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It is true that there is a segment of loyal customers who will always stay with the platform regardless of forum advertising or signature campaigns. The question is whether that support is enough to sustain a regular user base and long term existence. For example, there are new, modern gambling platforms that pop up all the time with a lot of fancy features and user friendly interface. Those platforms are only able to compete on features with the bigger traditional brands because of the bigger budgets they invest in advertising. When something is really well marketed, and well received by users, then it's going to be a tough challenge for these older platforms to compete in the market. Most of these platforms end up going out of business if they don't invest enough in their marketing and do not keep up with the latest technological advances of their peers.
If you ask me, I believe that there are other casinos that might have started to spend some of their marketing budget outside Bitcointalk. Advertising in this forum first is the best path to build a loyal group of users, but capital is limited. To scale the business, it requires some of the casinos to reduce marketing here to increase marketing somewhere else and increase their users on top of their loyal customers. It's merely another trade-off. Although I'm sure you're right, I still think this forum drives a lot of traffic to all the gambling platforms being promoted here. Maybe it is just my perception, but there's not much that generates a large amount of page views on another media site than a forum dedicated to this industry. This is probably one of the largest gambling communities on the Internet, and I guess this is just one more reason why some casinos continue to spend so much money on advertising here.
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May 26, 2022, 08:30:06 PM |
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.
A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.
I think advertising on this forum (signature campaigns and contests) has a big impact on a gambling site... If we look at what happened to Bitvest and 777coin, these two gambling sites of course still survive today because they already have loyal users but to attract potential users it seems that it has decreased. (when an old gambling site stops their campaign on this forum, they are bound to experience a decline in potential new users).
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May 27, 2022, 05:10:47 AM |
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market. A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.
Why wouldn't they be able to attract users and build up reputation without signature campaigns? There are many casinos out there that doesn't use signature campaign or the forum to advertise, but they are doing fine. This forum is a good start to build up reputation among crypto users, but there are other better sources to advertise and gain more users. People use usually google and look for reviews on different sources. As long as they are advertising there, they will be fine without support or campaign here.
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May 27, 2022, 05:56:20 AM |
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The competition between different online casinos is very high.
It's currently going higher if you noticed that there are more and more long-term signature campaigns by casinos in the forum. But I believe it is not that competitive yet because the Bitcoin gambling market is still growing. Therefore, PR and advertising are very important for them. There is a scientific study according to which it is psychologically easier for people to lose (lose in gambling) cryptocurrency than fiat money. Cryptocurrency is perceived as something not entirely serious (although it is not).
That would then be good for ALL the Bitcoin casinos if that study is accurate. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) In addition, among people who are fond of cryptocurrencies, there are many very gambling and risky people.
Therefore, online casinos are interested in the audience of the Bitcointalk cryptocurrency forum.
But to scale the business and remain competitive, they are required to find, and opt-in to other more mainstream markets too.
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May 27, 2022, 06:29:06 AM |
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It's a normal thing in business, whenever a company or firm leaves the market for a long period it's customers have to look for another alternative that suits them and their expectations.
Especially for gamblers, so should their previous gambling site come back from a long extinction it doesn't mean they would have to go back immediately, this things takes time, some very few might return if they're not getting some satisfactory features from the current gambling site they're using but if they are then need not be.
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May 27, 2022, 07:42:34 AM |
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Although I'm sure you're right, I still think this forum drives a lot of traffic to all the gambling platforms being promoted here. Maybe it is just my perception, but there's not much that generates a large amount of page views on another media site than a forum dedicated to this industry. This is probably one of the largest gambling communities on the Internet, and I guess this is just one more reason why some casinos continue to spend so much money on advertising here.
Gambling sites continue to advertise here not because of two reasons, it is because they advertised on this forum and saw traffic, with the traffic more people will introduce people they know and there will be more traffic. This can lead to a successful gambling site in the future by using this forum to start. It's a normal thing in business, whenever a company or firm leaves the market for a long period it's customers have to look for another alternative that suits them and their expectations.
There are many gambling sites in the world now, see only this forum, there are many gambling sites you can choose from which is an alternative to the one you are using. Even if a gambling site stop providing excellent service for their customers in just a single week, this would have driven many customers away from the site to register in another gambling site.
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May 27, 2022, 08:00:48 AM |
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I think this signature campaign can be a very important event because there are so many users of this forum and there are gambling forums that are often accessed by outsiders so that it is certain that this can provide more value to the gambling place to increase visitors or gambling players and increase traffic at the gambling site.
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May 27, 2022, 08:12:52 AM |
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If we look at what happened to Bitvest and 777coin, these two gambling sites of course still survive today because they already have loyal users but to attract potential users it seems that it has decreased. (when an old gambling site stops their campaign on this forum, they are bound to experience a decline in potential new users).
They cannot keep those loyal followers or players if they did not take care of them and they have problems in the deposit, withdrawal, and support although lately there are issues on the hot wallet, it was taken care of, but so far they are doing great without Bitcointalk but for how long we never know, they promised to launch another campaign but so far we never hear from Lightlord again.
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May 27, 2022, 09:06:03 AM |
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.
I think that Reddit and Quora are the other platforms where old casino can get support and through advertising. They share the same similarity with Bitcointalk. For example, their focus is on community engagement. Members are able to share and discuss ideas their ideas freely. A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years . I can't say much about Bitvest but personally didn't have a good experience with 777Coin.
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May 27, 2022, 09:11:37 AM |
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Although I'm sure you're right, I still think this forum drives a lot of traffic to all the gambling platforms being promoted here. Maybe it is just my perception, Your perception is correct if not why would a new Cryptocurrency casino launch or plan to launch their casino here, majority of Cryptocurrency casinos choose to have a representative here because the traffic flow is real and the stat doesn't lie. but there's not much that generates a large amount of page views on another media site than a forum dedicated to this industry. This is probably one of the largest gambling communities on the Internet, and I guess this is just one more reason why some casinos continue to spend so much money on advertising here. Those spending a lot of advertising and marketing in this forum have become huge casinos, sites like Duelbit, Stake.com, and Blackjack.fun have spent a lot on their advertising campaign and this is the reason why these casinos are on top in the industry, you have to take a share of the market and massive advertising can give you a share of the market.
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May 27, 2022, 09:36:02 AM |
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The thing is... where will you find a larger collection of Crypto currency users on the Internet? Even if you find other Crypto currency focused platforms, you still need to find one, where the users are so active. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You need to know that the signature attached to a user that are part of a signature campaign are displayed on EVERY post that the person did, during his posting history on this forum. Example : I have made 11592 posts... so even if someone reads an old post that I have made 5 years ago, the signature will be displayed to the viewer. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 27, 2022, 09:42:11 AM |
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.
Before they decide to take it off and stop the forum advertisement and support, they know already that they can support and raise themselves independently. It was to know the impact on their platform but I guess they already have such a reputation that still makes them survive despite the tough competition around. For as long as they are consistent and still providing good services, there is no reason they will die, I'm expecting them to keep alive. A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.
It supposed to be run with other person in behalf to Lightlord but there is nothing to fill the responsibility. This also happen to many gambling sites and sadly they will die.
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May 27, 2022, 09:47:40 AM |
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The thing is... where will you find a larger collection of Crypto currency users on the Internet? Even if you find other Crypto currency focused platforms, you still need to find one, where the users are so active. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You need to know that the signature attached to a user that are part of a signature campaign are displayed on EVERY post that the person did, during his posting history on this forum. Example : I have made 11592 posts... so even if someone reads an old post that I have made 5 years ago, the signature will be displayed to the viewer. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Fair point. Huge numbers of people interested in crypto goes here first before they go anywhere else, or they are redirected here by the material that they are reading simply because a huge portion of crypto knowledge is sitting inside this very forum. The numbers and the stats this forum generates don't lie, and they are really big in terms of an advertising perspective. And the signatures, as you've pointed out, can be seen almost everywhere no matter if the user posted recently or not.
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Before they decide to take it off and stop the forum advertisement and support, they know already that they can support and raise themselves independently. It was to know the impact on their platform but I guess they already have such a reputation that still makes them survive despite the tough competition around. For as long as they are consistent and still providing good services, there is no reason they will die, I'm expecting them to keep alive.
They have reasons why they stopped the campaign but usually they will reopen again in the future, we have seen that it has been active for a while and many participants are still enthusiastic about promoting gambling campaigns in this forum, I think gambling platforms will always be tied to promotions on the forum because of their interaction of gamblers who are active in the forum.
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May 27, 2022, 10:09:56 AM |
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.
A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.
No, because for seeing your competitor do massive promotions like maintaining their signature campaign and more contest for sure those who pull the plug to stop their campaign will be out dated, we might also see the number of their gamblers decline so if you want to stay in the business you should support your casino by making sure that you have ads running in this forum. For sure this is the key of other big casino to success because they always be seen anywhere and easily to remember by gamblers.
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May 27, 2022, 10:11:43 AM |
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The thing is... where will you find a larger collection of Crypto currency users on the Internet? Even if you find other Crypto currency focused platforms, you still need to find one, where the users are so active. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I honestly don't find any other cryptocurrency focused community that's more reliable and has more active users dwelling and exchanging of information every single day than Bitcointalk forum. Ever wonder why a lot of crypto related project, gambling websites, etc are looking to advertise here? Well, that's because this community is one of the best place where you can find all your potential market. I'm not saying that old Casinos who suddenly stops their promotion and advertisement in this community won't keep up with competition in the market, but it sure will make a huge impact.
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May 27, 2022, 10:18:24 AM |
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No, because for seeing your competitor do massive promotions like maintaining their signature campaign and more contest for sure those who pull the plug to stop their campaign will be out dated, we might also see the number of their gamblers decline so if you want to stay in the business you should support your casino by making sure that you have ads running in this forum. For sure this is the key of other big casino to success because they always be seen anywhere and easily to remember by gamblers.
Maybe some only promote the highest paying campaigns but ignore the gambling platforms that are often played, but that is the right of each individual because campaigning for gambling campaigns or using the platform is an endorsement for each gambling platform.
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May 27, 2022, 10:51:58 AM |
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.
A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.
No, because for seeing your competitor do massive promotions like maintaining their signature campaign and more contest for sure those who pull the plug to stop their campaign will be out dated, we might also see the number of their gamblers decline so if you want to stay in the business you should support your casino by making sure that you have ads running in this forum. For sure this is the key of other big casino to success because they always be seen anywhere and easily to remember by gamblers. I have to disagree, signature campaign is not the key of success for casinos. We have to see it in general perspective, not as a campaign participant. If you see it as campaign participants, yes without a doubt you will always say that signature campaign is the best thing to do for casino. Not because it is worth for the casino, but it worth for you as participant to get extra money by participating. We also should see the fact, not all casinos with signature campaign can compete with other casinos. There are many other factors as the key of success for casinos.
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May 27, 2022, 11:44:12 AM |
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No, because for seeing your competitor do massive promotions like maintaining their signature campaign and more contest for sure those who pull the plug to stop their campaign will be out dated, we might also see the number of their gamblers decline so if you want to stay in the business you should support your casino by making sure that you have ads running in this forum. For sure this is the key of other big casino to success because they always be seen anywhere and easily to remember by gamblers.
I beg to disagree with your opinion regarding this topic. Gambling platforms can still do well even after stopping their promotion on this forum. The given gambling platforms by the OP are Bitvest and 777coin and after their campaigns made on this forum has been stopped, surely they still have a lot of gamblers on their platform however it might have reduce on numbers. Another gambling platforms that are still famous even having their campaign stopped on this forum are Primedice, JustDice, and alot more yet they are still doing fine up until now. This forum is not the only way to advertise and provide promotions and events. They can advertise outside this forum and do events and promotions inside their website.
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Maestro75
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May 27, 2022, 12:02:31 PM |
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A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.
Sorry about Lightlord. But was there a time Bivest and 777Coin stopped running campaigns in this forum? Am sure they stayed behind because at some point CryptopreneurBrainboss had to manage them and he did a good job on them. The signature campaign, being active here and ads here in Bitcointalk are such a big help for new and old casinos
But bitcointalk forum is not the only place casinos and gambling sites place their adverts. There are several others they do that on. Am sure there are casinos which do not even bother coming here to advertise, but they have huge number of users.
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