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Question: Who will lift the Champions League 2023/24 trophy?
Real Madrid -- Ancelotti is God - 1 (14.3%)
Manchester City -- Defend the treble - 5 (71.4%)
PSG -- No Messi, No Mercy - 0 (0%)
Bayern Munich -- Because they can - 1 (14.3%)
Chelsea -- Roulette - 0 (0%)
Newcastle -- First Time Lucky - 0 (0%)
Barcelona -- Xavi shows them how it's done - 0 (0%)
Juventus -- Serie A penalties, no problem - 0 (0%)
Other -- I like losing money on outrights - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 7

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October 05, 2022, 05:59:48 AM
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Ajax and Liverpool have already scored goals in their matches, I think that the Rangers did not have high hopes of winning before the match, but Napoli probably counted on points, let's see what they can do. And while I'm writing, Napoli is already leveling the score, this is an important goal for Napoli. Bayer scores Porto, this is unexpected, I thought that Porto would be able to keep his net dry, but I already see that the VAR canceled the goal.
I am quite upset in my favorite team, Ajax, who played so poorly tonight against an out-of-form Napoli club. Somewhere in Ajax, something is awry. I'm totally at a loss for words. Napoli wasn't flawless tonight, but Ajax made Napoli perfect as they behaved like a village team. Tonight, Ajax performed utterly below average; there was zero pushing. I've never witnessed a performance quite so tragic.

It's football, I didn't expect Napoli to humiliate Ajax in the way but Napoli did the thing is that I didn't get to watch the match I would have seen what's wrong with the team or tactics of the coach. Ajax hasn't been themselves now for games now they have lost game's I expected them to win.
Liverpool are not what they use to be again, scoring so early and couldn't force in more goals into Rangers post, they dictated that game very but they should have scored more imop good one they won by the way.
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October 05, 2022, 06:22:55 AM
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Honestly I think Club Brugge is the most surprise team in the Champions league so far. They are in a group of death, but easily top of the group with 3 won out of 3 games, and also scored 7 goals, 0 conceded. They’ve been outstanding in the UCL this season. Amazing achievement for such a club, especially considering the oppositions they’ve faced. If they keep performing this way, I don’t see why they won’t qualify for the next round.
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October 05, 2022, 08:18:19 AM
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Honestly I think Club Brugge is the most surprise team in the Champions league so far. They are in a group of death, but easily top of the group with 3 won out of 3 games, and also scored 7 goals, 0 conceded. They’ve been outstanding in the UCL this season. Amazing achievement for such a club, especially considering the oppositions they’ve faced. If they keep performing this way, I don’t see why they won’t qualify for the next round.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is a group of death... Brugge is doing an amazing job, but that also has to do with the other clubs performing badly. Atletico is far from the team they once used to be. Leverkusen can't be taken too seriously right now and they also beat Atletico in the last group stage game.

And Porto is also quite doable for a team like Brugge. No doubt that it is still a surprise in the sense that nobody would have expected them to sit at 7:0 goals and 9 points after three games, but I would still have considered Brugge to be the potential winner in all of the three games. Atletico lacks consistency so hard, Leverkusen is totally out of shape and Porto is a reasonably strong team, but can also be beaten in a good game.

If Brugge now manages to get one more point, I would say they'll qualify for the next round. A lot needs to go wrong such that they end up as third.

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October 05, 2022, 09:24:44 AM
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Today we will have the game Benfica vs PSG. How will your bets be?

We know that PSG has a fantastic team and is much better than Benfica, so they have all the conditions to win this game.
Benfica, on the other hand, has had good performances in the Champions League games, and even managed to beat Juventus. Can they surprise PSG?

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October 05, 2022, 09:39:54 AM
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Today we will have the game Benfica vs PSG. How will your bets be?

We know that PSG has a fantastic team and is much better than Benfica, so they have all the conditions to win this game.
Benfica, on the other hand, has had good performances in the Champions League games, and even managed to beat Juventus. Can they surprise PSG?

I also wonder after checking the betting market  PSG win 1.75 is this normal? we know Benfica play without defeat + Home team
But are they overconfident against PSG  Huh based on the betting market the bookie predicts PSG won by no more than 1 goal
I will check other bets for example Both teams to score, I was inspired when PSG conceded against Maccabi.

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October 05, 2022, 10:36:25 AM
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Honestly I think Club Brugge is the most surprise team in the Champions league so far. They are in a group of death, but easily top of the group with 3 won out of 3 games, and also scored 7 goals, 0 conceded. They’ve been outstanding in the UCL this season. Amazing achievement for such a club, especially considering the oppositions they’ve faced. If they keep performing this way, I don’t see why they won’t qualify for the next round.

Club Brugge plays really good in this group and i think with this win they locked their play off place,i think some serious stuff needs to happen so that they dont pass the group. Watched the match yesterday its like there is a wall on the goal the ball just wont go inside their net,even Atletico Madrid missed the penalty and some goals were dissallowed.

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October 05, 2022, 11:30:15 AM
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today we will also have some great games. in my case the games that will be good to watch and bet are:

Benfica - Paris Saint-Germain

this will be a game in which PSG will be forced to play very seriously, there is a high risk that PSG will lose points in this game, if benfica manage to play well then they will cause PSG big headaches and they can get a draw , anyway this is a good game to watch but I won't bet

Manchester City - FC Copenhagen

this is another good game to watch and I already bet on City to win this game

Chelsea - AC Milan

this is another great game to watch, i'm still thinking whether or not to bet on this game, i think milan despite having injured players they can win this game

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October 05, 2022, 11:34:26 AM
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I still can’t believe how Barcelona lost the match against inter with over than 72% possession, inter milan had few chances only to score and many of them were not that dangerous but maintained that one goal till the end and now they are ahead of barcelona with difference of 3 points, but for the return game in camp nou stadium things will be different and I’m betting all my luck for the 3 points of the game to stay at home, we won’t see a beautiful champions league without barcelona

What a bad luck from Barcelona, dominated the game almost during the whole match but failed to create some great goal chances. Dominated ball possession with such big percentage but created 2 shots on goal only is unbelievable. It proves that Inter with less ball possession were more effective to maximize their chance. Barcelona needs to win at least 2 of the 3 remaining matches in order to keep the chance to go to the PlayOff stage. The chance will be the 2nd leg between them against Inter and Victoria Plazen. Next match against Inter can be very crucial match to Barcelona, if they lose it again then we can say that their chance is so low unless they can beat Plazen and Bayern in the last 2 matches.
I know Barcelona should have win yesterday game against inter Milan to boost their chances to qualify for the next round but we should also consider that inter  Milan are also a very strong and good team, they are not a team you can just push aside, Barcelona did well possession wise during the game but the Italian giant was strong defensively, and have good offensive players that can change any game, barella and Martinez are there, Barcelona still have a chance to qualify by beating inter Milan at Spain.

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October 05, 2022, 11:50:00 AM
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Manchester City - FC Copenhagen

this is another good game to watch and I already bet on City to win this game


No one doubts Manchester City 99% they will win it's just not a good idea to bet on City because the odds are only 1.05
Even if we bet on the first half City win the odds are only 1.29 it's not a decent bet unless it's a big bet of $1000 or more or parlay
How about Sevilla FC vs Borussia Dortmund it's a bit more difficult to predict right.

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October 05, 2022, 12:12:13 PM
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Well, it's quite depressing to watch tonight's "difficult game" turn out to be a cakewalk because I was hoping for a goal or a draw. Imagine Barcelona pleading for a penalty in order to score. Xavi needs to curb his sentimentality I am aware that he is striving to ensure the Spanish players' world cup readiness in his team selection. Barça was a mediocre team tonight, and they ought to be prepared for the match on Thursday as a result of his approach ( Europa league)

Didn't watch the game but saw the pics and reports later. To be fair, wouldn't ever have been given in my book, and in the books of most leagues but as I recall, they're all about consistency with handball in the box now, aren't they? Less vague and subjective views of natural positioning, but yeah Xavi needs to chill the hell down and play good football. They also scraped through on the last win in the league with the few chances they had. They lost me some good money but well, there's always the next game.

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October 05, 2022, 12:35:11 PM
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Inter - Barcelona game was really disputable. Barcelona should have been given that penalty after that very clear handball. But even VAR didn't decide upon a penalty which was pretty shocking. Then Fati's incident shouldn't have been seen as a handball also. This is no different than a double standard. If Barcelona also got that penalty and scored then it would be the turning point of the game most probably. I think Barcelona could have won the game then with the help of momentum.

This is football and everything happens of course. But the referees should care more about making the right decisions not to cost the teams big results.

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October 05, 2022, 01:08:02 PM
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Today we will have the game Benfica vs PSG. How will your bets be?

We know that PSG has a fantastic team and is much better than Benfica, so they have all the conditions to win this game.
Benfica, on the other hand, has had good performances in the Champions League games, and even managed to beat Juventus. Can they surprise PSG?
PSG will beat Benfica 3-1 in this game, because their strikers will like to prove to their fans that they have what it take to win this game with many goals. No doubt, this game will end up for the favour of PSG for other teams to know that there are many potential strikers in PSG that will make the team to win this season title. Since Benfica defenders are not too strong in this season, it will enable the PSG to have access to their goalpost in this game to disgrace them with many goals at the end of the game.

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October 05, 2022, 04:39:38 PM
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No one doubts Manchester City 99% they will win it's just not a good idea to bet on City because the odds are only 1.05
Even if we bet on the first half City win the odds are only 1.29 it's not a decent bet unless it's a big bet of $1000 or more or parlay
How about Sevilla FC vs Borussia Dortmund it's a bit more difficult to predict right.

Betting on very low risk and obvious matches is boring to be honest, sometimes i actually like to go against the odds but not this one where we all know how strong manchester city is against Copenhagen, even betting with big money will only give you a headache and a lot of stress for few dollars.
In the other side i did bet on Sevilla FC vs Borussia Dortmund that both teams will score at least one goal in the match, Seville need to win the game to have at least a chance of passing to the next round and the yellow team isn’t an easy opponent so hopefully we going to see a lot of goals so i get my reward Xd

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October 05, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
Last edit: October 08, 2022, 04:29:29 PM by Lordhermes
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today we will also have some great games. in my case the games that will be good to watch and bet are:

Benfica - Paris Saint-Germain

this will be a game in which PSG will be forced to play very seriously, there is a high risk that PSG will lose points in this game, if benfica manage to play well then they will cause PSG big headaches and they can get a draw , anyway this is a good game to watch but I won't bet
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Tonight Game between Chelsea and Ac milan, 2020 winner, and a past league giant will square off today. Both teams will find the game entertaining, but Graham Potter, the manager of Chelsea, will face another challenge tonight. We must give him the benefit of  doubt even if we all know he is an amateur coach in the Champions League. There is no justification for a tie or loss tonight, therefore Potter must choose a strong team. Although he has strong players who can carry him tonight, he must be wise in choosing his starting lineup. Jorginho and Kate shouldn't play because they can't compete with the intelligent Milan midfields of Conor, Emeka, Kova, and Zakaria. To replace them, he should look for available midfielders. Auba ought to kick off the match as well if he hopes to prevail today.

Milan, Giround and Tomori are former Chelsea players, they will be welcomed to Stamford Bridge tonight, hope the amazing fans waiting them shouldn't affect their performance tonight.
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October 05, 2022, 06:12:44 PM
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I'm not really sure why boomakers giving obvious advantage for Chelsea. Yes, Milan will miss some players because of injuries, but IMO, they're looking better this season so far.
Benfica - PSG should be interesting. Not bad odds for PSG, but here I'll go with with over 2.5 and BTTS bets.
Sevilla - Dortmund. Very attractive odds for Borussia. Sevilla playing awful this season, so, even not perfect Borussia is favorite. Alternatively, over 2.5 goals isn't bad option.
Juve is big favorite against Haifa. But when it comes to Juve, you never know Smiley. Anyway, here I'm also going with over 2.5 goals.
City - Copenhagen, I think it will be similar like Bayern yesterday. 1.60 for over 3.5 goals isn't very attractive though.

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October 05, 2022, 06:17:37 PM
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Tonight Game between Chelsea and Ac milan, 2020 winner, and a past league giant will square off today. Both teams will find the game entertaining, but Graham Potter, the manager of Chelsea, will face another challenge tonight. We must give him the benefit of  doubt even if we all know he is an amateur coach in the Champions League. There is no justification for a tie or loss tonight, therefore Potter must choose a strong team. Although he has strong players who can carry him tonight, he must be wise in choosing his starting lineup. Jorginho and Kate shouldn't play because they can't compete with the intelligent Milan midfields of Conor, Emeka, Kova, and Zakaria. To replace them, he should look for available midfielders. Auba ought to kick off the match as well if he hopes to prevail today.

Milan, Giround and Tomori are former Chelsea players, they will be welcomed to Stamford Bridge tonight, hope the amazing fans waiting them shouldn't affect their performance tonight.
We are still waiting for the game between Chelsea and AC Milan to start, enough actions will be executed in the match. Chelsea gradually getting back to form but they need time to recover and Graham Potter seems like the perfect man for the job. The blues haven't record a winning in the Champions League but with Graham incharge, they might beat their rival AC Milan. The rissoneri have quality players and the same thing apply to Chelsea, I strongly believe that there would be possible goals in the game tonight.



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October 05, 2022, 08:36:46 PM
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Milan have been a huge disappointment so far and they haven't proven bookmakers wrong by their performance also. In fact, I found the odds for this match pretty awkward first because Milan were in a much better shape than Chelsea recently. Because Chelsea have newly changed their manager they have been in a new phase to adapt to his strategies.

But now we see a Chelsea that have an amazing performance in this tough match. They have dominated the match so far since the beginning. Milan have only 2 shots in this whole match and have zero in the second half. This is horrible for a team that are very effective in scoring goals normally. Their performance today is similar to Ajax's yesterday. The difference is the goal difference is three for Milan at least.  Cheesy

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October 05, 2022, 09:25:38 PM
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Seems that I had too good opinion about Milan, but they were awful today.
Benfica 1:1 PSG. Expected PSG to win, but Benfica gave good fight and probably result of game isn't surprising. And I think it's not bad result for both if you look at table.
Sevilla continue to amaze me how low they can go and Lopetegui isn't sacked still. Down 0:3 in 1st half and 2nd half becomes meaningless.
In other games everything as expected.

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October 05, 2022, 10:00:02 PM
Last edit: October 05, 2022, 10:12:29 PM by zuzie
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Seems that I had too good opinion about Milan, but they were awful today.
Benfica 1:1 PSG. Expected PSG to win, but Benfica gave good fight and probably result of game isn't surprising. And I think it's not bad result for both if you look at table.
Sevilla continue to amaze me how low they can go and Lopetegui isn't sacked still. Down 0:3 in 1st half and 2nd half becomes meaningless.
In other games everything as expected.

PSG defense is still a major problem they always conceded in every match Somehow manager must pay attention to this one problem before going to the final
Imagine if PSG went to the final with the same problem in the defense, of course it could harm them defeat in the past can be repeated.
By the way good results for Chelsea at least can recover 2 embarrassing defeats a few weeks ago.

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October 05, 2022, 10:13:12 PM
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I'm not really sure why boomakers giving obvious advantage for Chelsea. Yes, Milan will miss some players because of injuries, but IMO, they're looking better this season so far.

Guess we now know why, Chelsea has a history against the Italian side in European competition do there was no way they won't be favorites to win this game. We could see that this history played to the advantage of Chelsea as they managed the game well and pressed from the onset. Although Milan wasn't at their best in the game but so was Chelsea so there's no excuse. Assuming Chelsea were playing at their peak they could have easily scored more that the amount of goals that they scored. Sterling missed lots of chances to either score or assist in the game says it all.

As a fan I wasn't impressed with the game as the tune was dull and at some point I had to switch between games just to get my excitement back. After the last goal it seems Milan didn't have any spirit in them any more and just gave up to the lost. Hopefully they get destroy in few weeks when we play them again. Slowing Chelsea is regaining her form and that excite me as a fan.

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