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August 12, 2022, 09:14:21 AM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
If you open a scam accusations against a gambling site and if your accusation legit and if you can show valid abidance then it can ruin reputation of that casino site. and this will hinder them from getting new potential gamblers. And it can prompt many gamblers to stop using the site who see that scam thread. But we cannot guarantee that a scam thread can destroy the site completely

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August 12, 2022, 11:01:08 AM
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The reputation of a casino can be quite good but if they mismanage a case that should be enough to raise great doubts about their reputation going forward.

Now there are many false accusations out there and there are many issues a casino may have which have nothing to do with their reputation, like the speed of their customer service or their withdrawal speed, but once a casino is confirmed to be on the wrong and they do not want to fulfill their obligations that should be enough to negate their previous positive reputation, as they are showing they should not be trusted anymore.
An example of mismanaging a case is being late in providing an answer or realizing that a member has a strange case that causes members to complain about their ANN. We have often seen this happen in many casinos and lead to a decline in the reputation of a casino. But actually if it's about the delay in providing an answer or solution, it could be because there is a queue in dealing with every problem that has occurred at the casino. And this should be realized by the casino to fix their system in dealing with each member's problems.

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August 12, 2022, 12:17:53 PM
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Even if how reputable casino they are and if they have un resolve issue which we see valid we still need to be careful on them since one issue didn't solve faster as it should be might lead for more problems in future. We should look only on how big the casino is maybe we should look also on how they handle the issue of their costumer since maybe in future we will encounter that to we can assure that we are in good casino with good support and will not fall on bad support ones because this is totally stressful to us.

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August 13, 2022, 02:50:55 AM
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But for me personally, such a case is almost impossible if the user is careful, meaning there will always be rules in most things in the casino concerned, so if such a case were to occur I think there would be a definite source of rules that might be overlooked. Because in the past there were incidents like that but in the end there were rules that were not understood by the users themselves, so cases like this were a kind of carelessness.

I also agree, that once the casino is very keen on their reputation, they will always solve any accusation asap because they don't want their perfect reputation to be tarnished.  If the case is left "unsolved" or felt ignored there might probably be a problem with the accusation. And the accuser isn't telling the whole truth about the story.

Business that gives them good source of income, they will not ruin it just by not acting the right way, if they are really missing something and they see that there's an urgency it will be accommodated to insure the gambler that they are in good hands, but if they see something and they've got some evidence to delay the process, they will also update the concern gambler and try to work with him.

Reputations can hurt the entire business and that's the deal where casino owners are very focused. They don't want
to lose their respected brand for not solving a case that they can look deeper.
True, for a casino that is being profitable it makes no sense to sacrifice it all over a small dispute, not only that I am sure that even when they know they are on the right but they believe that a particular case may bring them some bad reviews they may even decide to pay just to protect their reputation from vicious attacks.

Only casinos that are unprofitable, have long term cash issues, debts or immoral owners will consider sacrificing everything just to get some additional dollars in their accounts.
Yes, this tends to get a bit tricky, because the so-called "Devil's Advocates" always come out, which are very toxic and tend to tarnish any effort of a site or to attack a company, within which I have seen many examples here inside the casino, and they are very annoying, but a minor problem has to be dealt with quickly and not let it move forward and try to fix it, because otherwise as an issue is left open it gets worse and worse, so one of the things that should be taking care of the casinos is that, under which, reputation should not be risked for anything in the world, which is so difficult to obtain.

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August 13, 2022, 03:01:26 AM
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Unfortunately those bad losers or people who think they are smarter than the casino who have opened business up just to take your money if you play in the long term start blaming senseless false accusations against even extremely reputable casinos who pay sometimes even near a million dollars on just bonus they give at a certain time of the year,well most likely that happens only in Christmas time but still I mean these sore losers can't accept the fact that they lost money they could not afford to lose and end up blaming the casino for that coming up with a lot of made up stories.

This is the harsh truth that can be said about the ugly behavior of other gamblers. Maybe those types of gamblers are not suited to this type of online gambling industry. Because first of all, the casino owner did not force us to enter and gamble in his casino. Second, the casino owner did not dictate to us to enter a large amount in his gambling business, instead, we decided to do it, so no one should be blamed if we win or lose the money we entered in online gambling but no one else.

Even if how reputable casino they are and if they have un resolve issue which we see valid we still need to be careful on them since one issue didn't solve faster as it should be might lead for more problems in future. We should look only on how big the casino is maybe we should look also on how they handle the issue of their costumer since maybe in future we will encounter that to we can assure that we are in good casino with good support and will not fall on bad support ones because this is totally stressful to us.

It's true what you mentioned my friend, for us gamblers we feel relieved and we become complacent when a problem issue that we approach their customer support is resolved immediately, it can raise our confidence in a game, which can be promoted We have told this to our other friends who also love gambling. It's just that other casinos don't resolve it immediately and that's the worrying thing that can lead to the avoidance and transfer of other gamblers to other casinos that have a better system and trend than they have.


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August 13, 2022, 03:30:16 AM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
sometimes this is the problem , if the casino is well trusted  a single case with even valid proofs won't harm their reputation , but I still believe in our community that is fair , there will still a good reputation member that will go through the issue and will sooner back up the claims ,  and with these kind of issues in the past? i believe that eventually the site will go to agreement with the concern players and they will settle the problem , but this needs to be broadcasted first and find support before the team find answer for the complains .

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Unfortunately those bad losers or people who think they are smarter than the casino who have opened business up just to take your money if you play in the long term start blaming senseless false accusations against even extremely reputable casinos who pay sometimes even near a million dollars on just bonus they give at a certain time of the year,well most likely that happens only in Christmas time but still I mean these sore losers can't accept the fact that they lost money they could not afford to lose and end up blaming the casino for that coming up with a lot of made up stories.

This is the harsh truth that can be said about the ugly behavior of other gamblers. Maybe those types of gamblers are not suited to this type of online gambling industry. Because first of all, the casino owner did not force us to enter and gamble in his casino. Second, the casino owner did not dictate to us to enter a large amount in his gambling business, instead, we decided to do it, so no one should be blamed if we win or lose the money we entered in online gambling but no one else.


all risks are your own responsibility. Online casinos are easier to access, without the need for any identification cards. win or lose the casino owner will also benefit. every gambler does have a different point of view, some tend to be aggressive and when they lose they always blame the casino system and some are aware that their luck has not yet appeared. Online gambling is a very simple gambling and can be played anywhere.
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August 13, 2022, 03:39:48 PM
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Unfortunately those bad losers or people who think they are smarter than the casino who have opened business up just to take your money if you play in the long term start blaming senseless false accusations against even extremely reputable casinos who pay sometimes even near a million dollars on just bonus they give at a certain time of the year,well most likely that happens only in Christmas time but still I mean these sore losers can't accept the fact that they lost money they could not afford to lose and end up blaming the casino for that coming up with a lot of made up stories.

This is the harsh truth that can be said about the ugly behavior of other gamblers. Maybe those types of gamblers are not suited to this type of online gambling industry. Because first of all, the casino owner did not force us to enter and gamble in his casino. Second, the casino owner did not dictate to us to enter a large amount in his gambling business, instead, we decided to do it, so no one should be blamed if we win or lose the money we entered in online gambling but no one else.


all risks are your own responsibility. Online casinos are easier to access, without the need for any identification cards. win or lose the casino owner will also benefit. every gambler does have a different point of view, some tend to be aggressive and when they lose they always blame the casino system and some are aware that their luck has not yet appeared. Online gambling is a very simple gambling and can be played anywhere.

Indeed right, all the risk should be shouldered by the gambler, it is your responsibilities to take care of your money. Though there are

cases that scam site just do something un-explainable and leave the gambler to a bad position, another part of the risk aside from the actual

risk during your game/bet. End of the day, you as gambler will blame yourself whatever outcome you experienced.
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August 13, 2022, 04:07:57 PM
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sometimes this is the problem , if the casino is well trusted  a single case with even valid proofs won't harm their reputation , but I still believe in our community that is fair , there will still a good reputation member that will go through the issue and will sooner back up the claims ,  and with these kind of issues in the past? i believe that eventually the site will go to agreement with the concern players and they will settle the problem , but this needs to be broadcasted first and find support before the team find answer for the complains .
Currently there's around 100 active DT1 members with 600-800 DT2 members on this forum, I don't think there's no any DT members wouldn't following the accusations since that's their volunteer job become a DT members. As the @OP said the accusation is legit, I believe the casino will get negative tag and flag if the casino doesn't have any intention to solve it or just giving a promise without any realization.

Even the casino have done 1000+ good thing and gained the trust, but they can't resolve 1 bad thing, they're not trustworthy anymore.

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August 13, 2022, 07:50:37 PM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

I would also keep in mind the answers and explanations given by the casino, besides the evidence and information provided by the costumer.

For example, I have seen cases of services which have an extremely good feedback by thousands of people but a few which claimed to lose thousands of dollars. The costumer indeed provides proof of the transaction, chats, ticket, blockchain addresses, etc. However, the service managers reply that the money transfered had an ilicit origin and additional steps were needed for them to release it.

I believe if the people behind the service/casino provide a valid reason for funds to be frozen and there is some way for the community to deep into it to certain level, then there should not be problem, on the other hand, if they avoid giving reasonable/valid information, then trust should be questioned.




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August 13, 2022, 08:37:10 PM
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Even the casino have done 1000+ good thing and gained the trust, but they can't resolve 1 bad thing, they're not trustworthy anymore.
I would also say that they are not trustworthy anymore since they didn't even resolve 1 scam accusations that is not just a scam accusation but a legit one. That's how a casino will start losing some of their gamblers if they didn't resolve 1 problem though as I have said that they will lose some of their gamblers because of that but still there's people who will gamble there even though there's one bad situation that a casino is in and I am sure that person will also stop gambling in that casino.

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August 13, 2022, 09:13:10 PM
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Even the casino have done 1000+ good thing and gained the trust, but they can't resolve 1 bad thing, they're not trustworthy anymore.
I would also say that they are not trustworthy anymore since they didn't even resolve 1 scam accusations that is not just a scam accusation but a legit one. That's how a casino will start losing some of their gamblers if they didn't resolve 1 problem though as I have said that they will lose some of their gamblers because of that but still there's people who will gamble there even though there's one bad situation that a casino is in and I am sure that person will also stop gambling in that casino.

A single scam accusation could ruin the entire good record of a casino site but to be honest, it will be hard to pursue that single complaint despite having proof and evidence because people will always defend and speak out for the reputable site. But it's still important to call out the attention of the accused site on this forum so they would be urged to solve and fix their issue.
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August 13, 2022, 09:25:55 PM
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Even the casino have done 1000+ good thing and gained the trust, but they can't resolve 1 bad thing, they're not trustworthy anymore.
I would also say that they are not trustworthy anymore since they didn't even resolve 1 scam accusations that is not just a scam accusation but a legit one. That's how a casino will start losing some of their gamblers if they didn't resolve 1 problem though as I have said that they will lose some of their gamblers because of that but still there's people who will gamble there even though there's one bad situation that a casino is in and I am sure that person will also stop gambling in that casino.

A single scam accusation could ruin the entire good record of a casino site but to be honest, it will be hard to pursue that single complaint despite having proof and evidence because people will always defend and speak out for the reputable site. But it's still important to call out the attention of the accused site on this forum so they would be urged to solve and fix their issue.

Not really, since this single scam accusation can be debunked by the users who have a positive experience with the Casino.  Readers will always take the side of the majority when looking at the credibility of a Casino.  Besides reputable Casino will always fix their error so if ever a reputable casino leave a single case like that, I am sure they will release a statement why they decided not to process the request or case of the single "victim".

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August 13, 2022, 09:33:57 PM
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Even the casino have done 1000+ good thing and gained the trust, but they can't resolve 1 bad thing, they're not trustworthy anymore.
I would also say that they are not trustworthy anymore since they didn't even resolve 1 scam accusations that is not just a scam accusation but a legit one. That's how a casino will start losing some of their gamblers if they didn't resolve 1 problem though as I have said that they will lose some of their gamblers because of that but still there's people who will gamble there even though there's one bad situation that a casino is in and I am sure that person will also stop gambling in that casino.

A single scam accusation could ruin the entire good record of a casino site but to be honest, it will be hard to pursue that single complaint despite having proof and evidence because people will always defend and speak out for the reputable site. But it's still important to call out the attention of the accused site on this forum so they would be urged to solve and fix their issue.

It could take a huge hit on their reputation, but I guess they will still continue and remain in the competition. And it's really up to them if they suffer from it, I mean will there be exodus of players from their platform and move out to other casino's because of their reputation? Or the players will remain with them since they haven't experience that or maybe the accusations is not true? just some random guy with no proofs or with proofs but it is obvious that he is abusing the casinos or has violated their TOS? Or the casino was found guilty and yet still insist that they are innocent, gets a red flag, and yet people still gamble with them?
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August 13, 2022, 09:34:57 PM
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Not really, since this single scam accusation can be debunked by the users who have a positive experience with the Casino.  Readers will always take the side of the majority when looking at the credibility of a Casino.  Besides reputable Casino will always fix their error so if ever a reputable casino leave a single case like that, I am sure they will release a statement why they decided not to process the request or case of the single "victim".
I think it depends on the situation and the casino. If the casino decided not to resolve the issue then 1 scam accusations can ruin the casino even if the casino has too many good things that many people see. The other is a casino will find way to fix the issue until it is resolved. I can't remember all the details but there is a reputable casino and a gambler who won huge amount waitied to get paid after requesting a withdrawal but the casino haven't paid yet so the gambler start a scam accusation about not getting paid for days and later the gambler return and updated the thread to resolved. So I would say that it depends on the situation, even if a reputable and legit casino have accusation doesn't always mean it will ruin them that is why I said it depends on rhe situation and remain running as it is before.

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August 13, 2022, 09:36:43 PM
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Even the casino have done 1000+ good thing and gained the trust, but they can't resolve 1 bad thing, they're not trustworthy anymore.
I would also say that they are not trustworthy anymore since they didn't even resolve 1 scam accusations that is not just a scam accusation but a legit one. That's how a casino will start losing some of their gamblers if they didn't resolve 1 problem though as I have said that they will lose some of their gamblers because of that but still there's people who will gamble there even though there's one bad situation that a casino is in and I am sure that person will also stop gambling in that casino.

A single scam accusation could ruin the entire good record of a casino site but to be honest, it will be hard to pursue that single complaint despite having proof and evidence because people will always defend and speak out for the reputable site. But it's still important to call out the attention of the accused site on this forum so they would be urged to solve and fix their issue.

Not really, since this single scam accusation can be debunked by the users who have a positive experience with the Casino.  Readers will always take the side of the majority when looking at the credibility of a Casino.  Besides reputable Casino will always fix their error so if ever a reputable casino leave a single case like that, I am sure they will release a statement why they decided not to process the request or case of the single "victim".
It would always go on majorities views and feedbacks because even if we do see some issues from other users but most people are really still trusting the platform then it would really be still remaining unless if the
situation had been leaved unresolved and creating much doubts and noise then it might have the chance for it to become worst and if the majority would really be having that decision then this is the time
that it could majorly affect platforms reputation and popularity thats why top platforms or companies do really resolved out immediate whenever issues been raised because its never been a good
thing for a company to have thats why they should really be that attentive when issues been raised.

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August 13, 2022, 10:37:09 PM
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It could take a huge hit on their reputation, but I guess they will still continue and remain in the competition. And it's really up to them if they suffer from it, I mean will there be exodus of players from their platform and move out to other casino's because of their reputation? Or the players will remain with them since they haven't experience that or maybe the accusations is not true? just some random guy with no proofs or with proofs but it is obvious that he is abusing the casinos or has violated their TOS? Or the casino was found guilty and yet still insist that they are innocent, gets a red flag, and yet people still gamble with them?


When you're playing in a casino with an unresolved issue you must try to get the fact on who is wrong between the operator and the player, so you can play with peace of mind and you can refer the casino to friends if they ask what reputable casino you can refer them, one accusation that is unresolved is too many, they have to find a way to resolve or make it appear that they are on the right and there were violations and the account is tagged, if you're an active player in a casino you should always check the status of the casino, in the first place you sign up here because of its reputation.


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August 13, 2022, 11:17:35 PM
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Even if how reputable casino they are and if they have un resolve issue which we see valid we still need to be careful on them since one issue didn't solve faster as it should be might lead for more problems in future. We should look only on how big the casino is maybe we should look also on how they handle the issue of their costumer since maybe in future we will encounter that to we can assure that we are in good casino with good support and will not fall on bad support ones because this is totally stressful to us.

That is the point, I think that a casino will always have claims, always some justified from the player and others where the casino is right, but regardless of that, all the casino have many claims and then it is about how Support attends them and then solves.

There are casinos where these situations regardless of who is right, only the fact of making the claim or the consultation is horrible and in most they only tell you; "Your ticket is..." and that's all, then you wait 24 to 72 hours, hahaha seriously, really it is not customer service or the famous live chat, some casinos use the chat live as a placebo effect but They do not solve anything.


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August 19, 2022, 03:55:07 AM
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It could take a huge hit on their reputation, but I guess they will still continue and remain in the competition. And it's really up to them if they suffer from it, I mean will there be exodus of players from their platform and move out to other casino's because of their reputation? Or the players will remain with them since they haven't experience that or maybe the accusations is not true? just some random guy with no proofs or with proofs but it is obvious that he is abusing the casinos or has violated their TOS? Or the casino was found guilty and yet still insist that they are innocent, gets a red flag, and yet people still gamble with them?


When you're playing in a casino with an unresolved issue you must try to get the fact on who is wrong between the operator and the player, so you can play with peace of mind and you can refer the casino to friends if they ask what reputable casino you can refer them, one accusation that is unresolved is too many, they have to find a way to resolve or make it appear that they are on the right and there were violations and the account is tagged, if you're an active player in a casino you should always check the status of the casino, in the first place you sign up here because of its reputation.
A casino which has proven over many years they care about their customers can be given the benefit of the doubt when there is an accusation against them that is unresolved.

However if after all the evidence is presented it is proven they are in the wrong and they still refuse to give in then regardless of how much we have trusted them in the past that should be a sign that we need to look for another casino immediately as who knows when the same thing could happen to us.

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August 19, 2022, 11:51:46 AM
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It could take a huge hit on their reputation, but I guess they will still continue and remain in the competition. And it's really up to them if they suffer from it, I mean will there be exodus of players from their platform and move out to other casino's because of their reputation? Or the players will remain with them since they haven't experience that or maybe the accusations is not true? just some random guy with no proofs or with proofs but it is obvious that he is abusing the casinos or has violated their TOS? Or the casino was found guilty and yet still insist that they are innocent, gets a red flag, and yet people still gamble with them?


When you're playing in a casino with an unresolved issue you must try to get the fact on who is wrong between the operator and the player, so you can play with peace of mind and you can refer the casino to friends if they ask what reputable casino you can refer them, one accusation that is unresolved is too many, they have to find a way to resolve or make it appear that they are on the right and there were violations and the account is tagged, if you're an active player in a casino you should always check the status of the casino, in the first place you sign up here because of its reputation.

It's more on how the gambler will take the risk in continuing patronizing the services of that particular platform, if they are willing to use it even there's an accusation that being complained, maybe they are willing to gamble still as they are not ye being victimized or they trust the site and let the gamble continue, at the end of the day it's your personal experienced that will lead you to where to play if it's needed to change place or if you will stick with the same service provider that you usually use when playing your favorite gambling games.

All will remain in your decision making, and how will you update yourself with the site that you are using when gambling.

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