Minor Protection From Gambling

[dothebeats]

Biometric identification technology is indeed very effective, the system detects it in just seconds, I haven't heard of anyone who can fool the system. Too many gambling sites and minors will definitely find other solutions so they can gamble, the most to be considered is their connection and the role of parents who should monitor whither they access website, restrictions that must be increased.

Biometrics also has its exploits, not unless you're using retina or iris scanners for identification, but that technology in itself is extremely expensive and I doubt that your local law enforcement, or any other organization for that matter, will use it just to curb minors away from gambling. Ever heard of one guy recreating a politician's fingerprint from just mere pictures? Biometrics is a promising field for security enforcement, but it has a long way to go for it to be tightly secure.

[madnessteat]

Biometric identification technology is indeed very effective, the system detects it in just seconds, I haven't heard of anyone who can fool the system. Too many gambling sites and minors will definitely find other solutions so they can gamble, the most to be considered is their connection and the role of parents who should monitor whither they access website, restrictions that must be increased.

It should be understood that all the laws on the collection of personal data only benefit the states, but not ordinary citizens.

Just imagine what will happen when there will be a massive leak of biometric data of the users who provided it. This will be an emergency situation, because using this data you can sell property, take out loans, sign various contracts.

That is why I have always been against this initiative.

[Wakate]

This is a great move to prevent children that are less than 18 to participate in gambling activities which can have a diverse effect on there wellbeing. The rate at which students and under aged minors are engaging in gambling is vast and the government need to enforce a law or initiation strict rules that will limit them from jumping on gambling. Gambling has a vast effects and if caution is not taken, it could lead to addiction that might becomes difficult to regulate.

This step is going to create a wall of restrictions and prevent the rate at which under aged children activate their urge for gambling. The government are not the only one that will enable under aged ones to relinquish from gambling but parents too has their own roles to play to make this works.

[Oilacris]

What if the kid using a filter to make him looks like an adult and then the video he used to fake the biometric verification? I think it's kinda possible if the site only ask the biometric verification without ID. We're in 21st century and technology are improve really lot every year, anyone can use any tools that appeared in the google. There's nothing to stop this, except he's.

That cant be. That was only possible if you will be asked to upload your own selfie or video but this was real time as on what is stated. There will be no options for editing other than the capture button on the center. They are then going to compare it to the image shown in the i.d's, so there is no way that the kid can fake this out. This is a new kind of technology, means it is more intelligent than the previous ones.

My salute to the German country for implementing such a thing. I guess minors being involved in gambling is now rampant there and this is not good. That is why they are doing what they can to stop this problem. it's a big help for the parents.

Yes, the real-time verification process is unedited and cannot be filtered. I hope that countries that struggle with the same thing will also ask for a verification process to control the increasing number of minors getting involved in gambling. No matter how parents monitor their children, the exposure to gambling ads is everywhere on the internet so the government or gambling sites must also do their part to be responsible for solving this issue.

Yeah, with having the current technology advancement today then its really hard for your child not able to see these things no matter how strictly you would monitor out your kids or children which it wont really be assuring that they

wont really be seeing those things thats why i do agree into that real-time verification process at least on  where it could really lessen out the tendency of minor involvement with gambling.
With easy access and easy getting those cards from parents or does have money wont really be that a problem which make dealings even way more easier.

[Boristhecat]

So the minors are smart enough to fake their online identity? Really? This seems suspicious to me.
So they use their parent's debit/credit cards to gamble? Can't their parents view the transactions on their bank accounts? Can't they reverse unauthorized credit card transactions? If your kid is using your credit card to gamble, you are a lousy parent.
This new KYC regulation won't solve the problem. The real problem is the unregulated casinos that don't require ID verification. Who is going to stop those casinos from accepting underage gamblers? Another part of the problem is the aggressive advertising of casinos and sportsbooks.

Teenagers can use cryptocurrencies and buy any fake identity (or deal with adult acquaintances) on the black market. Therefore, it doesn’t matter if the casino is regulated or not, you correctly noted that the main task of raising children lies with the parents. Shifting this responsibility to the casino or the state will not lead to anything good.

[KTChampions]

This had been the main issue in online gambling.  Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.  Germany does tackle this issue seriously and recently German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM). had a deal with Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity for the age verification solution.[1]  

The German government is very inclined that it will help greatly in protecting minors because of its advanced technology.
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All this is complete crap. I don't know how blind you have to be to seriously discuss this. Everything goes to the fact that all people will be deprived of the right to anonymity. The fact that this is done under beautiful pretexts (the fight against pedophiles, the fight against drugs, the fight against terrorists, etc.) does not change anything - as a result, the rights of law-abiding citizens are taken away.

[Finestream]

What if the kid using a filter to make him looks like an adult and then the video he used to fake the biometric verification? I think it's kinda possible if the site only ask the biometric verification without ID. We're in 21st century and technology are improve really lot every year, anyone can use any tools that appeared in the google. There's nothing to stop this, except he's.

The problem with minors involving in gambling won't be easily solved if its only about biometric verification. They will surely find ways not to be caught and then play gambling like adults. I guess there is no easy way to combat this. Only the parents will be able to control their children and strictly prohibit them from the world of gambling. Once they mature and create their own income, only by then they are allowed to gamble.

[AmoreJaz]

What if the kid using a filter to make him looks like an adult and then the video he used to fake the biometric verification? I think it's kinda possible if the site only ask the biometric verification without ID. We're in 21st century and technology are improve really lot every year, anyone can use any tools that appeared in the google. There's nothing to stop this, except he's.

The problem with minors involving in gambling won't be easily solved if its only about biometric verification. They will surely find ways not to be caught and then play gambling like adults. I guess there is no easy way to combat this. Only the parents will be able to control their children and strictly prohibit them from the world of gambling. Once they mature and create their own income, only by then they are allowed to gamble.

this dilemma i believe is hard to fully resolved as these kids will always find a way how to go around the requirements of the site. at the end of the day, it is indeed the discipline that their parents instilled on them. because these days, with the gadgets that they have access to, it is now easy peasy to create their account in any gambling site. now, it depends on how they will take care of their business once the site asks them to complete the kyc requirements, if in case, the site has suspicions about the age of the player.

[Kasabus]

Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.

So the minors are smart enough to fake their online identity? Really? This seems suspicious to me.
So they use their parent's debit/credit cards to gamble? Can't their parents view the transactions on their bank accounts? Can't they reverse unauthorized credit card transactions? If your kid is using your credit card to gamble, you are a lousy parent.
This new KYC regulation won't solve the problem. The real problem is the unregulated casinos that don't require ID verification. Who is going to stop those casinos from accepting underage gamblers? Another part of the problem is the aggressive advertising of casinos and sportsbooks.

If the state would encourage to stop minors from gambling, they should not focus on the minors themselves but on the casinos that are very much aggressive on attracting players regardless if they are minors or not. The state should also provide some consequences if casinos will fail to fulfill their obligations as they should not be aiming for the minors' lives to be rekt in gambling. That way, this case will be slowly controlled.

[goaldigger]

What if the kid using a filter to make him looks like an adult and then the video he used to fake the biometric verification? I think it's kinda possible if the site only ask the biometric verification without ID. We're in 21st century and technology are improve really lot every year, anyone can use any tools that appeared in the google. There's nothing to stop this, except he's.

The problem with minors involving in gambling won't be easily solved if its only about biometric verification. They will surely find ways not to be caught and then play gambling like adults. I guess there is no easy way to combat this. Only the parents will be able to control their children and strictly prohibit them from the world of gambling. Once they mature and create their own income, only by then they are allowed to gamble.

The government must still do everything to prevent those minors getting into gambling because we know the risk of it. Even if this technology doesn’t work, at least the government shows their sincerity to protect minors, and this is not an easy task for them since Minors will have a lot of ways to gamble especially in crypto gambling. The parents can’t totally control their Children but giving them the right education about gambling or spending money, this can at least discourage those kids from spending that much since they value money and its importance.

[Vaculin]

We know there are casinos that suspect some users are minors but they are just allowing them because they make money out of it.

But its hard enough to trust a casino and then they are adding a 3rd party to scan the IDs. This time its not just the casino that have your data but also this Incode. Why the Germans will allow this, its all up to them.

That's right. Casinos are more concern on the money that they can gain out from their regular players than to think of the future of their players. So its definitely not only on the minors faults, but also on the casinos that are allowing this to happen. And i don't think this KYC verification will fully solve the problem. It will only worsen the situation as anonymity will not be given full consideration.

[Taskford]

We know there are casinos that suspect some users are minors but they are just allowing them because they make money out of it.

But its hard enough to trust a casino and then they are adding a 3rd party to scan the IDs. This time its not just the casino that have your data but also this Incode. Why the Germans will allow this, its all up to them.

That's right. Casinos are more concern on the money that they can gain out from their regular players than to think of the future of their players. So its definitely not only on the minors faults, but also on the casinos that are allowing this to happen. And i don't think this KYC verification will fully solve the problem. It will only worsen the situation as anonymity will not be given full consideration.

They are not doing business for just worrying about the welfare of the child they are here for money so we cannot expect some actions made by then because their main concern is how they can attract more gamblers so that the money flow on their casino will continue. But even if KYC will not fully solve the issue but for sure it will lessen the situation since not everyone would waste their time to get some fake ids nor techy enough and knows how to do this fake id to submit on the casino where they desired to play.

[coin-investor]

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

Maybe yes maybe no it's not yet implemented but if they can get a good success rate like at least 60% or more success rate or even more then it's worth it, it has been the common problem in a society now that everything is online, minors can access everything now, in the olden days its easy because casinos are land-based and they can easily implement detection, but online minors can easily manipulate because they are always online and they know a lot of tricks online, one proof is my nephew who is still a minor but already knows a lot of tricks online, because all the information are easily accessible, like bypassing websites with the use of a VPN.

[Renampun]

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But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

[1] https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/incodes-age-verification-approved-for-protecting-minors-in-germany/

definitely biometric identity is the most accurate to prevent minors from playing gambling using their parent's ID...

I am sure of this (biometric ID will be effective) because there are online transportation services in my country that require drivers to use biometrics to be able to access their accounts every day, the point is to prevent those who are not registered from misusing their identities and prevent other criminal acts such as robbery etc.

[Rengga Jati]

If a gambling platform requires KYC, comminky they will ask for picture of hinslef/herself holding ID. But that is KYC and ut is still pro and con about KYC requirement.
However, even if a gambling platform require KYC and ask for that kind of photo, we may ask about how perfect they can evaluate the data? How if they are fake one.
But once more, KYC doesn't guarantee that we can get legit gambling platform with high security. At least, we have tried to do that. How secure our ID data and How secure the gambling platform is.

[maydna]

I'm not sure if the technology can work properly because, without the support of every parent who wants to protect their children, they will be able to visit gambling sites and play gambling freely even though such technology exists. Minors are always concerned for their parents, so they don't do anything that could harm their mental health in the future. If parents are not included, it will not work well whatever the technology they use. But we can see what will happen later and hope that will protect minors from gambling addiction.

[goinmerry]

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

Then how these minors can top up their account at gambling sites? Surely, they can't easily access their parents' financial sources. For let's say they are using their allowance, what method they are using to fund their account as almost all payment methods require KYC?

About the initiative of the German government to control the minors, we aren't sure if that will be effective in the long run but it's a good start rather than doing nothing and just allowing minors to freely roam and gambled at gambling sites without parent's consent.

[adzino]

This had been the main issue in online gambling.  Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.  Germany does tackle this issue seriously and recently German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM). had a deal with Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity for the age verification solution.[1]  

The German government is very inclined that it will help greatly in protecting minors because of its advanced technology.

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Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity, has its age verification solution approved by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM).

‘Legal Certainty’ to Providers
The age verification solution provided by Incode Technologies verifies users against data from their ID cards, comparing their image on the card with a real-time selfie.

The technology facilitates the age verification process by providing guidelines to ensure the optimum scan of the ID card and photo of the user and once complete, the service performs tests to confirm authenticity and issues a score.

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

[1] https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/incodes-age-verification-approved-for-protecting-minors-in-germany/

If the minors steal IDs from their parents, doesn't that mean that their parents aren't actually monitoring them as they should? Shouldn't the parents be blamed for this and not the casino. It is the responsibility of the parents to know what their kids are doing.

Anyway, most casino will require them to hold their ID and take a selfie. They won't be able to do that. Initial verification might not require that, but they eventually will have to.

[TopT3ns]

I think when applying Biometric identification technology in gambling places, it will make your privacy known to many people and can make the company that develops this technology get all personal identities and maybe sell it on the black market, because so far as I know it was created. Digital currencies such as cryptocurrencies have the aim of keeping the wallet owner from being known to many people (anonymous) and when it is adopted to a gambling place it is very suitable because everyone can gamble without worrying about privacy.

[LodisMcguire]

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

Then how these minors can top up their account at gambling sites? Surely, they can't easily access their parents' financial sources. For let's say they are using their allowance, what method they are using to fund their account as almost all payment methods require KYC?

About the initiative of the German government to control the minors, we aren't sure if that will be effective in the long run but it's a good start rather than doing nothing and just allowing minors to freely roam and gambled at gambling sites without parent's consent.

The government already doing something about this minors problem and gambling site too have implemented the method to prevent this.
So,it depends on the individual now,the parents or adult around them should educate these minors to not involve themselves to any kind of gambling activities online or offline.