what countries have the best / most privacy fiendly bitcoin laws?

[Nrcewker]

It shouldn't be so hard to anonymously buy bitcoin.

That’s why use P2P Exchanges to buy Bitcoins, in order to remain complete anonymous.
I guess almost all the exchanges in all countries asks for KYC in order to buy Bitcoins.
Maybe there are few countries, but to be honest I don’t know about them.
Moreover the reason for which the government is not legalising Bitcoins in many countries is that due to the decentralised nature of Bitcoins.
So when Bitcoins will be governed by the government, then only they will make it legalised and will impose tax and laws on it.
But I guess this won’t happen ever, and people will secretly do the task with Bitcoins as they are doing right now.

[Anonohmon]

also what true dex's are there?

Bisq. No KYC, no accounts, no centralized website. Download the open source software, run it over Tor (which it does automatically), connect directly to other traders peer to peer, set up a trade using your fiat method of choice. Takes a little bit of getting used it, but it is easily the best way to buy and sell bitcoin at the moment without having centralized third parties spying on you and exercising complete control over your money.

what would happen if an exchange opened in a super crypto friendly nation decided to ignore the US demanding it have KYC?

Then they would very quickly be banned from operating within the US or serving US citizens.

Does Bisq have a good selection of alt coin trading?

And okay, I can see how they could enforce banning the from operating in the US. But.. how could they force them not to serve US citizens? I dont get that part. Like Krakken apparently doesn't serve US citizens but why does it matter if they do or dont if they're not even operating in the US?

[o_e_l_e_o]

Does Bisq have a good selection of alt coin trading?

No. The majority of the volume is Bitcoin and Monero. There are a handful of other alts on there, but I've never used them and the volume is low. If you are looking to trade Bitcoin for alts though, then this is easily done through a number of instant non-KYC swap services. I don't care for alts though, so I'm not the person to recommend a good one.

Like Krakken apparently doesn't serve US citizens but why does it matter if they do or dont if they're not even operating in the US?

The US has plenty of influence in other countries too. If an exchange ends up on some kind of US blacklist or banned in the US for flaunting their rules, even if they don't operate in the US, then you can guarantee their life will be significantly harder across most other Western nations. For most exchanges, it isn't worth the trade off.

[KingsDen]

most exchanges are not restricted to traders in only a particular country, and many countries are tightening their rule on cryptocurrency mainly because of money laundering and the benefit of tax which enforce KYC. One can barely see exchanges with no KYC, although some may allow trade and prevent withdrawal above certain amount, Decentralized exchange is a provision for those not willing to use KYC with its restrictions as well

To the government, exchanges are the cryptocurrency version of banks. While banks are the offline version. What they expect from banks is what they expect from exchanges. How they control and manipulate the data in the Custody of banks is what they wish to do with exchanges. They government is always unwilling go give express liberty to the exchanges, it could not also be because of their gainful desire. It could be to regulate the illicit movement of money within and outside the country. Let's not forget that the government desire is to control and nothing but to control.

[Anonohmon]

Does Bisq have a good selection of alt coin trading?

No. The majority of the volume is Bitcoin and Monero. There are a handful of other alts on there, but I've never used them and the volume is low. If you are looking to trade Bitcoin for alts though, then this is easily done through a number of instant non-KYC swap services. I don't care for alts though, so I'm not the person to recommend a good one.

Like Krakken apparently doesn't serve US citizens but why does it matter if they do or dont if they're not even operating in the US?

The US has plenty of influence in other countries too. If an exchange ends up on some kind of US blacklist or banned in the US for flaunting their rules, even if they don't operate in the US, then you can guarantee their life will be significantly harder across most other Western nations. For most exchanges, it isn't worth the trade off.

Oh well that's awesome to hear. I need alt trading with XMR in particular lol. I'm really trying to figure out the cheapest way to trade BTC to XMR and vice versa. Atomic swap takes a bit out percentage. Last time I used it, 100 bucks of bitcoin took out 10 or more dollars worth of crypto so I was left with about maybe 80 something to 90 dollars of xmr. There is another private trading app called the incognito wallet but it's only for very small amounts, anything larger than a couple hundred dollars is going to kill you in trading fees which are very misleading. but for less than a few hundred dollars its only a few bucks per trade. But that adds up if you're sending in btc to get xmr, to send somewhere just to convert it back it's nearly the same amount taken using the atomic swaps. And most non KYC exchanges dont support XMR trading.

But yeah thanks, I'm gonna download it and hopefully the fees will be in the less than a dollar range per swap/trade. All I really want is to easily buy anonymous bitcoin. Damned I really miss not seeing the value in buying it back when I first heard of it. I was like an NPC back then mentally speaking.

Wonder if anyone could open up a purely anonymous crypto exchange like ran on the tor network or something? Idk.

[LoyceMobile]

Wonder if anyone could open up a purely anonymous crypto exchange like ran on the tor network or something? Idk.

The big problem is trusting an anonymous site, and they'd need to exchange it by themselves, which won't work on other exchangers that require KYC.
Small amounts work well on instant exchangers, but I wouldn't trust them with bigger amounts. You can of course split it into smaller chunks.
Bitcoin <> Monero is much easier than to or from fiat. BestChange has many options, but also check CoinPlaza for good rates on small amounts. Update: they lowered the maximum without KYC to €50 per month.

[Desmong]

Which countries dont ask for KYC for their citizens buying bitcoin on exchanges.

and how come no exchanges have set up operations in those nations and gave a middle finger to the US and EU when asked to collect KYC on their exchanges?

It shouldn't be so hard to anonymously buy bitcoin.

Buying Bitcoin should not be that hard and it's not necessary to buy Bitcoin on an exchange. We have third parties on this forum which we can buy bitcoin from at good rate without having to go through the stress from exchanges that will allow us to drop our identity. There are different exchanges that do not request KYC which we can use to buy our choice of Bitcoin although the limit to buy can be reduced.

[AmoreJaz]

It shouldn't be so hard to anonymously buy bitcoin.

That’s why use P2P Exchanges to buy Bitcoins, in order to remain complete anonymous.
I guess almost all the exchanges in all countries asks for KYC in order to buy Bitcoins.
Maybe there are few countries, but to be honest I don’t know about them.
Moreover the reason for which the government is not legalising Bitcoins in many countries is that due to the decentralised nature of Bitcoins.
So when Bitcoins will be governed by the government, then only they will make it legalised and will impose tax and laws on it.
But I guess this won’t happen ever, and people will secretly do the task with Bitcoins as they are doing right now.

most local exchanges are governed by their respective Central Bank. so expect that they will ask kyc from their clients. if you find one which is not requiring kyc, then doubt their legitimacy. if you want to buy btc anonymously, there are already known p2p platforms as mentioned by other users above. but if you really go into your local crypto exchange, then i doubt if you will find one which doesn't require your credentials.
even if the country is a crypto-friendly one, they will more then likely require their crypto businesses to be legally registered and so with this kyc requirement from its customers

[KennyR]

No country allows you to have privacy free buying of bitcoin. Because, with most of the P2P buying we make the transaction with a card or through any of the payment medium which is connected to the bank account. It is the users self ability to make privacy free purchase of bitcoin. In my view it is possible to buy bitcoin through our forum in exchange for other altcoins, exchange for gift cards and so on. This can be found on our currency exchange section and there are people who are making use of it with the help of an escrow.

[TelolettOm]

Buying Bitcoin should not be that hard and it's not necessary to buy Bitcoin on an exchange. We have third parties on this forum which we can buy bitcoin from at good rate without having to go through the stress from exchanges that will allow us to drop our identity.

Third parties on the forum? What do you mean? Buying BTC from person to person?
I think we don't need third parties to buy BTC. If you don't want to drop your KYC, you can choose DEX (decentralized exchange). There is no need for KYC on DEX, you can buy BTC directly from your own wallets. KYC is only applied for CEX (centralized exchange), it is the requirement given by the governments, so every CEX must obey the regulation. So, don't be confused about buying BTC on exchanges, there is two types of exchanges, DEX and CEX. Choose which one you like, dude.

[sheenshane]

Which countries dont ask for KYC for their citizens buying bitcoin on exchanges.

Though Bitcoin is legal or banned, citizens can still use or purchase Bitcoin through decentralized exchange platforms.  Bitcoin has a decentralized nature and no one will stop using it, KYC was prominent on the centralized exchange, they follow each country's jurisdictions and if you don't use them, you'll never implement that KYC stuff.

Those countries that announced Bitcoin become legal tender will be a good place for Bitcoin but in privacy, factors are still undecided for them to adopt.

[nullama]

I would say Switzerland is one of the most privacy friendly countries out there.

You can buy Bitcoin in Switzerland at any train station, and also at many shops around the country.

Usually the maximum you can buy at a time is CHF 500.

Here's more information about it: https://www.sbb.ch/en/station-services/at-the-station/services-from-the-ticket-machine/bitcoin.html

[yazher]

When it comes to local exchanges, I don't know which one will not oblige you to pass your KYC because one of the requirements in order for you to withdraw or convert it to fiat is your identity they need to know your source of income may be due to some of the cases where they used bitcoins as propaganda for their evil scheme which their evolved version of Ponzi scheme which many of my fellow countrymen has fallen into. Back then they cannot trace the stolen money due to lack of information but now they seem to like doing their best to protect everyone but the downside is always there the identity verifications.

[avikz]

Which countries dont ask for KYC for their citizens buying bitcoin on exchanges.

and how come no exchanges have set up operations in those nations and gave a middle finger to the US and EU when asked to collect KYC on their exchanges?

It shouldn't be so hard to anonymously buy bitcoin.

There are couple of countries where crypto exchanges can leverage their privacy friendly laws, like Monaco, Panama, Curacao etc. You will see that majority of the crypto gambling companies are registered in Curacao for such friendly laws.

But I am not sure if any known crypto exchanges have started operating from these countries or not. If you want to buy bitcoin without revealing your identity, decentralized exchanges are here. You can use various swap providers or even some wallets come with such facilities where you don't need to provide kyc to buy bitcoins. A lot of options are already available.

[Leviathan.007]

Among all the countries I know none of them will allow their citizens to exchange or trade bitcoin without passing the KYC, in the words, doing the KYC and passing the required steps to provide your personal information is always necessary for the governments whenever you want to deal with their fiat currency. Because they in any country, they do have the right to know who is buying bitcoin and each person owns how much money, they claim the reason is to prevent crimes and money laundering.

[Kakmakr]

The thing is, every time some centralized service touch Fiat currencies, it has to adhere to KYC/AML regulations. You can trade person to person on this forum via trusted Escrow services or you can find Bitcoin buyers & sellers locally, if you attend your local Bitcoin meetups. (Build a relationship with the people and start doing small trades)

The governments have been closing the loopholes on most P2P platforms ...and even Localbitcoins.com https://localbitcoins.com/guides/verification-guide have account verification now.    

https://docs.bisq.network/getting-started.html    Enjoy!

[bakasabo]

From times when ICOs were popular, I remember that a lot of projects were registered in Estonia or claimed they have an office there. I am not 100% sure that Estonia is the best, but as a part of EU, crypto projects can be proud and claim that they are European crypto project, even though whole team is spread all around the world. Another reason might be the cost of company registration in Estonia. If it is cheap to register there, the laws could be also friendly enough.

[Lucius]

From times when ICOs were popular, I remember that a lot of projects were registered in Estonia or claimed they have an office there.

Estonia started to change its policy towards crypto business back there sometime in 2019, and this continues today in a direction that has become far more restrictive and demanding for any company that wants to do business in that country. The current geopolitical situation is not helping that country since it borders Russia, and all this uncertainty is not good for business.

Small but tech-mighty Estonia was one of Europe’s leading destinations for cryptocurrency companies.
But the Baltic nation is now getting tough on how it regulates its digital assets and will bring in new rules this month, which some say could deter Estonia’s thriving start-up scene.

Estonia’s new regulations mark a sharp U-turn for a country that has a population of just 1.3 million yet last year was home to more than half the world’s registered virtual-asset service providers (VASPs) last year.
The new rules, which begin on June 15, mean Estonian crypto companies will need to meet new transparency requirements; they can no longer have anonymous accounts and they must have a capital of at least €250,000

[Doan9269]

Which countries dont ask for KYC for their citizens buying bitcoin on exchanges.

El-Savador and Central African Republic, this are the countries i can say of because they have adopted bitcoin as a legal tender, as for other countries that does not ban cryptocurrency payments and transactions, we cannot be sure if they require data privacy from centralized exchanges or not.

and how come no exchanges have set up operations in those nations and gave a middle finger to the US and EU when asked to collect KYC on their exchanges?

this might be easier said than done because centralized exchanges can be identified eith thier location and registration details and they are not anonymous unlike decentralized exchanges,

It shouldn't be so hard to anonymously buy bitcoin.

yes but when only dealing with decentralize exchanges or you run your full node on the blockchain for maximum privacy and security to be achieved.

[Ale88]

Which countries dont ask for KYC for their citizens buying bitcoin on exchanges.

It's not about the countries, it's about the exchanges, they don't want to get in troubles, especially nowadays that more and more people buy bitcoins and cryptos. I think Bitfinex anyway doesn't require the KYC if you only deposit and withdraw cryptos, of course if you have to do something involving fiat then you need to go through the KYC process.