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June 23, 2022, 06:48:56 AM
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It is possible to create telegram group with the useful information, but there is a huge quantity of the same groups and the most part of them are scammers. They are about pump/dump groups, where always there is one winner - the group admin. It is possible to get some useful information there, but it is dangerous to follow their advises.
I don't think any telegram group is needed to gamble or get any kind of direction.  Where there is a forum like Bitcointalk. There is a lot of gambling in this forum.  And there are a lot of topics open here that are going to take direction on gambling.  And if you want, you can create a topic here.  That's what you want to know.  So why  need to create a shit telegram group?
The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information

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June 23, 2022, 07:36:46 AM
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It is possible to create telegram group with the useful information, but there is a huge quantity of the same groups and the most part of them are scammers. They are about pump/dump groups, where always there is one winner - the group admin. It is possible to get some useful information there, but it is dangerous to follow their advises.
I don't think any telegram group is needed to gamble or get any kind of direction.  Where there is a forum like Bitcointalk. There is a lot of gambling in this forum.  And there are a lot of topics open here that are going to take direction on gambling.  And if you want, you can create a topic here.  That's what you want to know.  So why  need to create a shit telegram group?
The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information
I also notice that the speed of information exchange is increasing, which leads to a reduction in the texts of "question-answer" messages. However, it is not always possible to answer briefly, sometimes it is necessary in detail. Old-school guys are certainly used to this, but for new users it seems boring and superfluous. And they are already just annoyed by long answers. It's just that they are not accustomed to reading for a long time and delving into the essence of the matter, thinking with their brains. This is, of course, in a sense, the degradation of man, but alas, the next generations will live with this.
In Telegram, I am always annoyed by empty chatter and mutual claims and disputes about who their disputants are more of a fool and who are less.
But you still have to waste time scrolling through this "verbal diarrhea".  Grin

So, I think it makes little sense to make another group in telegrams also because they all live and actively develop not for too long. Then all these groups die safely, and the time spent on them cannot be returned.

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June 23, 2022, 07:41:15 AM
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Why do you need a telegram if there are convenient and specially adapted forums for this? It is convenient to communicate in a telegram, because it is a messenger! I don't think this is the best place to bet.
Telegram is also a good place to join group that you can get daily prediction of games and it do make it easier for gamblers to get fast forcast so anyone can modify to suit their gaming strategy or patterns. Also WhatsApp is a good place just like telegram but telegram is more advance with gamblers from different region of the world.

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June 23, 2022, 11:02:46 AM
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I don't think any telegram group is needed to gamble or get any kind of direction.  Where there is a forum like Bitcointalk. There is a lot of gambling in this forum.  And there are a lot of topics open here that are going to take direction on gambling.  And if you want, you can create a topic here.  That's what you want to know.  So why  need to create a shit telegram group?
The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information

I quit Telegram years ago,,, 2017/18 was the last time I had it. I still open it now and then to look for contacts or files but whenever I open it it totally reminds me of ICO scams and ponzis,,, which is why nft and defi still love it. Gambling groups are 100% better here on forums if you know which threads to focus on.

I have seen new accounts over the years even in Gambling come in and participate and grow so it is not like there are no newcomers. It is very old school though,,, cannot even embed social media  Grin

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June 29, 2022, 01:45:59 PM
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The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information
I also notice that the speed of information exchange is increasing, which leads to a reduction in the texts of "question-answer" messages. However, it is not always possible to answer briefly, sometimes it is necessary in detail. Old-school guys are certainly used to this, but for new users it seems boring and superfluous. And they are already just annoyed by long answers. It's just that they are not accustomed to reading for a long time and delving into the essence of the matter, thinking with their brains. This is, of course, in a sense, the degradation of man, but alas, the next generations will live with this.
In Telegram, I am always annoyed by empty chatter and mutual claims and disputes about who their disputants are more of a fool and who are less.
But you still have to waste time scrolling through this "verbal diarrhea".  Grin

So, I think it makes little sense to make another group in telegrams also because they all live and actively develop not for too long. Then all these groups die safely, and the time spent on them cannot be returned.
There are even research for this situation. That`s why we can see various instructions - if the target audience were born in 80th or older - it will be text instructions. If they their age 25-30 - it will be pictures. If hey are younger - it would be video. And you are right - we see this degradation around us but we can`t do anything with it - to look video is easier than to read book. And of course we waste time reading useless text in any messenger with the groups.

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June 30, 2022, 12:00:23 PM
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The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information
I also notice that the speed of information exchange is increasing, which leads to a reduction in the texts of "question-answer" messages. However, it is not always possible to answer briefly, sometimes it is necessary in detail. Old-school guys are certainly used to this, but for new users it seems boring and superfluous. And they are already just annoyed by long answers. It's just that they are not accustomed to reading for a long time and delving into the essence of the matter, thinking with their brains. This is, of course, in a sense, the degradation of man, but alas, the next generations will live with this.
In Telegram, I am always annoyed by empty chatter and mutual claims and disputes about who their disputants are more of a fool and who are less.
But you still have to waste time scrolling through this "verbal diarrhea".  Grin

So, I think it makes little sense to make another group in telegrams also because they all live and actively develop not for too long. Then all these groups die safely, and the time spent on them cannot be returned.
There are even research for this situation. That`s why we can see various instructions - if the target audience were born in 80th or older - it will be text instructions. If they their age 25-30 - it will be pictures. If hey are younger - it would be video. And you are right - we see this degradation around us but we can`t do anything with it - to look video is easier than to read book. And of course we waste time reading useless text in any messenger with the groups.
Actually, it's just terrible that the development of technology.  The Internet and a variety of gadgets have led to the opposite result in the development of a person as a person. 
Clip thinking, which is spreading more and more, makes people some kind of complete fools.  No new ideas, discoveries, initiatives useful to society.  Such people-robots, tightly attached to gadgets and Wikipedia (which, by the way, does not always contain reliable information Smiley), are just a "herd of sheep" that politicians can lead wherever they please. 
And almost always "in the wrong direction" but to where these politicians themselves earn more. 

In general, "the end of history," as Fukoyama writes. Grin Sad

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June 30, 2022, 12:23:46 PM
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I don't think any telegram group is needed to gamble or get any kind of direction.  Where there is a forum like Bitcointalk. There is a lot of gambling in this forum.  And there are a lot of topics open here that are going to take direction on gambling.  And if you want, you can create a topic here.  That's what you want to know.  So why  need to create a shit telegram group?
The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information

I quit Telegram years ago,,, 2017/18 was the last time I had it. I still open it now and then to look for contacts or files but whenever I open it it totally reminds me of ICO scams and ponzis,,, which is why nft and defi still love it. Gambling groups are 100% better here on forums if you know which threads to focus on.

I have seen new accounts over the years even in Gambling come in and participate and grow so it is not like there are no newcomers. It is very old school though,,, cannot even embed social media  Grin

Like you, telegram was the best place during those days of ico scams, a lot of investors hook to certain group

believing that it can change their life after following them. Those are the days, moving forward with sports betting,
telegram is also good in terms of sharing, but also, the forum has lots of options to learn, not just to follow things
but to use those shared picks are search deeper and find the advantages.
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The initiative of the process is very good one.But the thing is most of the people will not show interest on it.Secondly the scammmers will get into this green group and make some unwanted hustle their.Then the group initiation was spoiled,the people may follow the scammers.It may leads to the scammers group,the positive feedback of the group also spoiled.

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June 30, 2022, 03:53:30 PM
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The initiative of the process is very good one.But the thing is most of the people will not show interest on it.Secondly the scammmers will get into this green group and make some unwanted hustle their.Then the group initiation was spoiled,the people may follow the scammers.It may leads to the scammers group,the positive feedback of the group also spoiled.

If someone creates a group and discusses it among gamblers, there is no objection. But the problem is that it will be difficult for the admin to control the scammers. If you are active in Telegram, you can see how many unnecessary messages come every day, most of which are scammers.
And scammers pay more attention to the groups in which crypto users are active. So considering these issues there is less interest here to join this group.

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Actually, it's just terrible that the development of technology.  The Internet and a variety of gadgets have led to the opposite result in the development of a person as a person. 
Clip thinking, which is spreading more and more, makes people some kind of complete fools.  No new ideas, discoveries, initiatives useful to society.  Such people-robots, tightly attached to gadgets and Wikipedia (which, by the way, does not always contain reliable information Smiley), are just a "herd of sheep" that politicians can lead wherever they please. 
And almost always "in the wrong direction" but to where these politicians themselves earn more. 

In general, "the end of history," as Fukoyama writes. Grin Sad
Once i heard a genius idea, that the quantity of the brain is constant for the Earth, but the quantity of "brain users" is growing up. Smiley This is life as is. For all the time, there were only quite a few geniuses and the main part was about nothing. But now we can see their stupidity in the internet. And at the same time, such people are convenient for politicians or governments - such people are easy to manage.

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Many members think this is a bad idea just because there will be many scammers! I disagree with this and hope OP will not get discouraged or lose interest in this project.
Every new project will be the main target of scammers and since this project is based mainly on telegram, their job will be even easier. But this is not a reason to give up. There are many ways to protect legit users such as hiring moderators for the group or even developing a bot which deletes spam messages and bans spammers.

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July 01, 2022, 11:42:28 AM
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I have seen new accounts over the years even in Gambling come in and participate and grow so it is not like there are no newcomers. It is very old school though,,, cannot even embed social media  Grin

Like you, telegram was the best place during those days of ico scams, a lot of investors hook to certain group

believing that it can change their life after following them. Those are the days, moving forward with sports betting,
telegram is also good in terms of sharing, but also, the forum has lots of options to learn, not just to follow things
but to use those shared picks are search deeper and find the advantages.

I am not saying the forums are without the spammers, the shillers, the bots. There are all coming to the forum and crowding it out. But I think since the moderators improve, fellow posters get better at helping moderate and merit systems as well,,, all of this is in a way making certain threads great and certain others not so.

At least on forums you have individuals and some campaign managers keeping the place tidy, you have nothing of the sort in Telegram where community managers just filter scams and fud and bad bots but they actually encourage shillers unfortunately.

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July 01, 2022, 01:17:08 PM
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I’ve actually been using telegram for very very long but i dont really see any good live betting groups. Like people share their prediction and thoughts around kind… normally i see a lot of fixed scams, posting ridiculous odds and winnings, really sick and tired of these scammers. But i dont really know if it’s easy or good to make one telegram group.

I kinda like community to share and chat around you know, everyone discuss about their games and what to bet and all. So eitherway, i’ve created a telegram group for sports and casino betting discussion. Give me some advice and opinion to better improve my group… it will be good for you all to be part of it too.  Grin

https://t.me/sportsliveforum
It's been over a month or so now since this member had posted the link to the telegram group.
So for those who managed to join in, how has the experience been so far?
Care to share your view on it and if it had helped you in your daily selections on matches?
Success rate perhaps?

Also for those who said they would see an excess amount of spammers if they did join, how has this been for you?
Received any solicitation messages from people who you had never seen on there or never chatted with before?

I have had my experience in receiving such messages and this is why I am selective in who I give out my contact link to and which groups I do join up.

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July 01, 2022, 04:48:06 PM
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The initiative of the process is very good one.But the thing is most of the people will not show interest on it.Secondly the scammmers will get into this green group and make some unwanted hustle their.Then the group initiation was spoiled,the people may follow the scammers.It may leads to the scammers group,the positive feedback of the group also spoiled.

If someone creates a group and discusses it among gamblers, there is no objection. But the problem is that it will be difficult for the admin to control the scammers. If you are active in Telegram, you can see how many unnecessary messages come every day, most of which are scammers.
And scammers pay more attention to the groups in which crypto users are active. So considering these issues there is less interest here to join this group.
Does it really mean that scammers spam all the available telegram groups? Are there not groups free of scammers in telegram. Well, whether there be scammers or not, I am not willing to visit telegram groups for gambling.
Your idea is fine and it will be good of you if you create a thread for same purpose here in the forum.
People will be more comfortable here than in the telegram groups.

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July 01, 2022, 08:35:02 PM
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Why do you need a telegram if there are convenient and specially adapted forums for this? It is convenient to communicate in a telegram, because it is a messenger! I don't think this is the best place to bet.
Telegram is also a good place to join group that you can get daily prediction of games and it do make it easier for gamblers to get fast forcast so anyone can modify to suit their gaming strategy or patterns. Also WhatsApp is a good place just like telegram but telegram is more advance with gamblers from different region of the world.
some people does not trust telegram group because of the level of scams that occur in telegram, but a normal satisfaction of a gambler you must have a channel or you have a group that baby giving you all the necessary informations check gamblings that is legit. For WhatsApp group I will not agree with you because not every country that make use of WhatsApp group some countries WhatsApp is unknown to them where information can be get very easy and simple in social media is from Facebook, Twitter and Instagram so this three different social medium platforms is where purple get information of cryptocurrency and the gambling site and follow it up because many people is no longer trusting any information that come from telegram group because of the level of scams in telegram.
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July 01, 2022, 08:45:26 PM
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Why do you need a telegram if there are convenient and specially adapted forums for this? It is convenient to communicate in a telegram, because it is a messenger! I don't think this is the best place to bet.
Telegram is also a good place to join group that you can get daily prediction of games and it do make it easier for gamblers to get fast forcast so anyone can modify to suit their gaming strategy or patterns. Also WhatsApp is a good place just like telegram but telegram is more advance with gamblers from different region of the world.
some people does not trust telegram group because of the level of scams that occur in telegram, but a normal satisfaction of a gambler you must have a channel or you have a group that baby giving you all the necessary informations check gamblings that is legit. For WhatsApp group I will not agree with you because not every country that make use of WhatsApp group some countries WhatsApp is unknown to them where information can be get very easy and simple in social media is from Facebook, Twitter and Instagram so this three different social medium platforms is where purple get information of cryptocurrency and the gambling site and follow it up because many people is no longer trusting any information that come from telegram group because of the level of scams in telegram.

Scams mostly happen in telegram so most provably experience guys did not want to deal anyone especially if the group created is shady. Maybe there are some curious to know what they can offer but for sure it will end up scamming the same as others do. Many people take advantage with this that's why for newbies its good if they do their own diligence to do some research.

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July 01, 2022, 09:10:25 PM
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Trying to set up and advertise Telegram groups in public, yes, I have my serious thoughts about that too, to be honest. You often see that such groups are founded with only one goal and that is to make money. There are many people who have bad will and try to make money that way. It wouldn't surprise me either if money is asked from players to bet on a certain match because there would be certain info that a match would be fixed. Don't believe such nonsense stories. And be careful guys.

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July 01, 2022, 09:49:51 PM
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Btw, is it running now? What are the difficulties that make it difficult for your telegram group to develop or difficult to get trust from members?
Maybe later can share it here.
Actually, not many groups voluntarily discuss this, especially in betting or gambling. If it's a group about trading, we can find a few. but when it comes to gambling, only a few people are concerned with this field.

The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information
Yes, chatting via telegram group may be more instant than discussed here. Moreover, if that is alive chats are done by the admin and also other several members. This will give the discussion lively and ongoing moreover when we are also in gambling activity at that time, we may be still able to chat in the group. But then the question is can we trust the discussion? it will depend on ourselves, by considering the pros and cons because there will be many opinions about gambling strategy decisionss, tricks, tips, and others.

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July 02, 2022, 10:58:49 AM
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The initiative of the process is very good one.But the thing is most of the people will not show interest on it.Secondly the scammmers will get into this green group and make some unwanted hustle their.Then the group initiation was spoiled,the people may follow the scammers.It may leads to the scammers group,the positive feedback of the group also spoiled.
But, how do you know that only less people will show an interest to this project? This is related to betting and many people are now hook on it. Would it be better if we stop thinking negative in advance as it can discourage us easily to what we are planning but instead, we must continue to deploy our project and observe things if it's going well, if not then we can think of ways to improve it.

If all still fails then that must be the time to accept things and move on. If the admin of the group is active and he guards his group properly then I don't think scammers will get a chance to scam their members because they will be block in an instant and every member of the group will be warned out. 

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July 05, 2022, 12:47:47 PM
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The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information
Yes, chatting via telegram group may be more instant than discussed here. Moreover, if that is alive chats are done by the admin and also other several members. This will give the discussion lively and ongoing moreover when we are also in gambling activity at that time, we may be still able to chat in the group. But then the question is can we trust the discussion? it will depend on ourselves, by considering the pros and cons because there will be many opinions about gambling strategy decisionss, tricks, tips, and others.
On the other side we can miss something important in telegram group. I`m using both - the board and telegram and see that here i spend more time but the information i get here i remember better and it is mostly useful. The same time in telegram i get answers very fast, but from noname users, so i don`t sure that it is truth.

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