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July 15, 2022, 02:09:49 PM
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Definitely yes,it is possible to forget about gambling and focus on other things that will give you money.What I see about gambling is when one is jobless,and he decides to try other means of making money,gambling might tend to him as the surest way to make quick money,and therefore,he will choose to try  gambling,but before he knows it,it has become his habbit.
But one can still leave gambling and forget about it change is constant,and the moment one takes a strong decision on gambling,and decides not to try it again,it is possible to make it a thing of the past.But this has to be a decision that you will never go back on.
What happens is that with gambling you can make money fast and it would be a solution, but I see this as a piece of water, 'because the person in his emergency will want to have all the luck in the world and maybe he will be given and win, but I think that on another occasion if you are looking for the same thing it is more difficult for you to achieve it, since you are already conditioned and it is a huge mistake to see a casino as the best option to put everything there, in money and energy. I know several cases of friends who have gone to physical casinos to play with the intention of seeing it as an ATM and most of the time they return with more losses, they even lose more than normal.

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July 15, 2022, 02:47:06 PM
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It is very possible to make gambling a thing of the past because nothing remains constant in life,nothing will remain the same as long as the person in question is ready to accept change.
Another thing that can help one is change of environment,and change of friends.If you have a group of friends that are addicts thesame way you are,there is no way your life can change,and there is no way you can make gambling a thing of the past.It is obvious that most people find it difficult to avert from gambling,but a change of mindset and a change of mentality toward it will help you make it a thing of the past.
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July 15, 2022, 03:46:36 PM
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If that gambler that has made it for himself to use self-exclusion in all casinos that he use. Only two things can come and happen for real.

however this will be different in each individual case. the government only helps and finds solutions for their citizens who have problems with gambling addiction. 

1. The gambler will still find a way to gamble if he's not comfortable of what he did. I've tried that before to abstain for one activity that I've doing but I'm still finding a way to do it.

it seems you have to try with a strong determination from within, for your own good and those around you.

2. He can control and going with his will to quit for good but this is going to be a long process.

Of course yes, I agree someone who wants to get rid of his gambling addiction will need a process that may take a long time, relatives, family, wife, husband, can be a good motivation in the healing process.

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September 03, 2022, 01:59:09 PM
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It is very possible to make gambling a thing of the past because nothing remains constant in life,nothing will remain the same as long as the person in question is ready to accept change.
Another thing that can help one is change of environment,and change of friends.If you have a group of friends that are addicts thesame way you are,there is no way your life can change,and there is no way you can make gambling a thing of the past.It is obvious that most people find it difficult to avert from gambling,but a change of mindset and a change of mentality toward it will help you make it a thing of the past.

If, without a doubt, this is something that can undoubtedly help, if a person does all this, what is most sought is for their mind to forget little by little, but I think that the best way is to do things that keep the person very busy, For me, it is the first step to combat severe addiction.

I also agree when you say that things can change, that everything is tied to the past and that they are not things of the past, we are in a world where old things do help us because we have learned from them, but that everything somehow it changes and these changes are actually very good because that's how you get better.

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September 03, 2022, 02:39:33 PM
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Definitely yes,it is possible to forget about gambling and focus on other things that will give you money.What I see about gambling is when one is jobless,and he decides to try other means of making money,gambling might tend to him as the surest way to make quick money,and therefore,he will choose to try  gambling,but before he knows it,it has become his habbit.
But one can still leave gambling and forget about it change is constant,and the moment one takes a strong decision on gambling,and decides not to try it again,it is possible to make it a thing of the past.But this has to be a decision that you will never go back on.
What happens is that with gambling you can make money fast and it would be a solution, but I see this as a piece of water, 'because the person in his emergency will want to have all the luck in the world and maybe he will be given and win, but I think that on another occasion if you are looking for the same thing it is more difficult for you to achieve it, since you are already conditioned and it is a huge mistake to see a casino as the best option to put everything there, in money and energy. I know several cases of friends who have gone to physical casinos to play with the intention of seeing it as an ATM and most of the time they return with more losses, they even lose more than normal.


Yes ofcourse, if someone is seeing a casino as a source of income then he must be making a huge mistake.
They should see it more like an entertainment instead of income source. This is where many tend to make mistake and hence lose their money.
Playing games on a gambling site is the easiest way to lose money. So it's better to avoid over gambling by making small bets.

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September 03, 2022, 04:18:02 PM
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Yes ofcourse, if someone is seeing a casino as a source of income then he must be making a huge mistake.
They should see it more like an entertainment instead of income source. This is where many tend to make mistake and hence lose their money.
Playing games on a gambling site is the easiest way to lose money. So it's better to avoid over gambling by making small bets.
People shouldn't see gambling as you say, but the truth is that many people still expect to make money from gambling. This makes many people lose more and more money and are unaware of it because the attraction of gambling is very big to attract them back again. If a person experiences a big loss, he should be able to realize himself not to repeat the same mistake and try to reduce the amount of money used for gambling and not deposit another amount of money if he loses. Thus, he would not suffer a loss and could learn from what he had already gained from gambling.

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September 03, 2022, 08:51:09 PM
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It is very possible to make gambling a thing of the past because nothing remains constant in life,nothing will remain the same as long as the person in question is ready to accept change.

It might be, but it will take a lot of courage on the part of the individual to overcome his gambling addiction. And the person need a lot of help from friends and families.

Another thing that can help one is change of environment,and change of friends.If you have a group of friends that are addicts thesame way you are,there is no way your life can change,and there is no way you can make gambling a thing of the past.It is obvious that most people find it difficult to avert from gambling,but a change of mindset and a change of mentality toward it will help you make it a thing of the past.

Again it boils down to who are your friends are, because they will have so much influence on you. If you want to start new then maybe you can tell them straight face that you want out and doesn't want to gamble. You don't need to move out just to change your environment. For sure they will have to understand you and maybe themselves can also make a U-turn and have a change of heart to quit gambling or at least minimized it.

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September 03, 2022, 09:12:07 PM
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People shouldn't see gambling as you say, but the truth is that many people still expect to make money from gambling. This makes many people lose more and more money and are unaware of it because the attraction of gambling is very big to attract them back again. If a person experiences a big loss, he should be able to realize himself not to repeat the same mistake and try to reduce the amount of money used for gambling and not deposit another amount of money if he loses. Thus, he would not suffer a loss and could learn from what he had already gained from gambling.
If a person have that kind of mindset won't stay fine because a mindset like that will go broke much faster than other situations. Many gambling addict having financial problems and even some have now debt to pay because of gambling which in my opinion is not a good having financial problems and also a debt that hasn't been paid yet. I have seen some news about a gambler that lose in a casino that made him steal.
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Yes ofcourse, if someone is seeing a casino as a source of income then he must be making a huge mistake.
They should see it more like an entertainment instead of income source. This is where many tend to make mistake and hence lose their money.
Playing games on a gambling site is the easiest way to lose money. So it's better to avoid over gambling by making small bets.
People shouldn't see gambling as you say, but the truth is that many people still expect to make money from gambling. This makes many people lose more and more money and are unaware of it because the attraction of gambling is very big to attract them back again. If a person experiences a big loss, he should be able to realize himself not to repeat the same mistake and try to reduce the amount of money used for gambling and not deposit another amount of money if he loses. Thus, he would not suffer a loss and could learn from what he had already gained from gambling.
If we do look on the bigger picture or just simply sticking out with the reality that is happening then it cant really be denied that gambling industry is getting bigger and bigger as years passing by.Why?

There are lots of people who do really believe that gambling could make them rich and this is the primary reason on why people do keeps on coming back on playing gambling due to this belief.
Some are here for the entertainment and leisure but most people would be pertaining about making money which is something a very common intent.

Addiction is a common problem that had been raised up with this industry and this one is a personal one.

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September 03, 2022, 09:47:29 PM
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People shouldn't see gambling as you say, but the truth is that many people still expect to make money from gambling. This makes many people lose more and more money and are unaware of it because the attraction of gambling is very big to attract them back again. If a person experiences a big loss, he should be able to realize himself not to repeat the same mistake and try to reduce the amount of money used for gambling and not deposit another amount of money if he loses. Thus, he would not suffer a loss and could learn from what he had already gained from gambling.
If a person have that kind of mindset won't stay fine because a mindset like that will go broke much faster than other situations. Many gambling addict having financial problems and even some have now debt to pay because of gambling which in my opinion is not a good having financial problems and also a debt that hasn't been paid yet. I have seen some news about a gambler that lose in a casino that made him steal.
Pretty common behaviour for addicted gamblers, better look for money to spend on rehabilitation centers rather than keep doing the same things over and over. Addiction is bad in all fields, especially money-involved activities can hurt a person and it can lead to the ruin of the lives of people around pathologically addicted gamblers. Financial problems start to appear slowly after losing savings on gambling platforms and this should be the last point for gamblers who wanna get out of the deeper point that can't be fixed later, unfortunately.

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Pretty common behaviour for addicted gamblers, better look for money to spend on rehabilitation centers rather than keep doing the same things over and over. Addiction is bad in all fields, especially money-involved activities can hurt a person and it can lead to the ruin of the lives of people around pathologically addicted gamblers. Financial problems start to appear slowly after losing savings on gambling platforms and this should be the last point for gamblers who wanna get out of the deeper point that can't be fixed later, unfortunately.

I think the sweet spot to try to get rid of addiction is not when you've already lost all your money, but when you realize you're spending more money than you should on gambling.
After the player loses all his money to addiction, unfortunately there are still ways to make the situation worse.... I've seen many people borrowing more and more money with the illusion that one day they will be able to pay it back with their own profits match.

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Pretty common behaviour for addicted gamblers, better look for money to spend on rehabilitation centers rather than keep doing the same things over and over. Addiction is bad in all fields, especially money-involved activities can hurt a person and it can lead to the ruin of the lives of people around pathologically addicted gamblers. Financial problems start to appear slowly after losing savings on gambling platforms and this should be the last point for gamblers who wanna get out of the deeper point that can't be fixed later, unfortunately.

I think the sweet spot to try to get rid of addiction is not when you've already lost all your money, but when you realize you're spending more money than you should on gambling.
After the player loses all his money to addiction, unfortunately, there are still ways to make the situation worse... I've seen many people borrowing more and more money with the illusion that one day they will be able to pay it back with their own profits match.
Unfortunately, some people have fallen deeply into a gambling addiction and have lost everything they had and that's the only time they will decide to quit gambling. A gambling addict, if not decided and serious about quitting will always find ways to gamble as long as he could find other resources. While a gambling addict who is serious and willing to change ways will also be willing to use his funds for rehabilitation rather than spending it again in gambling. It all depends on the willingness of a gambler to change his path.
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If a person have that kind of mindset won't stay fine because a mindset like that will go broke much faster than other situations. Many gambling addict having financial problems and even some have now debt to pay because of gambling which in my opinion is not a good having financial problems and also a debt that hasn't been paid yet. I have seen some news about a gambler that lose in a casino that made him steal.
That is the result of playing gambling too often and constantly losing. They can't accept their loss and will continue to use more money to recover from their losses. We must change their mindset immediately if we have experienced several defeats before everything changes and causes us to experience very large losses. And if anyone is in debt for gambling, they must immediately realize what they are doing is not right and end it immediately.

If we do look on the bigger picture or just simply sticking out with the reality that is happening then it cant really be denied that gambling industry is getting bigger and bigger as years passing by.Why?

There are lots of people who do really believe that gambling could make them rich and this is the primary reason on why people do keeps on coming back on playing gambling due to this belief.
Some are here for the entertainment and leisure but most people would be pertaining about making money which is something a very common intent.

Addiction is a common problem that had been raised up with this industry and this one is a personal one.
The gambling industry is getting bigger because it can attract gamblers, those who previously played offline gambling are now starting to move to online gambling.

They can make money from gambling but never think of using gambling as a way to make money. If you get money from gambling, that's a bonus for you because you won't always be able to get it every time you gamble.

If you can't do it, you will only risk gambling addiction that has hit many people. And before that happens to you, you'd better be aware and start limiting gambling.

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September 04, 2022, 06:38:39 AM
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I appreciate this idea, but creating such global self-exclusion system would be close to impossible.
Hundreds of online casinos would refuse to join such self-exclusion system, because they want to milk their players, who are addicted to gambling. This might seem cynical, but I understand them from a business perspective.
There must be some kind of incentive for the casino owners to join the system. I don't know what will incentivize them to do so.
Of course, self-exclusion might become mandatory by the gambling regulators, but I'm sure that many casino would choose to stay in the blackhat unregulated area of the gambling business.
In conclusion, there's no panacea that would solve the problem with players suffering from gambling addiction.

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Yes ofcourse, if someone is seeing a casino as a source of income then he must be making a huge mistake.
They should see it more like an entertainment instead of income source. This is where many tend to make mistake and hence lose their money.
Playing games on a gambling site is the easiest way to lose money. So it's better to avoid over gambling by making small bets.
People shouldn't see gambling as you say, but the truth is that many people still expect to make money from gambling. This makes many people lose more and more money and are unaware of it because the attraction of gambling is very big to attract them back again. If a person experiences a big loss, he should be able to realize himself not to repeat the same mistake and try to reduce the amount of money used for gambling and not deposit another amount of money if he loses. Thus, he would not suffer a loss and could learn from what he had already gained from gambling.
But the problem is, in most cases, once he lose his money, he will gamble again to chase his losses, hoping he will win this time. That is the mindset of most gamblers, the reason why most of the gamblers become poorer because instead of controlling and eventually stay away from gambling, they tend to gamble more because of gambling addiction. If that’s the case, it’s hard to see gambling a thing in the past.

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September 04, 2022, 07:51:19 AM
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This gambling Guru may have overlooked that there are already casinos that implement self-exclusion and it's not giving a 100% percent success rate and many gamblers who are supposed to use this self-exclusion feature of the casino that's implementing this are just ignoring this.

You cannot compel gamblers on their own to use this feature, because gamblers are always in a denial stage that they need this tool to control their gambling addiction, the key here is still gambling education.
This is the reason why they set up guidelines and seminars and even offer online service advice just to persuade gamblers that have shown signs of compulsive gambling disorder.  I believe that the initial step is on the player himself but broadening the knowledge and understanding of an addicted player may open a path to recovery on their own accord.

- In short, even though there are a lot of good guidelines they say and show, it still really starts with every gambler to truly supervise their gambling, that's what you want to focus on what you're saying dude, right?
But, I agree with what you said to be honest. Because I am also experiencing that as a gambler and will be until now.

But the problem is, in most cases, once he lose his money, he will gamble again to chase his losses, hoping he will win this time. That is the mindset of most gamblers, the reason why most of the gamblers become poorer because instead of controlling and eventually stay away from gambling, they tend to gamble more because of gambling addiction. If that’s the case, it’s hard to see gambling a thing in the past.

- What you said is true, even now almost most gamblers still have that mindset, and they have not learned from the wrong strategy they are doing. Because if you always lose, you should stop first and cool down and come back another day and gambling should also be limited if you lose 50$ or 100$ stop first. This is just an example I said.

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September 04, 2022, 07:55:31 AM
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I am doing my daily reading of online news and articles when I stumbled on this one.  It has an article title of Casino Guru’s Šimon Vincze on How Problem Gambling Can Become a Thing of the Past So I read and wanted it to share in this forum for some healthy discussion.

Here is the opening paragraph of the article to establish the questions.
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We sit down and speak with Casino Guru’s Šimon Vincze, the man behind the company’s sustainable online gambling and reducing gambling-related harm juggernaut. Vincze most recently published the blue paper for the Global Self-Exclusion Initiative, a massive campaign that intends to tackle problem gambling with the participation of industry stakeholders and build a future where gambling-related harm is no longer an issue. Find out who Vincze is and how he is reshaping the industry.
More detail can be read on the link above.


The 3 key points that summarize the article:

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The gambling industry is missing a system with the possibility to self-exclude internationally.

Thanks to our global presence and active approach toward sustainable online gambling, we saw a gap in the current self-exclusion options, practically overseen by the rest of the industry.

Read the blue paper and dedicate a few minutes of your time to imagining a world where blocking one's access to all gambling opportunities is a possibility.
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To me it seems that while self exclusion is an important tool for that initial stage of trying to break the habit of using your regular and favorite gambling sites, some deeper changes must take place to the individual for them to be free of the addiction. People often stray into gambling because of boredom or wishing for a financial improvement, but they end up trapped in a vicious cycle. It is better to address the points that led you into gambling in the first place, often getting a better paid or more fulfilling job can free you of many burdens. Finding different hobbies or activities to fill your spare time is also critical because you'll need to find something else, hopefully more productive, to do.

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September 04, 2022, 08:49:15 AM
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Pretty common behaviour for addicted gamblers, better look for money to spend on rehabilitation centers rather than keep doing the same things over and over. Addiction is bad in all fields, especially money-involved activities can hurt a person and it can lead to the ruin of the lives of people around pathologically addicted gamblers. Financial problems start to appear slowly after losing savings on gambling platforms and this should be the last point for gamblers who wanna get out of the deeper point that can't be fixed later, unfortunately.

I think the sweet spot to try to get rid of addiction is not when you've already lost all your money, but when you realize you're spending more money than you should on gambling.
After the player loses all his money to addiction, unfortunately, there are still ways to make the situation worse... I've seen many people borrowing more and more money with the illusion that one day they will be able to pay it back with their own profits match.
Unfortunately, some people have fallen deeply into a gambling addiction and have lost everything they had and that's the only time they will decide to quit gambling. A gambling addict, if not decided and serious about quitting will always find ways to gamble as long as he could find other resources. While a gambling addict who is serious and willing to change ways will also be willing to use his funds for rehabilitation rather than spending it again in gambling. It all depends on the willingness of a gambler to change his path.
Thats true. It depends on the level of addiction and the willingness to finally stop what they used to. Sometimes it cant be done without the help of other people because a gambler who have this problem needs a strong support to overcome the addiction. Anyway, if there's a self exclusion tool in every casino, it can help the gamblers (who are willing to change for good) to finally stop their gambling habit because this program can prevented them from coming back. Hence the only choice for the gamblers are to move forward and learn to forget gambling because there's no way to gamble again for a certain period.

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September 04, 2022, 08:55:44 AM
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To me it seems that while self exclusion is an important tool for that initial stage of trying to break the habit of using your regular and favorite gambling sites, some deeper changes must take place to the individual for them to be free of the addiction. People often stray into gambling because of boredom or wishing for a financial improvement, but they end up trapped in a vicious cycle. It is better to address the points that led you into gambling in the first place, often getting a better paid or more fulfilling job can free you of many burdens. Finding different hobbies or activities to fill your spare time is also critical because you'll need to find something else, hopefully more productive, to do.

Finding a better paying job might not only gambling problem but it will solve half of everyone problem, but to expect that everyone can get a decent salary is a little bit utopic. And most of the people who has gambling problem is the one who was unable to get a good job in the first place, often because they lack of skills and they can't get any opportunity. So, I think the more possible to left gambling is just to move to another place where you can start a new life, meet new people that does not do gambling and even to the extreme measure, moving to a place where gambling is completely illegal and banned.

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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.

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