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August 04, 2022, 09:12:26 AM
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There is also one of my self-moderated Champions League football threads too  FOOTBALL: UEFA Champions League 2022/23: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279461.0

If a user wants to create an identical or similar thread on a topic already being discussed, I suppose they an do what they feel is correct and then moderators can also decide to do what they feel is correct. If the new thread was created on the basis it is not self-moderated then the signature spammers will probably eventually flood it.

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I saw there's a user create new thread about UEFA champions league because he don't like the previous thread that self moderated. I don't think @buwaytress is misused his privilege to delete every post that he doesn't like or someone rooting a club that @buwaytress not fan. That's the reason why I think creating a new thread of this discussion isn't needed.

However, I already report the post

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting topics in the local language boards if they're translated and re-posting marketplace topics in the altcoin boards if altcoins are accepted).

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I went through a few of those megatrends, I wonder if even 5% of the post would qualify as being about gambling.
Since I'm pretty sure a lot of the posters don't actually gamble or don't have a clue how to place a bet other than on the winner, most of the discussions there could be classified as football fans talking about their team, one post in one hundred talks about spreads, about handicaps about anything, it's about X beat Y so they might beat Z, A is a great player or bad one, xerox copies.

That being said, I've been always curious, in that whole mess of a board, is there a horse racing topic as I haven't seen one and it's the only spot I actually gamble on, not just watch.


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August 04, 2022, 10:57:39 AM
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I went through a few of those megatrends, I wonder if even 5% of the post would qualify as being about gambling.
Since I'm pretty sure a lot of the posters don't actually gamble or don't have a clue how to place a bet other than on the winner, most of the discussions there could be classified as football fans talking about their team, one spot in one hundred talks about spreads, about handicaps about anything, it's about X beat Y so they might beat Z, A is a great player or bad one, xerox copies.

That being said, I've been always curious, in that whole mess of a board, is there a horse racing topic as I haven't seen one and it's the only spot I actually gamble on, not just watch.


Unfortunately, only a few people out of 100 discuss odds and predictions. The real gamblers can be found in the Sportbets.io threads, where discussions revolve around market options, lost bets, won bets, and expected predictions. I tried as much as I could to share my tips and odds as they should be.

The last time I bet on a house race, I swore I'd never do it again because the first wager was really good but I ended up with nothing at the end of the day. It was a virtual horse race, BTW Grin.

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August 04, 2022, 02:37:53 PM
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Since I have several threads there I am well placed to comment. A tiny minority of the posts and threads in the gambling and gambling discussion boards are actually about betting odds. The mere mention of spreads, handicaps and odds is a rarity in itself.

You are right most of the posters probably have never placed a bet on anything except a winner and probably do not know how betting has evolved. Maybe having a dedicated non-betting sports board would be the way forward.


I went through a few of those megatrends, I wonder if even 5% of the post would qualify as being about gambling.
Since I'm pretty sure a lot of the posters don't actually gamble or don't have a clue how to place a bet other than on the winner, most of the discussions there could be classified as football fans talking about their team, one spot in one hundred talks about spreads, about handicaps about anything, it's about X beat Y so they might beat Z, A is a great player or bad one, xerox copies.

That being said, I've been always curious, in that whole mess of a board, is there a horse racing topic as I haven't seen one and it's the only spot I actually gamble on, not just watch.



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August 04, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
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I saw there's a user create new thread about UEFA champions league because he don't like the previous thread that self moderated. I don't think @buwaytress is misused his privilege to delete every post that he doesn't like or someone rooting a club that @buwaytress not fan. That's the reason why I think creating a new thread of this discussion isn't needed.
This is usually done by people who pretend to be gamblers just to bump up their post numbers for signature campaigns.
There are even some experienced members who are using this practice, and I am all for reporting this duplicate topics to moderators and deleting them.
Problem is that gambling section is a mess and moderators are not so strict there, but you can try reporting.

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August 04, 2022, 07:10:12 PM
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Since I have several threads there I am well placed to comment. A tiny minority of the posts and threads in the gambling and gambling discussion boards are actually about betting odds. The mere mention of spreads, handicaps and odds is a rarity in itself.

You are right most of the posters probably have never placed a bet on anything except a winner and probably do not know how betting has evolved. Maybe having a dedicated non-betting sports board would be the way forward.
What exactly will the "non-betting sports" discussion board be about? Rumors? Whether it's transfer news or not, I don't think having team news, updates, injuries, and predictions on a single thread is a bad idea, but I'd prefer if a single thread was dedicated solely to odds and predictions!

I saw there's a user create new thread about UEFA champions league because he don't like the
This is usually done by people who pretend to be gamblers just to bump up their post numbers for signature campaigns.
There are even some experienced members who are using this practice, and I am all for reporting this duplicate topics to moderators and deleting them.
Problem is that gambling section is a mess and moderators are not so strict there, but you can try reporting.
I'm surprised that a member who has only posted in the NBA thread and isn't a big football fan would open a duplicate thread of the three European competitions (UCL, Europa, and Conference league) for most 1xbit spammers to flood on; this isn't a good sign. I'll try to report the thread, but I doubt the mod will do anything because the OP isn't wearing a signature.

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August 04, 2022, 11:12:13 PM
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What exactly will the "non-betting sports" discussion board be about? Rumors? Whether it's transfer news or not, I don't think having team news, updates, injuries, and predictions on a single thread is a bad idea, but I'd prefer if a single thread was dedicated solely to odds and predictions!
The "Gambling Discussion" board staying put but a dedicated "Sports Discussion" board created where spreads, odds and bets are not the basis. Various sports can have their own threads within the board. Just an idea to differentiate between gambling and sports talk threADS...  Grin

I'm surprised that a member who has only posted in the NBA thread and isn't a big football fan would open a duplicate thread of the three European competitions (UCL, Europa, and Conference league) for most 1xbit spammers to flood on; this isn't a good sign. I'll try to report the thread, but I doubt the mod will do anything because the OP isn't wearing a signature.
I do not know the background behind the user and what reasons he had for starting another football related thread (Champions League) other than citing it was not self-moderated... but as you said the spammers will eventually flood it.

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I'm surprised that a member who has only posted in the NBA thread and isn't a big football fan would open a duplicate thread of the three European competitions (UCL, Europa, and Conference league) for most 1xbit spammers to flood on; this isn't a good sign. I'll try to report the thread, but I doubt the mod will do anything because the OP isn't wearing a signature.
I also know one member who created duplicate self moderated Premier League topic...so I am wondering why do we need to have duplicate topics like that when this is against forum rules?
This member have a bad habit of creating duplicate self moderated topics for other leagues and I think this should be reported to moderators, or he will continue with his bad practice.
It's time to clean gambling board from spammers.

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However, I already report the post

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting topics in the local language boards if they're translated and re-posting marketplace topics in the altcoin boards if altcoins are accepted).
But the question is: will a report calling upon that rule help and have the thread deleted? Since no action has been taken yet, looks like it won't. Does that even constitute duplicate posting in the eyes of the moderators? If I make a post in this thread and I copy it and post it somewhere else on a different forum board, that's duplicate posting. Having multiple threads about the same topic, like the Champions League in this case, might not be considered a rule violation. 

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igehhh, I just realized that I've been on the list of members who you think have spammed the gambling board. I don't know how you rate the quality of my posts but I can only say that every post I make is based on true knowledge and information. I don't know how this has to happen, but I just really wanted to apologize if you thought I was a spammer.

I just hope you can consider removing me from your list by reviewing the quality of my posts again, but I admit that I am a spammer trying to do and understand how to use forum properly. I don't want to show myself right while others are wrong about how to rate me, but I just hope this will be a good reminder for me to maintain the best quality when posting. Thanks.

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igehhh, I just realized that I've been on the list of members who you think have spammed the gambling board. I don't know how you rate the quality of my posts but I can only say that every post I make is based on true knowledge and information. I don't know how this has to happen, but I just really wanted to apologize if you thought I was a spammer.

I just hope you can consider removing me from your list by reviewing the quality of my posts again, but I admit that I am a spammer trying to do and understand how to use forum properly. I don't want to show myself right while others are wrong about how to rate me, but I just hope this will be a good reminder for me to maintain the best quality when posting. Thanks.

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Spammer is just a term for those who post something useless, but that predicate can be changed due to its relative nature. For now I just think the middle ground is that you need to wait for igehhh's response to your request but this is just a list that shouldn't affect any user's reputation unless they will be ignored by a lot of people.

It's a bit unpleasant when you have a spammer status, but it won't always be pinned on someone when the quality of their posts continues to improve. I've proven that quality can be improved with awareness and will, but you can't stop someone from giving you bad judge on one or two things including post quality. So be patient, wait for igehhh to respond to that. By the way, congratulations for your new rank.

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It's really up to the campaign manager to guard against this sort of spam.  I really don't see much difference between this and most of the petty dramas that sig campaign folks start in order to post for pay.  At least the gambling section is not so much crypto related so it's somewhat irrelevant.  I feel like there is a never ending list of spammers though, so getting mad at them is a fool's errand.  Look at the campaign managers and hold them responsible for paying users to post absolute shit.

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This is nice. A monthly update is making this thread unique. As I saw above, in the case of Indah resqi, any member of the forum, especially wearing a signature and getting paid weekly who sees their name in the spammers list would be concerned and tend to change. Else it could result to the manager of the company they are promoting to remove them from campaign.

In the updated list, if you could update them as not a code but name with hyperlink to the profit it would be nice and easy for others to view the profile easily.

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igehhh, I just realized that I've been on the list of members who you think have spammed the gambling board. I don't know how you rate the quality of my posts but I can only say that every post I make is based on true knowledge and information. I don't know how this has to happen, but I just really wanted to apologize if you thought I was a spammer.

I just hope you can consider removing me from your list by reviewing the quality of my posts again, but I admit that I am a spammer trying to do and understand how to use forum properly. I don't want to show myself right while others are wrong about how to rate me, but I just hope this will be a good reminder for me to maintain the best quality when posting. Thanks.

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I have yet to tag anyone on that list; it was only created to make some of the members aware that their position on the gambling board was inadequate, as well as to allow managers to pay more attention to them and to make them sit up because there is always room for improvement. I review their posts on a weekly basis, and those who deserved to be removed were also removed from the list. As time passes, I will tag those I deem appropriate.

P.S. They are only poor gambling board posters who do not deserve to be paid for all the nonsense they post.

I'll go over your post history and take the appropriate action.

In the updated list, if you could update them as not a code but name with hyperlink to the profit it would be nice and easy for others to view the profile easily.
A self-awareness tag to only those included.

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It's sad that nobody is talking about this thread in the gambling section because I wasn't aware of this useful topic. I'm looking for ignore lists of gambling spammers, because I can't bear anymore scrolling dozens of garbage posts each time to find a rather interesting one.
So if anyone is interested in sharing one of these, don't hesitate to send me it through PM, I promise to keep it confidential.

But to be honest I think the simplest solution would be to open a sub section without visible signatures like the Ivory Tower or Serious discussions (or to hire 4 or 5 volunteer moderators fully dedicated to the gambling section).

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Any list is handy but I think the problems with most lists would be about opinions of the one doing the compiling versus the opinions of those doing the reading and let us not forget there are those that appear on any such list but would staunchly defend their position and ask to be removed.

What cannot be denied by the majority would be obvious candidates that have consistently spammed but the remaining on any list could conflict as multiple cases could be put forward to fight allegations as they make their cases.

It's sad that nobody is talking about this thread in the gambling section because I wasn't aware of this useful thread. I'm looking for ignore lists of gambling spammers, because I can't bear scrolling dozens of garbage posts each time to find a rather interesting one.
So if anyone is interested in sharing one of these, don't hesitate to send me it through PM, I promise to keep that confidential.

But to be honest I think the simplest solution would be to open a sub section without visible signatures like the Ivory Tower or Serious discussions (or to hire 4 or 5 volunteer moderators fully dedicated to this section).

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I know this list won't have any impact on my reputation, but either way I don't expect people to ignore me just because I'm on the list. I'm not even complaining about how someone wants to call me a spammer or want to report my posts for deletion, but I don't want them to ignore me just because some posts don't make sense. I also don't want to be under constant reproached for my past spamming habits, so that has to change now.


I have yet to tag anyone on that list; it was only created to make some of the members aware that their position on the gambling board was inadequate, as well as to allow managers to pay more attention to them and to make them sit up because there is always room for improvement.
I believe when you want to flag everyone on the list because they are considered spammers then this thread should be moved to the reputation board for something called your blacklist. But I'm glad you still care enough about how many people are willing to make changes, as evidenced by the way you delete one of the users on your list.

I'll go over your post history and take the appropriate action.
I'd be happy to hear that. Thanks.



I have a great list for you if you really want to identify more spammers on the gambling board, but because the list is long, it's only the top 100 in the last 34 days I've add in the list.

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September 03, 2022, 09:20:52 PM
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Having lots of posts doesn't mean they are spammers, on the other hand having few posts doesn't mean they are good posters either. Quality is judged based on what you write and it really depends on the knowledge and perspective of everyone who judges. There's no set standard for it, but maybe when it's written over and over again on the same board or thread then they can be considered spammers.

You can tell the spammer's habits, they are quite easy to spot especially when they are just hiding on boards that hundreds or thousands other spammers like. Honestly I was surprised when you said yourself a spammer but in fact you rank up. That's kind of funny.

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I have a great list for you if you really want to identify more spammers on the gambling board, but because the list is long, it's only the top 100 in the last 34 days I've add in the list.
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100. JollyGood [95]
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434. indah rezqi [34]
Are you saying according to your great list:

I stand at #100 therefore = spammer?
you stand at #434 therefore you = spammer?

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Having lots of posts doesn't mean they are spammers, on the other hand having few posts doesn't mean they are good posters either. Quality is judged based on what you write and it really depends on the knowledge and perspective of everyone who judges. There's no set standard for it, but maybe when it's written over and over again on the same board or thread then they can be considered spammers.

You can tell the spammer's habits, they are quite easy to spot especially when they are just hiding on boards that hundreds or thousands other spammers like. Honestly I was surprised when you said yourself a spammer but in fact you rank up. That's kind of funny.
That is what I am asking him, did he call himself a spammer yet at the same time contradict himself by saying he was not  a spammer or a lesser spammer? And all those on his great list (including myself) also spammers?

What am I reading from him?

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