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May 28, 2022, 09:33:31 AM
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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

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May 28, 2022, 10:38:58 AM
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So you wanted to abuse the casino TOS by helping people which aren't allowed to gamble? and you're newly created account without any reputation, how can someone trust their money to you? lol. Even you're a legit user, it's really risky for the both sides since you could get tracked by them and might faced a legal law if they're really serious.

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May 28, 2022, 11:54:16 AM
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So you wanted to abuse the casino TOS by helping people which aren't allowed to gamble? and you're newly created account without any reputation, how can someone trust their money to you? lol. Even you're a legit user, it's really risky for the both sides since you could get tracked by them and might faced a legal law if they're really serious.

Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.
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May 28, 2022, 01:07:55 PM
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So you wanted to abuse the casino TOS by helping people which aren't allowed to gamble? and you're newly created account without any reputation, how can someone trust their money to you? lol. Even you're a legit user, it's really risky for the both sides since you could get tracked by them and might faced a legal law if they're really serious.

Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

The question is very clear, it's about your reputation since you're a new account, what if the one you represent to make a bet wins let's say he won $1000 how sure the bettor will get his winning, you don't know each other you just delete your chat then its all gone, are you going to offer KYC and send your information to guaranty that you will not run away which I doubt your bettor will take.
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May 28, 2022, 01:31:46 PM
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So you wanted to abuse the casino TOS by helping people which aren't allowed to gamble? and you're newly created account without any reputation, how can someone trust their money to you? lol. Even you're a legit user, it's really risky for the both sides since you could get tracked by them and might faced a legal law if they're really serious.

Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

The question is very clear, it's about your reputation since you're a new account, what if the one you represent to make a bet wins let's say he won $1000 how sure the bettor will get his winning, you don't know each other you just delete your chat then its all gone, are you going to offer KYC and send your information to guaranty that you will not run away which I doubt your bettor will take.

These are the consequences here once a newbies offer like this and new create account is hard to give our trust and our money to them because OP is newly and not trusted or even have a good reputation. I think OP is too risky to deal with because in this forum or even in telegram still a people you deal with is anonymous and how should we now that they are legit or scammers .

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May 28, 2022, 01:32:02 PM
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Why should people trust you in betting League, Tennis and so on, the idea you want to do I have seen here many times, no one responds positively, just jokes and bullshit.

Such tricks have become the flesh and blood of gambling bettors on this forum, there are no crazy people who want to waste money on unclear bets, they here prefer to make bets without a third party.

Today there are several football teams betting on the league, such as: Livelpool vs. Rail Madrid, Australian league KAC vs. ASK and premier league, if they want to place a bet, I think they are smarter than you, they bet more trust in themselves than obscure agents.

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May 28, 2022, 02:06:05 PM
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Gambling is for personal enjoyment only. When you offer such a thing it would be very unethical for us. Because so far gamblers already know where they should get entertainment for themselves.

Do not allow the freedom of play to be transferred to other people. Gambling is for fun and I'm not interested in your offer.

We already know where to look.

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May 28, 2022, 02:06:35 PM
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Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

OP, you just registered on this forum today. How long have you been doing this "business"? How come you haven't already gained some reputation in the community?

It's interesting to note that only newbies with offers like these pop up.

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May 28, 2022, 02:27:19 PM
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So, we should send the money and wait for a payback from you?, You will walk away with the money. I can be sure of that. There is no reason to trust a newbie.

What about an escrow? would you agree about working with an escrow for this project?. We could send the money to an escrow, then you place the bet, if it wins you send the profit to the escrow and if it loses you get the money from the escrow. This would be a legit way to work this.

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May 28, 2022, 02:42:40 PM
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So, we should send the money and wait for a payback from you?, You will walk away with the money. I can be sure of that. There is no reason to trust a newbie.

I agree. This guy is trying to rip us off. Apart from the concerns expressed in the previous comments, that he has no reputation on the forum or that he just registered today, I think one thing: if this guy is confident in his betting system and makes money, I don't know why he wants to bet with other people's money. The time a person has is limited, and if you bet with other people's money you are going to win less than if you bet with your own.

If your answer is that you don't have enough money or something like that, you have managed your bankroll disastrously, because to offer that service you should have been betting for years, and in that time a winner, reinvesting the winnings, can make a lot of money.


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You can only get clients on services like this to people who personally knew you. In this forum, its like finding a needle in a haystack. A high rank user will not even get one unless he is are really a trusted user.

Right now, they can only see you as a scammer who whenever received the BTC, will be gone forever. They wouldn't even try looking for you because they understood already that its gone.

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You are likely not going to have attention and followers on that here at least not from high ranking members because you will be seen as scam. IMO I consider that there are no certainty in such. And as far that is said, there are gambling site that people visit for such information and probably you may also be sourcing the information from those sites and selling for money while they can get them for free from online.

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Unless you provide some method of verification that we can trust you or something, then there's absolutely no way your service is going to be accepted. Not to mention that it's also a service that offers to bypass restrictions, you're going to have fewer people who'd be willing to accept such a risk. You'd probably have better chances trying for people close to you or at the very least, who know you enough to actually trust you without presenting any actual proof other than your words.

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May 28, 2022, 06:29:40 PM
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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

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Also you can write contact, we can contact you.

Apart from going into the discussion about whether this is allowed or not, why would anyone send their money to a Newbie account?

You need to show some previous experience, trust and/or use escrow if you think you are legit. On bitcoin talk, no one is going to send you any money first.

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You may be able to post your service here but the question is, do you have a good reputation and many people have trusted you?. If those questions are proven and answered then we can say that you really are to be trusted regarding the forum account rank that you have. I don't much like telegram, too many scammers lurking anywhere stalking a person who will be their victim. There's also a barrier that prevent people from sending funds to you which it could be taken (scammed) away and they won't get it back.

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So you wanted to abuse the casino TOS by helping people which aren't allowed to gamble? and you're newly created account without any reputation, how can someone trust their money to you? lol. Even you're a legit user, it's really risky for the both sides since you could get tracked by them and might faced a legal law if they're really serious.

Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.
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are you going to offer KYC and send your information to guaranty that you will not run away which I doubt your bettor will take.
It still won't help, he can submit fake or fabricated information, who knows. It's just a piece of information that can be faked after all where else the other side is money to risked by the account owner.

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May 28, 2022, 08:53:48 PM
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So you wanted to abuse the casino TOS by helping people which aren't allowed to gamble? and you're newly created account without any reputation, how can someone trust their money to you? lol. Even you're a legit user, it's really risky for the both sides since you could get tracked by them and might faced a legal law if they're really serious.

Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

Wow you are a BETTING broker? Damn that sounds so nice! and scammy... How long have you been fooling around?  Cheesy . You just don't comprehend how knowledgeable people in this forum are. Offline bets our ass. We would either just bet on sportsbooks than trust our money to some random anonymous guy who just claims to be profound on the 'gambling' field. Just end this BS bro.

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May 28, 2022, 09:24:45 PM
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So you wanted to abuse the casino TOS by helping people which aren't allowed to gamble? and you're newly created account without any reputation, how can someone trust their money to you? lol. Even you're a legit user, it's really risky for the both sides since you could get tracked by them and might faced a legal law if they're really serious.

Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

Wow you are a BETTING broker? Damn that sounds so nice! and scammy... How long have you been fooling around?  Cheesy . You just don't comprehend how knowledgeable people in this forum are. Offline bets our ass. We would either just bet on sportsbooks than trust our money to some random anonymous guy who just claims to be profound on the 'gambling' field. Just end this BS bro.
^ You definitely pointed it out, this OP was desperate of making money for his fraud activity, posting multiple threads with the same content and thought.
No one will trust random people over the internet, because as common practice, many people have been scammed by third-party people.
As we know if there is no evidence/proof that proves OP has the potential of making money. This will probably be a scam and no one will waste their time if they did not have a benefit. Probably the only solution is to stay away from this service or good luck to them.
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May 28, 2022, 09:25:18 PM
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This can lead into a scam broker, so better not to trust anyone with regards to this one.
If you really want to gamble then do it with yourself, its more fun if you know what you are doin. If you are still not qualified to gamble then don’t push yourself because you might experience bad things later on. To OP, it requires good reputation to be a broker, this is not just an easy plug and play because you need to be more professional.
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May 28, 2022, 10:35:47 PM
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OP is breaking forum rules he already has a similar offer in the service section

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He is not addressing valid questions about his reputation and his offer he thought that he can just create an offer and it will be ok
his offer is unclear there is an intention to scam, he's not offering an escrow, and what about if the bettor wins how he will guaranty to the bettor that he represents that he'll get his winnings when he cannot prove anything that he is legit and trustworthy.

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May 28, 2022, 11:51:55 PM
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This can lead into a scam broker, so better not to trust anyone with regards to this one.
If you really want to gamble then do it with yourself, its more fun if you know what you are doin. If you are still not qualified to gamble then don’t push yourself because you might experience bad things later on. To OP, it requires good reputation to be a broker, this is not just an easy plug and play because you need to be more professional.

if you are already here in the forum,  i don't think you need another person to place your bets. maybe, this is for players who are restricted on specific sites where they want to place their bets with. otherwise, you don't need this kind of service. and without escrow, i don't think this one is legit. high likely you will lose funds on this kind of service.

and as mentioned by coin-investor above, he is not answering valid questions, then doubt the motive of the motive. it is easy to place bets nowadays. if the site is restricted in your country, you can always find a reputable site allowing vpn-use on their site.

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May 29, 2022, 02:52:27 AM
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Wow you are a BETTING broker? Damn that sounds so nice! and scammy... How long have you been fooling around?  Cheesy . You just don't comprehend how knowledgeable people in this forum are. Offline bets our ass. We would either just bet on sportsbooks than trust our money to some random anonymous guy who just claims to be profound on the 'gambling' field. Just end this BS bro.
Indeed. He is newly registered user (didnt establish his account yet) and now offering such service. It seems he's not aware that gamblers here are more knowledgeable than him. Its a scam offer and its unlikely for him to attract the gamblers here. Why do we have to use a third party to gamble? I'd rather experience and enjoy it myself regardless of the result than to entrust my money to a stranger.

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May 29, 2022, 02:56:43 AM
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So, we should send the money and wait for a payback from you?, You will walk away with the money. I can be sure of that. There is no reason to trust a newbie.

What about an escrow? would you agree about working with an escrow for this project?. We could send the money to an escrow, then you place the bet, if it wins you send the profit to the escrow and if it loses you get the money from the escrow. This would be a legit way to work this.

Yes, there is no reason to trust a newbie as we know scammers create new accounts to scam people... if anyone is interested in OP's service he needs to use escrow (if OP agrees to that).



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He is already trying his luck there in the service section. But I don't think that anyone would trust him. here is link by the way https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60241832#msg60241832
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May 29, 2022, 04:05:44 AM
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Wow you are a BETTING broker? Damn that sounds so nice! and scammy... How long have you been fooling around?  Cheesy . You just don't comprehend how knowledgeable people in this forum are. Offline bets our ass. We would either just bet on sportsbooks than trust our money to some random anonymous guy who just claims to be profound on the 'gambling' field. Just end this BS bro.
Indeed. He is newly registered user (didnt establish his account yet) and now offering such service. It seems he's not aware that gamblers here are more knowledgeable than him. Its a scam offer and its unlikely for him to attract the gamblers here. Why do we have to use a third party to gamble? I'd rather experience and enjoy it myself regardless of the result than to entrust my money to a stranger.
actually this is the problem here , He is a new account and offering this kind of service that we knew need reputable person with  long time experience here in this community and specially in Gambling .

anyway we have seen plenty of this kind even in the past but none did something stupid believing the offer .









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May 29, 2022, 09:16:51 AM
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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

Telegram contact:
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PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.
You mean you want a serious contact that know what they are doing? This is funny looking at they way you have explained yourself with having us to believe you. You thing someone will just send you money to run things for them with having to trust you or know you. Gambling is a big world with different perspective and you can't just bring an idea and expect us to jump on it without knowing the tendencies of you being trusted. Chill op and relax, so many scams everywhere.

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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

Telegram contact:
@romanzelovsky

PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.
You mean you want a serious contact that know what they are doing? This is funny looking at they way you have explained yourself with having us to believe you. You thing someone will just send you money to run things for them with having to trust you or know you. Gambling is a big world with different perspective and you can't just bring an idea and expect us to jump on it without knowing the tendencies of you being trusted. Chill op and relax, so many scams everywhere.
you might see it like scam or something unknown to you,but never the less what we have not practice before or experience how it function can not be concluded as a scam to us, i know were you are deriving at Desmong, not every body who set up project is scam project and not every body who glamoured for something is a scam, I'm expecting you to say he should build his reputation

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May 29, 2022, 10:39:35 AM
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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world.

These are just words you need to show us something for us to make belief on that you offer, I don't know how you can prove that but testimonials who avail of your service is a good one.

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We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

You suggest escrow but how it's going to be if the bettor wins how is the process of giving him his earnings this is one important thing that you should address, we don't want to judge you but you need to prove that you are legit first you just sign up here did not build up your reputation here first.


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May 29, 2022, 12:04:56 PM
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Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately --forum users know these old tricks.
There is no such kind of service and I have been here for how many years, and I witnessed a lot of scams, it is the same to them, to be honest.
You cant fool forum members OP.









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This sounds shady and there are already lots of red flags. I know that Op wants to offer his service but users nowadays want assurance. How will you provide transparency and fairness through your service? It would be risky to entrust funds to an unknown person without an established reputation. It would be better to enjoy gambling than to risk it with other people's service.
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What a pointless thread. Op clearly tried scamming people, but couldn't and took off immediately. These fools actually think that it's very easy to scam members of this forum.

Also, I don't understand why some members are requesting him to provide something more concrete to support his statements since it's pretty evident that he is a pathetic scammer who made it obvious that he is up to no good.

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If I understand correctly, you are basically allowing players to bet more than the max bet they are allowed by using some local bookies and stuff. It's mostly because the player is limited or the game is low level and match-fixing and stuff can happen there.

I mean it might or might not be a good service depending on who uses it and for what reason why even if we don't get into that, how would you assure someone that you will not simply run away with the funds sent to you for betting? I mean it's obvious to be sceptical because you're a newbie rank user and offering such services need some level of trust or past record and you don't have either of them.

I'm not interested but from a neutral perspective just trying to understand the dynamics of your service.

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OP is not a very skillful scammer. The only reason someone will hand over his cash to you is when you have gained their trust. And trust is no cheap, it is very expensive to gain, in fact it is priceless. You wouldn't get any client from this this forum because they are smarter and wiser. If you are really making money, you wouldn't tell us to bet through you. You would have sourced for funds and keep betting alone because humans are naturally selfish. You are informing us either because you want to use our money and make profit for yourself or you are planning to scam someone.   

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May 29, 2022, 05:22:53 PM
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You can only get clients on services like this to people who personally knew you. In this forum, its like finding a needle in a haystack. A high rank user will not even get one unless he is are really a trusted user.

Right now, they can only see you as a scammer who whenever received the BTC, will be gone forever. They wouldn't even try looking for you because they understood already that its gone.
Escrow can be used too but even then it would be quite messy for the escrow to find out what happened in case of a dispute unless the escrow is deeply involved in the whole process and monitors what bet was placed and what was the outcome. Telegram history can be cleared and screenshots can be faked so it's impossible to even prove whose fault it was if things go haywire, which is a good possibility here.

Unless you provide some method of verification that we can trust you or something, then there's absolutely no way your service is going to be accepted. Not to mention that it's also a service that offers to bypass restrictions, you're going to have fewer people who'd be willing to accept such a risk. You'd probably have better chances trying for people close to you or at the very least, who know you enough to actually trust you without presenting any actual proof other than your words.
Agree, even proof of funds by singing a message containing some funds will help his case.

I don't understand why someone would want to bet through him when they can bet directly on SB, Stake and others and they have very high limits for almost all the games or you can request through support if you need higher limits.

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OP is not a very skillful scammer. The only reason someone will hand over his cash to you is when you have gained their trust. And trust is no cheap, it is very expensive to gain, in fact it is priceless. You wouldn't get any client from this this forum because they are smarter and wiser. If you are really making money, you wouldn't tell us to bet through you. You would have sourced for funds and keep betting alone because humans are naturally selfish. You are informing us either because you want to use our money and make profit for yourself or you are planning to scam someone.   


Even if you have gained trust, it's still risky to give your hard earn money to someone else.  If you want to bet, then bet yourself and do not send your funds to anyone for this purpose.
Usually, scammers will offer these types of services. If OP is too good in betting, why not he himself make bets and make money. Avoid him or you will lose money.

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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place.

I honestly can't understand why someone would choose to stop placing bets in person to let you place bets for them? what would be the advantage of that?

1 - The risk of you running away with the person's money is very high

2 - you are not psychic, so you can also make a mistake in the bet and lose money from it, you will not lose because you didn't take money out of your pocket, but the person who takes the money out of your pocket will lose when you lose a bet

PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.

Speaking of " only serious contacts ", you haven't posted any proof of the things you are saying, but do you want people to take you seriously?

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May 29, 2022, 06:35:39 PM
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This can lead into a scam broker, so better not to trust anyone with regards to this one.
If you really want to gamble then do it with yourself, its more fun if you know what you are doin. If you are still not qualified to gamble then don’t push yourself because you might experience bad things later on. To OP, it requires good reputation to be a broker, this is not just an easy plug and play because you need to be more professional.

if you are already here in the forum,  i don't think you need another person to place your bets. maybe, this is for players who are restricted on specific sites where they want to place their bets with. otherwise, you don't need this kind of service. and without escrow, i don't think this one is legit. high likely you will lose funds on this kind of service.

and as mentioned by coin-investor above, he is not answering valid questions, then doubt the motive of the motive. it is easy to place bets nowadays. if the site is restricted in your country, you can always find a reputable site allowing vpn-use on their site.
You're right, that's what we need to emphasize. We know where to bet according to our own will without the need for third-party direction. Users on forums are already familiar with casino gambling systems, Even a newbie knows when he sees the reputation of a casino he will go to drop his money at the gambling house.

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May 29, 2022, 06:45:46 PM
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That's definitely no for me because it seems vague to hand over my money to someone whom I don't even know. Why would I even hand over my money to even my friends or colleagues whom I know since long long years just to gamble it? I Can't even do that when Im high on Booz.  Grin
So now imagine how is it even possible with service provider like you? These things can only happen if you have professional services, vouches, proper protocols to escrow the money that we may (??) handover to you so that you can gamble with it.

Moreover, gambling is something that we do to have fun in first place. It gives feel for the casino and that adrenaline rush which makes sense to keep on playing. Im out with this for sure.
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Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

The question is very clear, it's about your reputation since you're a new account, what if the one you represent to make a bet wins let's say he won $1000 how sure the bettor will get his winning, you don't know each other you just delete your chat then its all gone, are you going to offer KYC and send your information to guaranty that you will not run away which I doubt your bettor will take.
OP never intended to help, he really has other intentions and goals. why doesn't he just take a loan for his betting capital, why does he offer help to others with the lure of profit sharing? The OP is a cheater, hope he leaves this forum soon


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May 29, 2022, 08:24:38 PM
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Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately
Even though there's an update from the OP, the service she offers is totally a nuisance. Anyone that believes in the word of someone who's possibly gambling addicted and looking for someone else fund to fuel her ambition deserves a world best fool award.
Having said that, it's never a good idea to entrust a strange not to talk of sending the person your fund so she gamble with your fund on your behave

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This kind of post also seems a bit misleading to me. If you have the opportunity to make money gambling, or if you have good information, then you are never going to post something like this on a forum. What I'm afraid of is that competitions are offered where they supposedly already know the result, but then you lose while you have bet a lot of money and then you lose everything.

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Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately
Even though there's an update from the OP, the service she offers is totally a nuisance. Anyone that believes in the word of someone who's possibly gambling addicted and looking for someone else fund to fuel her ambition deserves a world best fool award.
Having said that, it's never a good idea to entrust a strange not to talk of sending the person your fund so she gamble with your fund on your behave
We can easily notice this as a scam attempt, so be careful on dealing with this kind of person especially those who are offering their services in exchange of something. Betting are easy and fun, you can do this on your own so I don’t see any big reason to look for someone to bet for you, if you can’t do gambling alone better not to try at all or else you’ll just miss the fun and just lose the money. Luckily, all the post here are negative about this service and I hope this is already enough for the newbies to get warned.

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So, we should send the money and wait for a payback from you?, You will walk away with the money. I can be sure of that. There is no reason to trust a newbie.
This.

When a newbie gets to ask a service, you will really have hard time being trusted by the community even if we're not going to be your clients. It's just all about the worry because it has happened many times before.

What about an escrow? would you agree about working with an escrow for this project?. We could send the money to an escrow, then you place the bet, if it wins you send the profit to the escrow and if it loses you get the money from the escrow. This would be a legit way to work this.
As a solution, having an escrow will help you OP to be trusted if you do agree to avail such service when someone demands that for you. For the list of it: Recommended bitcointalk escrow services

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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.
I can see you are very confident with this your offer but we understand to understand how  it really works.
Do you have a Telegram group where interested persons can join and get more info about what you do?
Do we have to send money to you before we can make money from your service?
I decided to ask this question because it looks like you are very confident about what you have written. Do you expect us to send you fund to play games for us in the first place? No body does that op.

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May 29, 2022, 11:46:47 PM
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Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately
Even though there's an update from the OP, the service she offers is totally a nuisance. Anyone that believes in the word of someone who's possibly gambling addicted and looking for someone else fund to fuel her ambition deserves a world best fool award.
Having said that, it's never a good idea to entrust a strange not to talk of sending the person your fund so she gamble with your fund on your behave
We can easily notice this as a scam attempt, so be careful on dealing with this kind of person especially those who are offering their services in exchange of something. Betting are easy and fun, you can do this on your own so I don’t see any big reason to look for someone to bet for you, if you can’t do gambling alone better not to try at all or else you’ll just miss the fun and just lose the money. Luckily, all the post here are negative about this service and I hope this is already enough for the newbies to get warned.

I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.

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We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing.]

Yeah, I totally trust you.  Grin Why would you even going to scam me? You are totally legit. I can see it from your newbie account and your high quality professional forum thread. Grin
There are tons of sportsbook websites on the internet, some of them might allow countries, that are restricted on others. Why would people from restricted countries give money to someone betting for them? This is either a pretty stupid scam or a terribly wrong business idea.
Where's the guarantee that you won't run away with the coins? Where's the guarantee that you will send all the profits to your "customers"?

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Also you can write contact, we can contact you.

This is hilarious. Your so called "offer" looks like a joke, and you are looking for serious people? I can't stop laughing. Grin

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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

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PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.
sorry but so far for the 3 pages of this thread , it seems that there is no one who are interested in  taking your offer , does this mean you are truly legit ?  or people here are aware of what will come to their funds once trusted on you?
Hope that you will bring light to anyone and prove that there is no scam coming their way once they join your OFFER.

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Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

OP, you just registered on this forum today. How long have you been doing this "business"? How come you haven't already gained some reputation in the community?

It's interesting to note that only newbies with offers like these pop up.

I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.

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May 30, 2022, 12:32:58 PM
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I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.


If you read carefully the content of this thread and not only read the chitchat, You will fully understand the content of this service, He is offering a middle man bet for user that has a gambling restriction IRL. The only problem with his service is his account is just a newbie and he has no credentials that will assure the validity of his service as safe. If he will hire escrow to secure the funds of his customer then he will temporarily use his own funds to do the bet for his client. The client will be safe this way and also there's no need to look on his account as newbie since funds is escrowed.

But I doubt user will use this kind of service while they can use VPN to bypass casino restriction with same risk than this.

As far as bet tips are concerned, it is enough for the OP to create a thread and publish his tips in advance for a while. If his predictions are correct, there will certainly be users who will want to cooperate longer. Of course, escrow would be a safe solution, but not everyone like to hinder themselves. In my opinion, OP should show its achievements and results, and then there will certainly be people willing to take its services

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May 30, 2022, 07:25:19 PM
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I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.
I thought you need help in betting because this is what your title is saying but it turns out that you are the ones that will bet using our money but how can we trust a service like this? And the big question is why will someone avail this, I mean why can they just bet with their own? Are people nowadays too lazy enough that they can't place a single bet?

I don't think that can tax them a lot of time or effort. If this is about country restriction or any other else, sorry but if I am the bettor I won't still try this but I will just find a betting site that I can fully access even if they are not perfect but at least I am playing fairly and I am confident. Results won't matter at all with me, win or lose.

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May 30, 2022, 08:51:30 PM
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I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.


If you read carefully the content of this thread and not only read the chitchat, You will fully understand the content of this service, He is offering a middle man bet for user that has a gambling restriction IRL. The only problem with his service is his account is just a newbie and he has no credentials that will assure the validity of his service as safe. If he will hire escrow to secure the funds of his customer then he will temporarily use his own funds to do the bet for his client. The client will be safe this way and also there's no need to look on his account as newbie since funds is escrowed.

But I doubt user will use this kind of service while they can use VPN to bypass casino restriction with same risk than this.

As far as bet tips are concerned, it is enough for the OP to create a thread and publish his tips in advance for a while. If his predictions are correct, there will certainly be users who will want to cooperate longer. Of course, escrow would be a safe solution, but not everyone like to hinder themselves. In my opinion, OP should show its achievements and results, and then there will certainly be people willing to take its services
If there's no proof or something that could really show his statistics then the community arent that dumb on to sub on this one nor trust someone with their funds and let them be the ones who do make out bets considering that frauds and scams are really that rampant then trusting money or funds nowadays is less or unlikely to happen unless if he could able to build up something that will really be that an assurance
at least that its really not a bad idea on trusting him but in overall or general sense on who the heck would be giving their funds into someone if they could actually bet their own?
Analysis making wont really be that much of a difference considering you would only need to choose in between the two specially on sports betting.

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May 30, 2022, 09:00:41 PM
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I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.
how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.

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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.
Thanks to internet and cryptocurrency this kind of middleman service isn't necessary anymore. Gamblers have direct access to betting platforms with safety, legitimacy and can place bets in real time, checking the odds and every other informations by themselves. However, talking about lower leagues which aren't disponible in popular betting sites, I think it's not worth anyway, because these are the ones where fixed matches are prone to happen.with more frequency. Since gamblers are able to bet on main leagues, with assurance they aren't going to be scammed, why would they still go for the lower ones?

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For several reasons, I think this op should not be trusted -
1- He's a new member of this forum and without any form of reputation.
2- He said should contact him on telegram, we all know that telegram is the den of scammers.
3- He is offering a service that is totally illegal that if caught, could put him in prison and have his patronizers or customers loose their hard earned money.
4- He could be the scammer himself.
I personally would advice every one to stay away this for the above reasons, if your country does not permit you to gamble, look for other kind of games permitted to play and do not get yourself and your money involved on an illegal service.

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May 30, 2022, 09:31:09 PM
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I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.
how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.
This can’t be trusted, we know this kind of scheme and if this thread continues to be bump most probably newbies might carelessly contact OP and use his scam services. Betting is fun, and its more fun if you do it alone which put you on a good position and lesser risk to lose your money on a scammer. I don’t like this kind of services, better to gamble on your own.
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May 30, 2022, 11:46:37 PM
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Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately
Even though there's an update from the OP, the service she offers is totally a nuisance. Anyone that believes in the word of someone who's possibly gambling addicted and looking for someone else fund to fuel her ambition deserves a world best fool award.
Having said that, it's never a good idea to entrust a strange not to talk of sending the person your fund so she gamble with your fund on your behave
We can easily notice this as a scam attempt, so be careful on dealing with this kind of person especially those who are offering their services in exchange of something. Betting are easy and fun, you can do this on your own so I don’t see any big reason to look for someone to bet for you, if you can’t do gambling alone better not to try at all or else you’ll just miss the fun and just lose the money. Luckily, all the post here are negative about this service and I hope this is already enough for the newbies to get warned.

I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.
@goaldigger I am surprised either when I was the OP offer and I ask myself when did gambling before this difficult especially sports bet which is the easiest form of gambling though it requires a lot of game research and understanding both team strength.
@keyscore44 You don't know what OP's intentions are? When it totally a clear shady offering and the last time I checked people that provide free betting can do it openly and if someone I don't want to risk her own money and want to use someone else money such a person shouldn't be trusted

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The large-cap on the title and the two threads with the similar offers are already big red flags, you don't have to do that if you are legit the information is unclear he talked about deposits and making money together but there is no offer of protection for bettors it's useless using an escrow because OP can easily get away if the bettors win he just cash out and fled with the winning.
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May 31, 2022, 05:41:05 AM
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The large-cap on the title and the two threads with the similar offers are already big red flags, you don't have to do that if you are legit the information is unclear he talked about deposits and making money together but there is no offer of protection for bettors it's useless using an escrow because OP can easily get away if the bettors win he just cash out and fled with the winning.
You got the right point here mate , Why need to Make the title Capitalized when it can easily put with rightful way? and also  if he is truly willing to provide good information then you must always be Online but OP is not completely reporting here if there is even one who contacted him or none till now.
For several reasons, I think this op should not be trusted -
1- He's a new member of this forum and without any form of reputation.
2- He said should contact him on telegram, we all know that telegram is the den of scammers.
3- He is offering a service that is totally illegal that if caught, could put him in prison and have his patronizers or customers loose their hard earned money.
4- He could be the scammer himself.
I personally would advice every one to stay away this for the above reasons, if your country does not permit you to gamble, look for other kind of games permitted to play and do not get yourself and your money involved on an illegal service.
supporting this and Indeed those are the cases OP must prove we are wrong here and if not? then never give attention to this Offering .

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For several reasons, I think this op should not be trusted -
1- He's a new member of this forum and without any form of reputation.
2- He said should contact him on telegram, we all know that telegram is the den of scammers.
3- He is offering a service that is totally illegal that if caught, could put him in prison and have his patronizers or customers loose their hard earned money.
4- He could be the scammer himself.
I personally would advice every one to stay away this for the above reasons, if your country does not permit you to gamble, look for other kind of games permitted to play and do not get yourself and your money involved on an illegal service.
All the points you made are valid but sound very similar to each other since the biggest and main problem here is trust. OP has no proven history nor some kind of reputation of sending your money to anyone like that means you are begging to get scammed. Your point about illegal is also something to be wary of although I feel in such cases it would be him who would get intro trouble because he will place those bets. Still, you can be tracked and no reason to get in the mess anyways.

I get his point that some people want to bet big on events like a low-level soccer league but cannot and he can help them but without some kind of history, it's impossible and not advisable to send him money.
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I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.
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I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.
People here in community are already knowledgeable about what OP is offering as we can see? none had given their support to what is this topic all about and Telegram? i have tons of problems about telegram over the years so I believe that it is not respectable to let OP handles our bets when we can do this on our own , and just try joining some groups that gives tip so we can bet in rightful team or events .









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I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.
People here in community are already knowledgeable about what OP is offering as we can see? none had given their support to what is this topic all about and Telegram? i have tons of problems about telegram over the years so I believe that it is not respectable to let OP handles our bets when we can do this on our own , and just try joining some groups that gives tip so we can bet in rightful team or events .
We know that telegram is full of scammers, so whenever someone mentions telegram as the only way to contact them it is very suspicious, after all we are in the first forum dedicated exclusively to bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general so I would think this is an ideal place in which we could carry conversations about it.

I could understand trying to move the discussion to telegram or another app if this was a cooking forum or something like that, but since this is not the case the offer of the OP becomes incredibly shady and it should not be trusted.

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I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.
how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.
It is not a problem and a possible decision. If someone have a trusted account and wants to cheat, it is right decision not to use such account(i don`t like it but this is real world with scamers, cheaters, criminals).
But anyway - i don`t think that anyone need such kind of help, even if it is true(but i don`t believe it).

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I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.
how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.
It is not a problem and a possible decision. If someone have a trusted account and wants to cheat, it is right decision not to use such account(i don`t like it but this is real world with scamers, cheaters, criminals).
But anyway - i don`t think that anyone need such kind of help, even if it is true(but i don`t believe it).

Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554

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Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.
Yes, it is so. I just speaking about that it is possible that this newbie account is well-known user. But is doesn`t mean that we can trust such kind of deals.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554
He is even answering there. But i still don`t understand why he isn`t a scam. May be someone can believe after private talk with the OP but i like my money too much, so i willn`t even try to know any details.

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June 03, 2022, 07:34:14 AM
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Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554


Even though both threads are getting bad feedback he still kept it open or does not know how to lock a thread, OP is still defending his thread and trying to make it legit but from all angles and by not giving us more detail on how will the transaction go, this thread lacks the trust to make the offer a good one.
It's just tempting people to make money without giving them a guarantee on how they will return the money when the bettor wins.

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He is even answering there. But i still don`t understand why he isn`t a scam. May be someone can believe after private talk with the OP but i like my money too much, so i willn`t even try to know any details.
Of course the offer is a scam, but many members don't care about scam offers because they have their own analysis for betting on tennis sports gambling, I believe we already know the purpose of the offer and maybe no one contacted him personally to be interested in the offer.

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June 03, 2022, 09:05:45 AM
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Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.

All the more reason to avoid accepting such offers from newbie accounts. This is, in fact, the most common form of fraud - attempting to con gullible victims with false promises of easy money.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554


Yeah. The good news is that no one here is so naive as to bite the bait. I hope.  Wink

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June 03, 2022, 11:46:26 AM
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Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.

All the more reason to avoid accepting such offers from newbie accounts. This is, in fact, the most common form of fraud - attempting to con gullible victims with false promises of easy money.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554


Yeah. The good news is that no one here is so naive as to bite the bait. I hope.  Wink


People on this forum focus on a person's reputation. So if you're offering services, you better create a good impression first. People are now being skeptical and getting rid of scammers and fraudsters. The services that you offer are actually good but there's no assurance of safety and transparency.
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June 03, 2022, 12:02:31 PM
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People on this forum focus on a person's reputation. So if you're offering services, you better create a good impression first. People are now being skeptical and getting rid of scammers and fraudsters. The services that you offer are actually good but there's no assurance of safety and transparency.
^ Definitely right, it should be an established member here in the forum.
It is really hard to trust someone else on the internet because you don't know who are dealing with, scammers nowadays are very smart, they pretend anything they do as long they can lure money and be next to their victim.
However, I don't believe that OP had already had a victim here in the forum, all users that were here are very clever when it comes to investment or putting money and we know also how to verify scams, in short, lit is not easy to fool.
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June 03, 2022, 05:20:06 PM
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How can we trust you? because of your account is created only 10 days ago, there are no way to trust a newbie user. If anyone pay you first then huge possibility to get scam by you. Even i will never go with such offers by any senior member, because i'm playing in some casino sites if i have an enough experienced.  

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People on this forum focus on a person's reputation. So if you're offering services, you better create a good impression first. People are now being skeptical and getting rid of scammers and fraudsters. The services that you offer are actually good but there's no assurance of safety and transparency.

That's exactly what it should be. In a community like this, the reputation is the best asset a business or individual can have. Good reputation = open doors to opportunities. It seems that some people like to ignore this and create fake accounts. That's sad and honestly, doesn't make a lot of sense, even if it's not for malicious reasons.

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He is even answering there. But i still don`t understand why he isn`t a scam. May be someone can believe after private talk with the OP but i like my money too much, so i willn`t even try to know any details.
Of course the offer is a scam, but many members don't care about scam offers because they have their own analysis for betting on tennis sports gambling, I believe we already know the purpose of the offer and maybe no one contacted him personally to be interested in the offer.
The best way is always to make your own research when you are ready to spend your money. Only in this way you can be sure that it was your decision and your responsibility for win or lose.
I like to talk with cheaters sometimes, when i have a free time - just to hear about new ways of cheating. May be someone talked with him and can share the results with us.

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Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately --forum users know these old tricks.
There is no such kind of service and I have been here for how many years, and I witnessed a lot of scams, it is the same to them, to be honest.
You cant fool forum members OP.

I think op is a novice scammer that doesn't know much about what offer he want to render. At least if he think is product is good and genuine, he should have given us a reply rather than  staying mute or reading everything we are commenting here and staying mute. This offer is the most weak and unserious betting I have ever seen. Why will I give someone money to bet for me when I have no idea on how the person looks like and what could happen toy fund in the next minutes.

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Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately --forum users know these old tricks.
There is no such kind of service and I have been here for how many years, and I witnessed a lot of scams, it is the same to them, to be honest.
You cant fool forum members OP.

I think op is a novice scammer that doesn't know much about what offer he want to render. At least if he think is product is good and genuine, he should have given us a reply rather than  staying mute or reading everything we are commenting here and staying mute. This offer is the most weak and unserious betting I have ever seen. Why will I give someone money to bet for me when I have no idea on how the person looks like and what could happen toy fund in the next minutes.
@OP thought that having him create a thread here and leaving it like that would give him a chance to get a lot of subscribers. That's not the way to do it because if he wants to get customers, he has to actively manage his thread and provide answers if someone asks about his service. We also don't know when @OP will come back to his thread and answer our questions and make us doubt his service.
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June 06, 2022, 02:18:03 PM
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Who will be interested on these offers when we've got number of gambling platforms that gives access to different games as well as all the leagues played around the globe. In the past people used such services through bookies, now everything have changed and people want everything to be enjoyed themselves and not through someone else. OP thinks that if he mention serious people only contact me, then everyone thinks this to be a legitimate service.

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June 06, 2022, 02:51:42 PM
Last edit: June 06, 2022, 03:23:35 PM by virasog
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Who will be interested on these offers when we've got number of gambling platforms that gives access to different games as well as all the leagues played around the globe. In the past people used such services through bookies, now everything have changed and people want everything to be enjoyed themselves and not through someone else. OP thinks that if he mention serious people only contact me, then everyone thinks this to be a legitimate service.


Even though many online betting sites allow us to bet directly on matches through cryptocurrencies but the role of bookies is not completely eliminated. There are many people who still use the services of bookies to place bets. Tradition betting through bookies is still popular in many parts of the world.
However, i feel no confidence in trusting a newbie OP offering the betting help.

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June 06, 2022, 04:45:51 PM
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Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

Telegram contact:
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PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.

This absolutely violate the TOS of every casino. And I guess that you should deserve a negative feedback. This service shouldn't be published on this section, and I invite moderators to remove this thread in way to avoid

users that asks to this sir this kind of service.

Stay absolutely away from this user !

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June 06, 2022, 05:26:00 PM
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Who will be interested on these offers when we've got number of gambling platforms that gives access to different games as well as all the leagues played around the globe. In the past people used such services through bookies, now everything have changed and people want everything to be enjoyed themselves and not through someone else. OP thinks that if he mention serious people only contact me, then everyone thinks this to be a legitimate service.
I think the OP tried to give the impression that someone joining him could actually become a profitable gambler but without saying it outright, or at least that is the way I read the content of the OP, as otherwise the offer does not make sense at all because we can gamble in almost any event that we may want thanks to the different casinos we have available in this market.

However taking into account the age of the account, the offer itself and the fact they want to move this conversation to telegram I would not recommend to anyone to accept the offer.

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June 07, 2022, 08:35:22 PM
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I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.
People here in community are already knowledgeable about what OP is offering as we can see? none had given their support to what is this topic all about and Telegram? i have tons of problems about telegram over the years so I believe that it is not respectable to let OP handles our bets when we can do this on our own , and just try joining some groups that gives tip so we can bet in rightful team or events .
We know that telegram is full of scammers, so whenever someone mentions telegram as the only way to contact them it is very suspicious, after all we are in the first forum dedicated exclusively to bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general so I would think this is an ideal place in which we could carry conversations about it.

I could understand trying to move the discussion to telegram or another app if this was a cooking forum or something like that, but since this is not the case the offer of the OP becomes incredibly shady and it should not be trusted.

Yes, everything that comes from Telegram must be treated with extreme care, every day they write to me privately making thousands of offers to earn money, both for trading and joining in other types of events, and it clearly has no logic, because a person who knows how to win will hardly share that knowledge, because he would only focus on winning and that's it, and if he wants to share what he earns, he simply gives it away, either in charity or simply joining an NGO or contributing to the same so that it continues to grow, then there are simply things that do not make sense.

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