Food crisis coming? What's wrong about it? It could be good

[alterra57]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

Food crisis isn't when prices go up, it's when there's no food.

[jostorres]

I think the problem because of the food crisis is that more and more land has been turned into settlements and the government only focuses on industry and never cares about farmers, as happened in my country where the government removed subsidies for fertilizers and seed development so that crop yields continued to decline and now become an importer of foodstuffs such as soybeans, rice and so on.

This is why we are going to live with the urban agriculture stuff, or the vertical farming very soon. There is a company building a 25 million dollar warehouse for plants, they are using the most extreme techs available, and they are saying that they will make more than 700k profit per year with the current prices, and the prices could still climb up, plus they are very close to center in UK, so they could sell it all very quickly without even having too much transportation costs. That company already go an offer to be purchased, not just for that plant, but for the idea and the expertise they had. So you know how vertical we will go in the future.

[Viscore]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

  You're lucky if you are born with a golden spoon since you don't have to worry about the increasing prices of basic commodities but for most of us here, this food price increase is killing us more. This increasing high inflation won't do any good but continue to trigger our finances and will left us struggling to earn because of high prices of goods all over the world. Hopefully, the government can do something about this or even give more assistance to the poor families.

[uneng]

The poorest people on earth make the most babies. Watch the movie "Idiocracy" if you haven't yet. That movie explains this perfectly.

Somebody should do something about it but I feel like it is already too late... What can we do anyway? Erase like 5+ billion people? That would be very good tbh but I don't see it happening. The most intelligent human being on earth, Bill Gates has been doing researches on the subject but he couldn't solve it neither.

If Gates can't fix it, nobody can. Pray for Gates.

A measure to slow down population growth depends on public policies and campaigns to educate people on how they are being prejudiced for having a desorganized household core, not only for themselves as parents, but also for the children who are born there. It just doesn't happen because politicians profit from this miserable lifestyle. More children from uneducated families mean abundant income of easy votes from individuals who question nothing, only ask for food and basic goods, in an eternal cycle of repetition and precariousness.

At same time, everyone else who see this and don't talk openly are in a confort zone which doesn't let them talk freely about this issue, since they are going to be excluded from society and be considered ruthless, heartless, merciless, soulless and so on...

About Bill Gates being all this, I'm not so sure...

[South Park]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

Definitely, it's a problem for most of us. And it's a lot harder because not only the food prices have been increasing, even for gas or petrol its price moves up too fast. Most of our basic necessities are no longer cheap anymore so it does not only affect the poor ones, but even the higher class in the society.  It might be a lot better if also the minimum wage salary has increased, but i don't see its happening now. We are facing a lot of crisis right now, and i don't think this high inflation will be gone in just a year or two, or it could be staying for good maybe.

Unfortunately we are living through a period in which several crisis are happening at the same time, we had the pandemic, a war, high inflation and now it seems we have a shortage of food as well, the economy is not really designed to withstand so many crises at the same time, and it does not seem as if the governments will ever get this under control, so it is necessary that we find ways to protect ourselves at least from some of the effects those crises can bring, and while bitcoin will be useful, it seems we will need even more than bitcoin to overcome all the problems we will face in the future.

[doomloop]

In our country, I think we're far from the food crisis. The supply of primary goods here is continuous and I couldn't see any problem with it so far. If it will be a global crisis, I believe that countries will still unite to support each other just like what happened before. Our country experienced famine years ago and lots of countries have provided us with food supplies. I'm sure that the same thing would happen in the future.

Really? That's great. That just shows that your country now knows what to do to avoid the problem in case it occurs again and thanks to the concerned countries that helped your country before. Other than other countries, your country can also try to help countries that are in need of help in regards to food crisis.

There is nothing wrong about food crisis but it was just another type of crisis which is normal to occur on a country especially if that country is not prepared. What is only wrong is if people or the government of a country will just depend on the help of others without trying their best on how to help their selves survive in this difficult situation.

[Rikafip]

If it will be a global crisis, I believe that countries will still unite to support each other just like what happened before. Our country experienced famine years ago and lots of countries have provided us with food supplies. I'm sure that the same thing would happen in the future.

On the contrary. If it comes to a global food shortage, countries will be less willing to help other countries simply because "global" food shortage means that whole world is affected by it  and not only a specific region like it usually is. With that being said, I don't expect a global food crisis. Sure, some regions will be affected for sure ( mainly the poorer ones, as always) but I don't expect more developed parts of the worlds to have big issues.

[Pujangga]

Economic crises and food crises have occurred in many countries, poor countries are experiencing difficulties that do not seem to end, world policies that only accept a few currencies such as the USD or EURO make it difficult for poor countries to meet and rely on debt, and this is a worrying thing in the future.

[swogerino]

If it will be a global crisis, I believe that countries will still unite to support each other just like what happened before. Our country experienced famine years ago and lots of countries have provided us with food supplies. I'm sure that the same thing would happen in the future.

On the contrary. If it comes to a global food shortage, countries will be less willing to help other countries simply because "global" food shortage means that whole world is affected by it  and not only a specific region like it usually is. With that being said, I don't expect a global food crisis. Sure, some regions will be affected for sure ( mainly the poorer ones, as always) but I don't expect more developed parts of the worlds to have big issues.

The only ones who will suffer is Africa from what I have seen in the news.Zelensky the Ukrainian president is saying that they have 22 million ton of grains in their silos and they have just started the new harvest,if things do not change that means in Autumn they will have like 75 million ton of grains stuck there.That means the world will have 75 million ton of grain less which can be a big problem for countries who consume a lot of bread,we as Europeans do not consume that much compared to Africa and our population is smaller,the only continent suffering will be Africa which is highly dependent on grain and the food crisis the impact will be felt mostly by them unfortunately.

[goldkingcoiner]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

I believe that the food crisis scare is justified. Well, for very poor countries.

But they have been in a crisis long before now. And nobody has been paying much attention to them. After corona virus and now with the Russia-Ukraine issue, prices are going up.

While the higher prices are nothing but a nuisance for Europeans, it might spell disaster for those living each day penny by penny.

Saying it could be a good thing is ignorant and petty. Using the survival of the fittest excuse is something that someone with the mind of a 13 year old edgy teen could come up with.

People like that need to be sent to Africa for a few years to fend for themselves. When(if) they come back, they will never think such a way again.

[stompix]

Somebody should do something about it but I feel like it is already too late... What can we do anyway? Erase like 5+ billion people? That would be very good tbh but I don't see it happening. The most intelligent human being on earth, Bill Gates has been doing researches on the subject but he couldn't solve it neither.
If Gates can't fix it, nobody can. Pray for Gates.

Education fixes everything



The fertility rate in South America and Asia has dropped just around, in a few cases below the replacement rate, Africa is just a decade or two behind but it will soon stop growing like this pretty soon as the spread of information is far faster than in the '60s and it's far easier to educate people now with a laptop and wifi rather than going through 100 km of the jungle without a proper map, road and on top of that search for volunteers to risk their lives in yet half unknown territory.

And btw, China population might go down next year, which combined with other countries starting to experiment the same will also counter the growth elsewhere.
But, the main thing is that 1/3 of the world still relies on manual labor, and around 10% on animal-assisted farming from horses to buffaloes. Investment in these parts and modern technology could help us produce food for around 14 billion people, now we could theoretically feed 9 but due to waste, we're here!

On the contrary. If it comes to a global food shortage, countries will be less willing to help other countries simply because "global" food shortage means that whole world is affected by it  and not only a specific region like it usually is. With that being said, I don't expect a global food crisis. Sure, some regions will be affected for sure ( mainly the poorer ones, as always) but I don't expect more developed parts of the worlds to have big issues.

I wonder who still believes that fairytale about people coming together when at the first sign of panic a lot of countries have banned food exports to protect their own, in case of a famine happening money will dictate everything, the ones that can afford to pay one cent more will get their loaf of bread the ones who can't have any other hope than somebody who can pay will donate that food to them and not to somebody else.

[Kelvinid]

As we belong to a third-world country, we feel such a crisis to come. Prices in the local market continue to grow, and many people got starved due to the increased price of our necessities which is the thing I've worried about that this went worse if the war won't stop. It is really hard for the jobless individuals and even those who only got the minimum salary as they are the ones who suffered the most.

[Rikafip]

The only ones who will suffer is Africa from what I have seen in the news.Zelensky the Ukrainian president is saying that they have 22 million ton of grains in their silos and they have just started the new harvest,if things do not change that means in Autumn they will have like 75 million ton of grains stuck there.

Poorest will always suffer the most in the situation like this. That's why wealthy EU bureaucrats that have 10k+ euro monthly salary call for even harsher sanctions and telling crap how all of us have to make a sacrifice, perfectly knowing that they won't have to sacrifice anything and that won't achieve nothing.

I wonder who still believes that fairytale about people coming together when at the first sign of panic a lot of countries have banned food exports to protect their own, in case of a famine happening money will dictate everything, the ones that can afford to pay one cent more will get their loaf of bread the ones who can't have any other hope than somebody who can pay will donate that food to them and not to somebody else.

Hah yeah, some people think that in case of a global crisis people gonna hold their hands and sing kumbaya, while in reality its gonna be every man for himself when/if shit hits the fan.

[Cookdata]

Economic crises and food crises have occurred in many countries, poor countries are experiencing difficulties that do not seem to end, world policies that only accept a few currencies such as the USD or EURO make it difficult for poor countries to meet and rely on debt, and this is a worrying thing in the future.

It is not about world policies, during this kind of crisis, money doesn't have the quality to maintain its standard, food becomes the utmost priority for people and hence high inflation kick in because people fight to pay for the limited food resources that will sustain them before the new season of farming. When this happens, other countries put their citizens first. they make sure they all have to satisfaction before they consider other countries, you see that money wouldn't be the big thing buy food.

[Ultegra134]

You're going too far discussing 3rd world countries, many of which have far wider issues to deal with, such as access to clean water, schooling and so on. A quick look to the middle class is enough, which is currently being devastated by the huge inflation. In Greece, inflation surpassed 11.3%, with necessary groceries becoming luxury goods, eggs have recorded a 14% increase in price, 23% in oils (sunflower, olive oil etc.), 14% in meat and that's only the beginning. Electricity has skyrocketed, being 80% more expensive than last year, CNG over 170% and fuels over 40%.

[bitgov]

I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

Guess what - the cooking oil prices increase to double in our country and like the prices of the wheat and other food items.
You are right it is not a problem for you - but surly it is problem in my country - the poor people are crying and shouting what should they do as they have limited food supplies for the countries.