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June 28, 2022, 01:24:12 PM
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Using biometric technology for age verification looks pretty good, this could be a good solution to reduce access to gambling sites by minors.
But even so, those (minors) who already know about gambling sites will do everything they can to be able to open them again.
Actually, a very important role lies with parents, as parents must be able to keep their children from being connected to any gambling sites. If parents care about their children, then parents will be the first protection from gambling sites.
Although with this technology, I'm not sure this will prevent the protection of children under their age, they can still enter because various ways will be done because the internet is unavoidable, it's quite easy for children to access it.

In fact, I agree with you how important the role of parents is, if you don't want this to happen then parents must be vigilant, even though the internet is now free, they should be able to check it on a scale this will help their children remain a protection that is not wild, therefore I have The principle is that I will continue to watch over my child when he is a child, when he is an adult it will become his own care.

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June 28, 2022, 01:52:20 PM
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Although with this technology, I'm not sure this will prevent the protection of children under their age, they can still enter because various ways will be done because the internet is unavoidable, it's quite easy for children to access it.

In fact, I agree with you how important the role of parents is, if you don't want this to happen then parents must be vigilant, even though the internet is now free, they should be able to check it on a scale this will help their children remain a protection that is not wild, therefore I have The principle is that I will continue to watch over my child when he is a child, when he is an adult it will become his own care.

It seems to me that the degree of struggle of those who are trying to protect children/adults from something bad is already very reminiscent of the thesis "let's put everyone in a cage for their own safety." It is probably worth moving from preventing problems to correcting their consequences (for example, punishing parents if their children are involved in gambling), then people will develop a sense of responsibility and not infantilism as it is now.
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June 28, 2022, 02:23:03 PM
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In fact, I agree with you how important the role of parents is, if you don't want this to happen then parents must be vigilant, even though the internet is now free, they should be able to check it on a scale this will help their children remain a protection that is not wild, therefore I have The principle is that I will continue to watch over my child when he is a child, when he is an adult it will become his own care.
On the other hand, as parents, we could be a perfect example to our kids. As to happen that kids are also encouraged to try gambling for this is what they saw from their parents, some had also been taught by them. But of course, the constant guidance of the parents helps to prevent this unwanted thing to happen, the earlier we stop them from having an interest in gambling and educate them is way better not to get into the point of addiction because it is really hard to stop.

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June 28, 2022, 02:38:29 PM
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On the other hand, as parents, we could be a perfect example to our kids. As to happen that kids are also encouraged to try gambling for this is what they saw from their parents, some had also been taught by them. But of course, the constant guidance of the parents helps to prevent this unwanted thing to happen, the earlier we stop them from having an interest in gambling and educate them is way better not to get into the point of addiction because it is really hard to stop.
Kids have an interest on gambling because they're want to double or triple their money, you can't stop them about interest on gambling since you wouldn't have any solution to double or triple their money. When you're trying to force them to stop gambling, then they will gamble behind you and perhaps would make a worse problem in the future. Education is the key and it's advice able to let professional taking care a kid.

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June 28, 2022, 05:52:17 PM
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Parents with minors should either stop gambling or keep their devices out of the reach of their kids. This to me is the best protection minors can get from gambling.  Also they have a role to play in talking to their kids about the inherent dangers of gambling addiction. That is responsible parenting. Where a parent has failed in this role then this technology which I have doubts about can come into play. I'd like to see the statistics of how effective this technology is in six(6) months.

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June 28, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
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Parents with minors should either stop gambling or keep their devices out of the reach of their kids. This to me is the best protection minors can get from gambling.  Also they have a role to play in talking to their kids about the inherent dangers of gambling addiction. That is responsible parenting. Where a parent has failed in this role then this technology which I have doubts about can come into play. I'd like to see the statistics of how effective this technology is in six(6) months.

The issue is that technology like this is useless to protect kids from early gambling, after all even if the technology was 100% effective and no minor could gamble at any casino around the world, what can stop a minor from buying a pack of playing cards and begin to play poker, blackjack, baccarat or any other gambling game played with those cards and make some bets among them? There is no way to protect minors from that and as such all of those technological measures are a waste of time against someone which is completely determined to gamble.
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June 28, 2022, 07:16:59 PM
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Parents with minors should either stop gambling or keep their devices out of the reach of their kids. This to me is the best protection minors can get from gambling.  Also they have a role to play in talking to their kids about the inherent dangers of gambling addiction. That is responsible parenting. Where a parent has failed in this role then this technology which I have doubts about can come into play. I'd like to see the statistics of how effective this technology is in six(6) months.

The issue is that technology like this is useless to protect kids from early gambling, after all even if the technology was 100% effective and no minor could gamble at any casino around the world, what can stop a minor from buying a pack of playing cards and begin to play poker, blackjack, baccarat or any other gambling game played with those cards and make some bets among them? There is no way to protect minors from that and as such all of those technological measures are a waste of time against someone which is completely determined to gamble.
There's a lot of ways and methods on which someone could able to deal up with gambling no matter how strict those prohibitions are thats why i do see that the most effective would really be totally

starting with parenting on which on this area will really be that recommendable on doing so since it will open the eyes or awareness of your children on early times on whats gambling and whats the possible things that could happen specially when you are already on that addiction mode and if they do find out to be that awful situations then its just common sense that they would avoid it out.

Its true that on the technology that we do have today then getting of it 100% is impossible.If you wanted to gamble then there is hundreds of ways on doing it.
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June 28, 2022, 07:55:14 PM
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This had been the main issue in online gambling.  Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.  Germany does tackle this issue seriously and recently German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM). had a deal with Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity for the age verification solution.[1]  

The German government is very inclined that it will help greatly in protecting minors because of its advanced technology.

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Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity, has its age verification solution approved by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM).

‘Legal Certainty’ to Providers
The age verification solution provided by Incode Technologies verifies users against data from their ID cards, comparing their image on the card with a real-time selfie.

The technology facilitates the age verification process by providing guidelines to ensure the optimum scan of the ID card and photo of the user and once complete, the service performs tests to confirm authenticity and issues a score.


But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  


[1] https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/incodes-age-verification-approved-for-protecting-minors-in-germany/

There's already a lot of different software solutions out there which can verify identity documents of players, what Incode Technologies is offering doesn't seem that unique. Most sites these days require a scan of an identity document along with some sort of utility or banking bill, which tends to eliminate most younger people from playing as it's unlikely they'll have easy access to both along with a funded bank account. Any extra steps to verify age are obviously helpful, but I doubt this company is unique in being the only one permitted to offer age verification services. It's a one off documentation verification service, it's not going to offer any protection at all for minors using their parents pre-authorized accounts.

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June 28, 2022, 08:02:04 PM
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It looks like it will be a never ending job as people or minors who can exploit it will surely be able to find other ways to get into the casino. The government should try hard to limit their movement by enacting rules and it is hoped that parents can also supervise their children using the internet properly. If it is about minors accessing the internet, it will relate to parents who have to supervise them and take responsibility for their children.
It is not all the time that parents can be with their children. You know these days, the kids have been too intelligent because of modern technology and they know how to use it.
What's worse is if they know how to use it in a bad way and that's the worry not just from the government but also from the parents. The supervision at all times is impossible to happen.

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These kids can trick their parents in doing so.

Maybe they'll say that it's a sort of verification for their school or any legitimate place they're going and then, as busy parents are. They'll just do whatever their kids ask them to do.

And that's the bad side of being busy as a parent.

Bottomline, the impact would be on their kids. If they can't look after their kids, the likelihood of getting into this industry at early age is always there. The responsibility is with the parents. If they can't take care of their kids, at least, instill them the discipline and the value of money. Let us all admit that as parents, we can't watch them 24/7, so the influence is always there.
I can't blame those parents that can't look out for their kids at all times because of them being busy to work or business.

We can't truly watch them at all times but taking care of them while we're with them is a must. Teaching values is a must, we as parents are good and ok to gamble because we earn from our own.

But our kids, they're not good in being open onto this type of activity because we know what potential effect can get them.



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Indeed, today's children understand better how to use multiple devices such as smartphones, tabs, or laptops and computers. But without parental supervision, they can still fall into the negative side of the internet and over time, they can become addicted. This happens when parents cannot provide supervision to their children and are more concerned with themselves. Indeed, parents do not provide supervision all the time. Still, parents can provide understanding to their children about the dangers of accessing the internet if they do not have self-control.



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On the other hand, as parents, we could be a perfect example to our kids. As to happen that kids are also encouraged to try gambling for this is what they saw from their parents, some had also been taught by them. But of course, the constant guidance of the parents helps to prevent this unwanted thing to happen, the earlier we stop them from having an interest in gambling and educate them is way better not to get into the point of addiction because it is really hard to stop.
Actually, in this case I slightly disagree with you because even though children cannot be separated from gambling because when they get older they will definitely know it but teaching gambling is of course not a good thing because it is compared to teaching. providing knowledge and an overview of gambling is much better because it is clearly taught that this will also lead children in a more negative direction

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June 29, 2022, 07:45:37 AM
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I don't quite agree with you. We explain to children many things they should stay away from, even if they don't understand their dangers because of their age. For example, after parents tell a child about the dangers of electric current, he stays away from the electrical outlet. So if you do not want your child to gamble, you can educate him in this way. The child's behavior and passions depend more on his parents.

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June 29, 2022, 10:19:48 AM
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On the other hand, as parents, we could be a perfect example to our kids. As to happen that kids are also encouraged to try gambling for this is what they saw from their parents, some had also been taught by them. But of course, the constant guidance of the parents helps to prevent this unwanted thing to happen, the earlier we stop them from having an interest in gambling and educate them is way better not to get into the point of addiction because it is really hard to stop.
Actually, in this case I slightly disagree with you because even though children cannot be separated from gambling because when they get older they will definitely know it but teaching gambling is of course not a good thing because it is compared to teaching. providing knowledge and an overview of gambling is much better because it is clearly taught that this will also lead children in a more negative direction
Parental guidance will certainly be able to prevent children from doing negative things and can keep them from trying.
But if parents cannot provide supervision to their children, sooner or later, children can be affected and in the end, they will try to play gambling too.
That is why we as parents should pay more attention to our children, especially when they use the internet on their cell phones.
The better we supervise our children, the more they will not try to play gambling because they know the risks.
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No matter how hard you try to keep an eye on your children, they will still seek the unknown. You will not be able to be with them 27/7, which means at a time when you will not be around, they will be able to test what gambling is like from personal experience. So if you don't want your children to gamble you should explain to them the principle of casino games and tell them about the probabilities of certain events and why the casino always has an advantage over the player.

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Parents with minors should either stop gambling or keep their devices out of the reach of their kids. This to me is the best protection minors can get from gambling.  Also they have a role to play in talking to their kids about the inherent dangers of gambling addiction. That is responsible parenting. Where a parent has failed in this role then this technology which I have doubts about can come into play. I'd like to see the statistics of how effective this technology is in six(6) months.


Also for the minor at the very young age it is an ideal thing to educate them already about dos and don't also at the same time is the lesson came in the house first if the minor see that the elder are playing gambling they might think that this is normal in the reality it is not, the guidance is came from the house, also today most of the children have their own gadgets or they borrow they gadgets from their parents which is connected mostly their cards and other form of payment that the child might makes a misclick and no one knows this could possible happen.

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June 29, 2022, 02:29:02 PM
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Parents with minors should either stop gambling or keep their devices out of the reach of their kids. This to me is the best protection minors can get from gambling.  Also they have a role to play in talking to their kids about the inherent dangers of gambling addiction. That is responsible parenting. Where a parent has failed in this role then this technology which I have doubts about can come into play. I'd like to see the statistics of how effective this technology is in six(6) months.


Also for the minor at the very young age it is an ideal thing to educate them already about dos and don't also at the same time is the lesson came in the house first if the minor see that the elder are playing gambling they might think that this is normal in the reality it is not, the guidance is came from the house, also today most of the children have their own gadgets or they borrow they gadgets from their parents which is connected mostly their cards and other form of payment that the child might makes a misclick and no one knows this could possible happen.

Sometimes there environment contributes on how they take action om this since evwn if there parents warned them about the possible risk still their are childrens will get involve on this kind of activities. That's why in some other case KYC should implemented on all casino so that they can verify the minors playing gambling at early stage of their life.

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June 29, 2022, 07:32:30 PM
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I don't quite agree with you. We explain to children many things they should stay away from, even if they don't understand their dangers because of their age. For example, after parents tell a child about the dangers of electric current, he stays away from the electrical outlet. So if you do not want your child to gamble, you can educate him in this way. The child's behavior and passions depend more on his parents.
But at least providing more knowledge about gambling and the effects of gambling is definitely better than teaching children to gamble as directed by @Rufsilf in my previous quote.
Giving knowledge about what gambling is and what the worst effects are and how to avoid it or do it doesn't seem too much of a problem because indeed when the child grows up they also know how important such things are so they can distinguish what is good for him and what is not.
As for keeping them away from gambling, it is clear that this is very unlikely because when they grow up, especially when they are in a transition phase and always want to try something new, they will sooner or later find out, so that instead of them knowing for themselves and trying it firsthand, why don't we tell them? course from the start. As for the decision of the child to want to gamble or not when he grows up, it is his choice because we cannot also restrain children from doing something when they are adults.

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June 29, 2022, 08:35:50 PM
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This is true and I personally experienced it as a growing child. I have a father that’s already quit on gambling but witness him doing it when I was a child before he finally stop, I become curious on what is it and entertained at the same time because I saw that he manage to grow his money by just playing around. And then I personally try it and suffer loses and that time I realized that gambling is not easy. After that, I’m not that much excited in gambling unlike before that I only knew that I can grow my money by just playing it without even thinking about the risk involved.
Are you still actively gambling and your dad knows it?
I think if he finds out then he will warn you to stop because he has reason and experience to quit gambling. Even if you are not very passionate about gambling but the location around you may not completely stop gambling and you are still playing small slots in gambling. I think you should follow your father's decision from an early age to stop gambling, because it will be difficult to leave gambling addiction if you are used to gambling due to influences from around.

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June 29, 2022, 09:41:04 PM
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Parents with minors should either stop gambling or keep their devices out of the reach of their kids. This to me is the best protection minors can get from gambling.  Also they have a role to play in talking to their kids about the inherent dangers of gambling addiction. That is responsible parenting. Where a parent has failed in this role then this technology which I have doubts about can come into play. I'd like to see the statistics of how effective this technology is in six(6) months.


Also for the minor at the very young age it is an ideal thing to educate them already about dos and don't also at the same time is the lesson came in the house first if the minor see that the elder are playing gambling they might think that this is normal in the reality it is not, the guidance is came from the house, also today most of the children have their own gadgets or they borrow they gadgets from their parents which is connected mostly their cards and other form of payment that the child might makes a misclick and no one knows this could possible happen.

This I think is the dilemma of most parents in today's generation.
Because of the access of their kids to different gadgets.
You can't tell them not to use it because it is now mainly use for school purposes.
So what they can do is indeed educate them about gambling and the possible impact of this in their lives.
As you can't always look after them, you need to teach them about financial aspect or other related values to avoid this activity at early age.
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