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June 03, 2022, 04:41:07 PM
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If the casino is provably fair, you can take the server seed, the user seed, and the nonce to see the result of the next X shots. This process is called bet verification. But we can't use it to predict the next results on the casino because the server seed is hidden, and the right way to see the real seed is by requesting a new hidden one to make public the past one.

Thinking about that I developed a site where we can get the result of N bets using the same provably fair from the casino Just-Dice.


And there is a section where you can find some Bots to run on the casino.

This is just the first step of the project, I would like to discuss with the gambling community what features should I include and what casinos you will like to be able to run simulations.

Source: https://justdice.lucky.lat/

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*I know the perfect bot doesn't exist and all of them will get busted in the long run because that's what house edge does.
*The faucet and the casino have Adfly links as a way to monetize the site, but users don't need to see those adds for running the Simulator or see the Bot Codes.

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June 04, 2022, 01:52:26 PM
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You made very great initiative for forum community especially gamblers.

I knew some sites and tools regarding to bots, verifiers.
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One of issues with gambling sites is KYC and restricted areas.
Which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted countries?. If you can include it in your bot, that will be super cool.

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June 04, 2022, 05:18:40 PM
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Thanks for the great tool OP. This will help players to verify their games results on an independent third party verifier.
I tried to crosscheck the results I got from your website with results from other verifiers (RGBkey and provablyfair.meand they match. So, this tool works perfectly. I suggest you contact just-dice.com ad ask them to add your tool to their list of verifiers (there are already four of them).

On other verifiers, I noticed they ask for the hash of the server seed. I suggest you add this option too since it will help to confirm that the seed hash matches the seed.

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June 04, 2022, 06:50:38 PM
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Although I'm not very good at understanding bots like this, but when I see you do development and initiatives that are quite helpful, it doesn't hurt that one day I will definitely need it. Sorry OP if the development is optimal, I hope to include a tutorial as detailed as possible so that beginners can also implement what you have made.

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June 04, 2022, 08:19:52 PM
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And there is a section where you can find some Bots to run on the casino.
^ Just only here in this section. For example, Seuntjies DiceBot, and this is the thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307425.0
They have also a thread of guides on how to use their bot effectively on the dice only and here is the thread below.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391870.
They are here since 2013.
However, you have presented a good bot, looking forward to it and to see more updates so that many people will use your bot and it will probably including me.
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June 04, 2022, 08:45:43 PM
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Great initiative OP, this is good for people who wants to gamble more and just like to automate everything so easily. Well, I'll stick with what you stated, house edge does kill bettors regardless of the strategy we will use, so I thought it's very important to enjoy the game and personally I would just use the conventional way.

The best feature is the bet verification as that would make us confident that gambling sites are not cheating us.

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June 04, 2022, 10:27:22 PM
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Interesting concept for a gambling bot could be perhaps making one very hidden and impossible to detect? I don't have much (or any) experience with gambling bots but as I understand it, the ones you are proposing to us is a bot that's supposed to simulate? You could use them as marketing tools to increase website traffic by giving users the chance to simulate a bet.

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This is a good innovation and is fine for me. Although I don't know much about using bot and stimulator to run betting on gambling platforms but I'm curious about being detected by different means gambling platforms do use to get hold of gambling bots. I will be looking at getting more understanding about how this bot will work to achieve a swift result.

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This looks easy to use in my opinion so I would say that this is a good bot. For things to add then there's nothing I could think off. Well for others, I think they might have something to add especially those who always gamble. This will really help players wanted to verify the bets and know if the site is provably fair by using this tool. Perfect bot or not as long as it do it's uses then we're good to go.

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June 05, 2022, 07:12:32 AM
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It is great concept Op. It will great who want gamble autocratic. I love Dice and it is my fevourite casinos game on gambling. Your bot can be useful to me. it will really help players even ne wanted to verify the bets and know if the site is provably fair by using this tool. And it will give us confidence that gambling sites are not cheating us. Hope something good by you

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June 05, 2022, 08:57:11 AM
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Thanks for sharing this here mate, you are a good forum member that only wishes for the benefits and greatness of the forum members and gamblers.

the tools seems to be easy to use and will be a Big Help for all of us and Sure that I will be going to use this.


again Thanks for this mate.

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June 05, 2022, 12:06:34 PM
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June 05, 2022, 01:56:49 PM
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This is quite interesting. You have actually done something which can be utilized to get a better perception about your bets.
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^ Just only here in this section. For example, Seuntjies DiceBot, and this is the thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307425.0
They have also a thread of guides on how to use their bot effectively on the dice only and here is the thread below.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391870.
They are here since 2013.
However, you have presented a good bot, looking forward to it and to see more updates so that many people will use your bot and it will probably including me.

Hey DoublerHunter, as you mention, Seuntjies bot is an awesome tool, but I don't like the fact that it only runs on Windows  Undecided while the codes i share work directly on the explorer.

Interesting concept for a gambling bot could be perhaps making one very hidden and impossible to detect?.

You don't need to hide the bot, it can be blocked if your bets come too fast, but in my experience, i have done more than 40,000 bets and haven't gotten banned. A lot of users in JD run bots, is like a normal feature for them :p And what you can do is to hide your bets from other users if you want to bet with privacy.

This is quite interesting. You have actually done something which can be utilized to get a better perception about your bets.
Could you please make one for the site BC.GAME as well ? It will be good to see how our bets will turn to our favor.

There is one made from them https://bcgame-project.github.io/verify/crash.html i just take a look at their provably fair engine and i don't like it at all because they know the result from the future bets, they can't modify it, but the casino could take the money from the investors this way.

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June 05, 2022, 04:46:46 PM
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Hello OP, This is a very cool project of yours! The dice site to test the bots seems not working at this moment when I click the link to visit just-dice. I want to see first the bot functionality before I can make suggestion but I'm looking for a bot feature that has a flexible feature that has a built-in strategy like martingale, bet small bets until certain red stread occur then bet big after and etc. So that it will save time to setup bot per strategy.

Or atleast let user save multiple strategy on the bot system.

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June 06, 2022, 01:31:30 PM
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There is one made from them https://bcgame-project.github.io/verify/crash.html i just take a look at their provably fair engine and i don't like it at all because they know the result from the future bets, they can't modify it, but the casino could take the money from the investors this way.

This one is only for the crash game right ? I guess you made this one for the dice game.

Also, even if they knew the results of the future bets how can they use it to their favor ?
It's not like they are changing the odds or something ? Could you please elaborate as it might help a lot of us.

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Why I should use a betting bots for the Dice, if the fun mode is to see the Dice that turns in your favour?  Grin

I've seen some strategy not much time ago, But I wasn't really happy about that, considering that in the long term casinò will always beat you.


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Why I should use a betting bots for the Dice, if the fun mode is to see the Dice that turns in your favour?  Grin

I've seen some strategy not much time ago, But I wasn't really happy about that, considering that in the long term casinò will always beat you.

The betting bots are nice for the long run, lets's say, you want to hit a x10,000 in 5k bets, do 5k bet manually is a complex task, that's why betting bots are nice, and more if you want to add parameters, like increase the bet by 0.01% each bet, that way we can chase a nice win for the long run.

The last bot I run was chasing the x250... divide the balance by 1000 and bet that amount, if the balance drops 10% then increase the bet with the sum of bet+(bet/100).

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Why I should use a betting bots for the Dice, if the fun mode is to see the Dice that turns in your favour?  Grin

I've seen some strategy not much time ago, But I wasn't really happy about that, considering that in the long term casinò will always beat you.


I even dislike bot betting application for everything and why i dislike this, is because i know that it will have much disadvantages and secondly it is not every gambling site or gambling section it will happen to, casino games is that kind of gamble and soccer kind of game such application can work for, and it won't be perfect, and the subscription you will use to bet through the application can be the fund they will refund you if you lose, so i have not seen any benefits

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I even dislike bot betting application for everything and why i dislike this, ..., so i have not seen any benefits

The benefits of betting with a bot is that you could run a betting strategy without doing anything, you could be working or making some stuff while your bot chase a 10,000 bets run.

By the way, I added a couple of bots to the site:

Name: x250
Description: The bot divides the balance between 1000, and when the balance goes under 90% (100 bets), it start increasing the bet. You can see the image in my past post.

Name: Inverse Martingale
Description: When you win the bet, then the profit multiply x2, if you lose then the bet amount gets back to the starting point, this is the image:


And I updated the bot section adding an image of each bot working, that will help some of you to see how it works.

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