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June 18, 2022, 02:45:55 PM
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I don't think that with technology we will able to protect the minors from gambling who really want to do it. When I remember how it was when I was a kid, we couldn't be stopped by any age limitations. My friends and I invested so much time to circumvent technology that it became a game by itself. Who ever was able to find the first exploit or crack to access the 18+ content was the king in school. For a casino this is a big problem, because a few kids will gamble no matter what. Even with most kids not engaging in gambling below the age of 18, they know it's illegal and will follow the law, the casino needs to protect the minor. On the other side are the gamblers who don't want to share all their private information only to show that they are really 18. I think it's also the kids parents fault who gamble because they should supervise their kids. If the parents have no idea what the kids are doing online then it's hard to only play the parents. The best is to be open with our children and try and make them understand that gambling is risky and we can lose money with it.
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June 18, 2022, 03:00:37 PM
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Although the step to restrict minor gamblers is good but still they have lot of ways to submit fake identity and keep playing but as we have seen gambling is too risky and can lead to some other issues which is bad for teenagers as they develop more problems at young age.There should be certain more strict implications to stop them from gambling and avoid problems in their personal life.

The internet is a scary place, you wouldn't know until you know the intensity of the impact it can do on minors, that's why it is advisable not to allow them to use the internet except when they have a college assignment. You have seen that KYC is sometimes requested from casino but this is very cheap to buy from anyone, there are plenty of ways people buy KYC online to bye-pass any restriction, the agency really have a big job to do because I feel that a child that is below 18+ will gamble anytime they like, only with parents this fight can be successfull.

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June 18, 2022, 03:13:43 PM
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The issue of minors being involved in gambling is not really a news. It's been existing long time ago and until now, it isn't fully solved yet because the reasons stem to many factors. And some of these factors are beyond the control of the authorities such as disciplining the child, giving the right counsel, and good guidance of parents.

A lot of ways are actually made to save the lives of the youth. Of course, the government wants to preserve their innocence and let them have peaceful life where gamble could take away, most especially they are still in their young stage and phase in life. Unfortunately, there are still so many countermeasures that could be done to bypass most of the imposed methods to protect the minors.  This involves identity theft which is the usage of a card that's not really theirs, stealing their guardians card information, and asking other people such as friends to help them bypass the security.

As we know, technology is evolving and so are the ways to infiltrate systems. KYC could be a good band aid solution, but the problem must be addressed from its roots.
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June 18, 2022, 03:16:12 PM
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In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.
and if we blame the government, I think the government and some people or groups have made efforts to block online gambling sites.
and the problem is that because of the unregulated online internet, as well as the freedom, there are millions if not billions of IP addresses in this world, and it is impossible to block them all by the government.
so the most important role is for parents or the whole family to control each other and remind each other and also advise that online gambling is not good and dangerous.

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June 18, 2022, 05:26:59 PM
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In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.
and if we blame the government, I think the government and some people or groups have made efforts to block online gambling sites.
and the problem is that because of the unregulated online internet, as well as the freedom, there are millions if not billions of IP addresses in this world, and it is impossible to block them all by the government.
so the most important role is for parents or the whole family to control each other and remind each other and also advise that online gambling is not good and dangerous.
It's part of parenting on which it is really that needed for you to guide your children on the right path of things but same as you said that because of technology development where it is really that unavoidable for something to be seen even on unintentional kind of manner that's why it would really be that sensible that you would really be making your children to be supervised and be aware and letting them know and realized on what's the cons of gambling.We parents aren't really that perfect to monitor our child 24/7 which it is really that we do need those kind of steps at least.

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June 18, 2022, 05:31:52 PM
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Children are getting their hands on smartphone apps before they have gotten their first tooth. Kids will always have access to the internet, but what they don’t always know is how to use the internet safely. As parents, we must arm our children with the knowledge and skills necessary to stay safe online, but before doing so, we need to do our part by keeping an eye on our children online and remaining vigilant.

By being constantly on the lookout for signs of danger, we can help ensure that our children grow up feeling safe and secure, not scared and constantly wary of the world they live in. We can start by being aware of the warning signs and steps we should take if we have reason to believe our child has come into contact with inappropriate content online. It is our duty to keep our children safe. Don't trust anyone to do it for you.

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June 18, 2022, 05:57:45 PM
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But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

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Like any regulation imposed, there is no guaranteed possibility that it will totally wipe out minors who can access gambling websites but it can definitely lessen the number with the introduction of such technology. In comparison, before you enter any porn websites (which is also considered illegal for minors), only some terms and agreements stating that you must be 18 years old to access is required to press in order to proceed with the website.

Again, with this kind of introduction, any kind of help that caters to online gambling addiction (especially when minors are involved) are always welcomed. Though this may not completely avoid minors from entering this kind of addiction, expect that numbers and traffic would be lessened from now on.
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June 18, 2022, 10:08:26 PM
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In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.
That's easier said than done, unless you're a parent by yourself. Parenting is not that simple especially if your family have 24 hours internet access. With that said, you're living an above average life where almost everyone in the house has smartphone and laptop. Stricted internet sites is just so simple to access too for an above average kids. With that kind of life, parents are busy making money to make their kids live a good life. And this kind of family where kids act on their own and simply tries everything what can be done in the internet.

Ofc, even in the lower categories do something like this too, even just living an average life or even below where most poor guys act like betting their life for gambling.

The only thing that is possible is to avoid the kids getting influenced by the adults, where gambling cannot be seen in the premise and do other things instead.

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June 18, 2022, 11:13:17 PM
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To some extent this will make a positive response, due to the usage of biometrics. In what all way we keep them away from gambling, if they want they'll make a way and use it. This is how the present generation, because they're well aware of the technology and the ways. In other words, they knew better than us. Minor protection is a must, because if the kid deviates at his childhood then it is hard for him to concentrate on other things of life.

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June 18, 2022, 11:17:33 PM
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In my opinion, the right thing is that parents are more assertive and always supervise and also limit their children who are still underage when accessing the internet using smartphones and others, considering the rise of online gambling and technology that continues to develop making things easier.
That's easier said than done, unless you're a parent by yourself. Parenting is not that simple especially if your family have 24 hours internet access. With that said, you're living an above average life where almost everyone in the house has smartphone and laptop. Stricted internet sites is just so simple to access too for an above average kids. With that kind of life, parents are busy making money to make their kids live a good life. And this kind of family where kids act on their own and simply tries everything what can be done in the internet.

Ofc, even in the lower categories do something like this too, even just living an average life or even below where most poor guys act like betting their life for gambling.

The only thing that is possible is to avoid the kids getting influenced by the adults, where gambling cannot be seen in the premise and do other things instead.

Indeed, with the technology that we have today, it is too difficult to learn what your kids are browsing over the net. Also, if I may add, you can also instill the concept of how to take care of their money or financials. I know, it is too early for these kids to learn their financial aspect of life. But you can already introduce the basic things about money, how you earn your money, how can they save money. Because if you are open to them with such discussions, maybe, they will learn how to value their funds.
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June 18, 2022, 11:39:48 PM
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Children are getting their hands on smartphone apps before they have gotten their first tooth. Kids will always have access to the internet, but what they don’t always know is how to use the internet safely. As parents, we must arm our children with the knowledge and skills necessary to stay safe online, but before doing so, we need to do our part by keeping an eye on our children online and remaining vigilant.

By being constantly on the lookout for signs of danger, we can help ensure that our children grow up feeling safe and secure, not scared and constantly wary of the world they live in. We can start by being aware of the warning signs and steps we should take if we have reason to believe our child has come into contact with inappropriate content online. It is our duty to keep our children safe. Don't trust anyone to do it for you.

I think sometimes we as parents miss something that happens to our children when they use the internet and can't always control what they do on the internet, the safest thing is when parents can provide restrictions on accessing gambling or adult content on several platforms so that even though the child is searching on the internet, it is still safe because it cannot access sites that are not allowed. some iOS devices have implemented such a system so that the internet world will be safer when children use the device you have.

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June 19, 2022, 01:09:45 PM
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Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to  control the rate which minors  play gamble.

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June 19, 2022, 01:20:53 PM
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Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to  control the rate which minors  play gamble.

Actually, so far, I have not heard of many cases of discovery for children's gambling activities. But I'm sure it actually exists. The rise of promotions carried out on social media can certainly attract new registrants and maybe children. We don't blame gambling sites, but nowadays many artists offer sites to add money. This gambling site is like sloot, there is no filter on social media.
Indeed, some credible gambling sites have filters through KYC so the possibility of children joining is quite difficult. But for unregistered sites we and the government can't control it. The best control is the supervision of their family.

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June 19, 2022, 01:51:42 PM
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Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to  control the rate which minors  play gamble.
KYC has pros and cons, some gamblers agree with it but the majority of gamblers definitely don't want that. the impact of gambling sites that do not require KYC is a minor that will definitely play on the site. the times are getting more sophisticated, in my city, there are still many minors who are already playing gambling with a capital of hundreds of bucks, besides using their parents' identities, the minors must also use their parents' money to play gambling.

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June 19, 2022, 02:24:25 PM
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Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to  control the rate which minors  play gamble.

In fact, a warning label is quite enough. Why should casinos invent sophisticated KYC? They can still be bypassed one way or another. Parents should be involved in the upbringing of children and they should ensure that children do not do what is forbidden/harmful, and not outside organizations. In general, I noticed from all these measures that supposedly protect children there is almost no benefit, and there is a lot of harm.
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In fact, a warning label is quite enough. Why should casinos invent sophisticated KYC? They can still be bypassed one way or another.
Maybe the KYC that is required for protection is not complete because KYC verification can be improved with live face verification (selfie) such as the KYC process on Binance and on other exchanges. Strict KYC process will minimize fake user accounts because it will be difficult to pass the steps without real identity and face verification.

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Parents should be involved in the upbringing of children and they should ensure that children do not do what is forbidden/harmful, and not outside organizations. In general, I noticed from all these measures that supposedly protect children there is almost no benefit, and there is a lot of harm.
However, the involvement of parents in monitoring children's activities must be prioritized because in the era of technology that allows children to access adult activities because it is easy to break into access to adult search categories on search engines, I think the mobile or desktop device used must activate synchronization to an email address to save everything from browser activity.

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June 19, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
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Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to  control the rate which minors  play gamble.
KYC has pros and cons, some gamblers agree with it but the majority of gamblers definitely don't want that. the impact of gambling sites that do not require KYC is a minor that will definitely play on the site. the times are getting more sophisticated, in my city, there are still many minors who are already playing gambling with a capital of hundreds of bucks, besides using their parents' identities, the minors must also use their parents' money to play gambling.

I started gambling as a child. At that time the Internet was very poorly developed and did not allow to play gambling, so we played various card games with friends on the street. Just as now we played for money as it increases the excitement. So even if we completely ban gambling it is not the fact that children will not find opportunities to play the same poker.

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June 19, 2022, 07:48:44 PM
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Many casino are aware that minors do play bet with their company but they don't really care because what they need is money. When you login into there site they will only tell you gambling is for 18+, no strict verification to access users. It will be good for casino to make verification requirements strict to  control the rate which minors  play gamble.
KYC has pros and cons, some gamblers agree with it but the majority of gamblers definitely don't want that. the impact of gambling sites that do not require KYC is a minor that will definitely play on the site. the times are getting more sophisticated, in my city, there are still many minors who are already playing gambling with a capital of hundreds of bucks, besides using their parents' identities, the minors must also use their parents' money to play gambling.

I started gambling as a child. At that time the Internet was very poorly developed and did not allow to play gambling, so we played various card games with friends on the street. Just as now we played for money as it increases the excitement. So even if we completely ban gambling it is not the fact that children will not find opportunities to play the same poker.

i can say, sometimes it is also the environment where you were brought up. if gambling game is easily accessible once you get out of your door, definitely, you will try it as a kid. even if your parents are not into gambling, but your peers are playing some sort of gambling games, you will try and learn from them. now, it is your upbringing how you will keep up on these games, are you going to seriously take this or just play occasionally? and you can bring this up until you grow old if you go deep in these games. that is, if your parents don't know about it, or will not strictly tell you to stop on this habit.

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I continue to gamble, but only online. I don't gamble daily and can control myself and my finances. Also, I don't gamble to win. Rather, I gamble just for fun. My parents don't make decisions in my life for a long time and I don't see any problem with gambling as it helps me to get away from work and worries and have a good time paying a little money for it. 

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This had been the main issue in online gambling.  Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.  Germany does tackle this issue seriously and recently German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM). had a deal with Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity for the age verification solution.[1]  

The German government is very inclined that it will help greatly in protecting minors because of its advanced technology.



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Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity, has its age verification solution approved by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM).

‘Legal Certainty’ to Providers
The age verification solution provided by Incode Technologies verifies users against data from their ID cards, comparing their image on the card with a real-time selfie.

The technology facilitates the age verification process by providing guidelines to ensure the optimum scan of the ID card and photo of the user and once complete, the service performs tests to confirm authenticity and issues a score.


But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  


[1] https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/incodes-age-verification-approved-for-protecting-minors-in-germany/
The government is playing it's own role in protecting her minors from involving in gambling by providing such age verification  tech as they understand the negative effect underage gambling can have on children so it therefore boils down to the parents to act in their own sphere by in assisting the effort of the government by preventing their underage children from easily having access to be it their cards or other gadgets they probably use in accessing these gambling sites.

Just like in the  card aspect, they can act as watchdogs by taking time to maybe doing a weekly review of what their card might have been used for by their children and if they find a trace relating to gambling usuage which wasn't done by them (Adult) then some questions could be raised to the child/children (minor) for such utility.
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