Food crisis coming? What's wrong about it? It could be good

[countryfree]

It's not like telling poor countries they should starve to death, it's telling them they are going to starve to death if they don't change!

That's it. Some years ago, I knew a girl who got pregnant while being a student. That was in a rich western Europe country, welfare services could have done a lot, but she chose to have an abortion, and it was terrible to her, but she just felt unable to raise a child in the small room she was living, with her modest income. In Africa, there are women with no income at all having 5 or 7 kids. That's just irresponsible.

What's shameful is that this food crisis doesn't come from nature. There's one single person fully responsible for it, and that's Putin.

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[Sir Legend]

The large number of agricultural land that has turned into settlements and industries makes food more expensive, in my country more than 30% of agricultural land has changed function and now many imports of food, fruit and vegetable needs, of course this is a complicated problem that must be addressed immediately because now food has higher economic value.

[Mometaskers]

At least you are frank about where you stand in the issue about "overpopulation". While I'm ambivalent about it, it seems that this is the natural human state. Humans tend to instinctively have more kids when quality of life is poor so that some at least would make it to adulthood. Not to mention in mostly agricultural societies in the countryside, those children are extra farm hands. Families that choose to have less kids miss out on the free labor and are put at a disadvantage.

If there's one good thing that may come out of these conflicts, it's that people would be reminded that you can't rely on food imports.

[boris singer]

The large number of agricultural land that has turned into settlements and industries makes food more expensive, in my country more than 30% of agricultural land has changed function and now many imports of food, fruit and vegetable needs, of course this is a complicated problem that must be addressed immediately because now food has higher economic value.

this is almost the same as the conditions in the country or area that I live in now.
a lot of land that used to be used for agriculture is now being converted into skyscraper buildings and some shops or factories there which make this even more difficult for the farmers.
Previously, in the area where I live, the majority of us were farmers, but now due to a large-scale conversion, some people have swerved to adjust to the current situation and the farmers in my area can now be counted on the fingers.

[Gozie51]

We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit.

To this effect there can be control over it from government. But by creation it has been given to man to occupy and enjoy the fruits in it. The challenge is that despite population, bad leadership is the problem for Africa. Lack of proper planning is causing some of the food shortages. Some buildings are erected on land there are designated for agricultural purposes and by this it amounts to imbalance in planting processes. There is suppose to be rotational planting where some land are left for a certain time to regain nutrients but they are continually planted on because there are no adequate space. This will lead to low production of crops.

[naira]

Although hearing it is quite gruesome, I hope it doesn't happen in any country. I really don't want it. All have the right to live in prosperity in the provision of food sources. I don't know if we have to start from scratch, but what is certain will return to state policies that prioritize local economic growth and prioritize export production carried out by the community (not from immigrants by looting).

The reason is, currently there are not a few countries with social inequality, narrowing of land, and eviction of houses making it increasingly difficult for people to make a living.

[aoluain]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

Depends. If you can afford the expensive food prices, then it makes no difference for you probably. For the rest of the people, it will be a nightmare. One thing is for sure, the world is way too crowded. If the expensive food prices will solve this problem, so be it. If it is going to be the vaccines, I am OK with that too. Whatever it takes to fix the world. Otherwise rich or poor, we are all going to go insane. We simply don't need any more people. There isn't enough resources.

Yea whatever about being able to pay inflated prices for food its
another thing actually finding the food in the first place. A food
crisis doesnt necessarily mean higher prices it can also be shortages.

The worst hit will indeed be the poorer countries who rely on
food importation. Its crazy how we have become accustomed to
heading to the supermarket and nowing that what we want will
be there every time. If the supply chains are interrupted there is
actually only 3 days worth of food in the average supermarket,
after that what happens?

@Hydrogen has kind of touched on sopmething which is very important
and that is that humans have lost touch with mother Earth, the
majority of people dont realise where their food comes from and what
it contains. Personally I think its wrong that the world in general
has to be supplied with grain by a hand full of countries and this is
the price we pay for it IMO.

[salad daging]

The food crisis, of course, is what I'm worried about starting from Covid-19 and now the effect of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, of course at least this has a big influence on the food price crisis which will rise in the future, in my country the price of cooking oil has almost doubled fold, but here only the government has the right to be responsible for all of this, they must determine the welfare of their people, of course, from this food crisis, more will suffer.

I read this article about the UN warning of a global food crisis.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/23/1100592132/united-nations-food-shortages

[Gyfts]

First world countries won't experience a legitimate crisis. I consider a legitimate food crisis to be famine and starvation. Wealthy countries can hoard food imports or afford to pay a premium price for food exports. They might also limit some of their own food exports to stock up. The poorer countries won't be able to afford the premium price tag on food, and those are the countries that will suffer from extreme famine.

It's unfortunate that in a world where many in the developed world are obese or overweight that people can go without food and starve to death, but these are issues with logistics more than actually having a shortage of food.

[dunfida]

First world countries won't experience a legitimate crisis. I consider a legitimate food crisis to be famine and starvation. Wealthy countries can hoard food imports or afford to pay a premium price for food exports. They might also limit some of their own food exports to stock up. The poorer countries won't be able to afford the premium price tag on food, and those are the countries that will suffer from extreme famine.

It's unfortunate that in a world where many in the developed world are obese or overweight that people can go without food and starve to death, but these are issues with logistics more than actually having a shortage of food.

Its the sad fact or reality on which these things cant really be felt for those people who are wealthy nor able to reside or live on a first world country which means or basically talks about those who are still developed

or not really good in terms of economic state will surely be having those big effects or something that could be felt.Any crisis not only limited to Food problem would really impose those kind of worrisome for people around.

But its true that our fellow wealthy people or community wont really be bothering up theirselves since they are financially capable on hoarding everything.

[uneng]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

20%, 30% is nothing... Here the cheapest cooking oil rised 200% since the beginning of the pandemic.

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

You say it now, but after increasing your budget for food in a third, there won't be limits. After the first third, there will be other, and another... That is inflation hiting you really hard. And don't think developed countries are safe from this menace. The world has changed. Developed countries' leaders are adopting the same measures third world countries are used to. Just look the example of USA raising interest rates artificially. Typical banana's republic economical policy.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

Initially it's a problem, but every solutions come from an initial problem, so there might be a positive side on it, because it can be the starting point for world authorities pay attention to the fact population is growing too fast, while the resources disponible in the world continue the same.

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

So far governments have been irresponsible, populist and demagogic. They don't care about it. If someone ventures making such proposal, he is going to be labelled with the most terrible existing adjectives. It must be someone of great courage and reason to address this delicate subject with success.

[wiss19]

Why do you think it was a solution? Because you think that the population is now too much and you want this to decrease? I think that was selfish if you want someone to suffer and die just because you think this world can become a better place if the population is much lesser.

Actually it can still become better. The problem for me is not the population but it is how people move. If they won't become lazy and work hard, and maybe study harder, they won't became poor and they can achieve that fantasy world that you are saying. For now this is a problem for someone that doesn't have a money but every problem has a solution. It's only about planning and budgeting.

[pooya87]

There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?
That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

You are looking at the situation at a very short period and with a very selfish view either because your financial situation is way above average or you are too young and have never faced the real world.

A large number of people in developed countries are living hand to mouth, rising prices even a little bit puts a lot of pressure on them. On top of that the food crisis is not coming alone, it is accompanied by energy crisis and other crisis. Some of it is causing businesses and industries to shut down. Imagine someone in middle class who loses their job too, now they don't even have an income to pay previous food prices let alone the increased ones.
For example 90% of Americans (a supposedly developed country) are considered middle to lower class.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?
Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

That's racist.

[Findingnemo]

If you think having money is enough to deal when the worse food crisis hits your country then I can say no and also give an example for this. Anyone read what is actually happening in Srilanka for the past few months where there is shortage for everything due to the National debt followed by hyperinflation so even people who have enough cash in their had to pay hundred dollar for basic grocery needed for an adult still there is no thing available there.

[TopTort777]

Sorry, but every time when visit stores and see shelves full with food, employees running there and there to replenish shelves supplies, see pallets with food behind stock doors, I cant understand what is this "food crisis" everyone is talking about. Some might think that I am stupid, naive, too young and never saw real life and etc, but I dont see starving people around me. What we complaint about lately? Wheat? Can we eat other food instead? Or wheat is a direct or indirect ingredient of every other food? I think no.

[virasisog]

Food crisis isn't just about being unable to buy food because of our financial status. It's actually a total lack of food supply which could affect both rich and poor people. Money couldn't work if that happens but in my own opinion, where's still far from that. As long as farmers and food suppliers are continuously providing food on the market, there wouldn't be a food crisis and I hope that no country would experience such a crisis.

[Oasisman]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

Perfectly fine for you, though that really sounds so selfish, but don't get comfortable with the rising prices of food in the market coz it will definitely have chain effects. Do you personally think a food crisis won't cause any harm against you and your family?
What If crime rate increases as people became desperate, because unlike you they're heavily affected by the crisis?
Do you think it's safer for you and your family than today if that happens?


I don't see any good about food crisis or any crisis that the world face.

[laredo7mm]

So you are indirectly saying that the people from the poor countries should starve to death?

You should understand that each and every government does hold a responsibility to provide for the people that they have been elected by. Most of the developed countries came into position because of these poor countries that they looted in the past thus for them to provide humanitarian support is no big deal.

The crisis is coming and some are better prepared than the others but that does not mean that you can ignore the plight of the other side, decreasing the population inevitably is important but how we can do is by family planning, education, not natural selection.

His post shows the mentality of western people towards the rest of the world. He forgets that their so-called developed country economy is dependent on the cheap labor of that African and Asian countries. Without those populations, their economy will not survive. In this world, we all depended on each other at some point. Look at the Russia Ukraine war and how the whole world is suffering because of them.

Western countries are just interested about increase and holding their influence over the rest of the world. They do little care about family planning and education. They are more interested in spending millions of dollars to supply weapons to those countries rather than spending those for some actual development.

[justdimin]

Sorry, but every time when visit stores and see shelves full with food, employees running there and there to replenish shelves supplies, see pallets with food behind stock doors, I cant understand what is this "food crisis" everyone is talking about. Some might think that I am stupid, naive, too young and never saw real life and etc, but I dont see starving people around me. What we complaint about lately? Wheat? Can we eat other food instead? Or wheat is a direct or indirect ingredient of every other food? I think no.

It is not actually "shortage" of food, in the sense that we will not be able to find food. Some things would never really dry out, it will always be replenished. However, it is the prices that will be impacted, if there was 150 and sold 100 and 50 gone to waste, now there are 100 and will sell 100 and the prices will be impacted because of this.

This is why I honestly believe that the food will never be gone, or at least not fully gone, but the prices are already impacted. Just in my nation the food prices are up 40%+ and that alone itself is a big problem, don't get me started on oil and energy, that is gone bonkers and doing horribly as well.

[Silberman]

Sorry, but every time when visit stores and see shelves full with food, employees running there and there to replenish shelves supplies, see pallets with food behind stock doors, I cant understand what is this "food crisis" everyone is talking about. Some might think that I am stupid, naive, too young and never saw real life and etc, but I dont see starving people around me. What we complaint about lately? Wheat? Can we eat other food instead? Or wheat is a direct or indirect ingredient of every other food? I think no.

It is true there is still plenty of food but due to the war at Ukraine the amount of food being produced is going down, even if the amount of food produced went down only a 5% the price will not increase 5%, as we all need to eat and those countries which have more money will be able to pay a higher price while the others will not be able to buy enough food, this will create zones around the world in which there will be a serious issue with the supply and prices will skyrocket there, if you are lucky then at most you will see a light increase in the price where you live, but if you happen to live in one of the countries that was dependent on Ukraine's wheat supply then things could get ugly and fast.