Stake.com does not pay out $40k+ money. Scam

[TwitchySeal]

What I still fail to understand is, how can someone make any kind of profit by creating multiple accounts?
Were they farming referral bonus? But given how there's almost a 10%~15% house edge on sports betting, it's impossible to farm a referral bonus. Maths won't add up.

Different players have different limits on how much they can wager.  If they think you've found an edge somewhere, they lower your limits for those types of matches.  If they think you're a whale, you get higher limits. One way to get around the lower limits is just make a bunch of new accounts.  if you get caught you can always try to gain sympathy by posting on bitcointalk to try and extort Stake while pretending to be a girl from a country that just got invaded by Russia.

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What I still fail to understand is, how can someone make any kind of profit by creating multiple accounts?
Were they farming referral bonus? But given how there's almost a 10%~15% house edge on sports betting, it's impossible to farm a referral bonus. Maths won't add up.

Different players have different limits on how much they can wager.  If they think you've found an edge somewhere, they lower your limits for those types of matches.  If they think you're a whale, you get higher limits. One way to get around the lower limits is just make a bunch of new accounts.  if you get caught you can always try to gain sympathy by posting on bitcointalk and pretending to be a girl from a country that just got invaded by Russia.

We know that you obsessed with Stake and you love stake and a fan
But don't let your emotions blind you .
Logically the odds providers limit winners all sportsbooks does that .beside Stunna admitted they don't ban you for multi accounts but he have no evidence or anything orbhow the user abused the system
The word abuse used for casinos offer deposit bonus where players arbitrage to get the bonuses
In this case Stake offer no deposit bonus what kind of advantage the player get ? Rather than being a winner nit he even said the only account her sister used is on loss.


Be reasonable it's a problem if all your posts a nonsense and 1 sided .

I hope this signature compaigns stop it's just brings spam to this forum

Also does Stunna think every player in the Stake come from Bitcointalk? And if someone got problem he must have a reputable bitcointalk account ?
That's again nosense.  And no logic behind it usually after a person get in trouble with a casino a some search they find bitcointalk same as the victims of 1xbit . It's another problem if this logic Stunna shows is what he does to judge players .
Stake not what used to be

[edgycorner]

What I still fail to understand is, how can someone make any kind of profit by creating multiple accounts?
Were they farming referral bonus? But given how there's almost a 10%~15% house edge on sports betting, it's impossible to farm a referral bonus. Maths won't add up.

Different players have different limits on how much they can wager.  If they think you've found an edge somewhere, they lower your limits for those types of matches.  If they think you're a whale, you get higher limits. One way to get around the lower limits is just make a bunch of new accounts.  if you get caught you can always try to gain sympathy by posting on bitcointalk and pretending to be a girl from a country that just got invaded by Russia.

I have ignored the said user. I can see they have made another reply.
I imagine what happened to their "there has to be something more to this than just multiple accounts" stance  

[TwitchySeal]

I imagine what happened to their "there has to be something more to this than just multiple accounts" stance  

I was 100% correct.

We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse.

If your girlfriend wants to demonstrate he's been telling the truth, first thing he should do is disable ghost mode and unhide statistics.

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I advice the OP to open a complain against Stake at Casino Guru.

[TwitchySeal]

I advice the OP to open a complain against Stake at Casino Guru.

Would you advise they claim their profit was from slots or betting sports on 15+ accounts to circumvent limits?

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I advice the OP to open a complain against Stake at Casino Guru.

Would you advise they claim their profit was from slots or betting sports on 15+ accounts to circumvent limits?

First of all. The player Said he have 2 accounts. Second Stunna said they doesn't ban for multi accounts but he don't back his words not any evidence of the 15 accounts also stake doesn't offer deposit bonus to be abused it's just a proof they want losers not winners
In a previous post I told you to use logic but from the beginning you a one sided person  
Stunna  says he have millions of users but 0.1% of them deposit 100k+ it's called selective scamming. After they select whales to scam they let minions like you who deposit withdraw 100usd speak for them.

Why you worry he post at casino guru ? There no beggars or signature compaigns with no logic to judge .or a blinded 1 sided lover.  

Since you not that smart let me put it to you this way
A casino with 100k plus players instead of scamming 400user for 100 USD each or 4000user for 10usd each
They can get an Ukraine or Russian person with 40000usd accuse him for multi accounts Wich everyone does and being a winner.
Why get 40000 scam accusation while for same amount they can get only 1.
Untill now I see stake mistake even stunna words just proved they are wrong. It's either ban all multi accounts people or don't. Don't select.
.for @twitchyseal man hope not all your 1000+ posts is not dumb with no  basic logic. Love is hard.

And for @stunna bet365 is like 100 times bigger than stake and they are selective scammers they don't pay big winners they need legal persuits to pay big winners
Search Google about them you will find hundreds of issues in famouns news outlets not words from some signature beggars In a forum
What you do now is selective scam I have 2 accounts at stake and since I loss I never had problem ?

[saxydev]

@twitchseal be on topic. your comments are just off topic, following this case for 2-3 days and i still don't see how it can be possible to have the account banned just because of multiple accounts, i use stake for 5 years, and i have 4 accounts all minimum bronze... i am arround 120k$ on minus on all of them but, if i was to be on profit would I be banned?

myself i got a situation with stake a week ago where I was banned for having my account compromised but I was still using same device, same 2fa, no password change. after 2-3 chats i've been told i've been banned because i played illegal games on sports, and i never placed ever any bet on stake, because the odds are too small in comparation with the competition, the 5th email i have received is that I need to provide proof that I didn't change the 2fa.. finally an old support came out and they helped me out, but like a week account randomly blocked (not even balance in it). lately i play only scarabs...

[TwitchySeal]

@twitchseal be on topic. your comments are just off topic, following this case for 2-3 days and i still don't see how it can be possible to have the account banned just because of multiple accounts, i use stake for 5 years, and i have 4 accounts all minimum bronze... i am arround 120k$ on minus on all of them but, if i was to be on profit would I be banned?

He wasn't banned for simply having multiple accounts.  He used multiple accounts to get around the sportsbook limits stake put on him.  

That means Stake said "hey, you can only bet $X per match from now on, that's it."  and he went and opened a bunch of new accounts so he could wager more than $X.  

stake doesn't offer deposit bonus to be abused it's just a proof they want losers not winners

Yes, that's how running a casino works.  The Casino tries to make money, not lose it.

What you do now is selective scam I have 2 accounts at stake and since I loss I never had problem ?

He wasn't banned for simply having multiple accounts.  He used multiple accounts to get around the sportsbook limits stake put on him.  

Oh wait, a few weeks ago you we buying Stake accounts and now you're defending a random new user that used 15+ accounts to get around sports book limits...you're just playing dumb to muddy the waters, aren't you?

Interested to buy old stake or primedice or wolf bet  accounts before 2019
Must have some wagering on it no need to be vip
Add me in telegram

https://t.me/Lexisb1

No need to be vip, so you weren't buying them for the monthly bonuses...why on earth would old Stake accounts have value to you?  Hmmmm.....could it be they were going to be used to circumvent sports book limits?  

Clever idea, shitty execution.

[PalamarNadia]

What I still fail to understand is, how can someone make any kind of profit by creating multiple accounts?
Were they farming referral bonus? But given how there's almost a 10%~15% house edge on sports betting, it's impossible to farm a referral bonus. Maths won't add up.

Different players have different limits on how much they can wager.  If they think you've found an edge somewhere, they lower your limits for those types of matches.  If they think you're a whale, you get higher limits. One way to get around the lower limits is just make a bunch of new accounts.  if you get caught you can always try to gain sympathy by posting on bitcointalk to try and extort Stake while pretending to be a girl from a country that just got invaded by Russia.

Getting your money is called extortion? Can you somehow prove that I am "pretending to be a girl from Ukraine" or should we believe your authoritative words?  I can't open my stats because my account is in "Withdrawal Mode". Can you ask your steak girlfriends to open it once you need it?

[PalamarNadia]

@twitchseal be on topic. your comments are just off topic, following this case for 2-3 days and i still don't see how it can be possible to have the account banned just because of multiple accounts, i use stake for 5 years, and i have 4 accounts all minimum bronze... i am arround 120k$ on minus on all of them but, if i was to be on profit would I be banned?

myself i got a situation with stake a week ago where I was banned for having my account compromised but I was still using same device, same 2fa, no password change. after 2-3 chats i've been told i've been banned because i played illegal games on sports, and i never placed ever any bet on stake, because the odds are too small in comparation with the competition, the 5th email i have received is that I need to provide proof that I didn't change the 2fa.. finally an old support came out and they helped me out, but like a week account randomly blocked (not even balance in it). lately i play only scarabs...

Do not even doubt that they will treat you the same as they did me, as long as you accept deposits you will be a good client and will not receive any restrictions. If you go in plus everything will change. Don't listen to this fanatic who has never deposited more than $100. It's his job to protect these free spins scammers while Stunna is resting. He doesn't even understand the difference between multi-account and "account abuse". These concepts are the same

[TwitchySeal]

He doesn't even understand the difference between multi-account and "account abuse". These concepts are the same

They won't freeze your funds simply for having multiple accounts.  If you use multiple accounts to to wager more than the limit they put on you, they might.

We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse.

See?

Don't listen to this fanatic who has never deposited more than $100. It's his job to protect these free spins scammers while Stunna is resting.

If you want people to believe you, you shouldn't make things up about other people.  Even if you're angry. 

[PalamarNadia]

He doesn't even understand the difference between multi-account and "account abuse". These concepts are the same

They won't freeze your funds simply for having multiple accounts.  If you use multiple accounts to to wager more than the limit they put on you, they might.

We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse.

See?

Don't listen to this fanatic who has never deposited more than $100. It's his job to protect these free spins scammers while Stunna is resting.

If you want people to believe you, you shouldn't make things up about other people.  Even if you're angry. 

Why are you allowed to come up with the fact that I'm "pretending"? Could it be your favorite site pretending to accept $100k deposits from me?

[edgycorner]

What I still fail to understand is, how can someone make any kind of profit by creating multiple accounts?
Were they farming referral bonus? But given how there's almost a 10%~15% house edge on sports betting, it's impossible to farm a referral bonus. Maths won't add up.

Different players have different limits on how much they can wager.  If they think you've found an edge somewhere, they lower your limits for those types of matches.  If they think you're a whale, you get higher limits. One way to get around the lower limits is just make a bunch of new accounts.  if you get caught you can always try to gain sympathy by posting on bitcointalk to try and extort Stake while pretending to be a girl from a country that just got invaded by Russia.

Getting your money is called extortion? Can you somehow prove that I am "pretending to be a girl from Ukraine" or should we believe your authoritative words?  I can't open my stats because my account is in "Withdrawal Mode". Can you ask your steak girlfriends to open it once you need it?

Please don't pick fights with him.
He's trying his best to deviate this thread from the topic.
Ignore this user.

Imagine supporting stake

Edit: Stake is more or less unregulated with their Curacao license.

The greatest disadvantage of a license from Curacao is that it doesn’t have much meaning. Just about anyone serious about starting a gambling site can afford the fees and make it through the initial investigation. As long as you have the cash and a fair casino, you’re pretty much in.

Players are well aware that the licensing standards in places like Curacao don’t mean much compared to licenses from other, more discerning jurisdictions. Casinos licensed by Curacao have suddenly gone rogue, stolen money, and disappeared. Curacao doesn’t intervene in disputes between players and operators. From the player’s point of view, a license from Curacao is meaningless.

Of course, there are plenty of safe and respectable gambling sites licensed in Curacao. It’s a safe, legal place to establish an online casino. However, casinos located in Curacao must build their own reputations the old-fashioned way. A license from Curacao isn’t the quick ticket to trust.

If you do run into any trouble with their licensing or have any specific questions that aren’t answered here you can contact them any time. They make it pretty easy to get in touch with them through phone or email. Also for more information on what they are all about you can visit their website as well. All of their information is below:

Source: https://www.gamblingsites.org/laws/curacao/

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Trust pilot is full of scan accusations against Stake
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/stake.com

[JasonXIII]

I don't think it's anywhere near appropriate to leave a red trust feed back to an "opponent" in a discussion where you are mainly engaged (already 12 posts from you in this thread).

Be wary. He is adamantly and irrationally defending someone that is using the forum to manipulate a casino with fake scam accusations. I don't know what his motives are, but his arguments are definitely not in good faith.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1016829

It just looks as a nasty retaliation for not sharing your views on the matter.

Moreover I don't understand why you are saying in your feed back the accusations are fake while it's not denied that the funds deposited by the plaintiff have been illegally seized by the casino.

And I'm not talking about your red feed back to PalamarNadia while her case is obviously far away from being closed.

Made a false scam accusation against a casino hoping to win sympathy and force the casino to choose between paying them and damaging their reputation.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3481071

By the way for the sake of transparency, you are promoting another offshore casino, are you a member of this company (or any casino company)?

[PalamarNadia]

Once a month something like this is posted by a brand new account acting innocent and putting on a show to try and get some money. Not sure why they choose to waste everyone's time with some bs story about how they were innocently placing some bets and were randomly restricted. It never works, any integrity team investigation is done completely independently to what is posted here.

Stake has millions of users and for someone to be suspended from the website in a situation like OP is describing is not arbitrary. We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse.

This individual placing bets obtained their profit from betting on sports not casino on 15+ accounts. They made these accounts to circumvent limits and restrictions put on previous accounts and have used their entire extended family's ID along with other potentially bought or borrowed ID's in an attempt to get around these limits. We have a number of methods that gave us very high confidence to link these accounts far beyond the ID's used. I don't want to share all details of the investigation as they will try to find ways to circumvent in the future. They have made a substantial profit all in all because of their use of a bulk of accounts.

Maybe because I feel sympathy for OP since she's a woman from Ukraine who can't speak English to be able to present their case?

 

https://streamable.com/9wmyr4
This is a video in which I described my whole situation with you. For those who say that I "pretend". It is in my native language as I don't speak English well. Here is the translation of my words:


Hello “Everyone”

My name is Nadia
i am thirty five year old woman, I am from “Kharkov”, Ukraine.
I am making this video because I am scammed fourty thousand American dollars by stake. Drake is there partner, so I thought money will be safe . Now my account is suspended, they are not reply no more and I can’t withdraw my forty thousand dollars.
please help me, I have provided everything they asked for and still they have my money for ten days.
Forty thousand is a lot of money for me, it’s more than my family’s life saving.
they are saying I break a term and condition and created more than one account, but I do not break anything. I only have one account and they have suspended it now.

I also have questions for Stunna that I think everyone here would be interested in, namely:
1. Stunna, what's the difference when a person registered on the forum, and what status is he, just to help him, and not respond mockingly?
2. Why did you ignore my questions to you, as well as other members of this forum who are also interested in these questions?
3. One of your points about withdrawing funds on your website reads as follows: "Account Holders who wish to recover funds held in a closed, locked or excluded account, are advised to contact Customer Support.
All transactions shall be checked in order to prevent money laundering. If a player becomes aware of any suspicious activity relating to any of the Games of the Website, s/he must report this to Stake immediately. Stake may suspend, block or close a Stake Account and withhold funds if requested to do so in accordance with the Prevention of Money Laundering Act or on any other legal basis requested by any state authority."


Which government agency has requested a seizure of my funds? Am I breaking money laundering laws? obviously not..


Then on what legal grounds are you holding them? You can kick me out, but you can't withhold funds.

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Once a month something like this is posted by a brand new account acting innocent and putting on a show to try and get some money. Not sure why they choose to waste everyone's time with some bs story about how they were innocently placing some bets and were randomly restricted. It never works, any integrity team investigation is done completely independently to what is posted here.

Stake has millions of users and for someone to be suspended from the website in a situation like OP is describing is not arbitrary. We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse.

This individual placing bets obtained their profit from betting on sports not casino on 15+ accounts. They made these accounts to circumvent limits and restrictions put on previous accounts and have used their entire extended family's ID along with other potentially bought or borrowed ID's in an attempt to get around these limits. We have a number of methods that gave us very high confidence to link these accounts far beyond the ID's used. I don't want to share all details of the investigation as they will try to find ways to circumvent in the future. They have made a substantial profit all in all because of their use of a bulk of accounts.

Maybe because I feel sympathy for OP since she's a woman from Ukraine who can't speak English to be able to present their case?

 

https://streamable.com/9wmyr4
This is a video in which I described my whole situation with you. For those who say that I "pretend". It is in my native language as I don't speak English well. Here is the translation of my words:


Hello “Everyone”

My name is Nadia
i am thirty five year old woman, I am from “Kharkov”, Ukraine.
I am making this video because I am scammed fourty thousand American dollars by stake. Drake is there partner, so I thought money will be safe . Now my account is suspended, they are not reply no more and I can’t withdraw my forty thousand dollars.
please help me, I have provided everything they asked for and still they have my money for ten days.
Forty thousand is a lot of money for me, it’s more than my family’s life saving.
they are saying I break a term and condition and created more than one account, but I do not break anything. I only have one account and they have suspended it now.

I also have questions for Stunna that I think everyone here would be interested in, namely:
1. Stunna, what's the difference when a person registered on the forum, and what status is he, just to help him, and not respond mockingly?
2. Why did you ignore my questions to you, as well as other members of this forum who are also interested in these questions?
3. One of your points about withdrawing funds on your website reads as follows: "Account Holders who wish to recover funds held in a closed, locked or excluded account, are advised to contact Customer Support.
All transactions shall be checked in order to prevent money laundering. If a player becomes aware of any suspicious activity relating to any of the Games of the Website, s/he must report this to Stake immediately. Stake may suspend, block or close a Stake Account and withhold funds if requested to do so in accordance with the Prevention of Money Laundering Act or on any other legal basis requested by any state authority."


Which government agency has requested a seizure of my funds? Am I breaking money laundering laws? obviously not..


Then on what legal grounds are you holding them? You can kick me out, but you can't withhold funds.

Hopefully you get your funds back.
Helped the OP to open a casino guru complain
https://casino.guru/stake-casino-player-has-been-accused-of-opening-multiple-1

[TwitchySeal]

Moreover I don't understand why you are saying in your feed back the accusations are fake while it's not denied that the funds deposited by the plaintiff have been illegally seized by the casino.

On a brand new forum account, OP claimed funds were frozen for having multiple accounts and winnings were mainly from slots.

Stunna, one of the most trusted in the crypto gambling world and the co founder of prime dice and stake:

This individual placing bets obtained their profit from betting on sports not casino on 15+ accounts. They made these accounts to circumvent limits and restrictions put on previous accounts and have used their entire extended family's ID along with other potentially bought or borrowed ID's in an attempt to get around these limits.

Also, as a regular on Stake for years, that talks to many other regulars on Stake, I know for a fact that Stake very rarely freezes funds, and when they do it's not for having multiple accounts.  If they started doing that, I would hear about it, and we'd have multiple accusations from credible members in no time.

By the way for the sake of transparency, you are promoting another offshore casino, are you a member of this company (or any casino company)?

No and no.  

[aew]

Moreover I don't understand why you are saying in your feed back the accusations are fake while it's not denied that the funds deposited by the plaintiff have been illegally seized by the casino.

On a brand new forum account, OP claimed funds were frozen for having multiple accounts and winnings were mainly from slots.

Stunna, one of the most trusted in the crypto gambling world and the co founder of prime dice and stake:

This individual placing bets obtained their profit from betting on sports not casino on 15+ accounts. They made these accounts to circumvent limits and restrictions put on previous accounts and have used their entire extended family's ID along with other potentially bought or borrowed ID's in an attempt to get around these limits.

Also, as a regular on Stake for years, that talks to many other regulars on Stake, I know for a fact that Stake very rarely freezes funds, and when they do it's not for having multiple accounts.  If they started doing that, I would hear about it, and we'd have multiple accusations from credible members in no time.

By the way for the sake of transparency, you are promoting another offshore casino, are you a member of this company (or any casino company)?

No and no.  

Hey Twitchyseal can't believe you gave her a negative trust.  It's a proof you are a scum bag .
Hopefully when She get her money back you get what you deserve.
A negative trust from me guaranteed when the case closeddir abusing the Trust system and hopefully all members who believe this guy is a scum bug to give him what he deserves don't be afraid if he left a negative trust to you he is a nobody .
I have no gain from this but I stand with the logic.  Gi ahead and leave a bad truth to me too for standing in her side be a man .