever find it useful but anticipation of it always is not everyone's approach and some newbies earn it easily but you only have to work for it. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
There are merit sources appointed by @theymos on the forum who can give out more smerits than they earn to help members grow on the forum but they all have their own way of distributing it like you could find : 1) @BlackHatCoiner's merit policy here 2)@Pharmacist has habit of helping low rank quality posters to reach their next rank 3) DdmrDdmr the merit machine on the forum is always the first one to be ahead in giving out merits to good post They all have their own ways of giving out merits and they don't reserve their merits if you check out them.But still if you find your post are good and not getting merits you can report them here : [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit SourceFrom what I've seen those users who focus on earning merit so much that it makes merit their whole reason why they are on this forum, will never earn merits. It's simply because their posts are always clearly made to receive merit and people don't like that. Otherwise there is no "standard" and I have to say that it is very odd that you are asking about merits and hardship of earning them after only 10 days and 10 posts from your account creation!
We have seen lot of similar threads in B&H section and they all are eager to rank up because they are being introduced to the forum as income source on primary basis not the knowledge library they can take advantage of.So you are right in race to only focus on merits they have nothing with them.So best is to enhance your knowledge which will fulfill the later parts.
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Lucius
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May 07, 2022, 01:41:15 PM |
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After 10 posts, they are already wondering why they didn't get any merits, as if there is a rule or formula that would determine the number of posts in relation to the number of merits that someone should have ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Every beginner should know that there is no general standard when it comes to merits, everyone decides at their own discretion - so we have posts that received a maximum of 50 merits from one member, and realistically if you look at their quality do not deserve even 1 merit. It is not an abuse as some think, but the free will of each member to do with his merits whatever he wants.
@Mate2237, if you think you've been waiting a long time for your first merit, here's something to comfort you Another "Legednary" newbie
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May 07, 2022, 01:50:09 PM |
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Mate2237, you need to understand that the merits of this forum don't come automatically, but depend on other members of the forum. Each of us is different and has different thoughts and criteria about which post deserve merit. No one can demand merit but I suggest you to be humble, make an effort, share your knowledge and experience and based on that other members of the forum may reward your investment with merit. Topics and posts like this will not help you.
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JoyMarsha
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May 07, 2022, 02:36:07 PM |
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Each of the posts or comments made in this forum it's for gaining ideas from one another. Newbies should have in mind that, not every post or comment deserves merit. Merits are only given out for free will based on your response or idea about the topic. Comment or ask questions in the post you have an interest in then the merit will locate you simultaneously.
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May 07, 2022, 02:53:11 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with. But it seem not coming. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
Let's discuss them
gaining merit's is not a problems for newbies If they are contributing well in this community but all they do is asking on how to get it or what ever involves in merit's for sure it's hard for them . Now adays some newbies not came here for knowledge but the main purpose why they are here it because they want to get some extra income . To get merits you should create a quality and helpful threads to convince other user to give you merit's but before that newbies muy read first the rules and regulations to avoid. Such things.
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May 07, 2022, 03:11:33 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits It is never a problem and why is because we have many newbies on the forum doing well and are seeing the result, if you doubt have a look at this The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days its updated till date and after you could have gone through, do well to check some user's profile and see what they are posting and how they are doing it that makes them have a deserving result, so don't say or assume it's a problem for newbies to have merit, everyone is lied with equal opportunity and those that maximize the effective use of it get a deserving benefit from it as well. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents. Furthermore to clear your doubts i think you need to go about the reading of the forum's rules and regulations, and some important key topics in this area of merit like i will love to drop you some here: Merit FAQ for us read as well this also for more directions onnhow to go about [GUIDE for NEWBIE] Merit-help from other users, how to use them correctly? and i think by now you should have got it right and realize what you've been missing out.
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May 07, 2022, 03:21:20 PM |
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It is a problem for the newbies getting merits, the eagerness is endless as they anticipate merit in any content they have put up effort with.
You are right, it's indeed a problem and very hard to obtain a Merit. I have seen people sending a fraudulent Merit for low effort posts, like in local sections: German section here or here. It contributes no value, still a Merit. Merit should be reserved for well researched posts but still many well researched posts go unmerited and very many low quality posts go merited. We need a Merit police to punish giving a Merit to low effort posts. But it seem not coming. Is it that those who have excess of merits reserves their generosity or there are laid down principles in writing a Meritorious contents.
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You need to focus your post on what is useful as a content, what people might be interested in. About education, about Bitcoin, about exposing scams and about improving Bitcointalk. Yes, Merit is very scarce and hard to obtain but it's not impossible to obtain a Merit.
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May 07, 2022, 04:01:57 PM |
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I’ve often echoed that earning a few merits, and scaling through the first few ranks, should not deem too difficult, but rather more so moving along the mid-to-high ranks, which require many more merits, and where people are likely to be more demanding for meriting posted content than on the lower ranks. People here and there have posted their meriting criteria, such as on this recent thread. Reading through may provide further insights, although bear in mind that people have likely conceptual criteria, but things are nor written in stone. The idea, in general terms, is to create content that is potentially interesting to the reader, be it in the shape of information, questions, answers, criticism, and whatnot, and wavering the flag of being meaningful, as opposed to meaningless or excessively redundant. The way you express yourself and the general layout are complements that help to convey the message more easily, and come in handy to bear in mind. Being too eager may easily prove to be counterproductive, as it may lead one to be under the spotlight with a content that may not be that well thought through. Nobody should be expecting to get merited from the start, nor recurrently on most of the post he makes. I took my time to earn my first merit, well over a month, and if memory serves me well, it was actually for a little joke on my local board relative to price volatility. Not something to mimic, but goes to show that there is a variety of content that may be considered by others as interesting.
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May 07, 2022, 04:56:45 PM |
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From what I've seen those users who focus on earning merit so much that it makes merit their whole reason why they are on this forum, will never earn merits. It's simply because their posts are always clearly made to receive merit and people don't like that. Otherwise there is no "standard" and I have to say that it is very odd that you are asking about merits and hardship of earning them after only 10 days and 10 posts from your account creation!
In my short time around here, I noticed this as well. When I read a really good post or answer, and check the user's merit counter, they almost always have a high merit count (which shows the merit system is working). There isn't really much more to this; at least, that's how I distribute my sMerits: if I read an interesting idea or question, a good explanation or a helpful thread / guide / link collection, I give some. More or less based on just the (perceived) importance, helpfulness, quality and time / effort put into it. If after I read a post, I gained nothing from it and it just wasted my time; providing zero new value to the forum or anyone really, I would almost like to give a negative merit. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Since the advent of social media and 'broadcast yourself', some people got into the habit of posting their thoughts online without filtering, without structure or without second-guessing themselves if this post will actually be of any interest to someone or if they're just wasting people's time.
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