How much do you care when you wear a commercial Signature?

[Rengga Jati]

Do you research before Apply?

It depends on what signature project to follow. Usually, if the signature project is managed by a Bounty Manager who has done legit project campaigns several times and the project uses a fixed payment in BTC or USDT, it will be more reliable (of course also look at the previous reputation). However, if it is a new project, without escrow, or a project with its own token payment, of course, it requires research first. Because, of course, you don't want to work in vain, do you? But in my case, I am using this RollBit Signature and some previous signatures paid in BTC without any research.  
However, if the project has an obvious bad reputation and scam accusations, then it should definitely be avoided.

When I entered this website, I was surprised. Because according to them, 1Xbit is a pretty good website, and they rated them 81 out of 100.

I would better avoid the reviews from this kind of site, for many things. As an example, I can create several accounts, create fake reviews, and other things that are supported or not supported by any sites.
As in your case, I also found this:


And about 1xbit, this site has been in scam accusation in this forum, there are many scam accusations with proves that you can find.

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[decodx]

<...> Because I saw a few signature participants (1xbit) got tagged because they promoted scam websites.

There is no need to compare 1xbit campaigns and their participants with any other campaign on the forum.

It has been proved that 1xBit is a scam casino. Their signature campaign on this forum is fake, and all participating accounts are alt accounts hired as part of bumping services. You will not find any genuine members there.

[AnotherAlt]

I am not sure if this is the appropriate board to post this.

P.S. This thread fits better on the Meta section.

I think this belongs in Reputation, not Meta.

I will move this thread to the Reputation board. Before that, Could @mk4 or anyone else please confirm that the Reputation board is appropriate for this thread? Because I already moved it from Beginner and Help To Meta, Now Meta to Reputation, maybe someone else could suggest another. So, I want to confirm again. There is no offence to LoyceV, but I want to make sure I move it to the correct section.

There is no need to compare 1xbit campaigns and their participants with any other campaign on the forum.

It has been proved that 1xBit is a scam casino. Their signature campaign on this forum is fake, and all participating accounts are alt accounts hired as part of bumping services. You will not find any genuine members there.

I am not comparing other campaigns with 1xbet. But, I am giving 1xbit as an example because almost every veteran knows that 1xbit is a scam casino.
Okay, Guys, I have read all the posts made in this thread so far. It will help me (and other members, too) pick the correct signature campaign in the future.

I am agreed with most of the opinions, except I am being hired by the company when they accept me as a signature participant.
They accepted my application because they have reviewed my profile and seems they liked my post quality. That's why they accepted my application. The only I have to do is, Campaign has some rules, and I have to follow the rules. Example: Post x number of posts on x board per week, post must contain x number of characters. I don't think they have control over my writing habit and interest in writing.

But, As I can see, almost everyone feels like they are being hired by the signature company. Maybe I will be forced to believe that too in the future.

[Despairo]

So, I want to confirm again. There is no offence to LoyceV, but I want to make sure I move it to the correct section.

Just wait and see, if someone have reported your thread and it's not belong in Beginners & Help section, then the moderators will move it to appropriate section. Sometime a thread can be appropriate posted in several section, but depends on the section you want your thread will stay.

The only I have to do is, Campaign has some rules, and I have to follow the rules. Example: Post x number of posts on x board per week, post must contain x number of characters. I don't think they have control over my writing habit and interest in writing.

Correct, even if you dislike the project that you promote, you can write it whatever you want. But it's just doesn't make sense since how can you doesn't like the campaign, but you're still promoting them. Perhaps the campaign manager will warn you for doing that or exclude you.

[Rikafip]

I don't have to advocate for them since their Campaign rules don't say that. The only I have to do is, Maintain the post quality and reach the minimum limit.

Who says anything about advocating for them? When I said that you are hired, I of course meant your signature space/avatar as that's the thing that you offered to them in exchange for money. I don't know about you, but for me being hired doesn't equal to someone owning me.

I must admit that I was surprised that no signature campaign that pays in Bitcoin accepts members with Member rank, because higher ranks do not necessarily mean higher quality posts. Certain Hero and Legendary member participating in some signature campaigns are far worse than some Member or even Jr.Member ranks.

One of the rare long term signature campaigns that accepted Member rank was Bustadice, I was accepted as a Member rank but one of the problem was that you were essentially stuck at your initial rank even after you ranked up, as I remember being Sr Member and still getting paid Member fee. Nevertheless, I do agree that more campaigns should lower their requirements as there are always couple of quality lower rank members around but

[Pmalek]

I have been in a few campaigns where different casinos and gambling platforms were advertised before joining ChipMixer. I don't read opinions on review sites because most of them are paid and unreliable anyways. I check the forum reputation of the sites I advertise in my signature space. If they have scammed before and have legitimate negative ratings, I don't apply for such campaigns.

It's tricky when we are taking about casinos because even the best ones have people claiming they scammed them and stole money. Sometimes you have to make your own judgement when a case could have gone in anyone's favor. Since 1xBit was mentioned by the OP. Anyone who cares about his forum reputation would never advertise this casino no matter what money is being offered.

[Welsh]

Okay, so I see that some users don't believe you're being hired, even the OP. So, basically all hired means is they're paying you to do something for them. In this instance, they're paying you for the posts you make. It's not a sponsorship, and most definitely is a hired position. I think users are getting confused that hired means you've to be a sockpuppet to the company, but that isn't true. People working at ASDA/Walmart might not recommend that store over another, doesn't stop them from being hired by them.

You can hire me to go pick up groceries for you, code a line of code or mind your children. The principles are the same. If you want any other confirmation, any signature earnings you make is deemed as income, now you might not be directly employed by the company i.e on their books, but you will be deemed to be self employed (it might have another term in other countries). Therefore, the tax authorities will be expecting you to declare every single earning as income, and be taxed appropriately on it.

Also, by advertising a certain product or service you're effectively putting your reputation on the line. For example, certain companies won't hire you if you've been involved in a branch of KFC that was shut down for cleanliness, because it reflects badly on you. So, at every given moment you should ideally be checking on the reputation, and who you're intending on advertising for, that's if you care about your reputation.

At the end of the day though, we're arguing over semantics. They pay you to do a job, you do that job, and must declare that as income to the tax man. That's as simple as it gets.  

It's tricky when we are taking about casinos because even the best ones have people claiming they scammed them and stole money. Sometimes you have to make your own judgement when a case could have gone in anyone's favor. Since 1xBit was mentioned by the OP. Anyone who cares about his forum reputation would never advertise this casino no matter what money is being offered.

That's true, although generally outward scams are widely known among the community, since one off's are likely not reading the terms of service or was a misunderstanding, and usually rectified by the person responsible if both parties are reputable.

I would interrupt here. I don't feel the same here. In my opinion, My Account is my property. My profile signature space is also my property.

Technically, your account probably isn't your property any more than it's your property on any other social media. It's the company or people behind it that own it, technically speaking. Although, that's rather irrelevant.

When they accept my application means they have reviewed my profile. When I applied there meant I accepted their Campaign rules. In my opinion, Basically, they rented my signature space. I don't have to advocate for them since their Campaign rules don't say that. The only I have to do is, Maintain the post quality and reach the minimum limit.

You don't have to advocate for them, but I can bet if you started advocating for alternatives in your posts or you were talking down of their service you wouldn't be hired for long.

[hatshepsut93]

I don't apply to campaigns often, since I'm usually staying in campaigns for long term, but when I do, I check that the owner is legit, that they don't have negative reputation and don't do something shady. As a personal rule, I would never advertise an ICO, DeFi, NFT and other fresh blockchain projects that are generally scams. I prefer advertising a legitimate business and not some investment.

Do you feel like they hired you?

In some ways yes and in some ways no. I don't feel obligated to publicly defend and support the company that I advertise, but I do say good things about them if I used their services myself and found them genuinely satisfying. On the other hand, the words and actions of campaign members can reflect on the company, even if they aren't recognized as official representatives, so it's another reason to think twice before hitting that "Post" button.

[TelolettOm]

After so many lessons and experiences that I got at the passed, I care much about this. Because this also relates to our account reputation. We have seen that every member wearing a signature code from a certain platform will directly get red trust. Does it mean that we also get the bad reputation? But I don't know why they keep wearing it over the time. Badly, the campaign is still ongoing so far.

[laredo7mm]

Do you research before Apply?

Do you research the platform background, or do you examine its legitimacy? I am asking this because I never played on 1xBit, and I didn't get scammed by them. Before joining their platform or signature campaign, I wouldn't know they were scammers. Not only 1xBit. What about other platforms? For example, if A new casino platform offers signature campaigns, Or an exchanger offers a signature campaign, Would you join their campaign without researching their platform? If you investigate any platform, What is the process? How do you check if they are good or bad?

This is the most important part. I always do check about the project legitimacy and its potential if they are paying in an altcoin. I do not care if it's a Stable coin payout campaign( though I prefer to join a stable coin payout campaign) or an altcoin campaign. If it's an altcoin payout campaign then I tried to make sure this project has a future.

I do care about wearing a signature because I do not mind a little earning along with some learning.

[LTU_btc]

I haven't changed my campaign for 3 years already, but yeah, no doubts that I would make research about company before joining their campaign. I want to know what I'm advertising. Yeah, in past I had advertised Yobit, but I'm not proud about it. I had more or less ok experience with their service and I believed that they're not so bad. But now I hardly can imagine myself advertising Yobit. Making research about new projects is more difficult, but so far I've been participant only of established business signature campaigns.
And no, I don't feel like being hired. I don't change my posting habits because of campaign and I'm not going to defend them just because they're paying me. I'll defend them if they're right, but same I can defend their competitor if it's attacked without valid reason.

Okay, so I see that some users don't believe you're being hired, even the OP. So, basically all hired means is they're paying you to do something for them. In this instance, they're paying you for the posts you make. It's not a sponsorship, and most definitely is a hired position. I think users are getting confused that hired means you've to be a sockpuppet to the company, but that isn't true. People working at ASDA/Walmart might not recommend that store over another, doesn't stop them from being hired by them.

Well, in that terms, yeah, you're being hired. But I don't consider it as being hired because I'm not working for a company, I just continue posting without changing my posting habits. It's something similar like I would put someone's advertisement on my car.

[AnotherAlt]

But I don't consider it as being hired because I'm not working for a company, I just continue posting without changing my posting habits. It's something similar like I would put someone's advertisement on my car.

Exactly this is what I am trying to say when someone says they feel like they are being hired. As I have already said, I don't think I would feel hired because just because of joining the campaign, I am not going to change my post habits and also, Most of the platform doesn't require writing something for them. So, It's more like sponsoring.

[Z-tight]

But I don't consider it as being hired because I'm not working for a company, I just continue posting without changing my posting habits.

The signature campaigns members of this forum work for are companies, just not a brick and mortar company, but it is a company/organisation in every sense of the word; and for the time you have their signature on and advertise the company in the forum, you are being hired by them.

It's something similar like I would put someone's advertisement on my car.

It is not, if you willingly put someone's advertisement on your car, then you are not hired to do so, it is just your personal wish. But if someone or an organisation contacts you or you contact them to put their advertisement on your car for a specific amount to be paid, at a specific time, then that person or organisation is hiring your services, and it is no longer a free service as you are now on their payroll and you have to act according to their terms and condition, failure to do so would result in either you being fired or you deciding to voluntarily leave. This is how signature campaigns are run too.

So, It's more like sponsoring.

How can it be sponsorship when you aren't the one spending your money to promote the project, and they are the ones paying you to promote their project. Even if we are to put it in another way, let us say you are 'adverting the project in a bid to sponsor them', then you will have to be doing it for free, in the hope of returns when the company progresses in the future. But is any of that happening when you are on a signature campaign, no.

[Gozie51]

Do you research before Apply?

Bounty is different from signature campaigns. Signature campaigns are more secured and guarantee depending on the manager. So basically you can have a little under ground idea to be legit from the manager who decided to take up the job and recruit posters. They won't want to do a job that they can't get reward in btc for people working under them because of their reputation that is at stake and that is why they put some campaigns on hold, pause or stop it entirely when they don't get response from owners to avoid bad spoiling their hard earned reputation but that of bounty is not guarantee so you need a thorough research

Do you feel like they hired you?

This is better known as a contract and not as highering. Hire may have more committed conditions but as a contract, you do what you are expected by the rules and get rewarded and at the end when it is ended, everybody go their way but highering doesn't end that way, there are more attachment and benefit

[LTU_btc]

The signature campaigns members of this forum work for are companies, just not a brick and mortar company, but it is a company/organisation in every sense of the word; and for the time you have their signature on and advertise the company in the forum, you are being hired by them.

To be precise, yeah, you're right. But IMO, being hired for signature camapign is far from working in brick and mortar company. Sgnature campaign is just agreement. There is no written contract and other stuff common when working in brick and mortar company. But yeah, to be precise, signature campaign hire people, but at least from my perspective, I don't change my habits because of camapign and this is why I don't feel that I'm hired.

It is not, if you willingly put someone's advertisement on your car, then you are not hired to do so, it is just your personal wish. But if someone or an organisation contacts you or you contact them to put their advertisement on your car for a specific amount to be paid, at a specific time, then that person or organisation is hiring your services, and it is no longer a free service as you are now on their payroll and you have to act according to their terms and condition, failure to do so would result in either you being fired or you deciding to voluntarily leave. This is how signature campaigns are run too.

When I bring example about advertisement on a car, offcourse that I had in my mind that I'm not doing it for free. Like many companies put their ads on buses, but schedule of buses isn't changed because of it.

[Oceat]

Why are you bothered when wearing one? Of course, there's always a discussion if that campaign producing signatures is legit once there's a topic that would raise attention to almost users especially the people who wears them. And so far, I haven't seen someone wearing it unless they apply/join to that particular signature campaign so that they will get paid.

And I think it's right to do some research first before joining one so that we are all aware if the campaign we are joining is a legit one or it has an open accusation that would lead to our account to be compromised.

[Kasabus]

Of course I don't want to promote a scam and before I get involved in a campaign I check the basic information about the campaign and what other members of the forum say.
In recent years, I have mostly followed the same manager, whom I trust, and I only sign up for his campaigns.
There was no suspicion of fraud around his campaigns and no problem with payment.
I'm satisfied with that and my last campaign has been going on for almost 2 years, so I haven't had to think about these issues for a long time.

Most likely, its always those reliable campaign managers that serve as my good basis. Once i know its certainly one of them who will manage the campaign, i don't have to think if its legit or not since i know the background of that campaign manager and has been doing successful campaigns from his previous assignments. I do research but more on the rules and goals of the campaign so i can make a good contribution that the project will take benefit.

[Vaculin]

Do you research before Apply?

Do you research the platform background, or do you examine its legitimacy? I am asking this because I never played on 1xBit, and I didn't get scammed by them. Before joining their platform or signature campaign, I wouldn't know they were scammers. Not only 1xBit. What about other platforms? For example, if A new casino platform offers signature campaigns, Or an exchanger offers a signature campaign, Would you join their campaign without researching their platform? If you investigate any platform, What is the process? How do you check if they are good or bad?

This is the most important part. I always do check about the project legitimacy and its potential if they are paying in an altcoin. I do not care if it's a Stable coin payout campaign( though I prefer to join a stable coin payout campaign) or an altcoin campaign. If it's an altcoin payout campaign then I tried to make sure this project has a future.

I do care about wearing a signature because I do not mind a little earning along with some learning.

Of course, the campaign members should always consider if the project has a future in the first place, otherwise most likely this project will end up as a scam. And its hard to accept that we have been fooled around and all our efforts have gone into waste.  That is why i prefer to apply in campaigns that are managed by some of my favorite campaign managers because the issues if its legit or not is something that i don't have to deal.  And i guess, good campaigns manager will never accept projects that would ever ruin their hard earned credibility in the market.

[Finestream]

I am not sure if this is the appropriate board to post this. But I am posting it here.

I know I am not eligible for any signature campaign. But I am interested to know a few things. Because I saw a few signature participants (1xbit) got tagged because they promoted scam websites. I think this topic will be helpful for other new members too.

How much do you care about the signature that you are wearing? There are a lot of platforms promoting their business. But, Not all of them are legit. There are some scam casinos like 1xbet. But, There are a lot of bounty campaigns that offer signature campaigns. But, half of them (even more) end up scamming their participants.

Do you research before Apply?

Do you research the platform background, or do you examine its legitimacy? I am asking this because I never played on 1xBit, and I didn't get scammed by them. Before joining their platform or signature campaign, I wouldn't know they were scammers. Not only 1xBit. What about other platforms? For example, if A new casino platform offers signature campaigns, Or an exchanger offers a signature campaign, Would you join their campaign without researching their platform? If you investigate any platform, What is the process? How do you check if they are good or bad?

Do you feel like they hired you?

When they accept your application, and you wear their signature, Do you feel like they hired you? If it sounds like a non-sense question, Here is why I am asking this: I noticed some 1xbit participants trying to defend their platform. Even there are no requirement on the campaign. I saw Chip-mixer participants doing discussion on Chip-mixer thread and most of them are Chip-Mixer Signature participants.

That's all.

There's  always a need for research before you apply for that project, i think that's always the basic. That way, you will have a lead if that project will highly succeed or not, if the goals will be reached or not. And once the campaign manager hire you, it only means that he believes you will be an asset to the team so you should give justice to it. Because in the end, if the project fails or succeeds, you will always be a part of the reasons why it happened so.

[lovesmayfamilis]

If we talk about the signature that I wear at the moment, I can say that I knew about the exchange aggregator Bestchange long before I found out about bitcoin. And I used it exactly as much as I found out, and this is a very long time ago. Therefore, the appearance of the company's signature on this forum was a huge surprise for me, moreover, I was very happy when I was accepted into this company.
Therefore, I can say that I never doubted for a moment whether I should worry about my avatar or not.