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June 15, 2022, 03:05:21 PM
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I got a reply message from @lovesmayfamilis a few hours ago. The message contains several links to other user profile, wallet explorers, and spreadsheet as well. But I saw something I've never seen before right above the message body, look at this image. It's like an automated warning from a forum, isn't it?



Besides that I also want to ask @lovesmayfamilis, did you receive a message like this when you got a PM from me?

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June 15, 2022, 03:07:31 PM
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No. I noticed it long ago.
Edit- My bad. I noticed it on April- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5393126.0
I was in some pressure IRL and forgot when I noticed it lol.

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June 15, 2022, 03:12:59 PM
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I got a reply message from @lovesmayfamilis a few hours ago. The message contains several links to other user profile, wallet explorers, and spreadsheet as well. But I saw something I've never seen before right above the message body, look at this image. It's like an automated warning from a forum, isn't it?



Besides that I also want to ask @lovesmayfamilis, did you receive a message like this when you got a PM from me?



Yes, I also received the same warning yesterday. But if it wasn't you, I would have simply deleted this post. But I still looked at your letter, and I think, from numerous links that led to extraneous resources, we both received such a warning.
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June 15, 2022, 03:29:02 PM
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I think it's been around for a few years now and I assume it's used where suspicious link removed might've been before (for more established users - but this is just my guess).

Suspicious link removed just taints any links that aren't well recognised or thing known to be bad.
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June 15, 2022, 03:33:48 PM
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It's funny in a really sad sort of way that a forum that does nothing about scammers and members advertising scams would give that kind of warning.  It just seems like such a....small thing to do, almost like a obviously futile and hypocritical gesture, all things considered.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen that before, and I get quite a few PMs.  Are the mods making a judgement call on what constitutes a phishing PM?

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June 15, 2022, 04:18:26 PM
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I never experienced this warning before but I think it's been here since 2018 or around 2017 based on this thread here
Maybe one of the links you received is already reported to moderator as a phishing link.

Would you mind posting the links here so that we can check if the link is phishing or not or if it's just a false positive?

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June 15, 2022, 07:59:00 PM
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Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen that before, and I get quite a few PMs.  Are the mods making a judgement call on what constitutes a phishing PM?
This seems to me like an automated process where a link could be flagged as suspicious if it's hyperlinked or part of an image, I do not think it's a case of mods making a judgement call on what constitutes phishing as that would go against the forun policy of not moderating scams.

This would definitely cause a lot of newer accounts to have unread PMs as many users here, would avoid messages with such warning from a profile they are not acquainted with.

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June 15, 2022, 08:40:05 PM
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I never experienced this warning before but I think it's been here since 2018 or around 2017 based on this thread here
Maybe one of the links you received is already reported to moderator as a phishing link.
I also haven't gotten such a warning so far, it makes me wonder if forums start implementing a similar warning on posts (not PMs) if indeed the link was reported as phishing before?

I hope the OP can also tell us what the message is so we can verify if it really is phishing or maybe it isn't.

This would definitely cause a lot of newer accounts to have unread PMs as many users here, would avoid messages with such warning from a profile they are not acquainted with.
I won't risk opening any link if I get such a warning, maybe I'll delete it or report it to the mod.

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June 15, 2022, 10:06:01 PM
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Hello, this pm is from a newbie who registered recently in the forum, be careful when dealing with new accounts that have not been trusted by any user

Hello, this pm is from a user who has not chatted with you, be careful, scams are likely to emanate from strangers.

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June 16, 2022, 12:05:41 AM
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Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen that before, and I get quite a few PMs.  Are the mods making a judgement call on what constitutes a phishing PM?
Actually there are more pm related warning there not just on the op. I see some thread that removes a link and change to -suspicious link remove-, maybe a list of these websites collected and listed for such purpose and show that notice if used in pm.

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I won't risk opening any link if I get such a warning, maybe I'll delete it or report it to the mod.

If we could automatically detect phishing with 100% accuracy, we'd just prevent the PM from being sent. These warnings can appear on totally legit PMs; they just mean that you should be extra careful. Also, note that often accounts are hacked and used to send phishing PMs, so don't rely on the fact that the sender is trustworthy.

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June 16, 2022, 06:17:48 AM
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Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen that before, and I get quite a few PMs.  Are the mods making a judgement call on what constitutes a phishing PM?

According to theymos, mods don't have access to our PMs unless you use the Report to moderator function.

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June 16, 2022, 06:19:25 AM
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No. I noticed it long ago.
I really didn't realize it was there before.



Yes, I also received the same warning yesterday. But if it wasn't you, I would have simply deleted this post. But I still looked at your letter, and I think, from numerous links that led to extraneous resources, we both received such a warning.
I'm sure the link might not be from a phishing site, which is why I'm sending you a review asking for it. But maybe someone had reported it as phishing so the warning was given.

By the way, congratulations on your acceptance into our team. Smiley
Thanks for that.



Would you mind posting the links here so that we can check if the link is phishing or not or if it's just a false positive?
Here is the message and the link. I changed the username I suspect because I can't draw any conclusions yet.

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Hey lovesmayfamilis, do you think XXX& XXX is an alt that cheats many campaigns?

I found something here, but still hesitate to draw conclusions. I hope you can help to explain it to me.

I have full evidence to link the two with bitcoin transactions in case. Both accounts join the same bounty campaign [Monopoly Millonaire] and I believe they both get paid in bitcoin from Mason Five campaign before being pooled in one address: bc1qs3t5lcnx4qgw0n72ta6thnzwqtwws4468hg835

TX: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qs3t5lcnx4qgw0n72ta6thnzwqtwws4468hg835

bc1q7acs7fj8eg396kpzs2fkzg9wpqfgtd52hd74xg [XXX]
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1q7acs7fj8eg396kpzs2fkzg9wpqfgtd52hd74xg

bc1qs3t5lcnx4qgw0n72ta6thnzwqtwws4468hg835 [XXX]
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qs3t5lcnx4qgw0n72ta6thnzwqtwws4468hg835

They are participating in the same campaign before.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wuivUmF_QRhN7GLlkXMKniWxR25BZBCawEFHqrqh0kM/edit#gid=975084243

XXX No. 22
XXX No. 34


For now, the two accounts are joined and promoting the same campaign [stake.com] so I really want to tell the truth. Is it possible to get enlightenment from you?



If we could automatically detect phishing with 100% accuracy, we'd just prevent the PM from being sent. These warnings can appear on totally legit PMs; they just mean that you should be extra careful. Also, note that often accounts are hacked and used to send phishing PMs, so don't rely on the fact that the sender is trustworthy.
Thanks for the explanation theymos, at least I understand why the warning is on one of my pm's.

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June 16, 2022, 07:45:39 AM
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Hello, this pm is from a newbie who registered recently in the forum, be careful when dealing with new accounts that have not been trusted by any user

Hello, this pm is from a user who has not chatted with you, be careful, scams are likely to emanate from strangers.

Welcome to Bitcointalk.org, the oldest and largest Bitcoin Forum. Here is a glance of what you need to know. Scams are not moderated, ensure to check the Trust rating of a user before involving in trade and possibly use escrow.
Avoid Plagiarism, you will be banned if caught plagerizing.


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May I know what is the meaning of your post? Do these messages also occur when you receive a PM?
Or is it just a suggestion?
Perhaps you wanted to suggest what warnings might be, but forgot to write about it? But the OP didn't ask about that. Smiley


Here is the message and the link. I changed the username I suspect because I can't draw any conclusions yet.
You are funny, you seem to have hidden your users with X's, but they are still in the links. Smiley

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May I know what is the meaning of your post? Do these messages also occur when you receive a PM?
Or is it just a suggestion?
Perhaps you wanted to suggest what warnings might be, but forgot to write about it? But the OP didn't ask about that. Smiley
It's probably some list of warnings he's known all along either in PM or while surfing the forum. But of course it's a different case which may not be constructive to the OP's question without any explanation from him.

If we could automatically detect phishing with 100% accuracy, we'd just prevent the PM from being sent. These warnings can appear on totally legit PMs; they just mean that you should be extra careful. Also, note that often accounts are hacked and used to send phishing PMs, so don't rely on the fact that the sender is trustworthy.
Of course we must remain vigilant against any suspicious attempts at PM, this requires us to be extra careful before opening any link. So it's clear that not all pm containing such warnings are phishing, but must be verified by the recipient of the pm if they really want to open the link. But of course there is a security issue if we receive the warning in PM so it will most likely ignore it if we can't verify that the site is really genuine.

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June 17, 2022, 01:14:57 AM
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You are funny, you seem to have hidden your users with X's, but they are still in the links. Smiley
That's something I did on purpose. Looks like cheater hunter will know what mean for it.  Cheesy

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June 17, 2022, 02:22:27 AM
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Well theymos just explained why some legit PMs have warnings. This is my opinion why some PMs have warnings just like when you received a PM from newbie account. I think that the forum detected the links that is sent through PM as a suspicious link that it could be a scam site, a phishing site even though you know it yourself that it is not a suspicious link. Theymos did say that it means we should be careful and I think it is a warning/reminder for the forum user to be very careful.

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Wouldn't call it feature, have seen newbie messages being flagged as suspicious, this is similar. Regarding this warning being shown to reputed accounts, account may change hands, people tend to be loose with high rank accounts, so this warning is just as important with those accounts.
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June 18, 2022, 05:44:23 AM
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Alright everyone, now I know that this phishing warning in PM seems to have been around for some time and this is no longer the first one a forum member has received. So I have no better reason to keep the thread open, I can close it now.

As theymos says, it's the best way to practice and it's true that we should stay vigilant even if it comes from established users though. We really need to be extra careful about that.

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