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June 15, 2022, 10:07:11 AM |
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After Bitcoin plunged below $21,000, prominent crypto hater and investor in gold Peter Schiff shared a chart which, to him, shows that the flagship digital currency is likely to test $5,000. In the meantime, chief of Galaxy Digital Mike Novogratz believes $20,000 may be the bottom for Bitcoin, although he added that it may certainly go lower. "Hard to imagine BTC not testing the lower line" CEO of Euro Pacific Capital and founder of SchiffGold, prominent wealth manager and economist Peter Schiff has taken another jab at Bitcoin, seeing it plummeting from the $30,000 level. Earlier this year, he has several times shared his expectations of Bitcoin falling substantially below the $30,000 level. If it happens, he tweeted at the start of the year, then BTC is likely to go all the way down to $10,000. More details: https://u.today/its-better-to-sell-bitcoin-now-and-rebuy-lower-peter-schiff
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June 15, 2022, 10:18:44 AM |
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I always wonder why people that publicly say they hat bitcoin, then continue to comment on it. To me it seems more that he in reality trades bitcoin and tries to manipulate the price, since there would be no reason at all to recommend people to sell and buy later again if he doesn't want to buy himself.
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June 15, 2022, 10:28:59 AM Last edit: June 15, 2022, 10:42:55 AM by coolcoinz Merited by NotATether (3) |
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Peter was always against bitcoin and this would be very unusual for him to tell you to buy it at any date and price. Don't expect any honest advice from him and this is a perfect example when he comes at -70% from the top and tells you to sell hoping that if enough people listen to him the price will go even lower and he'll be able to start his rant how worthless bitcoin is and how you'd do better buying gold. Gold that he can sell you at a premium. "Hard to imagine BTC not testing the lower line"
It did not test the upper line this cycle, that's why people were waiting for 100k and it didn't happen. I stand by my prediction that this cycle wasn't overbought like 2013 and 2017 and it's not going to correct 85% like those cycles. Unfortunately there was a lot of FUD and manipulation this time from the side of stable coins that dragged us down below the strong support of 23k and it caused a widespread panic among people who bought their first coins in 2021. Remember that the lower we go in price the more we dip into the long term holder territory and you can see in Peter's prediction that he acknowledges that. He knows that every cycle there's more holders who take coins out of exchanges and that is why the lows for bitcoin are always higher and will continue to go higher. He sees the low at 10k, but just in 2020 it was at 3k, so even a permabear like Peter thinks the number of holders is three times what it was 2 years ago.
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June 15, 2022, 10:46:03 AM |
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We all know that Peter Schiff is a gold enthusiast, he talks better about gold but talks bad about bitcoin, he has been talking about bitcoin since many years ago when bitcoin has always surpass gold in price, but not in marketcap. He can try to say what he wants this time around the world too as he has been saying before, but he has failed to be able to analyze that bitcoin may not fall below $14000. Bitcoin volatility is decreasing, but this year will also let us know more about this, but if the volatility is decreasing, I am not expecting bitcoin to even fall below $15000. Yet, all-time-high will occur and holders will make profit again.
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June 15, 2022, 10:49:25 AM |
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I always wonder why people that publicly say they hat bitcoin, then continue to comment on it. To me it seems more that he in reality trades bitcoin and tries to manipulate the price, since there would be no reason at all to recommend people to sell and buy later again if he doesn't want to buy himself.
That's pretty much Peter Schiff's branding and shtick. He wouldn't be as famous as today if it weren't for him talking crap about Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency space like every few days; and I'm pretty sure him and his businesses have heavily benefited off his publicity stunts.
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June 15, 2022, 11:01:05 AM |
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After Bitcoin plunged below $21,000, prominent crypto hater and investor in gold Peter Schiff shared a chart which, to him, shows that the flagship digital currency is likely to test $5,000.
Everyone is still waiting for his prediction of gold at $5000 to come true - unfortunately many will not wait for that day because life is too short for those who believe in fairy tales. The fact that someone constantly mentions in his statements something about which he has a very negative opinion only speaks in favor of Bitcoin being used to promote what he actually promotes all the time, and that is gold. I am of the opinion that such people should not be given attention and emphasize their role where they are actually completely irrelevant. In other words, we should not care what Schiff, Buffett or Gates think about Bitcoin, nor did they invent it, nor does it depend on them.
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June 15, 2022, 11:13:20 AM |
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Oh well, what do you expect from a gold bug like Peter Schiff. For sure we know what is his intention for making this statement.
Any how, it's no secret that this is also a strategy for some of us, we sell and then rebuy lower. But the risk is huge as we don't know if the price will continue to go down and not. Maybe you can buy it higher than you sell. So still up to you, continue to hold and buy or make things complicated by selling today and hopefully the price will nosedive and then you rebuy, it's your choice.
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June 15, 2022, 11:44:17 AM |
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He's a clown and he's predictions are much like similar of us, it wouldn't be perfect or it may have had just a coincidence at all. You may wonder this tweet of him, saying Bitcoin wouldn't hit 50k, and, yes he's wrong on that and as much as the scenario may possible, I can say sarcasm on that tweet of him just recently or even the past opinions of him.
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June 15, 2022, 12:18:54 PM |
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Yea it May be the bottom It May go lower It May go sideways for weeks
Anyone can come up with comments like those.
I would do the opposite to what Schiff says, Buy now and if the market falls further buy more!
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"Hard to imagine BTC not testing the lower line"
It probably will fall lower but if you always have this approach in mind, you will never buy Bitcoin in bottom range. When it falls to $20,000, you wait for $15,000 and when it actually plummets to $15,000, you will then wait for $10,000. After that, $10,000 will never be touched and you will see a rally of Bitcoin. Probably you will buy Bitcoin at $15,000 or $20,000. Because you will not buy Bitcoin in Disbelief phase but will buy it in either Hope or Optimism phase.
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June 15, 2022, 12:52:03 PM |
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I always wonder why people that publicly say they hat bitcoin, then continue to comment on it. To me it seems more that he in reality trades bitcoin and tries to manipulate the price, since there would be no reason at all to recommend people to sell and buy later again if he doesn't want to buy himself.
Correct. They all have an agenda, and use dumb sites like Twitter to manipulate people.
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June 15, 2022, 01:33:49 PM |
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I prefer to listen to the opinion of Michael Saylor, who, despite having huge amounts of bitcoin, continues to believe in the only stable cryptocurrency.
This greatly reassures me, but how the manipulation by the opponents of Bitcoin is going on is already becoming too obvious. In the current market, it is very easy to make negative forecasts, and besides, the feeling of being right can be great to amuse one's vanity.
But surveys show that the majority of bitcoiners still remain in bitcoin hold, as time and experience always show the strength of this crypto asset.
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June 15, 2022, 01:53:36 PM |
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I prefer to listen to the opinion of Michael Saylor, who, despite having huge amounts of bitcoin, continues to believe in the only stable cryptocurrency.
This greatly reassures me, but how the manipulation by the opponents of Bitcoin is going on is already becoming too obvious. In the current market, it is very easy to make negative forecasts, and besides, the feeling of being right can be great to amuse one's vanity.
But surveys show that the majority of bitcoiners still remain in bitcoin hold, as time and experience always show the strength of this crypto asset.
Don't rely on people. There were so many who believed in Musk when he started positing Bitcoin signs and laser eyes... I'm not against Michael Saylor, I really like his conviction, but people change their minds and become scammers, thieves and liars. Do you remember McAfee? There also was this guy Trace Mayer who was a famous bitcoin maxi and got caught shilling altcoins.
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June 15, 2022, 01:59:31 PM |
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Correct. They all have an agenda, and use dumb sites like Twitter to manipulate people.
Luckily T has changed owner and our Lord Savior Mr. Mars will make it big and green, and then he will pump Bitcoin to unimaginable prices so we can all be as rich and happy as he is - proposal for the name of the new company TTEM (Tesla-Twitter - Earth-Mars) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 15, 2022, 02:00:05 PM |
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Why do we still care what Peter Schiff thinks about bitcoin? He's a troll squared. Every year since 2011 he says that bitcoin's going to zero, and every year since that he turns out wrong. But, the worst among all this childish behavior, is that he has no idea what's making bitcoin useful at all. It's 2022 and he still thinks it's a ponzi, bubble, scam, whatever.
Grow up, Peter.
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June 15, 2022, 02:01:01 PM |
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IMO, I think he has a valid point of reasoning, but honestly speaking it's not an easy task to do, because when you bought that Bitcoin during its price peak then you will lose your money if you sell your crypto at this current price, So I guess it is better to hold your Bitcoin now and wait for another shot when the market is bullish again for me thats better.
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June 15, 2022, 02:05:52 PM |
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The current state of the crypto market is not only @Peter Schiff, who thinks strangely, in recent days many investors have the same thoughts as Peter Schiff and Mike Novogratz.
If you search google, you will find more complaints or anticipation of investors against Bitcoin this year, they are targeting the end of this year Bitcoin really plummeted as they wanted, although it will happen the other way around, obviously we will see what happens next with the current crypto market phenomenon.
Some experience has happened to Bitcoin, maybe if what is thought and believed by @Mike Novogratz, maybe they have experienced the action of Bitcoin, of course only we now make the best decisions right now or think the same as they think.
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June 15, 2022, 04:08:38 PM |
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I always wonder why people that publicly say they hat bitcoin, then continue to comment on it.
Instantly I remembered CZ's quote: When people say they don't like something, but they can't stop talking about it, you know it's good.Expressed trust can mean the opposite but it does not want to be known. In addition, sometimes haters still comment because bitcoin can interfere or even destroy their interests.
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June 15, 2022, 04:19:55 PM |
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Peter was always against bitcoin and this would be very unusual for him to tell you to buy it at any date and price. Don't expect any honest advice from him and this is a perfect example when he comes at -70% from the top and tells you to sell hoping that if enough people listen to him the price will go even lower and he'll be able to start his rant how worthless bitcoin is and how you'd do better buying gold. Gold that he can sell you at a premium.
Eh, this guy often just makes graphs with dubious extrapolation parameters and then tells you it's the real thing. There's a thing about prices though - nobody listens to random people and social media accounts. Their primary and sometimes only information source is the news.
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June 15, 2022, 04:30:49 PM |
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After Bitcoin plunged below $21,000, prominent crypto hater and investor in gold Peter Schiff shared a chart which, to him, shows that the flagship digital currency is likely to test $5,000.
Yeah, sure, go ahead, be my guest ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You can start selling all your bitcoins now, and you can do it without telling anyone. Every time I read this kind of things well, it really looks like someone is trying to convince others to do something he has no intention to do in the first place. Maybe we'll go down to $5k, maybe not, nobody knows it.
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