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[goaldigger]

Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately

Even though there's an update from the OP, the service she offers is totally a nuisance. Anyone that believes in the word of someone who's possibly gambling addicted and looking for someone else fund to fuel her ambition deserves a world best fool award.
Having said that, it's never a good idea to entrust a strange not to talk of sending the person your fund so she gamble with your fund on your behave

We can easily notice this as a scam attempt, so be careful on dealing with this kind of person especially those who are offering their services in exchange of something. Betting are easy and fun, you can do this on your own so I don’t see any big reason to look for someone to bet for you, if you can’t do gambling alone better not to try at all or else you’ll just miss the fun and just lose the money. Luckily, all the post here are negative about this service and I hope this is already enough for the newbies to get warned.

[livingfree]

So, we should send the money and wait for a payback from you?, You will walk away with the money. I can be sure of that. There is no reason to trust a newbie.

This.

When a newbie gets to ask a service, you will really have hard time being trusted by the community even if we're not going to be your clients. It's just all about the worry because it has happened many times before.

What about an escrow? would you agree about working with an escrow for this project?. We could send the money to an escrow, then you place the bet, if it wins you send the profit to the escrow and if it loses you get the money from the escrow. This would be a legit way to work this.

As a solution, having an escrow will help you OP to be trusted if you do agree to avail such service when someone demands that for you. For the list of it: Recommended bitcointalk escrow services

[Wakate]

Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

I can see you are very confident with this your offer but we understand to understand how  it really works.
Do you have a Telegram group where interested persons can join and get more info about what you do?
Do we have to send money to you before we can make money from your service?
I decided to ask this question because it looks like you are very confident about what you have written. Do you expect us to send you fund to play games for us in the first place? No body does that op.

[keyscore44]

Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately

Even though there's an update from the OP, the service she offers is totally a nuisance. Anyone that believes in the word of someone who's possibly gambling addicted and looking for someone else fund to fuel her ambition deserves a world best fool award.
Having said that, it's never a good idea to entrust a strange not to talk of sending the person your fund so she gamble with your fund on your behave

We can easily notice this as a scam attempt, so be careful on dealing with this kind of person especially those who are offering their services in exchange of something. Betting are easy and fun, you can do this on your own so I don’t see any big reason to look for someone to bet for you, if you can’t do gambling alone better not to try at all or else you’ll just miss the fun and just lose the money. Luckily, all the post here are negative about this service and I hope this is already enough for the newbies to get warned.

I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.

[davis196]

We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing.]

Yeah, I totally trust you.  Why would you even going to scam me? You are totally legit. I can see it from your newbie account and your high quality professional forum thread.
There are tons of sportsbook websites on the internet, some of them might allow countries, that are restricted on others. Why would people from restricted countries give money to someone betting for them? This is either a pretty stupid scam or a terribly wrong business idea.
Where's the guarantee that you won't run away with the coins? Where's the guarantee that you will send all the profits to your "customers"?

PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.

This is hilarious. Your so called "offer" looks like a joke, and you are looking for serious people? I can't stop laughing.

[bitterguy28]

Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

Telegram contact:
@romanzelovsky

PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.

sorry but so far for the 3 pages of this thread , it seems that there is no one who are interested in  taking your offer , does this mean you are truly legit ?  or people here are aware of what will come to their funds once trusted on you?
Hope that you will bring light to anyone and prove that there is no scam coming their way once they join your OFFER.

[mak013]

Really I dont understand what you want to say?? I can offer offline bets for players who bet lower league. (Balkan leagues, Russian, Ukrainen, Czech.) etc. Dont touch odd.

OP, you just registered on this forum today. How long have you been doing this "business"? How come you haven't already gained some reputation in the community?

It's interesting to note that only newbies with offers like these pop up.

I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.

[keyscore44]

I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.

If you read carefully the content of this thread and not only read the chitchat, You will fully understand the content of this service, He is offering a middle man bet for user that has a gambling restriction IRL. The only problem with his service is his account is just a newbie and he has no credentials that will assure the validity of his service as safe. If he will hire escrow to secure the funds of his customer then he will temporarily use his own funds to do the bet for his client. The client will be safe this way and also there's no need to look on his account as newbie since funds is escrowed.

But I doubt user will use this kind of service while they can use VPN to bypass casino restriction with same risk than this.

As far as bet tips are concerned, it is enough for the OP to create a thread and publish his tips in advance for a while. If his predictions are correct, there will certainly be users who will want to cooperate longer. Of course, escrow would be a safe solution, but not everyone like to hinder themselves. In my opinion, OP should show its achievements and results, and then there will certainly be people willing to take its services

[jostorres]

I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

I thought you need help in betting because this is what your title is saying but it turns out that you are the ones that will bet using our money but how can we trust a service like this? And the big question is why will someone avail this, I mean why can they just bet with their own? Are people nowadays too lazy enough that they can't place a single bet?

I don't think that can tax them a lot of time or effort. If this is about country restriction or any other else, sorry but if I am the bettor I won't still try this but I will just find a betting site that I can fully access even if they are not perfect but at least I am playing fairly and I am confident. Results won't matter at all with me, win or lose.

[Hamphser]

I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.

If you read carefully the content of this thread and not only read the chitchat, You will fully understand the content of this service, He is offering a middle man bet for user that has a gambling restriction IRL. The only problem with his service is his account is just a newbie and he has no credentials that will assure the validity of his service as safe. If he will hire escrow to secure the funds of his customer then he will temporarily use his own funds to do the bet for his client. The client will be safe this way and also there's no need to look on his account as newbie since funds is escrowed.

But I doubt user will use this kind of service while they can use VPN to bypass casino restriction with same risk than this.

As far as bet tips are concerned, it is enough for the OP to create a thread and publish his tips in advance for a while. If his predictions are correct, there will certainly be users who will want to cooperate longer. Of course, escrow would be a safe solution, but not everyone like to hinder themselves. In my opinion, OP should show its achievements and results, and then there will certainly be people willing to take its services

If there's no proof or something that could really show his statistics then the community arent that dumb on to sub on this one nor trust someone with their funds and let them be the ones who do make out bets considering that frauds and scams are really that rampant then trusting money or funds nowadays is less or unlikely to happen unless if he could able to build up something that will really be that an assurance
at least that its really not a bad idea on trusting him but in overall or general sense on who the heck would be giving their funds into someone if they could actually bet their own?
Analysis making wont really be that much of a difference considering you would only need to choose in between the two specially on sports betting.

[Sirait]

I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.

how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.

[uneng]

Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

Thanks to internet and cryptocurrency this kind of middleman service isn't necessary anymore. Gamblers have direct access to betting platforms with safety, legitimacy and can place bets in real time, checking the odds and every other informations by themselves. However, talking about lower leagues which aren't disponible in popular betting sites, I think it's not worth anyway, because these are the ones where fixed matches are prone to happen.with more frequency. Since gamblers are able to bet on main leagues, with assurance they aren't going to be scammed, why would they still go for the lower ones?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

For several reasons, I think this op should not be trusted -
1- He's a new member of this forum and without any form of reputation.
2- He said should contact him on telegram, we all know that telegram is the den of scammers.
3- He is offering a service that is totally illegal that if caught, could put him in prison and have his patronizers or customers loose their hard earned money.
4- He could be the scammer himself.
I personally would advice every one to stay away this for the above reasons, if your country does not permit you to gamble, look for other kind of games permitted to play and do not get yourself and your money involved on an illegal service.

[crzy]

I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.

how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.

This can’t be trusted, we know this kind of scheme and if this thread continues to be bump most probably newbies might carelessly contact OP and use his scam services. Betting is fun, and its more fun if you do it alone which put you on a good position and lesser risk to lose your money on a scammer. I don’t like this kind of services, better to gamble on your own.

[suzanne5223]

Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately

Even though there's an update from the OP, the service she offers is totally a nuisance. Anyone that believes in the word of someone who's possibly gambling addicted and looking for someone else fund to fuel her ambition deserves a world best fool award.
Having said that, it's never a good idea to entrust a strange not to talk of sending the person your fund so she gamble with your fund on your behave

We can easily notice this as a scam attempt, so be careful on dealing with this kind of person especially those who are offering their services in exchange of something. Betting are easy and fun, you can do this on your own so I don’t see any big reason to look for someone to bet for you, if you can’t do gambling alone better not to try at all or else you’ll just miss the fun and just lose the money. Luckily, all the post here are negative about this service and I hope this is already enough for the newbies to get warned.

I don't know what OP intentions are, but even if it is not an attempt to cheat and OP would really like to give betting tips, I find it hard to believe that someone who is able to fix matches in several countries around the world would post a public announcement on Bitcointalk.
I think this is someone who just doesn't want to risk their money, but only make a safe profit by risking someone else's money.

@goaldigger I am surprised either when I was the OP offer and I ask myself when did gambling before this difficult especially sports bet which is the easiest form of gambling though it requires a lot of game research and understanding both team strength.
@keyscore44 You don't know what OP's intentions are? When it totally a clear shady offering and the last time I checked people that provide free betting can do it openly and if someone I don't want to risk her own money and want to use someone else money such a person shouldn't be trusted

[smyslov]

The large-cap on the title and the two threads with the similar offers are already big red flags, you don't have to do that if you are legit the information is unclear he talked about deposits and making money together but there is no offer of protection for bettors it's useless using an escrow because OP can easily get away if the bettors win he just cash out and fled with the winning.

[bitterguy28]

The large-cap on the title and the two threads with the similar offers are already big red flags, you don't have to do that if you are legit the information is unclear he talked about deposits and making money together but there is no offer of protection for bettors it's useless using an escrow because OP can easily get away if the bettors win he just cash out and fled with the winning.

You got the right point here mate , Why need to Make the title Capitalized when it can easily put with rightful way? and also  if he is truly willing to provide good information then you must always be Online but OP is not completely reporting here if there is even one who contacted him or none till now.

For several reasons, I think this op should not be trusted -
1- He's a new member of this forum and without any form of reputation.
2- He said should contact him on telegram, we all know that telegram is the den of scammers.
3- He is offering a service that is totally illegal that if caught, could put him in prison and have his patronizers or customers loose their hard earned money.
4- He could be the scammer himself.
I personally would advice every one to stay away this for the above reasons, if your country does not permit you to gamble, look for other kind of games permitted to play and do not get yourself and your money involved on an illegal service.

supporting this and Indeed those are the cases OP must prove we are wrong here and if not? then never give attention to this Offering .

[savetheFORUM]

For several reasons, I think this op should not be trusted -
1- He's a new member of this forum and without any form of reputation.
2- He said should contact him on telegram, we all know that telegram is the den of scammers.
3- He is offering a service that is totally illegal that if caught, could put him in prison and have his patronizers or customers loose their hard earned money.
4- He could be the scammer himself.
I personally would advice every one to stay away this for the above reasons, if your country does not permit you to gamble, look for other kind of games permitted to play and do not get yourself and your money involved on an illegal service.

All the points you made are valid but sound very similar to each other since the biggest and main problem here is trust. OP has no proven history nor some kind of reputation of sending your money to anyone like that means you are begging to get scammed. Your point about illegal is also something to be wary of although I feel in such cases it would be him who would get intro trouble because he will place those bets. Still, you can be tracked and no reason to get in the mess anyways.

I get his point that some people want to bet big on events like a low-level soccer league but cannot and he can help them but without some kind of history, it's impossible and not advisable to send him money.

[P2PECS]

I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.

[peter0425]

I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.

People here in community are already knowledgeable about what OP is offering as we can see? none had given their support to what is this topic all about and Telegram? i have tons of problems about telegram over the years so I believe that it is not respectable to let OP handles our bets when we can do this on our own , and just try joining some groups that gives tip so we can bet in rightful team or events .