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[wxa7115]

I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.

People here in community are already knowledgeable about what OP is offering as we can see? none had given their support to what is this topic all about and Telegram? i have tons of problems about telegram over the years so I believe that it is not respectable to let OP handles our bets when we can do this on our own , and just try joining some groups that gives tip so we can bet in rightful team or events .

We know that telegram is full of scammers, so whenever someone mentions telegram as the only way to contact them it is very suspicious, after all we are in the first forum dedicated exclusively to bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general so I would think this is an ideal place in which we could carry conversations about it.

I could understand trying to move the discussion to telegram or another app if this was a cooking forum or something like that, but since this is not the case the offer of the OP becomes incredibly shady and it should not be trusted.

[mak013]

I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.

how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.

It is not a problem and a possible decision. If someone have a trusted account and wants to cheat, it is right decision not to use such account(i don`t like it but this is real world with scamers, cheaters, criminals).
But anyway - i don`t think that anyone need such kind of help, even if it is true(but i don`t believe it).

[noormcs5]

I think that the OP created an account just for this thread. It`s possible that he have trusted account but don`t want to connect it with such kind of deals. Also it is possible that he can give some guarantees and proves in the personal messages.
But anyway i don`t think that someone need such kind of help. If i want someone to make offline bets - it seems that i break the laws or ToS.

how can a member who has a trusted account (like your speculation) create a topic like this. just remember that not your coin, not your money, when you give your money to someone (to play gambling) then be prepared to lose it.

It is not a problem and a possible decision. If someone have a trusted account and wants to cheat, it is right decision not to use such account(i don`t like it but this is real world with scamers, cheaters, criminals).
But anyway - i don`t think that anyone need such kind of help, even if it is true(but i don`t believe it).

Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554

[mak013]

Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.

Yes, it is so. I just speaking about that it is possible that this newbie account is well-known user. But is doesn`t mean that we can trust such kind of deals.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554

He is even answering there. But i still don`t understand why he isn`t a scam. May be someone can believe after private talk with the OP but i like my money too much, so i willn`t even try to know any details.

[aioc]

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554

Even though both threads are getting bad feedback he still kept it open or does not know how to lock a thread, OP is still defending his thread and trying to make it legit but from all angles and by not giving us more detail on how will the transaction go, this thread lacks the trust to make the offer a good one.
It's just tempting people to make money without giving them a guarantee on how they will return the money when the bettor wins.

[arifteguhr]

He is even answering there. But i still don`t understand why he isn`t a scam. May be someone can believe after private talk with the OP but i like my money too much, so i willn`t even try to know any details.

Of course the offer is a scam, but many members don't care about scam offers because they have their own analysis for betting on tennis sports gambling, I believe we already know the purpose of the offer and maybe no one contacted him personally to be interested in the offer.

[decodx]

Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.

All the more reason to avoid accepting such offers from newbie accounts. This is, in fact, the most common form of fraud - attempting to con gullible victims with false promises of easy money.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554

Yeah. The good news is that no one here is so naive as to bite the bait. I hope. 

[virasisog]

Why would anyone use their high ranked account to post this scam looking post only to get red trust. Using a brand new account, reduces any risk of account loss and therefore scammers use this technique.

All the more reason to avoid accepting such offers from newbie accounts. This is, in fact, the most common form of fraud - attempting to con gullible victims with false promises of easy money.

Also getting no positive response from here,  OP opened the same thread in services section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400482.msg60240554#msg60240554

Yeah. The good news is that no one here is so naive as to bite the bait. I hope. 

People on this forum focus on a person's reputation. So if you're offering services, you better create a good impression first. People are now being skeptical and getting rid of scammers and fraudsters. The services that you offer are actually good but there's no assurance of safety and transparency.

[DoublerHunter]

People on this forum focus on a person's reputation. So if you're offering services, you better create a good impression first. People are now being skeptical and getting rid of scammers and fraudsters. The services that you offer are actually good but there's no assurance of safety and transparency.

^ Definitely right, it should be an established member here in the forum.
It is really hard to trust someone else on the internet because you don't know who are dealing with, scammers nowadays are very smart, they pretend anything they do as long they can lure money and be next to their victim.
However, I don't believe that OP had already had a victim here in the forum, all users that were here are very clever when it comes to investment or putting money and we know also how to verify scams, in short, lit is not easy to fool.

[mdzahed134]

How can we trust you? because of your account is created only 10 days ago, there are no way to trust a newbie user. If anyone pay you first then huge possibility to get scam by you. Even i will never go with such offers by any senior member, because i'm playing in some casino sites if i have an enough experienced.  

[decodx]

People on this forum focus on a person's reputation. So if you're offering services, you better create a good impression first. People are now being skeptical and getting rid of scammers and fraudsters. The services that you offer are actually good but there's no assurance of safety and transparency.

That's exactly what it should be. In a community like this, the reputation is the best asset a business or individual can have. Good reputation = open doors to opportunities. It seems that some people like to ignore this and create fake accounts. That's sad and honestly, doesn't make a lot of sense, even if it's not for malicious reasons.

[mak013]

He is even answering there. But i still don`t understand why he isn`t a scam. May be someone can believe after private talk with the OP but i like my money too much, so i willn`t even try to know any details.

Of course the offer is a scam, but many members don't care about scam offers because they have their own analysis for betting on tennis sports gambling, I believe we already know the purpose of the offer and maybe no one contacted him personally to be interested in the offer.

The best way is always to make your own research when you are ready to spend your money. Only in this way you can be sure that it was your decision and your responsibility for win or lose.
I like to talk with cheaters sometimes, when i have a free time - just to hear about new ways of cheating. May be someone talked with him and can share the results with us.

[Desmong]

Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately --forum users know these old tricks.
There is no such kind of service and I have been here for how many years, and I witnessed a lot of scams, it is the same to them, to be honest.
You cant fool forum members OP.

I think op is a novice scammer that doesn't know much about what offer he want to render. At least if he think is product is good and genuine, he should have given us a reply rather than  staying mute or reading everything we are commenting here and staying mute. This offer is the most weak and unserious betting I have ever seen. Why will I give someone money to bet for me when I have no idea on how the person looks like and what could happen toy fund in the next minutes.

[maydna]

Well, there is no update --it means a scam thread, fortunately --forum users know these old tricks.
There is no such kind of service and I have been here for how many years, and I witnessed a lot of scams, it is the same to them, to be honest.
You cant fool forum members OP.

I think op is a novice scammer that doesn't know much about what offer he want to render. At least if he think is product is good and genuine, he should have given us a reply rather than  staying mute or reading everything we are commenting here and staying mute. This offer is the most weak and unserious betting I have ever seen. Why will I give someone money to bet for me when I have no idea on how the person looks like and what could happen toy fund in the next minutes.

@OP thought that having him create a thread here and leaving it like that would give him a chance to get a lot of subscribers. That's not the way to do it because if he wants to get customers, he has to actively manage his thread and provide answers if someone asks about his service. We also don't know when @OP will come back to his thread and answer our questions and make us doubt his service.

[n0ne]

Who will be interested on these offers when we've got number of gambling platforms that gives access to different games as well as all the leagues played around the globe. In the past people used such services through bookies, now everything have changed and people want everything to be enjoyed themselves and not through someone else. OP thinks that if he mention serious people only contact me, then everyone thinks this to be a legitimate service.

[virasog]

Who will be interested on these offers when we've got number of gambling platforms that gives access to different games as well as all the leagues played around the globe. In the past people used such services through bookies, now everything have changed and people want everything to be enjoyed themselves and not through someone else. OP thinks that if he mention serious people only contact me, then everyone thinks this to be a legitimate service.

Even though many online betting sites allow us to bet directly on matches through cryptocurrencies but the role of bookies is not completely eliminated. There are many people who still use the services of bookies to place bets. Tradition betting through bookies is still popular in many parts of the world.
However, i feel no confidence in trusting a newbie OP offering the betting help.

[Gianluca95]

Hi, I can offer you betting for you, offline or online you are on right place. If you need help with stake on lower league, I can help you. If you need stake on ITF tennis high stake, contact me. We have contact for betting from all over the world. We can bet for you, we dont touch odd nothing. I would only ask serious buyers to call Telegram. Also, if you have interesting suggestions regarding the payment on your part, you can also contact us. Good contacts are never enough. We have stakers in locals in all world. We can help you with Balkan and all Russian, Belarus, Ukrainen etc. leagues.

Telegram contact:
@romanzelovsky

PS: Please only serious contacts, who know what they are doing.
Also you can write contact, we can contact you.

This absolutely violate the TOS of every casino. And I guess that you should deserve a negative feedback. This service shouldn't be published on this section, and I invite moderators to remove this thread in way to avoid

users that asks to this sir this kind of service.

Stay absolutely away from this user !

[wxa7115]

Who will be interested on these offers when we've got number of gambling platforms that gives access to different games as well as all the leagues played around the globe. In the past people used such services through bookies, now everything have changed and people want everything to be enjoyed themselves and not through someone else. OP thinks that if he mention serious people only contact me, then everyone thinks this to be a legitimate service.

I think the OP tried to give the impression that someone joining him could actually become a profitable gambler but without saying it outright, or at least that is the way I read the content of the OP, as otherwise the offer does not make sense at all because we can gamble in almost any event that we may want thanks to the different casinos we have available in this market.

However taking into account the age of the account, the offer itself and the fact they want to move this conversation to telegram I would not recommend to anyone to accept the offer.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I agree with the majority of opinions. These types of "offers" do not usually end well. I hope no one will ever think of trying what he offers. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along saying that they have tried his system and made a lot of money because of it.

Keep your eyes open guys, scam attempts in this world are very common, and scammers are not stupid, they present themselves to you as good people who are going to help you make money.

People here in community are already knowledgeable about what OP is offering as we can see? none had given their support to what is this topic all about and Telegram? i have tons of problems about telegram over the years so I believe that it is not respectable to let OP handles our bets when we can do this on our own , and just try joining some groups that gives tip so we can bet in rightful team or events .

We know that telegram is full of scammers, so whenever someone mentions telegram as the only way to contact them it is very suspicious, after all we are in the first forum dedicated exclusively to bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general so I would think this is an ideal place in which we could carry conversations about it.

I could understand trying to move the discussion to telegram or another app if this was a cooking forum or something like that, but since this is not the case the offer of the OP becomes incredibly shady and it should not be trusted.

Yes, everything that comes from Telegram must be treated with extreme care, every day they write to me privately making thousands of offers to earn money, both for trading and joining in other types of events, and it clearly has no logic, because a person who knows how to win will hardly share that knowledge, because he would only focus on winning and that's it, and if he wants to share what he earns, he simply gives it away, either in charity or simply joining an NGO or contributing to the same so that it continues to grow, then there are simply things that do not make sense.