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June 21, 2022, 10:37:25 AM
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I know that I should post it in this thread: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2022 Q2) [MODERATED] - but because I am still doing investigation to find out the truth and accuracy of the evidence based on sentiment here, so I decided to start this thread before posting it in the right place.


2: Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue/Active)


Proof found:

https://i.imgur.com/GsKddFw.jpg
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https://i.imgur.com/E82ax9b.jpg
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Related Addresses:
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bc1q7acs7fj8eg396kpzs2fkzg9wpqfgtd52hd74xg - Ezravdb
bc1qs3t5lcnx4qgw0n72ta6thnzwqtwws4468hg835 - JeWay

Explanation:
The two addresses were connected because they were caught sending a number of bitcoin received in one of Hhampuz campaigns (Mason Five), Ezravdb send bitcoin to Jeway.

Proof: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/10b00cde3e1b44870e912bea02f25cd64a21bf3008e43cb693e511fbcd65cb29

Ezravdb & Jeway also cheats another camapaign Hhampuz: [BOUNTY] Monopoly Millionaire MMG | 4 Week $30k Social Media/Sig Bounty! who both join the signature program. On the spreadsheet page, Ezravdb is at number 89 while Jeway is at 74.

https://i.imgur.com/VFEZStb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WzewipS.jpg

Spreadsheet link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14RrRRR6Bpx3iWvcv71W5Epypuyu0KL_a-S-IBHLlMBw/edit#gid=1913642730

Ezravdb & Jeway also cheats camapaign Hhampuz: [BOUNTY] Mason Five | A Brief History of Tomorrow | 2 Week Signature/Twitter $3k who both join the signature program. On the spreadsheet page, Ezravdb is at number 34 while Jeway is at 22.

https://i.imgur.com/sVb5hiP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rSagKc7.jpg

Spreadsheet link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wuivUmF_QRhN7GLlkXMKniWxR25BZBCawEFHqrqh0kM/edit#gid=975084243

Later, Ezravdb & Jeway tried to scam another campaign (Stake.com) by submitting an application. Jeway has already been accepted into the campaign, while Ezravdb seems to have failed.

https://i.imgur.com/besevpC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/07GCgb1.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/k8XJHUm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e9GZ9hL.jpg


So, if you and I use this evidence as a compelling reason to tag Ezravdb & Jeway as a cheater, is this an unreasonable error?

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I know that I should post it in this thread: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2022 Q2) [MODERATED] - but because I am still doing investigation to find out the truth and accuracy of the evidence based on sentiment here, so I decided to start this thread before posting it in the right place.


2: Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue/Active)


Proof found:


[Archive]


[Archive]

Related Addresses:
Code:
bc1q7acs7fj8eg396kpzs2fkzg9wpqfgtd52hd74xg - Ezravdb
bc1qs3t5lcnx4qgw0n72ta6thnzwqtwws4468hg835 - JeWay

Explanation:
The two addresses were connected because they were caught sending a number of bitcoin received in one of Hhampuz campaigns (Mason Five), Ezravdb send bitcoin to Jeway.

Proof: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/10b00cde3e1b44870e912bea02f25cd64a21bf3008e43cb693e511fbcd65cb29

Ezravdb & Jeway also cheats another camapaign Hhampuz: [BOUNTY] Monopoly Millionaire MMG | 4 Week $30k Social Media/Sig Bounty! who both join the signature program. On the spreadsheet page, Ezravdb is at number 89 while Jeway is at 74.




Spreadsheet link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14RrRRR6Bpx3iWvcv71W5Epypuyu0KL_a-S-IBHLlMBw/edit#gid=1913642730

Ezravdb & Jeway also cheats camapaign Hhampuz: [BOUNTY] Mason Five | A Brief History of Tomorrow | 2 Week Signature/Twitter $3k who both join the signature program. On the spreadsheet page, Ezravdb is at number 34 while Jeway is at 22.




Spreadsheet link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wuivUmF_QRhN7GLlkXMKniWxR25BZBCawEFHqrqh0kM/edit#gid=975084243

Later, Ezravdb & Jeway tried to scam another campaign (Stake.com) by submitting an application. Jeway has already been accepted into the campaign, while Ezravdb seems to have failed.








So, if you and I use this evidence as a compelling reason to tag Ezravdb & Jeway as a cheater, is this an unreasonable error?

Someone may be able to quote my post to show the image. I'm still a newbie so I can't post image. Thanks
Quoted for visibility, want to watch the drama first.

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June 22, 2022, 10:19:57 AM
Merited by The Sceptical Chymist (3)
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OP, the evidence you present is much more complete than the evidence I found, it seems much more convincing that my doubts all along not to say the two accounts are connection are in vain. They send bitcoin from account A's wallet to account B wallet before sending them to the exchange wallet, that's solid evidence at this point. Then they also cheated on some of the same campaign which is a violation of any manager's rules for campaign. I have previously notified Hhampuz about these account connection, I hope now they should be excluded from any campaign he manage and any campaign manager should blacklist these two accounts.

want to watch the drama first.
There shouldn't be any drama as the evidence is pretty clear and I have to tag it as a connection account and cheat many campaign. But if it proves otherwise, I'm also willing to revise that tag ASAP.

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Due to the evidence in this thread I tag 2 accounts, but I don't see it effective so far [at least for managers and campaign]. One of the [Jeway] users is still in this campaign and he gets paid weekly even though the evidence mentioned in this thread is quite valid. I'd like to invite @Carrollzinha to share his opinion on why those users are still in your campaign even though they were found guilty and broke the rules?

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Is it because my DT power is not convincing enough, or whether 1 valid red tag can't really prove anything?

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Merited by _BlackStar (1)
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Due to the evidence in this thread I tag 2 accounts, but I don't see it effective so far [at least for managers and campaign]. One of the [Jeway] users is still in this campaign and he gets paid weekly even though the evidence mentioned in this thread is quite valid. I'd like to invite @Carrollzinha to share his opinion on why those users are still in your campaign even though they were found guilty and broke the rules?

♦️ If you receive negative trust while enrolled we reserve the right to check & kick you out from the campaign with no pay
♦️ Members with more than 1 account in this campaign will be kicked out with no pay

Is it because my DT power is not convincing enough, or whether 1 valid red tag can't really prove anything?
You did what you had to do... It's up to the signature campaign manager to remove them from the campaign or not. I don't think it has anything to do with your DT "power" or something along those lines.

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July 18, 2022, 11:52:47 AM
Merited by _BlackStar (1)
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I'd like to invite @Carrollzinha to share his opinion on why those users are still in your campaign even though they were found guilty and broke the rules?

♦️ If you receive negative trust while enrolled we reserve the right to check & kick you out from the campaign with no pay
♦️ Members with more than 1 account in this campaign will be kicked out with no pay

Is it because my DT power is not convincing enough, or whether 1 valid red tag can't really prove anything?
Maybe the second rules is limited to the use of alts in the Stake campaign only. User ‘Jeway’ have two negative feedback on his account now. Based on the first rules, Jeway should be removed from the campaign. I have asked the campaign manager about it, and she said this



Anyway, current week of Stake signature campaign will end today. I think Carrollzinha is going to take some actions today when this week will end. Perhaps, she is going to follow the first rule.

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You did what you had to do... It's up to the signature campaign manager to remove them from the campaign or not. I don't think it has anything to do with your DT "power" or something along those lines.
Yes, as you said should have nothing to do with my DT power. Managers have the right to decide anything, but when they make written rules, it can be a bit unprofessional if they break them, unless they remove them from the rules.



Maybe the second rules is limited to the use of alts in the Stake campaign only.
How not, even though only one account is accepted and is in the campaign, this user wants to cheat the campaign by registering with two accounts. Don't you think it's cheating?

I've also notified the manager about the tags I gave to both accounts, now I'm waiting to see what the manager will do for them or at least one of the accounts still in the campaign. If managers don't want to hire spammers or users who break the rules, then they shouldn't hire cheaters either.

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Due to the evidence in this thread I tag 2 accounts, but I don't see it effective so far [at least for managers and campaign]. One of the [Jeway] users is still in this campaign and he gets paid weekly even though the evidence mentioned in this thread is quite valid.


Is it because my DT power is not convincing enough, or whether 1 valid red tag can't really prove anything?
Come on, mate. If someone doesn't have any problem attaching their brand to a neg tagged user, that's their choice. You have done your job by tagging the accounts. Did you tag them because you want them to be kicked out from the campaign? I'm pretty much sure your motive was to expose them as alt only. You feedback is still valid to expose them as alt. You don't need to be worried anymore I think.

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How not, even though only one account is accepted and is in the campaign, this user wants to cheat the campaign by registering with two accounts. Don't you think it's cheating?
He made the attempt of cheating in Stake campaign, but he failed to do it as the campaign manager didn't accept his alt account ‘Ezravdb’. However, he has made the abuse in other campaign in the past. In that case, JeWay really deserve to be kicked out from the campaign. JeWay was only active in the Gambling Discussion board since last month, and he hasn't shown any contribution to the forum. Moreover, he is using his alts account to take the benefits from the signature campaign here. I just left negative feedback to his accounts.

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The user tried to break the rules of the campaign. JeWay/Ezravdb has abused in some other campaign before. It will encourage other abusers to do the same thing if the campaign manager doesn't take any action against him.

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How not, even though only one account is accepted and is in the campaign, this user wants to cheat the campaign by registering with two accounts. Don't you think it's cheating?

I've also notified the manager about the tags I gave to both accounts, now I'm waiting to see what the manager will do for them or at least one of the accounts still in the campaign. If managers don't want to hire spammers or users who break the rules, then they shouldn't hire cheaters either.

Yes, according to your evidence, he participated in bounty campaigns with multiple accounts, and that is definitely cheating. The important thing is that the cheater is detected and that the bounty manager is aware of the facts. Now it is up to the bounty manager whether he wants to keep such members in his campaign or not.

Many bounty managers decide on each participant on an individual basis, regardless of negative tags. And that's okay. Because sometimes trust scores, even from DT members, can be unfounded or unfair, so it is better for each manager to decide what works best for his campaign.

BTW, since the suspected members did not comment or try to explain their side of the story, I left a few negatives on their accounts as well.

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July 18, 2022, 08:07:35 PM
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Yes, as you said should have nothing to do with my DT power. Managers have the right to decide anything, but when they make written rules, it can be a bit unprofessional if they break them, unless they remove them from the rules.
I understand your point too, but let's leave that for the Campaign manager to decide since they are the ones spending the money on the campaign. Pushing too hard for it may lead to unwanted drama.

♦️ If you receive negative trust while enrolled we reserve the right to check & kick you out from the campaign with no pay
There's nothing that suggests that as soon as someone receives negative feedback, they will be kicked out of the campaign ASAP.

I have seen a couple of managers (not 1xbit) accept certain users with negative rep.

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Come on, mate. If someone doesn't have any problem attaching their brand to a neg tagged user, that's their choice.
Nice, you're right. But let's take a look at one of the suggestions on signature guidelines, it would be great for every manager to consider. So we don't have to worry too much about that because the campaign manager also has a perspective on why participants are accepted or not on a case by case basis. But if the tag was clearly caused by cheats in some of the previous campaigns, then accepting it in the campaign is a bad idea.

• Consider not accepting users with negative feedback. It never looks good when users have negative feedback and 99% of the time the feedback is there for a good reason, but if you want to take this on a case by case basis then that's down to you.

Did you tag them because you want them to be kicked out from the campaign?
Nope, it's a bad idea and I've never thought of anything like that.

I'm pretty much sure your motive was to expose them as alt only. You feedback is still valid to expose them as alt. You don't need to be worried anymore I think.
You're right, the motive is to find more cheater and tell managers that they shouldn't work with cheater. My question is only because there are rules stating prohibition, otherwise what's the point of rules?

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I have seen a couple of managers (not 1xbit) accept certain users with negative rep.
Remember, it is at their discretion on a case by case basis. But back to the best advice, don't give cheater a chance to promote your campaign as they might as well scam you. So I'm done here.

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50 merit, for what?  Shocked

The 50 merit for that post is probably his way of venting frustrations after being kicked out of Stake campaign.
It is unlikely that we'll see these accounts used on the forum anymore.

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if traced from the blockchain transactions of the two accounts. both accounts may be part of a fairly high-ranking farm account.

I'm still not sure about the blockchain transaction proof I got. but maybe this could be another clue for another investigation from @JeWay account.

transactions that occur are seen with almost the same pattern and time. all of them send using the new wallet before sending them to the main wallet.
account wallet => new wallet => main wallet

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davincicode666|0x388c8907A6287FB46924Ecb756Aa05d71ab2AB3E|0xc8CD5f01d45d15C92fC0F1F92468a29588c2d628|
adiebitsler|0x27c0431D33eaceC7C1224B4Ed79cFda5Cf73f895|0xD5F6531b72cDa6e9148d30ECCCE23e8C9AC3786B|
Ezravdb|0x0b4300a8f1aFfad5459688edE59fDD3731f8E4aa|0xCDafC1537094724C67a0521293538356a7a81974|
domoy77|0xd08aC3B2Cc3f414Bb995C72176663E1D9E47A041|0x84ff4F9349bB0BA1B393468e30A5Ff175c010DC5|
BlackBaron|0x7c789F514F2bf007eB810318DEEEb859B3394658|0x8258B12419DaFf46c708f0652371f5339855610a|
JeWay|0x07B5D66C93F33249EB87c9031A563032681e36cB|0x08c66fA34656099cfB762265fEc6Be855d97e7b6|

there are more, some accounts with full member and Senior Member rankings.

Triangular transactions such as these may not be strong evidence of a farm account connection. but looking at the transaction times and transaction patterns which are almost the same, I assume everything is indeed connected.

I'm trying to find other evidence, but nothing for now. but for the linkage, these accounts join in the same bounty campaign. I'm sure there is.
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I'm trying to find other evidence, but nothing for now. but for the linkage, these accounts join in the same bounty campaign. I'm sure there is.
And it looks like we're going to do another big cleanup now that you've discovered this oddity. I will do a thorough check of all the addresses in the above transaction, for sure we will get more accounts connected now. Thank you for telling, Will update the list soon.

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July 19, 2022, 06:08:25 PM
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50 merit, for what?  Shocked
The 50 merit for that post is probably his way of venting frustrations after being kicked out of Stake campaign.
It is unlikely that we'll see these accounts used on the forum anymore.
Maybe JeWay dumped 50 merits on ‘Little Mouse’ post as he is the only one who hasn't left negative feedback on JeWay's account Wink. Anyway, he (JeWay) was aware of this thread. But he never tried to defend himself. Carrollzinha has removed him from the signature campaign, we have lost one spammer from gambling discussion board Tongue.

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I'm trying to find other evidence, but nothing for now. but for the linkage, these accounts join in the same bounty campaign. I'm sure there is.
And it looks like we're going to do another big cleanup now that you've discovered this oddity. I will do a thorough check of all the addresses in the above transaction, for sure we will get more accounts connected now. Thank you for telling, Will update the list soon.
The above evidence won't be enough to connect those accounts with each other. Perhaps, the user has used ‘new address’ as a middleman so that no one can link those accounts directly. I hope you guys will find some direct evidence of those accounts connection. I appreciate your efforts.

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July 19, 2022, 06:46:14 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2022, 07:01:33 PM by _BlackStar
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The above evidence won't be enough to connect those accounts with each other. Perhaps, the user has used ‘new address’ as a middleman so that no one can link those accounts directly. I hope you guys will find some direct evidence of those accounts connection. I appreciate your efforts.
Why do you think so, did you try to do more research from the above transactions? Now let's see what I found based on the available evidence here: https://bscscan.com/address/0x2df9a2f3298d505fa87678c8bc9016acd7a55f41

16 accounts connected: account wallet in bounty => new wallet => main wallet

Strategy: Join the same campaign, get paid, sell it to the exchange, and accumulate all BNB to the main wallet.

Code:
Main wallet: 0x2df9a2f3298d505fa87678c8bc9016acd7a55f41

Code:
cvasy
Ten98
davincicode666
adiebitsler
Ezravdb
domoy77
BlackBaron
JeWay
marcous
Surrapatt
2tang
fadil46
imamusma
whiteblue
alisonwonder
arifteguhr


1. cvasy
Code:
- 0x09095C90861D28a67B737c82e07652fBA42083ec
- 0x1381498C0d0A47192EeD50169561bfd3eb99C7fc

2. Ten98
Code:
- 0xDcEf5FeD5a341c4bf80489577806E39Aa80fDca6
- 0xf9914603EDdB08D4D938BcAE24b19dF17013dFD9

3. davincicode666
Code:
- 0x388c8907A6287FB46924Ecb756Aa05d71ab2AB3E
- 0xc8CD5f01d45d15C92fC0F1F92468a29588c2d628

4. adiebitsler
Code:
- 0x27c0431D33eaceC7C1224B4Ed79cFda5Cf73f895
- 0xD5F6531b72cDa6e9148d30ECCCE23e8C9AC3786B

5. Ezravdb
Code:
- 0x0b4300a8f1aFfad5459688edE59fDD3731f8E4aa
- 0xCDafC1537094724C67a0521293538356a7a81974

6. domoy77
Code:
- 0xd08aC3B2Cc3f414Bb995C72176663E1D9E47A041
- 0x84ff4F9349bB0BA1B393468e30A5Ff175c010DC5

7. BlackBaron
Code:
- 0x7c789F514F2bf007eB810318DEEEb859B3394658
- 0x8258B12419DaFf46c708f0652371f5339855610a

8. JeWay
Code:
- 0x07B5D66C93F33249EB87c9031A563032681e36cB
- 0x08c66fA34656099cfB762265fEc6Be855d97e7b6

9. marcous
Code:
- 0x6E62AD4f245f69315A66ffD620dc0Ac1d8dE948d
- 0x83C13d08971286Fb9bF07f04056F57821e56f7C4
- 0x0b38cF288fCAB87684007EaB2594F29C85ADC325

10. Surrapatt
Code:
- 0xD699A9144078Df8B93Faff615965626166Bc7617
- 0x09095C90861D28a67B737c82e07652fBA42083ec

11. 2tang
Code:
- 0xC86a5d29d2Ff6724A4F9484a99918E2eFF6d0a93
- 0x126aD933de593c7e5C1238E4971bbf43714Bfc2d

12. fadil46
Code:
- 0x8bfFF3831d356444a434823cf6026FC50c4b1faD
- 0x5a499f5b444910aD8E9AD7459255992CF4fE4Df5

13. imamusma
Code:
- 0xCe2b095Ad4499f3751d54e0C7C363300Db4A8ac3
- 0x6e2Af536D77055fD45CDB72D03C3835c7691fBc7

14. whiteblue
Code:
- 0xF2847891CC55c9a158EA63270ceba1611AF6d9c1
- 0xF683421B3cd7e44b1205a5ca0c1A832B61343E8A

15. alisonwonder
Code:
- 0x277D24300684CAE24dC410eFeBd13eC3b835C503
- 0xff22c629a00A6cF91A361fe6d0fDB6d3F4F2F3E4

16. arifteguhr
Code:
- 0x2211f17Ca8c70990DB9f430Fc2687a6CF3B895f4
- 0x054d2B0E88E82E438606a7cAD6096B50AD7D1655

I really believe that all the accounts I got based on the evidence above are linked to each other and join the same campaign [quite a lot of campaigns]. This is the big of farmers accounts, so I think they all deserve a negative tag now.

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July 19, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
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I really believe that all the accounts I got based on the evidence above are linked to each other and join the same campaign [quite a lot of campaigns]. This is the big of farmers accounts, so I think they all deserve a negative tag now.

Will you decide the fate of 16 accounts for a transactions outside of the forum? Do you know that some bounty hunters buy from other bounty hunters after distribution? Are you also aware that some bounty managers also buy shitcoins from hunters? All of this occurs outside of the forum. Not saying same thing happened here but this COULD be the case in the accounts below, I believe that painting red is overkill! I expected to see a bunch of newbies farming, but this is different. You might also want to slowdown buddy, you've been painting a lot lately.

I will investigate this case further and provide feedback if I discover anything new.

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_BlackStar, I don't know how you linked all of the above accounts as cheates and stabbed every single one of their ass with a red pen, that's something awful to see in my opinion. Some of the accounts are from the local Indonesian community and this is really sad for me to watch.

I'm not against how you expose cheaters accounts, but tagging the 16 accounts above still requires clear evidence to avoid being off-target. Maybe you need to consider some reasons before tag them all because as one of the local Indonesian community, I am very sad to know that some of the above accounts are red tagged if it is not proven to be true. Give them a chance to explain the problem, so there's at least a pause before you stab ass all of them. This is my friendly request to you, while I appreciate your forum contribution. Thank you.

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_BlackStar, I don't know how you linked all of the above accounts as cheates and stabbed every single one of their ass with a red pen, that's something awful to see in my opinion.

Funny how English Patrol Scuad started the thread but it's _BlackStar who is asking all the questions...  Roll Eyes

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