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June 16, 2022, 06:43:56 PM
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That's very suspicious and I think it looks like all those accounts are being controlled by one person or group of people to cheat the campaign.
Isn't that what most bounty hunters do in bounty campaigns, not that i bother too much about that since they are more often than not newbies with no merits, and they really do not have anything to lose with their accounts, if they are caught cheating and tagged, they will still continue with the account

Glansing at the occurrence of the usernames one after other in the spreadsheet, the similarities of the usernames and also the time and date of registration. It is obvious that the accounts are very much connected. But you need further evidence like wallet address linking or social media handle linking.
But I ask, how profitable is it for one person to control that large number of the accounts. Is it profitable, compared to the time that they invest?

most times because some of the bounty managers do not care.
How much can the bounty managers care? Bounty managers also have other things doing rather than connecting addresses and media handle connecting. Besides, the system permits them to return after being caught.

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June 25, 2022, 08:28:44 PM
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That's very suspicious and I think it looks like all those accounts are being controlled by one person or group of people to cheat the campaign.
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most times because some of the bounty managers do not care.
How much can the bounty managers care? Bounty managers also have other things doing rather than connecting addresses and media handle connecting. Besides, the system permits them to return after being caught.
Aside bounty managers having lots of other things doing and not having the time to try to connect addresses to media handles, I personally think Bounty detective is a shitty bounty managers and this is why they can never manage any meaningful bounty campaign on this forum other than the shitcoins they manage campaigns for.
I wish they can at the least, try to act up fully to their name "Bounty Detective", as currently, they are able to detect bounty campaigns but are not able to detect the fraud in the campaigns, which means they aren't doing their job fully as Detectives they call themselves.

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June 26, 2022, 06:21:19 PM
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Actually, the problem is bounty managers are looking for mass workers, not quality workers. If only quality work is accepted I can bet 80% of participants will leave this work after a few campaigns. Also recently some low-rank bounty manager appears who doesn't care about their reputation and ready to promote scam project if they got money for them. I also think we should leave that matters for now.
The usual bounty campaigns are just numbers in social media. Shill in Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Medium, and may other platforms. There are no genuine conversation but all misinformation. The bounty hunters even do not understand the project. Project team, campaign manage know it but they do not mind, they are not paying anything for it at all.

It's the market that turned wrong. It was a lot better in late 2017 at ICO peak time. Because these tokens had at least some value back then. A user who is a little informed they know it's waste of time now. Only the new people who heard that they can make money from bounty, they try. After few participation probably they realize the reality or why do we see many newbie fresh accounts in bounty campaigns.

The bright side is, from these newbies sometimes we get some people who find the forum interesting and continue. We have so many such examples.

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June 28, 2022, 09:51:55 AM
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A solution has to go further then rank.

Do you think as a bounty manager or campaign manager, KYC will be better?
If yes then managers has to implement a KYC system to limit those farming accounts in a single campaign. I don't if a user can actually provide about 9 to 15 separates KYC details to receive payment. The process can be done manually and the kyc details has to be recorded in a separate sheet, this will take 10 to 30 second video video to prove real ownership otherwise no way to prevent scammers or cheaters.
Most at times if KYC is implemented you will notice they always apply with their real account before anything else.

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June 28, 2022, 08:53:48 PM
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A solution has to go further then rank.

Do you think as a bounty manager or campaign manager, KYC will be better?
If yes then managers has to implement a KYC system to limit those farming accounts in a single campaign. I don't if a user can actually provide about 9 to 15 separates KYC details to receive payment. The process can be done manually and the kyc details has to be recorded in a separate sheet, this will take 10 to 30 second video video to prove real ownership otherwise no way to prevent scammers or cheaters.
Most at times if KYC is implemented you will notice they always apply with their real account before anything else.
You could implement KYC into a bounty but then your participants shrink to nearly 0 IMO. I don't think many bounty hunters would be interested in sharing their info. Definitely would help in solving the problem though.

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Do you think as a bounty manager or campaign manager, KYC will be better?
Pay them real money or at least by existing established coin, there will be many who will join campaign without hesitating for KYC. But when you are paying them with worthless tokens, asking for KYC is too much. I will not be surprised if you get less than 1% of the hunters that usually a campaign receives.

Bounty team are looking for free marketing. They do not care who is alt and who is real. As long as the keyword typed and spreading around the internet, they are happy.

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June 28, 2022, 10:16:08 PM
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Bounty team are looking for free marketing. They do not care who is alt and who is real. As long as the keyword typed and spreading around the internet, they are happy.


Exactly. If one person can promote in a good way, the manager may not complain that it is one person behind multiple accounts.

I believe KYC in bounty is likely to turn down real users because they don’t want to just share personal information, while hunters with bot accounts will already find a way to pass KYC. it seems that it will only lower the quality of the campaign participants.

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June 29, 2022, 07:43:52 AM
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This is so bad then, is there no need to track those who are deliberately cheating in bounty campaign?
From most of the compliant I have seen I noticed they are ever ready to cheat irrespective of how much accounts that has been ban or Redtrusted even reported yet we can still found much of them still cheating.


Concerning a user enrolling 10 accounts or more don't you think is a bot programed accounts because i can't just wonder how a user will line up his alt account the same time in a sheet without any mixed up.

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June 29, 2022, 08:10:01 AM
 #29


This is so bad then, is there no need to track those who are deliberately cheating in bounty campaign?
From most of the compliant I have seen I noticed they are ever ready to cheat irrespective of how much accounts that has been ban or Redtrusted even reported yet we can still found much of them still cheating.


Concerning a user enrolling 10 accounts or more don't you think is a bot programed accounts because i can't just wonder how a user will line up his alt account the same time in a sheet without any mixed up.
As mentioned by BitcoinGirl, most companies don't care if users are enrolling alts. They're paying in a token with little to no value at first. The manager is the person who is more concerned about the alts. We cannot just go accusing users without proof though, so we are looking for duplicate addresses or browsing through the alts thread. Bounty hunters are helpful too as they turn others in because they know less participants = more reward.

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