Are you a merit source? Thanks for your sacrifice.

[KingsDen]

I decided to create this topic to raise an awareness and also to thank merit sources. Though not all merit sources, but to a few who are dedicated to ensuring circulation of merits to deserving posts.

Firstly, I discovered that some merits sources who also have good amounts of merits earned are denied of merits (maybe unintentionally) by other members of the forum.
The unmentioned reasons could be that;

• They have enough merits, any need of wasting more on them?
• Someone that generates merits from the vacuum and issue people, should have the power to increase his personal merit count

This might sound silly but it's actually the reality. I have seen countless times some merit sources make quality posts in a particular thread and they will go unmerited. Yet, in same thread, you see them issuing merits to posts that are even of lesser quality to theirs.

No wonder when I was a newbie. I made a post that I so much believed was of high quality but no one sent even a single merit to it. I decided to merit myself since I got some smerits . But I was disappointed to understand that I could not merit myself. In same vain, can our outstanding merits sources have the supper power to send themselves a few merits every month? (Not actually a proposal, but an idea decorator).

There is a thread to report unmerited good posts, I hardly see posts of merit sources reported there. It therefore means that all good posts from merit sources have received cool amounts of merits (irony).

Thanks to all dedicated merit sources, needless of mentioning names. I appreciate you all.

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[suchmoon]

If you're a merit source, I hope you know this is a merit-begging thread. Ignore it and cycle the merits elsewhere.

[Welsh]

Shhh, you're going to start the "merit sources are people too" movement. Nobody wants that.

In all seriousness, I don't think its too much of a issue. I try to just merit those that are posting quality content, but at the end of the day it does feel nice meriting someone who might actually need them, and its even better seeing a newer user that you've merited in the past, actually get motivated by it, and turn out to be a top quality user.

If I was in the predicament which I'd nearly exhausted my conjured merit source, and it was between a merit source with a very good quality post or a newer user with a slightly less quality post, but good quality I'd probably give it to the newer user, because it might encourage them to continue. I can always go back to the merit sources post at a later date, which I typically do revisit a lot of old threads, and replies to merit. I've also seen this behaviour from other sources too.

[KingsDen]

If you're a merit source, I hope you know this is a merit-begging thread. Ignore it and cycle the merits elsewhere.

I am not a merit source and that's why I'm in the best position to make a post like this.

I can always go back to the merit sources post at a later date, which I typically do revisit a lot of old threads, and replies to merit. I've also seen this behaviour from other sources too.

Very nice to understand that this method works for you and to some other persons. I have tried creating a bookmark for good posts, so that I can merit them later. But unfortunately I never used the bookmarks for once . Before I could have an smerit, I will stumble on even more quality posts that wouldn't warrant me to revisit my bookmark.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If you're a merit source, I hope you know this is a merit-begging thread. Ignore it and cycle the merits elsewhere.

I am not a merit source and that's why I'm in the best position to make a post like this.

I think you misunderstood  ,  he didn't say you are a merit source, he's actually letting other merit sources know that this thread is a merit-begging thread, and that they(the merit sources) should look elsewhere in terms of merit cycling(whatever "cycling" means anyway  )

There's a saying that a prophet is not always respected in his hometown, I guess this is what the OPs post is all about, that merit sources are under appreciated for their efforts, well, thank you merit sources for all your efforts  .

[Hispo]

If you're a merit source, I hope you know this is a merit-begging thread. Ignore it and cycle the merits elsewhere.

I am not a merit source and that's why I'm in the best position to make a post like this.

Suchmoon is not talking to you, she/he is talking to anyone else who is reading this thread you created.
In other words, she/he is implying your are indirectly asking for merits. 

[KingsDen]

If you're a merit source, I hope you know this is a merit-begging thread. Ignore it and cycle the merits elsewhere.

I am not a merit source and that's why I'm in the best position to make a post like this.

Suchmoon is not talking to you, she/he is talking to anyone else who is reading this thread you created.
In other words, she/he is implying your are indirectly asking for merits. 

Lolx... I actually think you are the one that misunderstood her.
Or maybe her statement is quite controversial. At my age, she can't accuse me of merit begging, she should do that to member ranks struggling to rank up to full member .
She wasn't sure if I'm a merit source, so she meant that if I am one, my post could be tagged a merit begging one. If I am wrong, she should come and clarify.

[OgNasty]

In same vain, can our outstanding merits sources have the supper power to send themselves a few merits every month? (Not actually a proposal, but an idea decorator).

An idea, for sure.  Not a good one though.  I couldn't imagine the amount of drama it would stir up if I gave myself a single merit for anything.  LOL

It would be with good reason too.  I would be annoyed at anyone meriting themselves.  I think we all probably believe our posts deserve merit, so having others issue it is just the common sense thing to do.  Don't feel sorry for merit sources.  Many of us likely benefit from handing out merit in one way or another.  Just look at who sends the most merit and who receives the most merit.

[suchmoon]

Lolx... I actually think you are the one that misunderstood her.
Or maybe her statement is quite controversial. At my age, she can't accuse me of merit begging, she should do that to member ranks struggling to rank up to full member .
She wasn't sure if I'm a merit source, so she meant that if I am one, my post could be tagged a merit begging one. If I am wrong, she should come and clarify.

I don't know how much clearer I can make it... I'm talking to the same "you" that's in the title of the thread.



Merit threads are so 2018.

[Poker Player]

To be honest, for a moment it seemed to me that I was in the B&H section, where usually appear threads praising the merit system, written by lower-ranked members or some similar threads thanking the forum or the higher ranked members, in what has always seemed to me a covert form of merit begging, and in many cases they receive merits.

I quite agree with suchmoon, the only thing I think is that this thread like others will not be considered strictly merit begging because it is not explicit. I mean it is not going to be considered as an unofficial forum rule breaking, but if suchmoon tries to warn the absent-minded I think he is doing the right thing.

[Rikafip]

This might sound silly but it's actually the reality. I have seen countless times some merit sources make quality posts in a particular thread and they will go unmerited. Yet, in same thread, you see them issuing merits to posts that are even of lesser quality to theirs.

Well of course those who have more merit to spare can be less picky when choose merit worthy posts, I don't know why are you surprised with that.

Lolx... I actually think you are the one that misunderstood her.

Buddy, Hispo is right, you completely misunderstood what suchmoon said.

At my age, she can't accuse me of merit begging, she should do that to member ranks struggling to rank up to full member .

One is never too old for a merit begging thread as even Legendary members sometimes make those.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If you're a merit source, I hope you know this is a merit-begging thread. Ignore it and cycle the merits elsewhere.

Oddly enough, that wasn't my first reaction to it--and you know I'm normally cynical to the point of despair.

Firstly, I discovered that some merits sources who also have good amounts of merits earned are denied of merits (maybe unintentionally) by other members of the forum.

How exactly did you discover that?  Was something written about that phenomenon recently?  I don't know about other merit sources, but I couldn't care less if members give me merits.  I've actually written a number of times that people should pass on meriting any of my posts and instead give some merits to lower-ranked members who need them to rank up.  They're useless to me aside from adding to my personal stash of sMerits, but that's unnecessary since I haven't tapped into those in many months.

OP, you sort of hinted that you weren't thanking all the merit sources.  Do you have any intel about merit sources not doing a good job?

[lovesmayfamilis]

But I was disappointed to understand that I could not merit myself. In same vain, can our outstanding merits sources have the supper power to send themselves a few merits every month? (Not actually a proposal, but an idea decorator).

You lifted my spirits on my morning coffee. Say, a person who distributes wages, or anyone who is entrusted with the distribution of things, has the right to have a superpower? Take from the general treasury?
Probably you often pat yourself on the head, praise yourself for good deeds, and then tell everyone else?
No offense OP, but the post is funny.
Everyone knows who is the source of merit, why is the topic with a question? Have you decided to gather everyone and regret everyone?
And, as always, the way you acted when you were a rookie, suck up.

Good advice, close the topic.

[Daniel91]

KingsDen, I'm a merit source and I try to help other forum members as much as I can.
In doing so, I understand my responsibility and I can't give merits unconditionally, but if certain conditions and criteria are met.
So, the post must be constructive, give some new value or information, content that will help other forum members.
In my local part of the forum I have a topic where local members can report their quality posts to me, which they think deserve merits.
I can't help more than that.

[Pmalek]

Firstly, I discovered that some merits sources who also have good amounts of merits earned are denied of merits (maybe unintentionally) by other members of the forum.

I guess it depends on which sub-boards those members are active in. I like being in the technical Bitcoin boards. And in those boards you have maybe 20 regulars you can come across almost every day. We all receive and send merits (merit sources or not), and very often you end up meriting the same people. There are a few reasons for that. They are the ones who know what they are talking about and how to solve technical problems, and low-ranked users are hard to come by in those boards. And those who are there, usually have problems and and ask how to solve them. They aren't the ones doing the solving.

So if you are a merit source very active in technical Bitcoin boards, you will often come across quality and merit-worthy posts of other merit sources and high-ranked users. Usually, a high rank and being a merit source goes hand in hand.

[UserU]

To be honest, for a moment it seemed to me that I was in the B&H section, where usually appear threads praising the merit system, written by lower-ranked members or some similar threads thanking the forum or the higher ranked members, in what has always seemed to me a covert form of merit begging, and in many cases they receive merits.

If he were to post it there, his rank would be sticking out like a sore thumb...

[aysg76]

I also beleive this thread did not intend to throw some light on the useful forum discussions and sound like more of appreciation of the merit sources which we have seen in many self congratulatory threads in the past where members ranking up thanks each merit source for helping them but it's attempt to gain more merits and it is deemed to be of low quality on the forum.

Firstly, I discovered that some merits sources who also have good amounts of merits earned are denied of merits (maybe unintentionally) by other members of the forum.

This is not clear to me as you are saying they have earned lot of merits meanwhile you are saying they are denied merits by other members so how do they earn them? If you see the merit sources also earn lot of merits by high rank,low rank and merit sources for the post they make and i didn't doubt about it.Sometimes they also exchange merits with each other but eventually it's distributed on the forum in the end helping members to rank up.

The unmentioned reasons could be that;

• They have enough merits, any need of wasting more on them?

Will talk about only one merit source in this case and he is @Pharmacist and he is the one who has helped many of us to rank up to higher ranks and his style is familiar by those who get merits from him and whenever you send him back he will say not to merit himself but help other good posts on the forum and make them rank up.So you can't say they don't get it as you see most of the sources have good amount of merits earned also with their posts.

There is a thread to report unmerited good posts, I hardly see posts of merit sources reported there. It therefore means that all good posts from merit sources have received cool amounts of merits (irony).

The similar thread is created by @LoyceV for helping the members who are unnoticed and didn't have enough merits for the good post they have made by the merit source particularly

It's been suggested before, and khaled0111 suggested it again today: a possibility for users to report good unmerited posts to Merit Sources.

You see merit sources usually get merits for the post they have made as you can see the most of them are active on all main boards so they are known by all but low rank members sometimes went unnoticed but this thread helps to aim them.[/list]

[philipma1957]

I decided to create this topic to raise an awareness and also to thank merit sources. Though not all merit sources, but to a few who are dedicated to ensuring circulation of merits to deserving posts.

Firstly, I discovered that some merits sources who also have good amounts of merits earned are denied of merits (maybe unintentionally) by other members of the forum.
The unmentioned reasons could be that;

• They have enough merits, any need of wasting more on them?
• Someone that generates merits from the vacuum and issue people, should have the power to increase his personal merit count

This might sound silly but it's actually the reality. I have seen countless times some merit sources make quality posts in a particular thread and they will go unmerited. Yet, in same thread, you see them issuing merits to posts that are even of lesser quality to theirs.

No wonder when I was a newbie. I made a post that I so much believed was of high quality but no one sent even a single merit to it. I decided to merit myself since I got some smerits . But I was disappointed to understand that I could not merit myself. In same vain, can our outstanding merits sources have the supper power to send themselves a few merits every month? (Not actually a proposal, but an idea decorator).

There is a thread to report unmerited good posts, I hardly see posts of merit sources reported there. It therefore means that all good posts from merit sources have received cool amounts of merits (irony).

Thanks to all dedicated merit sources, needless of mentioning names. I appreciate you all.

So I read all the fuck u op stop begging posts. I decided to look at your posts for the last year or so.

I will check back in and mention some of you good or lack of good posts.

Frankly once you get over 1200 or 1300 merits most people no long care if they get a merit.

I would argue my years from 2012 to 2018 which got me 1000 merits should have earned 3000 or more merits. But who cares not very important.

I look forward to reading your posts.


this was decent

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402246.msg60340897#msg60340897


If the op makes lots like this and is being ignored i would argue he is frustrated and thus this thread.

As to is it a begging thread or a why am I being ignored thread hard to say.

back to reading his posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402057.msg60331552#msg60331552

his first 20 on page one have a lot of quality.

on to next 20


I want to say this to all the legends that knocked him for this thread.

Read his posts and note the merits he has received.

It would be frustrating if you were in his spot.

Also how many legends here are like me 1000 gifted merits so we never really cared or needed merit.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401357.msg60324636#msg60324636


Honestly the op appears to simply be voicing the opinion that he works hard and posts well.

Some of his posts dont get merit that are good.


Now to all that have been a time only legend ie og people such as my self try and relate to hiw you would feel if you were him.

Empathy could help a bit.

First two pages he has at least eight good posts .


I will also mention he is about 1 year and 1 month member and has earned 600+ merits

[skarais]

This might sound silly but it's actually the reality.

And yes, that's how it is now. Sometimes someone doesn't mean to hurt and offend you regardless of what effort you put in, but somehow I agree that threads like this don't seem right for users like you anymore. People have ignored the mewbie effort at the same idea because they may not have any other idea of ​​merit, so no offense and here's the truth.

My advice, lock your thread.

[Smartvirus]

Say, a person who distributes wages, or anyone who is entrusted with the distribution of things, has the right to have a superpower? Take from the general treasury?
Probably you often pat yourself on the head, praise yourself for good deeds, and then tell everyone else?
No offense OP, but the post is funny.

I agree with you on this and the connotation you've made. It might be so distinct but in terms of value forum wise, it fits in and so, it goes.
It would be outrightly wrong should you be given the power to merit yourself. In other ways, it would bridge the no meriting or should I say exchange of merit with alts rule.

How would you feel when you praise yourself? If we are to take a look at it for a minute, it makes little sense. Self love, praises and others is some way to encourage yourself but, its always much better when someone tips a hat in your recognition. Like some user @Davidvictorson shared his dairy of quotes for us a while back!

Well the truth is, its of no use. Yeah, merit sources might need to get some credits to let them know, they are making impacts but, it often comes in the least expected way for most of them and I'm sure they see no use to it otherwise. Haven't out grown ranking profile on the forum, merits begins go look like the nothing that it is.

A grate job they are doing, they get more exposure to the posts of users than every other user due to the burden of dispensing there duties and that's a plus for them too on the knowledge they are exposed to daily. It's never easy but some have been coming through.

I've actually written a number of times that people should pass on meriting any of my posts and instead give some merits to lower-ranked members who need them to rank up.  They're useless to me aside from adding to my personal stash of sMerits, but that's unnecessary since I haven't tapped into those in many months.

This is the reason why some merit source applications don't go through vey well. As a merit source, the idea is about meriting  quality posts wherever you find them but, its often about low rankers and when you ain't doing much of that as a merit source applicant, it tells what could be the result when you become a merit source. Where we would have low rankers looking to merits to scale the ranks because of an expectancy on sent out merit.
Having  a mentality  such as The Pharmacist, of caring very little for merits and even go the length to urge users not to merit his post but instead, redirect the merit to merit deserving posts of low rankers is surely some way to go, a good one at that and we ought to be more like that towards other low rankers.

Needless to say, the merits go out and they revive the system with a new each time they do there job. The not caring is a plus for those looking to rank up. Should they care, it would mean trouble for those yet to scale the ranks. Hence, not caring if you get merits as a merit source becomes a quality!