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September 04, 2022, 11:41:36 AM
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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.
finding new hobbies is a great way to get your attention away from gambling. a lot of Drs suggest this to their patients who have an addiction(not just gambling). limiting your social circle would be good if your buddies or people that you know are gamblers, but if not, I think it would be better to spend more time socializing to get your mind away from gambling.

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September 04, 2022, 11:55:04 AM
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We have to understand addiction to anything including gambling in this case as a challenge and not an international behavior that someone can just walk out from by self excluding himself. Even where a gambling casino bars an addict from playing in their team and condition, such person will find means to satisfy that urge. Addiction is an urge and like most addiction, people need help and if they don't get such appropriate help and able to go away from it, they die from such addition example drug dealing. Gambling addiction need help because when you don't do things in moderation, you are obviously abusing that thing. An addict may not be able to self exclude by themselves alone.

You have a point there, an addict needs to satisfy his urge in one way or the other.
So if a gambling addict self excludes himself from a gambling casino site then he will definitely try to satisfy that urge by doing something else.
So there needs to be an alternative that should be there for the gambler to do whenever he gets an urge to gamble.
Every gambling addict should find an alternative whenever he decides to quit gambling for good.

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September 04, 2022, 12:00:16 PM
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Suppose that it was possible to implement the principle disclosed in the "blue paper" and the possibility of blocking access to gambling will be implemented, but what about illegal playgrounds, whose services will undoubtedly be resorted to by a person dependent on gambling?
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September 04, 2022, 01:33:03 PM
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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.

He cannot quit it immediately as much as he can, relapse will come by any moment he will try to stop it and by the time that he thought that he already surpass that thing. If someone wants to change, it needs to have a strong support system and also he needs to be aware first that he once become addicted or he is currently addicted to it and he has the strong will to overcome it and have a new better life.
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September 04, 2022, 01:50:50 PM
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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.

to get out of gambling addiction is not easy, as well as addiction to drugs. when a person has been freed from his addiction, at certain times he has the potential to become an addict again. so what it takes for a person to be free from his addiction, he must first realize and ask himself. what he wants from gambling, money, or fun entertainment. think about it and then make a decision.

I think, moving to a new environment is only part of the supporting factors in the transition phase for change. I think the main point is, a strong desire with an intention to improve oneself and a determination to change.
the rest as you said.

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September 04, 2022, 01:53:42 PM
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Suppose that it was possible to implement the principle disclosed in the "blue paper" and the possibility of blocking access to gambling will be implemented, but what about illegal playgrounds, whose services will undoubtedly be resorted to by a person dependent on gambling?

When these inventors think of this simple question, they will invent something like a white list of places where a person can spend his money. That is, the gambler will be provided with a wallet from which he will be able to spend money only in permitted places - grocery stores, transport, etc. There will also be loopholes, but they will invent new restrictions. And thus, little by little, they will invent a digital (and most likely physical) prison. I would like to know who will go to this prison voluntarily.
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September 04, 2022, 05:04:03 PM
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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.

Many times this suggestion of what to do if an addicted wants to leave the habit especially gambling. Some people will never leave the habit until they are gone or they have a very serious incapacitation that will hamper them a great deal that doing the habit will be like choosing to stay alive or to die. This is like smoking. So for a gambler, changing environment doesn't really matter, limiting social circle isn't possible if the person has not decided. So personal conviction or serious health incapacitation is what I think can because I have know a gambler addicted that much, never stopped until health issues came until great beyond.

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September 04, 2022, 05:23:34 PM
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The main points that I could infer from this thread are the addiction to casinos and how to curb them. This is good because many people are facing gambling addictions and more controlling features are still needed. I mean the strict one that all gambling companies will strictly adhere to.

I know what people would be facing when they are addicted, if a good control feature is there, it might help to minimize the harm that could be done, but no self-exclusion feature and others can end the addiction completely except the players themselves.

I have seen a player that removed the feature after a while and things got worse, and another begged me for my own account and funded it to play after using that feature. In light of this, the advice to see a therapist after using any feature is another suggestion.

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September 04, 2022, 06:11:32 PM
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The main points that I could infer from this thread are the addiction to casinos and how to curb them. This is good because many people are facing gambling addictions and more controlling features are still needed. I mean the strict one that all gambling companies will strictly adhere to.

The only flaw I can see on the main point of this thread - self-exclusion -   is the willingness of the subject to undergo such changes.  Since self-exclusion is a voluntary withdrawal of self from gambling activities, majority of the possible problem gambler failed to do it since once addicted to gambling, the uncontrollable urge is already there.  This self-exclusion is effective to people who have the discipline that they can notice changes within themselves.  But sadly majority who fall under addiction never noticed anything until they are already hooked and trapped in a loop of gambling urges.

I know what people would be facing when they are addicted, if a good control feature is there, it might help to minimize the harm that could be done, but no self-exclusion feature and others can end the addiction completely except the players themselves.
I have seen a player that removed the feature after a while and things got worse, and another begged me for my own account and funded it to play after using that feature. In light of this, the advice to see a therapist after using any feature is another suggestion.

The main question on this is, are they willing to do it?  Just like what you stated, some are very willing but it doesn't last long.  I also think that a gambling addict need to see a therapist to guide him the right process of treating addiction.

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September 04, 2022, 06:15:51 PM
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To me it seems that while self exclusion is an important tool for that initial stage of trying to break the habit of using your regular and favorite gambling sites, some deeper changes must take place to the individual for them to be free of the addiction. People often stray into gambling because of boredom or wishing for a financial improvement, but they end up trapped in a vicious cycle. It is better to address the points that led you into gambling in the first place, often getting a better paid or more fulfilling job can free you of many burdens. Finding different hobbies or activities to fill your spare time is also critical because you'll need to find something else, hopefully more productive, to do.

Finding a better paying job might not only gambling problem but it will solve half of everyone problem, but to expect that everyone can get a decent salary is a little bit utopic. And most of the people who has gambling problem is the one who was unable to get a good job in the first place, often because they lack of skills and they can't get any opportunity. So, I think the more possible to left gambling is just to move to another place where you can start a new life, meet new people that does not do gambling and even to the extreme measure, moving to a place where gambling is completely illegal and banned.


Both of you made a point here, excluding yourself to gambling is the best thing that anyone who have this problem should do, no one can help you aside from your own self, it's important to work with your problem with a self-will and if possible seek for assistance from your love ones, they can guide you on the things that you should do for you to be able to completely move away from gambling.

if it's possible, moving away far from any gambling activities should be your goal. If you can find a place where gambling is not active or a place where you can divert your attention to another activities that will help you to stay away.

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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.
That's a good option but difficult for active gamblers to do. The gamblers' repentance comes when they experience defeat and there is a desire to stop completely but when they start holding money again they will return to gambling and this is a fact even I experienced the same thing. The urge to quit is a bit difficult if we still have a gambling mind in our body. Maybe some of them who managed to quit completely are the support of their families or wives where the family takes them to rehab and isolated from the scope for a few months or it can take a year and if this is successful then a gambler can quit completely.

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September 04, 2022, 07:48:34 PM
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Suppose that it was possible to implement the principle disclosed in the "blue paper" and the possibility of blocking access to gambling will be implemented, but what about illegal playgrounds, whose services will undoubtedly be resorted to by a person dependent on gambling?

This will be a hard task. I guess this is up to the affected individual on whether he/she would still go out of their own way to look for gambling platforms that isn't covered by the exclusion. You can raise the concern to the managing body of this program to seek illegal platforms, but without legal grounds/basis and backing, they will never even try to lift a finger against these illegal platforms. In the end, the affected individual—the gambling addict—will have to avoid the urge to gamble at all cost.

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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.
That's a good option but difficult for active gamblers to do. The gamblers' repentance comes when they experience defeat and there is a desire to stop completely but when they start holding money again they will return to gambling and this is a fact even I experienced the same thing. The urge to quit is a bit difficult if we still have a gambling mind in our body. Maybe some of them who managed to quit completely are the support of their families or wives where the family takes them to rehab and isolated from the scope for a few months or it can take a year and if this is successful then a gambler can quit completely.

Gambling should stop when it has a negative effect on your life and those around you. Someone who plays gambling only for entertainment and uses the minimum money that has been provided, of course, it will not interfere, but it will also become a habit. Stopping from gambling when you have lost and spent a lot of money is a very unfortunate thing, because when gambling is still winning, it will not cross the mind to stop.
therefore manage your gambling game well, don't be too greedy and continue to gamble. use minimal funds that will not interfere with the needs and lives of you and your family.

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September 04, 2022, 08:17:29 PM
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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.
Quitting gambling addiction now is honestly difficult but not impossible. It is difficulty because whether you've got the money to change location or not, technological advancements for example - online casinos and sport bookies has made it difficult to not gamble when you are fighting the addiction because you are literally taking it everywhere you go(your mobile phone). One thing that helps is to change your gambling friends to people involved in other enriching activities.

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September 04, 2022, 08:33:46 PM
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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.
Quitting gambling addiction now is honestly difficult but not impossible. It is difficulty because whether you've got the money to change location or not, technological advancements for example - online casinos and sport bookies has made it difficult to not gamble when you are fighting the addiction because you are literally taking it everywhere you go(your mobile phone). One thing that helps is to change your gambling friends to people involved in other enriching activities.

It gets more difficult because of relapses.  People who have regained their control  on gambling after having a personal treatment on gambling addiction is still susceptible to relapse.  And once it happens, it is way more difficult to treat than the first occurrence of gambling addiction.  And I agree, we have to change activities and environment including people.  Having an activity that will make us busy and people who won't remind us of gambling activities is really a good start to change our ways and avoid gambling engagement.
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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.
Quitting gambling addiction now is honestly difficult but not impossible. It is difficulty because whether you've got the money to change location or not, technological advancements for example - online casinos and sport bookies has made it difficult to not gamble when you are fighting the addiction because you are literally taking it everywhere you go(your mobile phone). One thing that helps is to change your gambling friends to people involved in other enriching activities.

It gets more difficult because of relapses.  People who have regained their control  on gambling after having a personal treatment on gambling addiction is still susceptible to relapse.  And once it happens, it is way more difficult to treat than the first occurrence of gambling addiction.  And I agree, we have to change activities and environment including people.  Having an activity that will make us busy and people who won't remind us of gambling activities is really a good start to change our ways and avoid gambling engagement.
As much as possible if you do have history of gambling addiction and have able to completely get rid of it or been treated then you should really be doing your best on avoiding all possible triggers around.
If you do live on a surrounding which is really that prone to gambling activities then it would really be just common sense that you should really be avoiding it so that it wont trigger out that gambling
emotion or intent deep inside of you because being treated on gambling addiction doesnt assure nor mean that you wont be getting addicted once again.Therefore you should
really be that serious on trying to avoid but this is actually that depends on someone because if you are really that serious on quitting gambling or wont be engaging again.

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In my opinion, if a person who has a gambling addiction wants to overcome it, he needs to completely limit himself from gambling. Yes, moving to a new place of residence is a good option to solve this problem, but not everyone has the money and desire to do it. It seems to me that you can just limit your social circle and find a hobby that can replace gambling.
While a fresh start is always recommended for those that have become addicted because I'm quite sure there are many places that hold bad memories that they would like to leave behind, at the same time we need to recognize that something like this is not always possible and while it is the optimal move many times it's not realistic to do, and as such people need to deal with the fact that many people are going to know about their past and they are going to judge them even if they have overcome their problems already.

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Suppose that it was possible to implement the principle disclosed in the "blue paper" and the possibility of blocking access to gambling will be implemented, but what about illegal playgrounds, whose services will undoubtedly be resorted to by a person dependent on gambling?
Blocking access to gambling places whether online or offline is possible and are happening already in fact but indeed that there are still illegal operators that will sprung up but don't worry because authorities are after them. They will still be hunted one by one.

There will also be a penalty for those who will get caught gambling on them. Once they are in jail, they can not play gambling there anymore. It's the same that they are being rehabbed because of gambling addiction. Lots of gamblers are going to be scared because of that fact so they won't attempt to gamble anymore when they know that gambling is restricted on their country.

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September 04, 2022, 09:59:25 PM
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I confess, this type of article content is something relevant and that it can help many people today...

But I keep asking myself, can a self-exclusion system really be extremely useful today?
Have some types of tests been carried out on this system? Is it really viable?

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September 04, 2022, 10:54:08 PM
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Suppose that it was possible to implement the principle disclosed in the "blue paper" and the possibility of blocking access to gambling will be implemented, but what about illegal playgrounds, whose services will undoubtedly be resorted to by a person dependent on gambling?
Blocking access to gambling places whether online or offline is possible and are happening already in fact but indeed that there are still illegal operators that will sprung up but don't worry because authorities are after them. They will still be hunted one by one.

There will also be a penalty for those who will get caught gambling on them. Once they are in jail, they can not play gambling there anymore. It's the same that they are being rehabbed because of gambling addiction. Lots of gamblers are going to be scared because of that fact so they won't attempt to gamble anymore when they know that gambling is restricted on their country.a
Illegal gambling casinos are still a problem even today and most of them are still operating until now and even authorities are hunting them, They still could run illegal casino over and over again by doing clones of the casino until they got caught physically. I think this will be the problem if gambling will become illegal in the whole world.

In my country, The gamblers who are caught in taking part on illegal gambling activity is bailable and the bail amount is low which range from 10$-40$ if caught first time and repeated offenders can go up to $120. It differs from country to country but It will be raised if such global ban happened. Though I think it would be nice to implement that if someone get caught participating on an illegal gambling, they will be required to be evaluated and participate a rehab or a counseling.
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